AP Discovers a Lot of Clinton Foundation Donars Got Special Favors

[g5000]

No one can honestly believe a donor to the Clinton Foundation received unbiased or unweighted treatment by Senator/Secretary Clinton.

This is total sleaze. As sleazy as it gets.

If ever there was such as a thing as "conflict of interest", the relationship between Senator/Secretary Clinton and the donors is it.

This mess SCREAMS conflict of interest. There simply is no denying this is a textbook case. If this isn't a conflict of interest, then no one on Earth has ever been guilty of a conflict of interest.

Not only that, who was locked out of access to the State Department for legitimate business because they weren't big donors to the Foundation? Who got shoved aside by the big money people?

 

[Dragonlady]

No one can honestly believe a donor to the Clinton Foundation received unbiased or unweighted treatment by Senator/Secretary Clinton.

This is total sleaze. As sleazy as it gets.

If ever there was such as a thing as "conflict of interest", the relationship between Senator/Secretary Clinton and the donors is it.

This mess SCREAMS conflict of interest. There simply is no denying this is a textbook case. If this isn't a conflict of interest, then no one on Earth has ever been guilty of a conflict of interest.

Not only that, who was locked out of access to the State Department for legitimate business because they weren't big donors to the Foundation? Who got shoved aside by the big money people?

To those who hate the Clintons, it screams "conflict of interest". Except its not. There isn't the slightest indication that ANYONE received favours from the State Department as a result of donations to the Clinton Foundation. Just because it could be made to appear to the completely stupid and gullible that this why the Foundation exists, such conspiracy theories have NO BASIS IN FACT.

Republican dark money paid for these rumours, and like all Republican bullshit against the Clintons, it's a FALSE NARRATIVE.

More millions of taxpayer money being spent to investigate the Clintons based on REPUBLICAN RUMOURS, LIES AND INNUENDO.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

[g5000]

No one can honestly believe a donor to the Clinton Foundation received unbiased or unweighted treatment by Senator/Secretary Clinton.

This is total sleaze. As sleazy as it gets.

If ever there was such as a thing as "conflict of interest", the relationship between Senator/Secretary Clinton and the donors is it.

This mess SCREAMS conflict of interest. There simply is no denying this is a textbook case. If this isn't a conflict of interest, then no one on Earth has ever been guilty of a conflict of interest.

Not only that, who was locked out of access to the State Department for legitimate business because they weren't big donors to the Foundation? Who got shoved aside by the big money people?

To those who hate the Clintons, it screams "conflict of interest". Except its not.

It most certainly is. It is the textbook definition of conflict of interest.

Accepting money from the same people who are lobbying your government office is as clearcut a case of conflict of interest as it gets.

To deny this is to be beyond retarded.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No one can honestly believe a donor to the Clinton Foundation received unbiased or unweighted treatment by Senator/Secretary Clinton.

This is total sleaze. As sleazy as it gets.

If ever there was such as a thing as "conflict of interest", the relationship between Senator/Secretary Clinton and the donors is it.

This mess SCREAMS conflict of interest. There simply is no denying this is a textbook case. If this isn't a conflict of interest, then no one on Earth has ever been guilty of a conflict of interest.

Not only that, who was locked out of access to the State Department for legitimate business because they weren't big donors to the Foundation? Who got shoved aside by the big money people?

To those who hate the Clintons, it screams "conflict of interest". Except its not. There isn't the slightest indication that ANYONE received favours from the State Department as a result of donations to the Clinton Foundation. Just because it could be made to appear to the completely stupid and gullible that this why the Foundation exists, such conspiracy theories have NO BASIS IN FACT.

Republican dark money paid for these rumours, and like all Republican bullshit against the Clintons, it's a FALSE NARRATIVE.

More millions of taxpayer money being spent to investigate the Clintons based on REPUBLICAN RUMOURS, LIES AND INNUENDO.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Except the Saudi's who gave and then recieved a reversal of the policy not to sell them advanced weapons.
Except the Russians who gave and then recieved a reversal of policy and got their uranium.
And multiple favors returned to individuals and corporations.
Newly released Clinton emails show favors for foundation donors | New York Post

 

[Weatherman2020]

Bottom line this just shows the left love serving the one percenters.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So, this begs the following pertinent question.

IF the Clinton Foundation was indeed "Play-To-Play" as der Trumpendummy claims.

What did his One Hundred Thousand Dollars ($100,000.00) worth of donations buy him?.

Trump gave at least $100K to Clinton Foundation.

Why if Trumpty Dumpty has gotten his short hairs (what few he has) in a twist over the Clinton Foundation....why.....oh.....why won't he release his Taxes and let the world see what he with his money....what is he hiding?

He wants Clinton to come clean with the Foundation, he should just as willing to come clean with his taxes.

Trump isn't accused of doing anything illegal. Hillary is. That's the difference. There's nothing for Trump to "come clean" about.

What's illegal here dope?

Ask Blagovich. He can be found in Federal prison for another 10 years.

Apparently you are unable to outline the criminality as well.

 

[g5000]

Here's the thing, rubes.

Clinton has stated she and her family are going to step back from the Clinton foundation if she wins the election. The Foundation will stop accepting foreign and corporate donations.

That is as close to an admission of wrongdoing as you can get. If it is wrong to accept foreign and corporate donations as President, then it was wrong to accept corporate and foreign donations as Secretary of State.

 

[320 Years of History]

I truly think all the Clinton Foundation recriminations exist and are even possible to make for the following reasons:

• Most people are not senior executives and have no clue of what a senior executive does, what their work days are like or anything else about how they live, other than that outwardly senior execs and principals appear to live "the live of Riley."
• Senior executives and principals are not about to publicly discuss what their work days and lives are like, other than perhaps to talk about interesting places, interesting people/conversations, hobbies, vacations or their kids or some other "polite" topic that somehow intersects with their work lives.

For all the Clinton Foundation hoopla, people are forgetting (or don't know) one thing:

People don't set up 501(c) foundations, which is what the Clinton Foundation is, to collect/make money; they set them up to give it away!!! ​

Can the creator of a 501(c) earn something from the Foundation? Yes, they can if the foundation pays them a salary. They can if the foundation buys their founder's goods and services. The Clinton's don't have any goods, and their only service offerings are honoraria and government service. Do you really think the Clinton Foundation is going to engage the Clintons to give a speech to the Clinton Foundation?

There's plenty of sensationalism about the Clinton Foundation and the people who met with Mrs. Clinton.

• Meetings:
  Out of curiosity, what the heck do you think a Secretary of State or any other senior executive mostly does? Well, I'll tell you: mostly, they go from one meeting to the next. In between "big" meetings, they read stuff to get prepared for the next meeting, they sign documents that lower level staff prepared as a consequence of prior meetings, they talk to folks on the phone to get details about a meeting that already took place or that will take place.
• Money:
  What money? Who gets rich saying, "Give money to this charity that does nothing for and buys nothing from me or my friends, and maybe I'll talk to you."?

In alleged the Clinton Foundation "pay to play" scheme, what personal financial gain did Hillary or Bill Clinton get?

• 2010 Clinton Foundation Tax Return
  • Page 7: Compensation of Officers, Directors, Trustees, Key Employees, Highest Compensated Employees, and Independent Contractors
    • No Clinton received compensation of any sort.
• 2012 Clinton Foundation Tax Return
  • Page 7: Compensation of Officers, Directors, Trustees, Key Employees, Highest Compensated Employees, and Independent Contractors
    • Chelsea Clinton and Terry McAuliffe are both listed. How much did they receive? $0.00.

Looking at the (as known) process of donations to the Clinton Foundation (CF) and meeting requests with HRC, the process would look as follows:

1. Donor gives "big money" to CF
2. CF spends money on needy people and various good/service providers
   • Was HRC one of those recipients of money? No.
   • The donor clearly wasn't.
3. Donor requests meeting with Hillary Clinton (HRC)
   • Meeting does not occur --> End.
   • Meeting occurs --> Go to #4.
4. Donor and HRC meet.
5. Donor ask for "something" from HRC/SecState, which by inference means U.S.
   • Donor receives what was requested --> Go to #6
   • Donor does not receive what was requested.--> Go to #6
6. Increase in HRC personal fortune?
   • Yes --> deposit is recorded and investigated
   • No --> nothing happens
7. End

So, somebody please show me some tangible proof that Hillary Clinton personally benefitted from anything having to do with the Clinton Foundation's fundraising. In other words, just what did the Clintons receive in exchange for all these donations and meetings? The CF is not like Trump Organization, which is a business. It's a charity, just like the Shawn Carter Foundation.

Seeing as Mrs. Clinton wasn't paid anything by the CF, that's not where she'd have gotten a personal financial gain. The next place to look is to see what outcomes took place subsequent to the meeting. I looked into one such donor, the first one noted in the AP's article.

What does the AP article say? (I have time right now to address only the first person noted.)

Donors who were granted time with Clinton included:An internationally known economist who asked for her help as the Bangladesh government pressured him to resign from a nonprofit bank he ran.

• Bangladesh's GDP is $150B. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet could together buy and sell the whole damn country. I realize that to most Americans, the idea that a private individual can have meaningful enough influence in a country like Bangladesh is absurd. Well, it's not, not by a longshot. In countries that have only very wealthy and very poor citizens, the wealthy folks there, be they part of the government or not, have tremendous say in the governance of the place. If they have a role in government or an arm of it, they have even more.
  
  The man who for some reason went unnamed in the AP's article is Muhammad Yunus. What help did he get from Mrs. Clinton? Apparently not enough...He was forced to step down from his position on the board at the Bangladeshi nonprofit organization involved.
  
  What organization? Grameen Bank, which is a Nobel Peace Prize-winning microfinance organization and community development bank founded in Bangladesh. It makes small loans (known as microcredit or "grameencredit") to the impoverished without requiring collateral. The name Grameen is derived from the word gram which means "rural" or "village" in the Bengali Language.
  
  Now what do "Mr. and Mrs. Typical American" know about Bangladesh or the Grameen Bank? I suspect nothing for I doubt that most Americans even know where Bangladesh is, much less the name of its domestic development bank (it's essentially their version of the Small Business Administration); however, there's quite a lot to know about the bank and its role in Bangladesh governance.
  
  The first thing to know is that in countries as small and poor as Bangladesh, a single very wealthy (for that country) individual usually has a huge influence on the functioning and stability of the country. Here you'll find why Mr. Yunus and Mrs. Clinton had a U.S. government related reason to interact.
  
  There's more to Mr. Yunus and the bank than just that, however. I'll leave it to you to peruse the following and lean a bit on your own.

• Grameen Bank: Taking Capitalism to the Poor
• Yunus seeks people’s support for smooth transition of leadership in Grameen Bank
• Will the Government of Bangladesh Ruin Grameen Bank? | Grameen Foundation | Connecting the World's Poor to Their Potential

What is the value of the Grameen Bank? In addition to what you'll have found if you read the content at the links I provided, it, under Mr. Yunus, has pioneered a new approach to making the benefits of capitalism available to poor folks and has played a central role in bringing more wealth to the poorest people there.. Do you suppose there's a reason for Mrs. Clinton to want to understand?

More directly related to her role at State, are you aware of how ISIS preys on poor nations and inserts itself? Do you know where Bangladesh may fit in ISIS' designs? If ISIS were to have its way, Bangladesh could easily become a place where ISIS inserts itself. What about Myanmar right next door to Bangladesh?​

So, while it may massage one's feelings of disdain toward Mrs. Clinton for what her relationships looked like superficially, exercise just a little bit of intellectual integrity and at least look further than just what you see published in a newspaper article. Mrs. Clinton is quite like many senior execs in that she acts to do the right thing first and worries about optics later. That's hurting her right now given the acrimony over the CF. But if you read the content I've linked in this post, you'll find that at least one of the associations noted in the AP article the thread OP references is not one whereof there existed some untoward goings on.

Excersize a bit of intellectual integrity.
In July 2013, Eric Braverman, a friend of Chelsea Clinton from when they both worked at McKinsey & Co., took over as CEO of the Clinton Foundation. He took home nearly $275,000 in salary, benefits and a housing allowance from the nonprofit for just five months’ work in 2013, tax filings show. Less than a year later, his salary increased to $395,000, according to a report in Politico.

Charity watchdog: Clinton Foundation a ‘slush fund’ | New York Post

And now he's gone, point?

Top Three Salaries at Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation (Based on Fiscal Year-Ended 12/31/14)
Name Title Compensation Notes
Eric Braverman Past CEO $ 532,361 --
Bruce R. Lindsey Chairman of the Board $ 395,460 --
Mark Gunton CEO, Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership $ 313,992 --

What's your point?
Is that unusual compared to charities with similar assets?

Lets see how the head of other charities with the same numbers would do in an election for President.

Gary Hart was tossed because of a friend with a boat called Monkey Business.

Dean was tossed for an excited rant when he won a primary.

Hillary can do whatever she wants and nothing.

Why is that?

Red:
Hypothesis contrary to fact

• Other charity heads: no such person has run for President

Blue:

• Things have happened, or do you call 8 Congressional hearings that found nothing of merit and an FBI investigation that found nothing prosecutable "nothing?"
  
  Of course, if you want to call those things and their catalysts "nothing," that would necessarily mean folks, Republicans in particular, have made much ado about nothing. So which is it? Nothing having happened or Mrs. Clinton's political rivals having made much ado about nothing?
• The event that forms the basis of measurement for "nothing happening" -- election to President -- hasn't occurred.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Here's the thing, rubes.

Clinton has stated she and her family are going to step back from the Clinton foundation if she wins the election. The Foundation will stop accepting foreign and corporate donations.

That is as close to an admission of wrongdoing as you can get. If it is wrong to accept foreign and corporate donations as President, then it was wrong to accept corporate and foreign donations as Secretary of State.

Yeah, like she did when she became SoS.
Oops.

What she did was send out the message to send your bribes in before November.

 

[g5000]

Conflict of interest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A conflict of interest (COI) is a situation in which a person or organization is involved in multiple interests, financial interest, or otherwise, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation of the individual or organization.

A widely used definition is: "A conflict of interest is a set of circumstances that creates a risk that professional judgement or actions regarding a primary interest will be unduly influenced by a secondary interest."

Boom! Clinton's primary interest (Secretary of State) carried a risk that professional judgement or actions would be unduly influenced by a secondary interest (donations to Clinton Foundation by people lobbying her primary interest).

 

[Dragonlady]

No one can honestly believe a donor to the Clinton Foundation received unbiased or unweighted treatment by Senator/Secretary Clinton.

This is total sleaze. As sleazy as it gets.

If ever there was such as a thing as "conflict of interest", the relationship between Senator/Secretary Clinton and the donors is it.

This mess SCREAMS conflict of interest. There simply is no denying this is a textbook case. If this isn't a conflict of interest, then no one on Earth has ever been guilty of a conflict of interest.

Not only that, who was locked out of access to the State Department for legitimate business because they weren't big donors to the Foundation? Who got shoved aside by the big money people?

To those who hate the Clintons, it screams "conflict of interest". Except its not.

It most certainly is. It is the textbook definition of conflict of interest.

Accepting money from the same people who are lobbying your government office is as clearcut a case of conflict of interest as it gets.

To deny this is to be beyond retarded.

She wasn't accepting money from them. A charity which she set up received money from them, and in return, the charity paid out that money to programs which it runs in Third World countries. There is no enrichment of the Clintons at all, so no, there is no conflict of interest.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So, this begs the following pertinent question.

IF the Clinton Foundation was indeed "Play-To-Play" as der Trumpendummy claims.

What did his One Hundred Thousand Dollars ($100,000.00) worth of donations buy him?.

Trump gave at least $100K to Clinton Foundation.

Why if Trumpty Dumpty has gotten his short hairs (what few he has) in a twist over the Clinton Foundation....why.....oh.....why won't he release his Taxes and let the world see what he with his money....what is he hiding?

He wants Clinton to come clean with the Foundation, he should just as willing to come clean with his taxes.

Trump isn't accused of doing anything illegal. Hillary is. That's the difference. There's nothing for Trump to "come clean" about.

What's illegal here dope?

Ask Blagovich. He can be found in Federal prison for another 10 years.

Apparently you are unable to outline the criminality as well.

Ask Blagovich. He can be found serving 14 years in a Federal prison for pay to play.

 

[Dragonlady]

No one can honestly believe a donor to the Clinton Foundation received unbiased or unweighted treatment by Senator/Secretary Clinton.

This is total sleaze. As sleazy as it gets.

If ever there was such as a thing as "conflict of interest", the relationship between Senator/Secretary Clinton and the donors is it.

This mess SCREAMS conflict of interest. There simply is no denying this is a textbook case. If this isn't a conflict of interest, then no one on Earth has ever been guilty of a conflict of interest.

Not only that, who was locked out of access to the State Department for legitimate business because they weren't big donors to the Foundation? Who got shoved aside by the big money people?

To those who hate the Clintons, it screams "conflict of interest". Except its not.

It most certainly is. It is the textbook definition of conflict of interest.

Accepting money from the same people who are lobbying your government office is as clearcut a case of conflict of interest as it gets.

To deny this is to be beyond retarded.

She wasn't accepting money from them. A charity which she set up received money from them, and in return, the charity paid out that money to programs which it runs in Third World countries. There is no enrichment of the Clintons at all, so no, there is no conflict of interest.

 

[g5000]

If Clinton truly believed that there is no conflict of interest, then she wouldn't be announcing she will stop accepting donations if she is President.

She clearly knows what she did was a conflict of interest and wrong.

 

[g5000]

So, this begs the following pertinent question.

IF the Clinton Foundation was indeed "Play-To-Play" as der Trumpendummy claims.

What did his One Hundred Thousand Dollars ($100,000.00) worth of donations buy him?.

Trump gave at least $100K to Clinton Foundation.

Why if Trumpty Dumpty has gotten his short hairs (what few he has) in a twist over the Clinton Foundation....why.....oh.....why won't he release his Taxes and let the world see what he with his money....what is he hiding?

He wants Clinton to come clean with the Foundation, he should just as willing to come clean with his taxes.

Trump isn't accused of doing anything illegal. Hillary is. That's the difference. There's nothing for Trump to "come clean" about.

What's illegal here dope?

Ask Blagovich. He can be found in Federal prison for another 10 years.

Apparently you are unable to outline the criminality as well.

Ask Blagovich. He can be found serving 14 years in a Federal prison for pay to play.

Blagovich made overt requests for a bribe. There is no evidence Clinton did the same.

 

[Dragonlady]

Or how about this, please answer how many are hurt because if Trump lies? How long is dead body trail behind Trump? How many are killed because of his negligence. How many state secrets were exposed because Trump lied?

You do know, but something is telling me you wont answer.

Every person named in the Trump University Class action suits.

Every small independent contractor who has gone broke as a result of doing work for which Trump didn't pay him.

All of the people who lost money in his bankruptcies. Bankruptcies which Trump has boasted he made $40 million dollars on. Guess he wasn't really bankrupt then was he?

 

[Dragonlady]

If Clinton truly believed that there is no conflict of interest, then she wouldn't be announcing she wills top accepting donations if she is President.

She clearly knows what she did was a conflict of interest and wrong.

No, she knows she won't have time to do this work when she's President.

 

[g5000]

No one can honestly believe a donor to the Clinton Foundation received unbiased or unweighted treatment by Senator/Secretary Clinton.

This is total sleaze. As sleazy as it gets.

If ever there was such as a thing as "conflict of interest", the relationship between Senator/Secretary Clinton and the donors is it.

This mess SCREAMS conflict of interest. There simply is no denying this is a textbook case. If this isn't a conflict of interest, then no one on Earth has ever been guilty of a conflict of interest.

Not only that, who was locked out of access to the State Department for legitimate business because they weren't big donors to the Foundation? Who got shoved aside by the big money people?

To those who hate the Clintons, it screams "conflict of interest". Except its not.

It most certainly is. It is the textbook definition of conflict of interest.

Accepting money from the same people who are lobbying your government office is as clearcut a case of conflict of interest as it gets.

To deny this is to be beyond retarded.

She wasn't accepting money from them. A charity which she set up received money from them, and in return, the charity paid out that money to programs which it runs in Third World countries. There is no enrichment of the Clintons at all, so no, there is no conflict of interest.

Bill Clinton was paid a salary and benefits by the Foundation. So you bet your ass they were enriched by donors.

 

[g5000]

If Clinton truly believed that there is no conflict of interest, then she wouldn't be announcing she wills top accepting donations if she is President.

She clearly knows what she did was a conflict of interest and wrong.

No, she knows she won't have time to do this work when she's President.

Clinton bragged she traveled more than any previous SecState. She was incredibly busy.

And she specified foreign and corporate donations. There's a reason she did that, and it has nothing to do with being too busy. It's an admission those donations create a conflict of interest.

You are making a fool of yourself with these excuses for their corruption.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Bottom line this just shows the left love serving the one percenters.

I support a charitable foundation that does great work across the globe. I can see that the dupes like yourself have a problem with people who use their power and influence to make positive changes in the lives of millions of people in the world. In fact you morons are so depraved with your partisan BS that you even suggest it's criminal. Not only do the Clinton's work over the last decade outside of govt dwarf the entirety of Trump's, they have done it transparently. The financial records of the foundation are publicly available as are 30+ years of personal taxes. It's very easy to show that they have not profited personally in any way through the foundation. Trump couldn't even come close.