April 2016 = Polar vortex & record breaking cold in US!!!

[Old Rocks]

This is not 1805, but 2016. And there are hundreds of firefighters trying to beat down those fires.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Media titan Ted Turner’s Z-Bar Ranch was hit hard.

Crews battling a wildfire that scorched about 400,000 acres in Kansas and Oklahoma braced on Friday for wind gusts to change direction overnight, as they sought to control a fire so big it has sent smoke streaming into Kentucky.

The fire started in Oklahoma on Tuesday and moved into Kansas, with strong winds on Wednesday making it eight times bigger and forcing voluntary evacuations in rural prairie towns that ended as winds died down on Thursday.

The main front of the fire was in Barber County, Kansas, where hundreds of firefighters had the blaze 15% contained on Friday, said Ben Bauman, spokesman for the Kansas Division of Emergency Management.

Wildfire in Kansas and Oklahoma Kills Livestock on Ranches

Yep. The midwest getting snow, and Oklahoma and Kansas having a wildfire burning over a 100 square miles.

Wider and wilder swings with an overall warming. Still looks that way.

Wow! Wildfires in the prairie!

JULY 20, 1804
Lewis & Clark Journal Entry
“...The soil of thes prairies appears rich but much parched with the frequent fires...”

Yes, very large wildfires on the prairies. In March.

MARCH 6, 1805
Lewis & Clark Journal Entry
“a cloudy morning & smokey all Day from the burning of the plains, which was set on fire by the Minetarries for an early crop of Grass as an endusement for the Buffalow to feed on...”

 

[Weatherman2020]

This is not 1805, but 2016. And there are hundreds of firefighters trying to beat down those fires.

1805 wildfires identical to 2016 wildfires.
Go figure.

 

[Old Rocks]

I see. There were hundreds of firefighters trying to put out those fires in 1805 with radio communication, and trucks and planes dropping retardant. Just like the people that try to compare last summers wildfires in the West with those that we have had in the past. You people are pathetic in your attempts to compare what is happening today to what has happened in the past.

 

[Old Rocks]

I see. There were hundreds of firefighters trying to put out those fires in 1805 with radio communication, and trucks and planes dropping retardant. Just like the people that try to compare last summers wildfires in the West with those that we have had in the past. You people are pathetic in your attempts to compare what is happening today to what has happened in the past.

 

[flacaltenn]

Media titan Ted Turner’s Z-Bar Ranch was hit hard.

Crews battling a wildfire that scorched about 400,000 acres in Kansas and Oklahoma braced on Friday for wind gusts to change direction overnight, as they sought to control a fire so big it has sent smoke streaming into Kentucky.

The fire started in Oklahoma on Tuesday and moved into Kansas, with strong winds on Wednesday making it eight times bigger and forcing voluntary evacuations in rural prairie towns that ended as winds died down on Thursday.

The main front of the fire was in Barber County, Kansas, where hundreds of firefighters had the blaze 15% contained on Friday, said Ben Bauman, spokesman for the Kansas Division of Emergency Management.

Wildfire in Kansas and Oklahoma Kills Livestock on Ranches

Yep. The midwest getting snow, and Oklahoma and Kansas having a wildfire burning over a 100 square miles.

Wider and wilder swings with an overall warming. Still looks that way.

You're actually a tad worse than the folks harping about late spring snows there Rocks. Because there is no actual basis for the weather getting "wider and wilder" because of uniform warming of the lower troposphere. It's not simply HEAT that causes wider and wilder.

In fact -- last week I posted a 2 decade trend for the VARIANCE in Alaskan weather -- the place where the warming is "the worst" --- for both precipt and temperature swings --- has gone NOTICEABLY lower..

Probably other places where this is true as well.. All you got is the 2nd sigma extreme weather cases to point to as evidence.....

 

[Billy_Bob]

Media titan Ted Turner’s Z-Bar Ranch was hit hard.

Crews battling a wildfire that scorched about 400,000 acres in Kansas and Oklahoma braced on Friday for wind gusts to change direction overnight, as they sought to control a fire so big it has sent smoke streaming into Kentucky.

The fire started in Oklahoma on Tuesday and moved into Kansas, with strong winds on Wednesday making it eight times bigger and forcing voluntary evacuations in rural prairie towns that ended as winds died down on Thursday.

The main front of the fire was in Barber County, Kansas, where hundreds of firefighters had the blaze 15% contained on Friday, said Ben Bauman, spokesman for the Kansas Division of Emergency Management.

Wildfire in Kansas and Oklahoma Kills Livestock on Ranches

Yep. The midwest getting snow, and Oklahoma and Kansas having a wildfire burning over a 100 square miles.

Wider and wilder swings with an overall warming. Still looks that way.

You're actually a tad worse than the folks harping about late spring snows there Rocks. Because there is no actual basis for the weather getting "wider and wilder" because of uniform warming of the lower troposphere. It's not simply HEAT that causes wider and wilder.

In fact -- last week I posted a 2 decade trend for the VARIANCE in Alaskan weather -- the place where the warming is "the worst" --- for both precipt and temperature swings --- has gone NOTICEABLY lower..

Probably other places where this is true as well.. All you got is the 2nd sigma extreme weather cases to point to as evidence.....

I dont think he has even that.. Not much extreme weather is beyond a 0.5 sigma. They report everything as extreme but in reality we are at a low point in this category.

 

[Billy_Bob]

This is not 1805, but 2016. And there are hundreds of firefighters trying to beat down those fires.

Liberal stupidity...

Do you know what happens when the underbrush fuels become so heavy and are not burned off frequently? The US forest service learned this lesson the hard way with mega fires they could not put out. recent years of not allowing the under burden to burn off have created monsters.. Piss Poor land management and foolish building by foolish people.

Mother nature burns these areas off yearly or semi yearly with lightening caused fires. Indians figured this out too and set them to burn off fuels that might kill them later in the year. They used nature to keep themselves safe and to bring in food sources.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I see. There were hundreds of firefighters trying to put out those fires in 1805 with radio communication, and trucks and planes dropping retardant. Just like the people that try to compare last summers wildfires in the West with those that we have had in the past. You people are pathetic in your attempts to compare what is happening today to what has happened in the past.

Don't know much about fighting wildfires either I see.
Firemen guide wildfires, letting them burn and simply stear them from homes. They don't run out and attempt to extinguish fires in open fields, Einstein.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Really? Links? Credible links, that is.

But but but but but but it's the warmest Easter Sunday EVAH!!!!!!!!! In like Forevah!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess the folks that are going on about that weren't in Amarillo, Texas Saturday night...while it was snowring...lol

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

This is not 1805, but 2016. And there are hundreds of firefighters trying to beat down those fires.

There weren't any wild land firefighters in 1805...lol

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Media titan Ted Turner’s Z-Bar Ranch was hit hard.

Crews battling a wildfire that scorched about 400,000 acres in Kansas and Oklahoma braced on Friday for wind gusts to change direction overnight, as they sought to control a fire so big it has sent smoke streaming into Kentucky.

The fire started in Oklahoma on Tuesday and moved into Kansas, with strong winds on Wednesday making it eight times bigger and forcing voluntary evacuations in rural prairie towns that ended as winds died down on Thursday.

The main front of the fire was in Barber County, Kansas, where hundreds of firefighters had the blaze 15% contained on Friday, said Ben Bauman, spokesman for the Kansas Division of Emergency Management.

Wildfire in Kansas and Oklahoma Kills Livestock on Ranches

Yep. The midwest getting snow, and Oklahoma and Kansas having a wildfire burning over a 100 square miles.

Wider and wilder swings with an overall warming. Still looks that way.

CO2 causes forest to spontaneously combust???

 

[jc456]

Really? Links? Credible links, that is.

funny stuff and then there are headlines like this from CNBC:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/26/polar...ek-report.html

"'Polar Vortex' set to menace US in a week: Report
Javier E. David | @TeflonGeek
Saturday, 26 Mar 2016 | 5:03 PM ET"

Mother nature says otherwise:


" Accuweather.com reported on Saturday that the dreaded "Polar Vortex" — a formation of arctic air that has menaced swaths of the country for the better part of the last few winters — is set to return in early April. According to the forecast, the temperature shift may bring "record cold to parts of the Midwest and East."

As Spring begins its first full month, temperatures will average 15-30 degrees Fahrenheit below normal, Accuweather said. Some of the coldest air will target the North Central States, with New York City seeing 40-degree temperatures. A separate forecast this week from Weather 2000 also predicted a return of a "Vernal Vortex" that would likely mean colder air through early April."

 

[jc456]

Climate at a Glance | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)


Actual NOAA data......^^^..........fucking duh...................

30 years of cooling.......because with 2016 now being the end date, 1987 is the start date for a 30 year trend.

But 1985-2014 shows a cooling trend

So does 1986-2015

This is also true for the Upper Midwest, and the Ohio Valley climate region, using the official NCDC data.

Even the Rockies show winter cooling for Tmax, for the thirty year trend.

The AGW climate crusaders are a bunch of lying phonies!!

this is it exactly. I did ask someone in the warmer group in here to show me where climate has changed since the 80's and I've been lucky and got some crickets.

 

[jc456]

Climate at a Glance | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

The two warmest February's on record, 2015, 2016.