AR 15s sure make it more likely that there will be mass murder by gun, doesnt it?

[TheOldSchool]

School girls going to their military training class.… this is Israel 2017….
Where Teachers and other citizenry Carry AR-15’s. Where it’s mandatory that young People Serve in the Military and they are armed 24/7. Where They Don’t over medicate. Where the Murder Rate for the whole country is a fraction of what Nashville Tennessee is. Where Parents teach respect and values instead of letting Disney and X-Box raise their Children, AND where they Stand for their flag and would defend it with their lives.

WAKE UP AMERICA… WE DON’T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM

We have a marxist agenda driven by the media and new world order problem.

We should adopt Israel's gun laws

Ours are better, our gun crime rates are going down...

Nah our gun laws are terrible. The OP is correct, and we should adopt Israel's gun laws.

 

[2aguy]

School girls going to their military training class.… this is Israel 2017….
Where Teachers and other citizenry Carry AR-15’s. Where it’s mandatory that young People Serve in the Military and they are armed 24/7. Where They Don’t over medicate. Where the Murder Rate for the whole country is a fraction of what Nashville Tennessee is. Where Parents teach respect and values instead of letting Disney and X-Box raise their Children, AND where they Stand for their flag and would defend it with their lives.

WAKE UP AMERICA… WE DON’T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM

We have a marxist agenda driven by the media and new world order problem.

We should adopt Israel's gun laws

Ours are better, our gun crime rates are going down...

Nah our gun laws are terrible. The OP is correct, and we should adopt Israel's gun laws.

No.....actual research, the truth, the facts and 21 years of reality and practical experience show our gun laws lower gun murder and gun crime rates...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[TheOldSchool]

School girls going to their military training class.… this is Israel 2017….
Where Teachers and other citizenry Carry AR-15’s. Where it’s mandatory that young People Serve in the Military and they are armed 24/7. Where They Don’t over medicate. Where the Murder Rate for the whole country is a fraction of what Nashville Tennessee is. Where Parents teach respect and values instead of letting Disney and X-Box raise their Children, AND where they Stand for their flag and would defend it with their lives.

WAKE UP AMERICA… WE DON’T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM

We have a marxist agenda driven by the media and new world order problem.

We should adopt Israel's gun laws

Ours are better, our gun crime rates are going down...

Nah our gun laws are terrible. The OP is correct, and we should adopt Israel's gun laws.

No.....actual research, the truth, the facts and 21 years of reality and practical experience show our gun laws lower gun murder and gun crime rates...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

What are Israel's gun crime and homicide rates?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Right now, the weapon of choice is the trusty AR 15
Those “tiny rounds” seem to be quite effective in slaughtering school children

As is your standard 9mm. What's your point?

Point is the trusty AR15 in a militarized configuration is still the weapon of choice for those wishing to shoot up a school, church or movie theater

You don't have a clue what makes a militarised weapon. Black painted plastics and composite materials are not the criteria.

 

[westwall]

It's funny. I just caught an interview with Ted Nugent last night and he pointed out some amazing facts:

Did you know that the AR-15 round is so meager that in 30 states, its isn't allowed to be used for hunting deer because it likely won't kill it? Another thing he pointed out is that research shows that a shotgun with 00 buckshot would be far more effective for killing in these schools, so if the Left is successful in banning AR-15s that these kids start going to other types of weapons, they are only likely to succeed in INCREASING THE MURDER RATE.

Right now, the weapon of choice is the trusty AR 15
Those “tiny rounds” seem to be quite effective in slaughtering school children

Wrong.....the majority of mass shootings are done with pistols...the worst school shooting in the country, Virginia Tech, was done with 2 pistols....murdering 32 people......

And a muslim terrorist in Nice, France, using a rental truck murdered 86 people...

800lb gorilla in the room
Most of our 30,000 gun deaths are done with pistols

If we really want to impact our gun carnage, we need to restrict access to handguns

WRong.....most of those gun deaths are suicides....and since Japan, Korea, And China have more suicides than the United States, and they have extreme gun control, only cops and criminals can have guns in their countries, guns are not the issue.....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016
Gun suicide

22,938

========================

Gun Accidental death.....
2016:
495


==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2016--

11,004

=======================

Suicide
...even though Japan, Korea, China, all have absolute gun control for law abiding citizens...only criminals and cops can have guns.......and they have higher suicide rates than we do....and our non-gun suicide rate has been higher than our gun suicide rate for 2 years in a row.....

Gun Accidental Death...

Gun accidents....in a country with over 320,000,000 people...... with 400,000,000 guns in private hands, and over 15,700,000 people carrying guns for self defense..... 495 accidental gun deaths....

Gun murder
Of the 11,004 gun murders in this country, 70-80% of the victims are criminals, engaged in criminal activity or part of the criminal life style....and of the remaining victims....many of them are friends and family of the criminal...caught up in the criminal's lifestyle.....

Dead is still dead

I’ll make a deal with you. As soon as we have 30,000 deaths a year from people jumping in front of trains, I will post that 30,000 die from jumping in front of trains and we need to do something about it

Until that time, there are 30,000 gun deaths a year

I'll tell you what, how about we work on a problem that can be worked on fairly easy, will save far more lives, and doesn't infringe on the Rights of honest people. Then, when that problem has been dealt with we can move on to your issue. How about that?


Medical errors may be third leading cause of death in the U.S.

(CNN)You've heard those hospital horror stories where the surgeon removes the wrong body part or operates on the wrong patient or accidentally leaves medical equipment in the person they were operating on.

Even scarier, perhaps, is a new study in the latest edition of BMJ suggesting most medical errors go unobserved, at least in the official record.

Medical errors may be 3rd leading cause of death in U.S. - CNN

 

[OKTexas]

Right now, the weapon of choice is the trusty AR 15
Those “tiny rounds” seem to be quite effective in slaughtering school children

Wrong.....the majority of mass shootings are done with pistols...the worst school shooting in the country, Virginia Tech, was done with 2 pistols....murdering 32 people......

And a muslim terrorist in Nice, France, using a rental truck murdered 86 people...

800lb gorilla in the room
Most of our 30,000 gun deaths are done with pistols

If we really want to impact our gun carnage, we need to restrict access to handguns

WRong.....most of those gun deaths are suicides....and since Japan, Korea, And China have more suicides than the United States, and they have extreme gun control, only cops and criminals can have guns in their countries, guns are not the issue.....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016
Gun suicide

22,938

========================

Gun Accidental death.....
2016:
495


==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2016--

11,004

=======================

Suicide
...even though Japan, Korea, China, all have absolute gun control for law abiding citizens...only criminals and cops can have guns.......and they have higher suicide rates than we do....and our non-gun suicide rate has been higher than our gun suicide rate for 2 years in a row.....

Gun Accidental Death...

Gun accidents....in a country with over 320,000,000 people...... with 400,000,000 guns in private hands, and over 15,700,000 people carrying guns for self defense..... 495 accidental gun deaths....

Gun murder
Of the 11,004 gun murders in this country, 70-80% of the victims are criminals, engaged in criminal activity or part of the criminal life style....and of the remaining victims....many of them are friends and family of the criminal...caught up in the criminal's lifestyle.....

But suicide is not as bad when a sword or drugs are used as the suicide method. Gun violence is bad. Other types of violence not so much.

(Sarcasm alert)

When 30,000 Americans are killed by swords.....I will post that

Until that time......30,000 Americans are killed by guns

Then you should get right on this one.

It's a chilling reality – one often overlooked in annual mortality statistics: Preventable medical errors persist as the No. 3 killer in the U.S. – third only to heart disease and cancer – claiming the lives of some 400,000 people each year. At a Senate hearing Thursday, patient safety officials put their best ideas forward on how to solve the crisis, with IT often at the center of discussions.

Deaths by medical mistakes hit records

Since doctors are more than 10 times more dangerous than guns, what's your plan to address this???????????


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[jon_berzerk]

School girls going to their military training class.… this is Israel 2017….
Where Teachers and other citizenry Carry AR-15’s. Where it’s mandatory that young People Serve in the Military and they are armed 24/7. Where They Don’t over medicate. Where the Murder Rate for the whole country is a fraction of what Nashville Tennessee is. Where Parents teach respect and values instead of letting Disney and X-Box raise their Children, AND where they Stand for their flag and would defend it with their lives.

WAKE UP AMERICA… WE DON’T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM

We have a marxist agenda driven by the media and new world order problem.

It's funny. I just caught an interview with Ted Nugent last night and he pointed out some amazing facts:

Did you know that the AR-15 round is so meager that in 30 states, its isn't allowed to be used for hunting deer because it likely won't kill it? Another thing he pointed out is that research shows that a shotgun with 00 buckshot would be far more effective for killing in these schools, so if the Left is successful in banning AR-15s that these kids start going to other types of weapons, they are only likely to succeed in INCREASING THE MURDER RATE.

Did you know that the AR-15 round is so meager that in 30 states, its isn't allowed to be used for hunting deer because it likely won't kill it?


indeed it is nothing more then a supped up 22

Now I'm considering a .223/5.56. It's gotta be cheaper than 6.5 Creedmore.

i think the last bucket of .223 i picked up was around 130 bucks 300/130

Eh, thought it was cheaper than that. Were them Hornady V-Maxes or something?

Remington

 

[OKTexas]

Right now, the weapon of choice is the trusty AR 15
Those “tiny rounds” seem to be quite effective in slaughtering school children

As is your standard 9mm. What's your point?

Point is the trusty AR15 in a militarized configuration is still the weapon of choice for those wishing to shoot up a school, church or movie theater

Now you're just being dishonest, AR style weapons have been use 8 times in 19 years with over 5 million of them in private hands. If you do the math, that's a combined 34.675 trillion ownership days with only 8 days they have been misused. So tell the class, what's the odds an AR will be misused on any given day.


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[OKTexas]

It's funny. I just caught an interview with Ted Nugent last night and he pointed out some amazing facts:

Did you know that the AR-15 round is so meager that in 30 states, its isn't allowed to be used for hunting deer because it likely won't kill it? Another thing he pointed out is that research shows that a shotgun with 00 buckshot would be far more effective for killing in these schools, so if the Left is successful in banning AR-15s that these kids start going to other types of weapons, they are only likely to succeed in INCREASING THE MURDER RATE.

Right now, the weapon of choice is the trusty AR 15
Those “tiny rounds” seem to be quite effective in slaughtering school children

Wrong.....the majority of mass shootings are done with pistols...the worst school shooting in the country, Virginia Tech, was done with 2 pistols....murdering 32 people......

And a muslim terrorist in Nice, France, using a rental truck murdered 86 people...

800lb gorilla in the room
Most of our 30,000 gun deaths are done with pistols

If we really want to impact our gun carnage, we need to restrict access to handguns

Your concerns seem less to do with carnage and more to do with an unhealthy fear of guns. If you were able to eliminate guns altogether, carnage would just be carried out with other weapons. People are adaptive, and crazy people are just as adaptable as sane people. The core problem is mentally unhealthy people, not the weapons they choose to carry out their fantasies.

Yet, we have a murder rate five times that of countries with gun control

Yet we are number 11 in per capita deaths for mass shootings, go figure.


.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Uber false comparison fail. This is like comparing apples and tennis shoes. Just the fact that gun licks need to go to these ludicrous lengths to try to defend their indefensible nonsense speaks directly to why all their arguments are easily defeated. "No need for semi-automatic rifles? Tell that to the G.I.s storming the beaches at Normandy".

Nonsense to be ignored.

What you fail to understand is the range difference.
A rifle is needed for the distances they engage the enemy on the battlefield.
In a school? Not so much.

 

[rightwinger]

Right now, the weapon of choice is the trusty AR 15
Those “tiny rounds” seem to be quite effective in slaughtering school children

As is your standard 9mm. What's your point?

Point is the trusty AR15 in a militarized configuration is still the weapon of choice for those wishing to shoot up a school, church or movie theater

And?

So?

 

[rightwinger]

Right now, the weapon of choice is the trusty AR 15
Those “tiny rounds” seem to be quite effective in slaughtering school children

Wrong.....the majority of mass shootings are done with pistols...the worst school shooting in the country, Virginia Tech, was done with 2 pistols....murdering 32 people......

And a muslim terrorist in Nice, France, using a rental truck murdered 86 people...

800lb gorilla in the room
Most of our 30,000 gun deaths are done with pistols

If we really want to impact our gun carnage, we need to restrict access to handguns

Your concerns seem less to do with carnage and more to do with an unhealthy fear of guns. If you were able to eliminate guns altogether, carnage would just be carried out with other weapons. People are adaptive, and crazy people are just as adaptable as sane people. The core problem is mentally unhealthy people, not the weapons they choose to carry out their fantasies.

Yet, we have a murder rate five times that of countries with gun control

Yet we are number 11 in per capita deaths for mass shootings, go figure.


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Go ahead....make my day
Tell us who the other ten are

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Right now, the weapon of choice is the trusty AR 15
Those “tiny rounds” seem to be quite effective in slaughtering school children

As is your standard 9mm. What's your point?

Point is the trusty AR15 in a militarized configuration is still the weapon of choice for those wishing to shoot up a school, church or movie theater

And?

So?

Exactly

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Uber false comparison fail. This is like comparing apples and tennis shoes. Just the fact that gun licks need to go to these ludicrous lengths to try to defend their indefensible nonsense speaks directly to why all their arguments are easily defeated. "No need for semi-automatic rifles? Tell that to the G.I.s storming the beaches at Normandy".

Nonsense to be ignored.

What you fail to understand is the range difference.
A rifle is needed for the distances they engage the enemy on the battlefield.
In a school? Not so much.

View attachment 185710

No,I actually shoot,hunt and know the limitations of firearms.
Unlike you apparently.

 

[OKTexas]

Wrong.....the majority of mass shootings are done with pistols...the worst school shooting in the country, Virginia Tech, was done with 2 pistols....murdering 32 people......

And a muslim terrorist in Nice, France, using a rental truck murdered 86 people...

800lb gorilla in the room
Most of our 30,000 gun deaths are done with pistols

If we really want to impact our gun carnage, we need to restrict access to handguns

Your concerns seem less to do with carnage and more to do with an unhealthy fear of guns. If you were able to eliminate guns altogether, carnage would just be carried out with other weapons. People are adaptive, and crazy people are just as adaptable as sane people. The core problem is mentally unhealthy people, not the weapons they choose to carry out their fantasies.

Yet, we have a murder rate five times that of countries with gun control

Yet we are number 11 in per capita deaths for mass shootings, go figure.


.

Go ahead....make my day
Tell us who the other ten are

 

[Marion Morrison]

I ain't hunted with guns since 28 years ago.

I can pull down all the venison I want, though.

 

[Contumacious]

Uber false comparison fail. This is like comparing apples and tennis shoes. Just the fact that gun licks need to go to these ludicrous lengths to try to defend their indefensible nonsense speaks directly to why all their arguments are easily defeated. "No need for semi-automatic rifles? Tell that to the G.I.s storming the beaches at Normandy".

Nonsense to be ignored.

AR15's , or AK47's , will be available in the free market or in the black market.


The socialists' bullshit is pure nonsense to be ignored.