Are all gays born that way?

[uscitizen]

Priests can't get married.

 

[Seawytch]

Priests can't get married.

No, but the straight ones have girlfriends and the gay ones have boyfriends. The pedophile ones have the Church leaders to protect them and transfer them to new parishes.

 

[Seawytch]

Oh, and legally Priests can...

 

[uscitizen]

Oh, and legally Priests can...

Yeah it is wonderful that we do not live under a religious government.

Of couese they are not priests anymore if they marry.
so technically they can get married but not be married.

 

[Peach]

So is it discrimination when the casinos only pay out to their own tribe?

Is it discrimination when McDonald's employees aren't afforded the same tax breaks as people who employ hundreds of people?

Indians can get married no matter what tribe they are from.
McDonalds employees can get married no matter what tax break they get.
Everyone that gets tax breaks can get married.
Except gay folk.
See how stupid your post was?

Committed murderers on death row can get married no matter what prison they are in. (SCOTUS ruling)

The dregs of societies often are compelled to seek out "groups" of other humans that they can focus their lack of a soul, their inner void, by hating.

 

[uscitizen]

Indians can get married no matter what tribe they are from.
McDonalds employees can get married no matter what tax break they get.
Everyone that gets tax breaks can get married.
Except gay folk.
See how stupid your post was?

Committed murderers on death row can get married no matter what prison they are in. (SCOTUS ruling)

The dregs of societies often are compelled to seek out "groups" of other humans that they can focus their lack of a soul, their inner void, by hating.

so someone marries one on death row because they hate them??

I thought only normal people did that.

 

[koshergrl]

So is it discrimination when the casinos only pay out to their own tribe?

Is it discrimination when McDonald's employees aren't afforded the same tax breaks as people who employ hundreds of people?

Indians can get married no matter what tribe they are from.
McDonalds employees can get married no matter what tax break they get.
Everyone that gets tax breaks can get married.
Except gay folk.
See how stupid your post was?

Committed murderers on death row can get married no matter what prison they are in. (SCOTUS ruling)

Gays can get married too.

Just not to each other. Because that's not what our society recognizes as "marriage".

 

[koshergrl]

Indians can get married no matter what tribe they are from.
McDonalds employees can get married no matter what tax break they get.
Everyone that gets tax breaks can get married.
Except gay folk.
See how stupid your post was?

Committed murderers on death row can get married no matter what prison they are in. (SCOTUS ruling)

The dregs of societies often are compelled to seek out "groups" of other humans that they can focus their lack of a soul, their inner void, by hating.

That's right. Cuz if you don't agree with crap reasoning, obviously you "hate".

"Hate" is what the left uses to intimidate the majority into coming to heel.

Marriage is one man and one woman. It is not discriminatory, any adult can get married...to one person of the opposite sex, one at a time, in this country.

Gays can as well. Nobody cares what their sexual orientation is. But two guys are not one man and one woman, and therefore don't meet the criteria required to be a married couple in this country.

 

[Seawytch]

Obviously you are going to ignore the overwhelming majority of scientists that will tell you sexual orientation is not a choice. So, that being the case, let's talk this out, Seawytch to Koshergrl, okay?

You want to insist that orientation is a choice (for what reason I don't know) so let's go with that for a sec...

Could you choose to have sex with a woman? And I'm not just talking about closing your eyes and being on the receiving end of the most mind blowing cunnilingus you've ever experienced, but giving it in return and caring about how well you were doing it?

And sex is just the fringe benefit...

Could you choose to be emotionally attracted to a woman? Could you choose to have your stomach flip flop when she smiled at you? Could you choose to want to melt when she gave you that certain look? Could you choose to want to spend the rest of your life with her as a partner in mind, body and soul? Could you choose to look at her every day and thank your lucky stars that she came into your life and hung a string of lights around your heart? Could you choose all that?

Kosher, you gonna answer my question about "choice"?

 

[koshergrl]

We should really do away with that marriage tax break.

I'm sure you would prefer heteros be penalized for getting married, and be forced to sterilize themselves after 1 child.

Too bad for you.

 

[BDBoop]

Obviously you are going to ignore the overwhelming majority of scientists that will tell you sexual orientation is not a choice. So, that being the case, let's talk this out, Seawytch to Koshergrl, okay?

You want to insist that orientation is a choice (for what reason I don't know) so let's go with that for a sec...

Could you choose to have sex with a woman? And I'm not just talking about closing your eyes and being on the receiving end of the most mind blowing cunnilingus you've ever experienced, but giving it in return and caring about how well you were doing it?

And sex is just the fringe benefit...

Could you choose to be emotionally attracted to a woman? Could you choose to have your stomach flip flop when she smiled at you? Could you choose to want to melt when she gave you that certain look? Could you choose to want to spend the rest of your life with her as a partner in mind, body and soul? Could you choose to look at her every day and thank your lucky stars that she came into your life and hung a string of lights around your heart? Could you choose all that?

Kosher, you gonna answer my question about "choice"?

Phfft.

 

[koshergrl]

Obviously you are going to ignore the overwhelming majority of scientists that will tell you sexual orientation is not a choice. So, that being the case, let's talk this out, Seawytch to Koshergrl, okay?

You want to insist that orientation is a choice (for what reason I don't know) so let's go with that for a sec...

Could you choose to have sex with a woman? And I'm not just talking about closing your eyes and being on the receiving end of the most mind blowing cunnilingus you've ever experienced, but giving it in return and caring about how well you were doing it?

And sex is just the fringe benefit...

Could you choose to be emotionally attracted to a woman? Could you choose to have your stomach flip flop when she smiled at you? Could you choose to want to melt when she gave you that certain look? Could you choose to want to spend the rest of your life with her as a partner in mind, body and soul? Could you choose to look at her every day and thank your lucky stars that she came into your life and hung a string of lights around your heart? Could you choose all that?

Kosher, you gonna answer my question about "choice"?

Of course I could choose to do that.

I'm not going to, though, any more than I'm going to choose to be over the moon over a guy right now.

People make these choices all the time. Women and men choose to remain single, and talk themselves into love, and out of love, with inappropriate, or appropriate, people all the time.

They choose to put love on hold for years, decades even, and then when they are in a different spot in their lives, they choose to find someone to fall in love with...and they do it. Or they decide with their minds that a person would be a suitable partner, and they convince their hearts to follow suit. This happens all the time with arranged marriages, but it happens outside of that construct as well. I know people who have done this, and you probably do, too.

We are not slaves to our bodies, nor to our emotions. People who are are patently narcissistic, and undisciplined.

I've had very close and loving relationships with women as well as men. They could easily have been sexual, except I chose not to pursue sexual relations...and not because I was repulsed by them. I just didn't see the point. I have control over myself and my emotions. That's not to say I haven't made stupid decisions, chosen the wrong people, become overwrought...I have. But it always came down to a choice. Always. As it does with every person in the world, except those who are literally forced and abused and cannot make choices on their own.

 

[BDBoop]

Yeah. She lied.

 

[koshergrl]

Pooper, I wouldn't dream of toppling you from your liar's throne.

 

[BDBoop]

Pooper, I wouldn't dream of toppling you from your liar's throne.

But you do! All day, every day. You post, you breathe, you lie.

 

[koshergrl]

Stalker!!!

 

[MikeK]

Given the FACT that human reproduction requires intercourse between a man (donor) and a woman(host) isn't "gayness" a learned, or behavior modification i.e. "nature vs nurture"?

I mean researchers still haven't found a "dominate" GAY gene.
So existing gays are totally "learned" or behavior modification response.

Homosexuality is not genetic nor is it a learned behavior. The sex urge is facilitated by the influence of hormones on the brain. If a male is born with or develops a hormonal imbalance (too much estrogen + not enough testosterone) he will be sexually attracted to other males. Same (though inverted) situation with females. But owing to their more complicated hormonal makeup and innate psychological sensitivity human females are more inclined to superficial homosexual conduct than are males.

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[MikeK]

Given the FACT that human reproduction requires intercourse between a man (donor) and a woman(host) isn't "gayness" a learned, or behavior modification i.e. "nature vs nurture"?

I mean researchers still haven't found a "dominate" GAY gene.
So existing gays are totally a "learned" or behavior modification response.

No....

An individual that has been molested by the same sex is more often going to be a homosexual.

Homosexuality can be brainwashed into an individual to boot...

You think the Romans were all born bi-sexual or were they trained to be bi-sexual or even homosexual??

Homosexuality violates every aspect of evolution, yet it's those who strongly promote evolution who accept homosexuality as "rational behavior."

Please anyone explain how survival of a species includes homosexuality??

Homosexuality has been observed in virtually all animal species. While it is abnormal it is not unnatural.

 

[koshergrl]

At one time the Christian church persecuted left handed folk also.
Amazing how ignorance prevails each and every election cycle.

Not allowing gays to marry isn't "persecution". It's just refusing to give them the benefits we allot to people who choose to participate in a favored social construct.

Hmmmm....well Jews make up about 2.1% of the United States population and they participate in activities that are not the "favored social construct". Shall we deny them the right to marry too? Southern Baptists 6.7%, Mormons 1.4%, Seventh Day Adventist 0.4%, Buddhists 0.5%, evangelicals 0.9%. All of them choose to participate in activities that are not in a "favored social construct". Shall we ban their rights to marry?

Nope, because anybody can get married

But two guys together aren't a marriage. Sorry. You'll have to find a different word. That one's already taken.

 

[BDBoop]

Sorry, there are several states where men are already married. They got to keep the word, and everything.