Are Atheists Delusional?

[progressive hunter]

I hope you see that without the millions of yrs evolution falls apart

What I see is someone without a clue as what evolution is and, what is much worse, no desire to understand it. Thanks for your time, it's been fun in a sad kind of way.

hey your the one that says time has nothing to do with it when its the very basis for it


and sad is true since you still think an ape gave birth to a human

 

[Taz]

thats why I said on a small scale,,,and a global flood could be that larger scale and it would also explain a lot of other things like fossil grave yards

and the span of time is everything since the claim is millions of years and its also the basis for evolution theory,

going off your theory how long between those layers??? 5 minutes or 50 million yrs???
it does make a difference

they claim coal takes millions of yrs but we can do it in hours

Fossil grave yards don't require a global flood but that is a subject for another time.

If you want to attack the evolutionary mechanism of natural selection, then you are correct, time matters. The evolutionary theory I'm talking about, decent from a common ancestor, has numerous lines of evidence and time is not really one of them. The descent could have happened in 50 million years or in 5 minutes, that is irrelevant, the only relevant issue is did it occur or didn't it?

I hope you see that without the millions of yrs evolution falls apart

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

 

[progressive hunter]

thats why I said on a small scale,,,and a global flood could be that larger scale and it would also explain a lot of other things like fossil grave yards

and the span of time is everything since the claim is millions of years and its also the basis for evolution theory,

going off your theory how long between those layers??? 5 minutes or 50 million yrs???
it does make a difference

they claim coal takes millions of yrs but we can do it in hours

Fossil grave yards don't require a global flood but that is a subject for another time.

If you want to attack the evolutionary mechanism of natural selection, then you are correct, time matters. The evolutionary theory I'm talking about, decent from a common ancestor, has numerous lines of evidence and time is not really one of them. The descent could have happened in 50 million years or in 5 minutes, that is irrelevant, the only relevant issue is did it occur or didn't it?

I hope you see that without the millions of yrs evolution falls apart

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

so short people are lower forms of life,,,
what about black people?? are they also lower forms of life???

sorry your opinion doesnt make it so


and it still doesnt prove an ape gave birth to a human as per what evolution claims

 

[progressive hunter]

thats why I said on a small scale,,,and a global flood could be that larger scale and it would also explain a lot of other things like fossil grave yards

and the span of time is everything since the claim is millions of years and its also the basis for evolution theory,

going off your theory how long between those layers??? 5 minutes or 50 million yrs???
it does make a difference

they claim coal takes millions of yrs but we can do it in hours

Fossil grave yards don't require a global flood but that is a subject for another time.

If you want to attack the evolutionary mechanism of natural selection, then you are correct, time matters. The evolutionary theory I'm talking about, decent from a common ancestor, has numerous lines of evidence and time is not really one of them. The descent could have happened in 50 million years or in 5 minutes, that is irrelevant, the only relevant issue is did it occur or didn't it?

I hope you see that without the millions of yrs evolution falls apart

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

 

[Taz]

Fossil grave yards don't require a global flood but that is a subject for another time.

If you want to attack the evolutionary mechanism of natural selection, then you are correct, time matters. The evolutionary theory I'm talking about, decent from a common ancestor, has numerous lines of evidence and time is not really one of them. The descent could have happened in 50 million years or in 5 minutes, that is irrelevant, the only relevant issue is did it occur or didn't it?

I hope you see that without the millions of yrs evolution falls apart

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

so short people are lower forms of life,,,
what about black people?? are they also lower forms of life???

sorry your opinion doesnt make it so


and it still doesnt prove an ape gave birth to a human as per what evolution claims

Nobody ever said that an ape gave birth to a human. And blacks and short people aren't lower forms of life, nobody ever said that either. But it's a fact that humans are getting taller over time ON AVERAGE. It's a fact!

 

[Taz]

Fossil grave yards don't require a global flood but that is a subject for another time.

If you want to attack the evolutionary mechanism of natural selection, then you are correct, time matters. The evolutionary theory I'm talking about, decent from a common ancestor, has numerous lines of evidence and time is not really one of them. The descent could have happened in 50 million years or in 5 minutes, that is irrelevant, the only relevant issue is did it occur or didn't it?

I hope you see that without the millions of yrs evolution falls apart

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

Just as humans are evolving to be taller over time, in the past, we evolved from an ape-like species over millions of years. We were smaller, had more hair on our bodies. Eventually we became bi-pedal, learned how to use tools...

Just curious, how do YOU think humans got here? An invisible being magically poofed us into existence? Something else?

 

[progressive hunter]

I hope you see that without the millions of yrs evolution falls apart

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

so short people are lower forms of life,,,
what about black people?? are they also lower forms of life???

sorry your opinion doesnt make it so


and it still doesnt prove an ape gave birth to a human as per what evolution claims

Nobody ever said that an ape gave birth to a human. And blacks and short people aren't lower forms of life, nobody ever said that either. But it's a fact that humans are getting taller over time ON AVERAGE. It's a fact!

but you just said tall people are further along the evolution line,,,so doesnt that mean short people are further back???

and your claim doesnt hold water since all through human history short people gave birth to tall people and tall people gave birth to short people

 

[progressive hunter]

I hope you see that without the millions of yrs evolution falls apart

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

Just as humans are evolving to be taller over time, in the past, we evolved from an ape-like species over millions of years. We were smaller, had more hair on our bodies. Eventually we became bi-pedal, learned how to use tools...

Just curious, how do YOU think humans got here? An invisible being magically poofed us into existence? Something else?

so whats your proof apelike creatures gave birth to humans???

 

[Taz]

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

so short people are lower forms of life,,,
what about black people?? are they also lower forms of life???

sorry your opinion doesnt make it so


and it still doesnt prove an ape gave birth to a human as per what evolution claims

Nobody ever said that an ape gave birth to a human. And blacks and short people aren't lower forms of life, nobody ever said that either. But it's a fact that humans are getting taller over time ON AVERAGE. It's a fact!

but you just said tall people are further along the evolution line,,,so doesnt that mean short people are further back???

and your claim doesnt hold water since all through human history short people gave birth to tall people and tall people gave birth to short people

I said ON AVERAGE, humans are becoming taller over time. Which we are.

 

[progressive hunter]

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thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

so short people are lower forms of life,,,
what about black people?? are they also lower forms of life???

sorry your opinion doesnt make it so


and it still doesnt prove an ape gave birth to a human as per what evolution claims

Nobody ever said that an ape gave birth to a human. And blacks and short people aren't lower forms of life, nobody ever said that either. But it's a fact that humans are getting taller over time ON AVERAGE. It's a fact!

but you just said tall people are further along the evolution line,,,so doesnt that mean short people are further back???

and your claim doesnt hold water since all through human history short people gave birth to tall people and tall people gave birth to short people

I said ON AVERAGE, humans are becoming taller over time. Which we are.

we are also getting fatter,,,

still not proof of evolution

 

[Taz]

No, evolution can be seen on a scale of a couple of hundred years. Look at houses and clothes from 200 years ago, they are all smaller than what we have now. meaning that humans are evolving to be taller beings.

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

Just as humans are evolving to be taller over time, in the past, we evolved from an ape-like species over millions of years. We were smaller, had more hair on our bodies. Eventually we became bi-pedal, learned how to use tools...

Just curious, how do YOU think humans got here? An invisible being magically poofed us into existence? Something else?

so whats your proof apelike creatures gave birth to humans???

They didn't give birth to humans, they evolved over time to be humans.

So how do you think humans got here?

 

[Taz]

o

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

so short people are lower forms of life,,,
what about black people?? are they also lower forms of life???

sorry your opinion doesnt make it so


and it still doesnt prove an ape gave birth to a human as per what evolution claims

Nobody ever said that an ape gave birth to a human. And blacks and short people aren't lower forms of life, nobody ever said that either. But it's a fact that humans are getting taller over time ON AVERAGE. It's a fact!

but you just said tall people are further along the evolution line,,,so doesnt that mean short people are further back???

and your claim doesnt hold water since all through human history short people gave birth to tall people and tall people gave birth to short people

I said ON AVERAGE, humans are becoming taller over time. Which we are.

we are also getting fatter,,,

still not proof of evolution

It's a fact that humans are getter taller over time, just look at houses and clothes from 300 years ago. People back in Jesus' time were also shorter as a group then we are now.

 

[progressive hunter]

o

so short people are lower forms of life,,,
what about black people?? are they also lower forms of life???

sorry your opinion doesnt make it so


and it still doesnt prove an ape gave birth to a human as per what evolution claims

Nobody ever said that an ape gave birth to a human. And blacks and short people aren't lower forms of life, nobody ever said that either. But it's a fact that humans are getting taller over time ON AVERAGE. It's a fact!

but you just said tall people are further along the evolution line,,,so doesnt that mean short people are further back???

and your claim doesnt hold water since all through human history short people gave birth to tall people and tall people gave birth to short people

I said ON AVERAGE, humans are becoming taller over time. Which we are.

we are also getting fatter,,,

still not proof of evolution

It's a fact that humans are getter taller over time, just look at houses and clothes from 300 years ago. People back in Jesus' time were also shorter as a group then we are now.

but we are still humans,,,a change within species is not evolution as taught,,,if you want to call it micro evo feel free but thats not whats taught


and what about fat people???

 

[progressive hunter]

thats not evolution,,,unless youre saying short people are lower forms of life, or that tall people are more advanced people,,,

and who said being taller is better

and how does that prove non living matter became living matter??
or that an ape gave birth to a human???
and what if a tall person gives birth to a short person>???


sorry you cant just make shit up and call it evolution

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

Just as humans are evolving to be taller over time, in the past, we evolved from an ape-like species over millions of years. We were smaller, had more hair on our bodies. Eventually we became bi-pedal, learned how to use tools...

Just curious, how do YOU think humans got here? An invisible being magically poofed us into existence? Something else?

so whats your proof apelike creatures gave birth to humans???

They didn't give birth to humans, they evolved over time to be humans.

So how do you think humans got here?

whats that mean??? they just magically changed ???

 

[Taz]

o

Nobody ever said that an ape gave birth to a human. And blacks and short people aren't lower forms of life, nobody ever said that either. But it's a fact that humans are getting taller over time ON AVERAGE. It's a fact!

but you just said tall people are further along the evolution line,,,so doesnt that mean short people are further back???

and your claim doesnt hold water since all through human history short people gave birth to tall people and tall people gave birth to short people

I said ON AVERAGE, humans are becoming taller over time. Which we are.

we are also getting fatter,,,

still not proof of evolution

It's a fact that humans are getter taller over time, just look at houses and clothes from 300 years ago. People back in Jesus' time were also shorter as a group then we are now.

but we are still humans,,,a change within species is not evolution as taught,,,if you want to call it micro evo feel free but thats not thats taught


and what about fat people???

Fat people eat too much. I don't know of any studies that say we are evolving to be fatter as a species.

And yes, change within a species IS evolution.

 

[sealybobo]

Why are you saying he never met jesus?

With Hollie, the answer is in the last word of the title of this thread.

We can't establish with certainty that Paul did meet Jesus, except on the road to Damascus (after Resurrection), through the Bible. That said, he lived where Jesus was. He lived in Jerusalem growing up and worked there as an adult in the stoning of Stephen. His family lived in Jerusalem for a long time. Jesus visited Jerusalem to do his work, so Paul probably saw him there. Obviously, Jesus' followers would have him avoid meeting Saul.

Saul?

 

[progressive hunter]

o

but you just said tall people are further along the evolution line,,,so doesnt that mean short people are further back???

and your claim doesnt hold water since all through human history short people gave birth to tall people and tall people gave birth to short people

I said ON AVERAGE, humans are becoming taller over time. Which we are.

we are also getting fatter,,,

still not proof of evolution

It's a fact that humans are getter taller over time, just look at houses and clothes from 300 years ago. People back in Jesus' time were also shorter as a group then we are now.

but we are still humans,,,a change within species is not evolution as taught,,,if you want to call it micro evo feel free but thats not thats taught


and what about fat people???

Fat people eat too much. I don't know of any studies that say we are evolving to be fatter as a species.

And yes, change within a species IS evolution.

if you say so...but you still have no proof

 

[Taz]

Being taller is simply how we are evolving and is proof of evolution. That you deny it anyways doesn't surprise anyone here, you're not that bright.

Just as humans are evolving to be taller over time, in the past, we evolved from an ape-like species over millions of years. We were smaller, had more hair on our bodies. Eventually we became bi-pedal, learned how to use tools...

Just curious, how do YOU think humans got here? An invisible being magically poofed us into existence? Something else?

so whats your proof apelike creatures gave birth to humans???

They didn't give birth to humans, they evolved over time to be humans.

So how do you think humans got here?

whats that mean??? they just magically changed ???

Meaning that as an ape-like species, we walked on all fours, but because of survival benefits, some of this ape-like species eventually started to walk upright, and because walking upright helped evade predators better, this became the norm for this new species of ape-like creature.

So how do you think humans got here?

 

[progressive hunter]

o

but you just said tall people are further along the evolution line,,,so doesnt that mean short people are further back???

and your claim doesnt hold water since all through human history short people gave birth to tall people and tall people gave birth to short people

I said ON AVERAGE, humans are becoming taller over time. Which we are.

we are also getting fatter,,,

still not proof of evolution

It's a fact that humans are getter taller over time, just look at houses and clothes from 300 years ago. People back in Jesus' time were also shorter as a group then we are now.

but we are still humans,,,a change within species is not evolution as taught,,,if you want to call it micro evo feel free but thats not thats taught


and what about fat people???

Fat people eat too much. I don't know of any studies that say we are evolving to be fatter as a species.

And yes, change within a species IS evolution.

and what study say taller people are a product of evo??

it could also be due to what they eat??

and whats that say to a person that gives birth to a short person??

 

[progressive hunter]

Just as humans are evolving to be taller over time, in the past, we evolved from an ape-like species over millions of years. We were smaller, had more hair on our bodies. Eventually we became bi-pedal, learned how to use tools...

Just curious, how do YOU think humans got here? An invisible being magically poofed us into existence? Something else?

so whats your proof apelike creatures gave birth to humans???

They didn't give birth to humans, they evolved over time to be humans.

So how do you think humans got here?

whats that mean??? they just magically changed ???

Meaning that as an ape-like species, we walked on all fours, but because of survival benefits, some of this ape-like species eventually started to walk upright, and because walking upright helped evade predators better, this became the norm for this new species of ape-like creature.

So how do you think humans got here?

thats nice but there is no proof that happened