Are conservatives smarter than liberals?

[LoneLaugher]

Wonderful.

I went to Japan a few times when I was a Merchant Marine.

I'd slit my wrists before I'd go back to any port city in Asia.

Is that right? Did you catch something?

Didn't catch anything.

Just found the human condition there unbearable to look at.

This was over 45 years ago, mind you.

Things have changed. You might want to open your mind up a bit.

 

[guno]

Ask yourself this question - Are we advancing or falling behind?
Has Liberal entitlement programs lifted the poor out of poverty or has it kept them in poverty?
Is our society breaking down or is it becoming better?
The answer is no to all three.

What's the matter? You don't like living in a society of the haves and have nots? Why not?
Are we advancing you ask. Well the very rich and the ultra rich are "advancing" just fine. What is the problem?
The declining standard of living for lots of folks is just the outcome of a lack of good paying jobs. Not to worry. Their lack of disposable income will have no effect on the very very rich that run the country. So what is the problem?

My wife and I find ourselves in the upper 10% of income numbers and things are fine with us.
What is YOUR problem? The rest of us with some money are doing fine.

Did you lose your good paying job?

The libs took over 40 years ago and the middle class has been declining ever since.
That is a fact not an opinion.

Are you serious? The liberal era which began with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society saw the largest growth of the middle class in our history. The conservative era began 40 years ago.

do you people ever get tired of spewing the line? it's so pathetic

I think some people ran off when asked to state THEIR degrees and careers.

Steph when did you get our .. ahem.. GED?

 

[peach174]

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when you have to rely on a googel [sic] dictionary to find definitions that describe yourself and your lying party, you have lost your side of the argument, nowhere in the spelling of Conservative can you find a lie.., BUT!! in the spelling of LIEberal, there is no escaping the fact that liberal can NOT be spelled without a "LIbE"

none of those dictionary definitions fit todays LIEberals..., 100 years or so ago, but NOT today !!!

Is this a serious post?

Ask yourself this question - Are we advancing or falling behind?
Has Liberal entitlement programs lifted the poor out of poverty or has it kept them in poverty?
Is our society breaking down or is it becoming better?
The answer is no to all three.

Social Security and Medicare have lifted MILLIONS of Americans out of poverty. Before Medicare, elderly were the most likely group to fall into poverty, after Medicare elderly are the LEAST likely to live in poverty.

Conservatives have NEVER done anything to help the poor. They loathe the poor.

Conservatives give just as much to charities as Liberals do.
They do not hate the poor
We pay into those programs for years before we receive them.

Oh, so terms like 'moochers' is meant to be endearing...

I myself would never use that word.
People that can work for a living but take government assistance programs.
Why should they when the can get more in assistance than working in a low paying job?
Would most work at a job that pays 12,000.00 a year or get government assistance that pays 32,000.00 a year?

 

[Kosh]

Wonderful.

I went to Japan a few times when I was a Merchant Marine.

I'd slit my wrists before I'd go back to any port city in Asia.

Is that right? Did you catch something?

Didn't catch anything.

Just found the human condition there unbearable to look at.

This was over 45 years ago, mind you.

Things have changed. You might want to open your mind up a bit.

Oh my! That is rich coming from a far left drone running on the far left programmed narrative!

Next thing they will be posting that a Conservative could never be a Democrat..

 

[LoneLaugher]

Is this a serious post?

Ask yourself this question - Are we advancing or falling behind?
Has Liberal entitlement programs lifted the poor out of poverty or has it kept them in poverty?
Is our society breaking down or is it becoming better?
The answer is no to all three.

Social Security and Medicare have lifted MILLIONS of Americans out of poverty. Before Medicare, elderly were the most likely group to fall into poverty, after Medicare elderly are the LEAST likely to live in poverty.

Conservatives have NEVER done anything to help the poor. They loathe the poor.

Conservatives give just as much to charities as Liberals do.
They do not hate the poor
We pay into those programs for years before we receive them.

Oh, so terms like 'moochers' is meant to be endearing...

I myself would never use that word.
People that can work for a living but take government assistance programs.
Why should they when the can get more in assistance than working in a low paying job?
Would most work at a job that pays 12,000.00 a year or get government assistance that pays 32,000.00 a year?

You have interesting numbers.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Wonderful.

I went to Japan a few times when I was a Merchant Marine.

I'd slit my wrists before I'd go back to any port city in Asia.

Is that right? Did you catch something?

Didn't catch anything.

Just found the human condition there unbearable to look at.

This was over 45 years ago, mind you.

Things have changed. You might want to open your mind up a bit.

Oh my! That is rich coming from a far left drone running on the far left programmed narrative!

Next thing they will be posting that a Conservative could never be a Democrat..

Congratulations. I think you just posted three sentences with almost no grammar or spelling mistakes. Good job.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Uh ya. The party that rejects science is smarter than the party that embraces it.

 

[Unkotare]

Steph when did you get our .. ahem.. GED?

"Our"?

 

[LeftofLeft]

- Jonathan Gruber was the architect of the plan.
- Liberal Leaders Pelosi and Reid sited Gruber by name and his talking points to justify the plan.
- Conservatives rejected the plan siting the costs and fallacies.
- Gruber confirms that the success of the passage of the legislation hinged on Lack of Transparency and Stupidity of the American Voter who supported the legislation.

 

[Bfgrn]

Is this a serious post?

Ask yourself this question - Are we advancing or falling behind?
Has Liberal entitlement programs lifted the poor out of poverty or has it kept them in poverty?
Is our society breaking down or is it becoming better?
The answer is no to all three.

Social Security and Medicare have lifted MILLIONS of Americans out of poverty. Before Medicare, elderly were the most likely group to fall into poverty, after Medicare elderly are the LEAST likely to live in poverty.

Conservatives have NEVER done anything to help the poor. They loathe the poor.

Conservatives give just as much to charities as Liberals do.
They do not hate the poor
We pay into those programs for years before we receive them.

Oh, so terms like 'moochers' is meant to be endearing...

I myself would never use that word.
People that can work for a living but take government assistance programs.
Why should they when the can get more in assistance than working in a low paying job?
Would most work at a job that pays 12,000.00 a year or get government assistance that pays 32,000.00 a year?

We found who the 47% Romney trashed really are...

America's safety net is below almost every other industrialized country in every measure. America more closely resembles the likes of Mexico than a modern First World industrialized nation.

We heard the ignorant rant of Mitt Romney and his 47%...

If there is a citizenry on this planet that does NOT have an entitlement mentality, it is the American people. American workers receive less benefits, paid leave, health care and take less vacation time than any other people. American workers take pride in the quality of their work and their work ethic.

What Romney said is a gross insult and reveals a dangerous mindset. He reeks of contempt for middle class working people and the poor.

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

[peach174]

- Jonathan Gruber was the architect of the plan.
- Liberal Leaders Pelosi and Reid sited Gruber by name and his talking points to justify the plan.
- Conservatives rejected the plan siting the costs and fallacies.
- Gruber confirms that the success of the passage of the legislation hinged on Lack of Transparency and Stupidity of the American Voter who supported the legislation.

Then Pelosi just recently said she had never heard of him.

 

[peach174]

Ask yourself this question - Are we advancing or falling behind?
Has Liberal entitlement programs lifted the poor out of poverty or has it kept them in poverty?
Is our society breaking down or is it becoming better?
The answer is no to all three.

Social Security and Medicare have lifted MILLIONS of Americans out of poverty. Before Medicare, elderly were the most likely group to fall into poverty, after Medicare elderly are the LEAST likely to live in poverty.

Conservatives have NEVER done anything to help the poor. They loathe the poor.

Conservatives give just as much to charities as Liberals do.
They do not hate the poor
We pay into those programs for years before we receive them.

Oh, so terms like 'moochers' is meant to be endearing...

I myself would never use that word.
People that can work for a living but take government assistance programs.
Why should they when the can get more in assistance than working in a low paying job?
Would most work at a job that pays 12,000.00 a year or get government assistance that pays 32,000.00 a year?

We found who the 47% Romney trashed really are...

America's safety net is below almost every other industrialized country in every measure. America more closely resembles the likes of Mexico than a modern First World industrialized nation.

We heard the ignorant rant of Mitt Romney and his 47%...

If there is a citizenry on this planet that does NOT have an entitlement mentality, it is the American people. American workers receive less benefits, paid leave, health care and take less vacation time than any other people. American workers take pride in the quality of their work and their work ethic.

What Romney said is a gross insult and reveals a dangerous mindset. He reeks of contempt for middle class working people and the poor.

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Romney was talking about the 47% who do not pay taxes.
Fact-checking Romney s 47 percent comment - CBS News
The Quote "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
True or false? Much of Romney's statement relies on assumptions about one demographic: The 47 percent of Americans who he says "pay no income tax." So is it true that 47 percent of Americans don't pay income tax? Essentially, yes, according to the the Tax Policy Center, which provides data showing that in 2011, 46.4 percent of American households paid no federal income tax.
There is where he messed up by not saying federal income tax.

 

[Bfgrn]

Social Security and Medicare have lifted MILLIONS of Americans out of poverty. Before Medicare, elderly were the most likely group to fall into poverty, after Medicare elderly are the LEAST likely to live in poverty.

Conservatives have NEVER done anything to help the poor. They loathe the poor.

Conservatives give just as much to charities as Liberals do.
They do not hate the poor
We pay into those programs for years before we receive them.

Oh, so terms like 'moochers' is meant to be endearing...

I myself would never use that word.
People that can work for a living but take government assistance programs.
Why should they when the can get more in assistance than working in a low paying job?
Would most work at a job that pays 12,000.00 a year or get government assistance that pays 32,000.00 a year?

We found who the 47% Romney trashed really are...

America's safety net is below almost every other industrialized country in every measure. America more closely resembles the likes of Mexico than a modern First World industrialized nation.

We heard the ignorant rant of Mitt Romney and his 47%...

If there is a citizenry on this planet that does NOT have an entitlement mentality, it is the American people. American workers receive less benefits, paid leave, health care and take less vacation time than any other people. American workers take pride in the quality of their work and their work ethic.

What Romney said is a gross insult and reveals a dangerous mindset. He reeks of contempt for middle class working people and the poor.

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Romney was talking about the 47% who do not pay taxes.
Fact-checking Romney s 47 percent comment - CBS News
The Quote "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
True or false? Much of Romney's statement relies on assumptions about one demographic: The 47 percent of Americans who he says "pay no income tax." So is it true that 47 percent of Americans don't pay income tax? Essentially, yes, according to the the Tax Policy Center, which provides data showing that in 2011, 46.4 percent of American households paid no federal income tax.
There is where he messed up by not saying federal income tax.

WOW. talk about blind ignorance...

You IGNORE this?

"who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them"

 

[LoneLaugher]

- Jonathan Gruber was the architect of the plan.
- Liberal Leaders Pelosi and Reid sited Gruber by name and his talking points to justify the plan.
- Conservatives rejected the plan siting the costs and fallacies.
- Gruber confirms that the success of the passage of the legislation hinged on Lack of Transparency and Stupidity of the American Voter who supported the legislation.

Architect? That sounds impressive.

New Obamacare furor Was Jonathan Gruber the architect - Paige Winfield Cunningham - POLITICO

siting?

Confirms? Ooooh. That's serious.

 

[Saigon]

Please point out where I have confused those terms!

In every post.

You DO NOT understand what the term 'far left' means. You really don't, dude.

It DOES NOT mean 'liberal'.

Do you think you look smart by using a term in every post that you VERY clearly do not know the meaning of? It makes you look like a child.

 

[Saigon]

Of course if you were really interested in such "labels" you would nail the far left OP from a far left European country with such non-sense..

You are perfect example of how education matters little to the far left religion..

Speaking of education - the word is 'nonsense', not 'non-sense', when far left is used as an adjective it is hyphenated (e.g. 'a far-left government') and Finland has a CONSERVATIVE government at the moment.

Do you really think a thread about intelligence is one you are equipped to post on?

 

[LeftofLeft]

- Jonathan Gruber was the architect of the plan.
- Liberal Leaders Pelosi and Reid sited Gruber by name and his talking points to justify the plan.
- Conservatives rejected the plan siting the costs and fallacies.
- Gruber confirms that the success of the passage of the legislation hinged on Lack of Transparency and Stupidity of the American Voter who supported the legislation.

Then Pelosi just recently said she had never heard of him.

Her own website said otherwise.

Gruber got so full of himself and American taxpayer money to boot, that he could not control his arrogance and he let his true colors show. Call it the stupidity of the American Elite Liberal.

 

[Redfish]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

do a google search on the defective liberal gene. its been identified as DRD4. Its not really stupidity, its a mental disease.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

The reason?

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

/thread

 

[Saigon]

do a google search on the defective liberal gene. its been identified as DRD4. Its not really stupidity, its a mental disease.

And the four grammatical errors in your two sentences are clearly an indicator of greater intelligence, right?