Are We At The End Stage Of The Trump Presidency?

[Moonglow]

Here is a little set-up, but the crux of the article is the raid on Cohen's emails and other troves of evidence that will ultimately start to crumble the wall of secrecy surrounding the Trump crime family. So glad that Mueller is doing such a thorough investigation, and as an added bonus, Trump's attack on the FBI adds some extra incentive on the part of this law enforcement agency.

I thought of those earlier experiences this week as I began to feel a familiar clarity about what will unfold next in the Trump Presidency. There are lots of details and surprises to come, but the endgame of this Presidency seems as clear now as those of Iraq and the financial crisis did months before they unfolded. Last week, federal investigators raided the offices of Michael Cohen, the man who has been closer than anybody to Trump’s most problematic business and personal relationships. This week, we learned that Cohen has been under criminal investigation for months—his e-mails have been read, presumably his phones have been tapped, and his meetings have been monitored. Trump has long declared a red line: Robert Mueller must not investigate his businesses, and must only look at any possible collusion with Russia. That red line is now crossed and, for Trump, in the most troubling of ways. Even if he were to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and then had Mueller and his investigation put on ice, and even if—as is disturbingly possible—Congress did nothing, the Cohen prosecution would continue. Even if Trump pardons Cohen, the information the Feds have on him can become the basis for charges against others in the Trump Organization.

Michael Cohen and the End Stage of the Trump Presidency | The New Yorker

Don't hold yer breathe too long...

 

[deltex1]

Some stupid bitch on MTP just said Assad remains a threat because he has barrel bombs.

 

[dblack]

You lost over a year ago and are still major butt-hurt.

You'd love to see Trump's presidency fail....because you really don't give a fuck about America.

We all lost when he was nominated. Republicans knew it then, and they know it now. But ever since the election they've been smiling as hard as they can, trying to convince themselves it's all going to be ok. It's not ok. He's every bit the train wreck we expected and he's taking the party down with him.

 

[odanny]

What we know is that Mueller is almost ready to release an initial set of recommendations having to do with Obstruction of Justice charges.

Like all investigations having to do with organized crime syndicates, they start at the bottom and work their way up, flipping people in exchange for plea deals and reduced sentences if they co-operate w/the investigation.

Beyond that, the financial crimes would be the next big thing, as a few states have already gotten the ball rolling on that stuff.

On the biggest charge of Conspiracy Against the United States, which is legalese for "collusion", it'll be interesting to see if Mueller has the specific evidence for it, or if it will remain circumstantial.

A refresher on collusion: Remember how this started? If you guessed "at the Republican convention", you'd be right. Republican bigwigs independently formulated their party's platform, sent it to the Trump campaign for their input, and the Trump camp rubber-stamped the entire platform word for word EXCEPT one detail: The U.S. will no longer be obliged to help Ukraine in the event of a Russian incursion.

Naturally, the obvious question arose: Why did the Trump camp make a move favorable to Russia in their party's platform, and what did they get for giving Russia that concession?

As those two questions were asked, Trump and his ENTIRE circle began denying ever having met with any Russians EVER, even though NO ONE had asked that yet.

Over the course of the last 20 months, we've gone from "none of us EVER met w/Russians EVER" to proof of several dozen meetings between Trump's closest lackeys and Putin's closest lackeys. We have Trump on camera asking Russia to attack their opponent. We know from the Trump Tower meeting that Don Jr's email about what that meeting was really about is as close as anything that's been released to the public that rubs right up against that big conspiracy charge.

If they have another email here and a piece of a phone conversation there from one side and the other, Mueller will go for the big charge, and I think that only then will we really sense the ending of the Trump presidency.

I don't see how Trump could survive a charge that grave. On the other hand, if all the other stuff sticks but there isn't enough of a smoking gun for collusion and Trump tries to weather it, I think public exhaustion with him could end up being the thing that does him in. He runs an admittedly chaotic administration. The news is big and crazy like every day. And between the money laundering stuff and the porn stars and the obstruction of justice, I could see the public wanting in 2020 to go back to a default setting of having a more boring, normal administration. I do see Trump as a one-termer.

That is fascinating insight, thanks so much for that information.

 

[deltex1]

You're foolish if you imagined they would just lay down and take their lumps.

I have no idea what that means. What I actually said was that the Regressive Left is being handed exactly what they wanted.
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It's fairly easy to understand radicalism spawns inversely proportional radicalism Mac

We've a rather stark history of doing so, if one can view our political system objectively

In fact, if one can distance themselves from the partisan baloney far enough , it appears all the same party

The $$$ party, best Congress $$$ can buy

The illusion of Dem/Rep and or Right/Left is a grand facade to keep us from the reality that we don't have choices when we vote, as well as a kicking post for those in charge to insist they can't do their job(s)

~S~

Yep, hence the first line of my sig.

Seems to me that one key in avoiding radicalism is not to be radical yourself. Trump came in as the ultimate bull in the china shop, and that's what he's getting in return.

He and his followers are making this easy for the other side. This is one of the symptoms of obedient commitment to an ideology: Its followers are blind to its weak spots.
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What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

 

[sparky]

The Tweetenator just can't leave it along this morning , he's loosin' it , and loosin' it publicly

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) | Twitter

~S~

 

[sparky]

You're foolish if you imagined they would just lay down and take their lumps.

I have no idea what that means. What I actually said was that the Regressive Left is being handed exactly what they wanted.
.

It's fairly easy to understand radicalism spawns inversely proportional radicalism Mac

We've a rather stark history of doing so, if one can view our political system objectively

In fact, if one can distance themselves from the partisan baloney far enough , it appears all the same party

The $$$ party, best Congress $$$ can buy

The illusion of Dem/Rep and or Right/Left is a grand facade to keep us from the reality that we don't have choices when we vote, as well as a kicking post for those in charge to insist they can't do their job(s)

~S~

Yep, hence the first line of my sig.

Seems to me that one key in avoiding radicalism is not to be radical yourself. Trump came in as the ultimate bull in the china shop, and that's what he's getting in return.

He and his followers are making this easy for the other side. This is one of the symptoms of obedient commitment to an ideology: Its followers are blind to its weak spots.
.

What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

ego....

~S~

 

[Mac1958]

What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

Self-promotion and ego gratification, and talk radio convinced many Republicans that he's what the country needed.
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[dblack]

You're foolish if you imagined they would just lay down and take their lumps.

I have no idea what that means. What I actually said was that the Regressive Left is being handed exactly what they wanted.
.

It's fairly easy to understand radicalism spawns inversely proportional radicalism Mac

We've a rather stark history of doing so, if one can view our political system objectively

In fact, if one can distance themselves from the partisan baloney far enough , it appears all the same party

The $$$ party, best Congress $$$ can buy

The illusion of Dem/Rep and or Right/Left is a grand facade to keep us from the reality that we don't have choices when we vote, as well as a kicking post for those in charge to insist they can't do their job(s)

~S~

Yep, hence the first line of my sig.

Seems to me that one key in avoiding radicalism is not to be radical yourself. Trump came in as the ultimate bull in the china shop, and that's what he's getting in return.

He and his followers are making this easy for the other side. This is one of the symptoms of obedient commitment to an ideology: Its followers are blind to its weak spots.
.

What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

"Make the sale."

 

[oreo]

We know that the Left Wingers are fanatical knuttjobs, but their attacks on Trump are actually an attack on our democracy. They are at the dangerous stage of fanatical knuttjobs.

You might want to scroll back to post # 37 on this thread & watch the FOX NEWS video's. If you still remember how to read, you might want to use that skill for a change.

Ignorance & denial is not going to save Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

Our "system" didn't fail...the system was jobbed by Hillary Clinton and her minions over at the DNC! She cheated. Why that would shock anyone with her history bemuses me.

Our system put a mentally unstable man in the White House.

Yes, it failed miserably, and all your misogyny against Mrs. Clinton won't change that.

 

[deltex1]

I see you all know Trump has no political ldeology. His ideology is the business of making America number one again. That's what a leader does. That's what Mrs Obama avoided at all cost.

 

[oreo]

What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

Self-promotion and ego gratification, and talk radio convinced many Republicans that he's what the country needed.
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Soooo TRUE:

Republicans are so accustomed to sucking information out of the teeeets of these people, I doubt they would spend the next 20 minutes reading an article on how they've been manipulated. It's a lot easier to turn on the radio or T.V than actually READ.
Donald Trump broke the conservative media

It is not entirely true that Trump engineered a “hostile takeover” of the GOP, provided that the party is defined more broadly than elected officials and party insiders. As Conor Friedersdorf wrote last year in the Atlantic: “the elements of the party that sent pro-Trump cues to primary voters—Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Rudy Guiliani, Michael Flynn, Jeff Sessions, Rick Scott, Jan Brewer, Joe Arpaio, Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Breitbart.com, the Drudge report & New York Post are simply more powerful, relative to National Review, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and other ‘Trump is unacceptable’ forces, than previously thought.”

The GOP That Failed

FOX NEWS played a big hand in it too.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Stormy Daniels’ lawyer drops a bomb on Michael Cohen — and tells CNN his cigar buddies have ‘Russian ties’

 

[Mac1958]

What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

Self-promotion and ego gratification, and talk radio convinced many Republicans that he's what the country needed.
.

Soooo TRUE:

Right wingers are so used sucking information out of the teeeets of these people, I doubt they would spend the next 20 minutes reading an article on how they have been manipulated. It's a lot easier to turn on the radio or T.V than actually READ.
Donald Trump broke the conservative media

It is not entirely true that Trump engineered a “hostile takeover” of the GOP, provided that the party is defined more broadly than elected officials and party insiders. As Conor Friedersdorf wrote last year in the Atlantic: “the elements of the party that sent pro-Trump cues to primary voters—Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Rudy Guiliani, Michael Flynn, Jeff Sessions, Rick Scott, Jan Brewer, Joe Arpaio, Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Breitbart.com, the Drudge report & New York Post are simply more powerful, relative to National Review, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and other ‘Trump is unacceptable’ forces, than previously thought.”

The GOP That Failed

Just like professional wrestling, a lot of people thought Talk Radio was real.

In both cases, it was actually about ratings, not reality.
.

 

[deltex1]

What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

Self-promotion and ego gratification, and talk radio convinced many Republicans that he's what the country needed.
.

Soooo TRUE:

Right wingers are so used sucking information out of the teeeets of these people, I doubt they would spend the next 20 minutes reading an article on how they've been manipulated. It's a lot easier to turn on the radio or T.V than actually READ.
Donald Trump broke the conservative media

It is not entirely true that Trump engineered a “hostile takeover” of the GOP, provided that the party is defined more broadly than elected officials and party insiders. As Conor Friedersdorf wrote last year in the Atlantic: “the elements of the party that sent pro-Trump cues to primary voters—Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Rudy Guiliani, Michael Flynn, Jeff Sessions, Rick Scott, Jan Brewer, Joe Arpaio, Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Breitbart.com, the Drudge report & New York Post are simply more powerful, relative to National Review, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and other ‘Trump is unacceptable’ forces, than previously thought.”

The GOP That Failed

FOX NEWS played a big hand in it too.

We look forward to reading the IG report. GFY.

 

[oreo]

What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

Self-promotion and ego gratification, and talk radio convinced many Republicans that he's what the country needed.
.

Soooo TRUE:

Right wingers are so used sucking information out of the teeeets of these people, I doubt they would spend the next 20 minutes reading an article on how they have been manipulated. It's a lot easier to turn on the radio or T.V than actually READ.
Donald Trump broke the conservative media

It is not entirely true that Trump engineered a “hostile takeover” of the GOP, provided that the party is defined more broadly than elected officials and party insiders. As Conor Friedersdorf wrote last year in the Atlantic: “the elements of the party that sent pro-Trump cues to primary voters—Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Rudy Guiliani, Michael Flynn, Jeff Sessions, Rick Scott, Jan Brewer, Joe Arpaio, Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Breitbart.com, the Drudge report & New York Post are simply more powerful, relative to National Review, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and other ‘Trump is unacceptable’ forces, than previously thought.”

The GOP That Failed

Just like professional wrestling, a lot of people thought Talk Radio was real.

In both cases, it was actually about ratings, not reality.
.

When rating's and money become the priority--someone like Donald Trump becomes POTUS. Talk radio and programs on FOX like Sean Hannity only result in one thing.

1. A creation of an illusion to the listener that they are qualified & knowledgeable enough to make educated political decisions. (often resulting in an illusion that they have superior political knowledge over others.)

A great article on this phenomena
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters' brains

 

[Mac1958]

What exactly is Trumps political ideology?

Self-promotion and ego gratification, and talk radio convinced many Republicans that he's what the country needed.
.

Soooo TRUE:

Right wingers are so used sucking information out of the teeeets of these people, I doubt they would spend the next 20 minutes reading an article on how they have been manipulated. It's a lot easier to turn on the radio or T.V than actually READ.
Donald Trump broke the conservative media

It is not entirely true that Trump engineered a “hostile takeover” of the GOP, provided that the party is defined more broadly than elected officials and party insiders. As Conor Friedersdorf wrote last year in the Atlantic: “the elements of the party that sent pro-Trump cues to primary voters—Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Rudy Guiliani, Michael Flynn, Jeff Sessions, Rick Scott, Jan Brewer, Joe Arpaio, Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Breitbart.com, the Drudge report & New York Post are simply more powerful, relative to National Review, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and other ‘Trump is unacceptable’ forces, than previously thought.”

The GOP That Failed

Just like professional wrestling, a lot of people thought Talk Radio was real.

In both cases, it was actually about ratings, not reality.
.

When rating's and money become the priority--someone like Donald Trump becomes POTUS.

Well, I look at him as a symptom as much as anything else.
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[bripat9643]

Our "system" didn't fail...the system was jobbed by Hillary Clinton and her minions over at the DNC! She cheated. Why that would shock anyone with her history bemuses me.

Our system put a mentally unstable man in the White House.

Yes, it failed miserably, and all your misogyny against Mrs. Clinton won't change that.

Yeah, but Clinton isn't president anymore.

 

[The Original Tree]

How many accounts is this Moron Troll allowed to create?

There will be criminal inditements fool, of McCabe, Comey, Lynch, Rice, and The IG report goes all the way to the very top. That’s right Yo Momma, Obama Bin Lying.

Off to The IGNORE woodshed for you bitch.