Are We Supposed To Harden Walmarts and Grocery Stores, Too?

[XponentialChaos]

Two things we know stop these types of incidents, a secure campus and an immediate armed response. Nothing you propose can be shown to be effective at all.

Fine with me. Why didn't that happen in Texas?

I await your excuses.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

No such data exists either way you moron.

We have thousands of incidents where kids still get handguns into schools proving age restrictions don't stop them from doing so.

Each of those incidents is a data point.

No facts or data support your claims that raising the age will have any positive impact.

 

[hadit]

Kinda like we did with hand guns?

And how effective has that been?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Kinda like we did with hand guns?

Kids still get into schools with handguns regularly so you may want to rethink this one.

 

[XponentialChaos]

We have thousands of incidents where kids still get handguns into schools proving age restrictions don't stop them from doing so.

Still using your bad logic. That's unfortunate. You're just not smart. It's not your fault.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Fine with me. Why didn't that happen in Texas?

I await your excuses.

Because a door was left unlocked and there was no immediate armed response in the building when he entered.

 

[XponentialChaos]

And how effective has that been?

It's impossible to know how many such incidents were prevented because of that.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Still using your bad logic. That's unfortunate. You're just not smart. It's not your fault.

You don't seem to understand what logic is.

We know age restrictions on handgun purchases have not prevented kids from getting handguns and getting them into schools.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Kids still get into schools with handguns regularly so you may want to rethink this one.

I've already explained the reasoning for you but you weren't smart enough to understand it.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

It's impossible to know how many such incidents were prevented because of that.

Then you can't possibly show how your restrictions will be of any benefit.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

I've already explained the reasoning for you but you weren't smart enough to understand it.

You haven't explained anything because there are no facts supporting your position.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Because a door was left unlocked and there was no immediate armed response in the building when he entered.

So you have excuses. Like I said.

 

[rightwinger]

Why do shooters always seem to pick places that openly advertise guns are not allowed?

Why do you obsess over Gun Free Zones?

They were never meant to mean it was impossible to bring a gun. What it means is they do not want people carrying guns that could be tempted to use them

Do you want the guy at a football game who roots for the other team and is pissed at you for mocking his team to have a gun?

Do you want some drunk at a bar to have a gun?

Does a teacher who is telling a parent that their child is failing want that parent carrying a gun?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Then you can't possibly show how your restrictions will be of any benefit.

That's what I said, you fucking moron.

Are you all caught up now? Jesus you're stupid.

 

[XponentialChaos]

You haven't explained anything because there are no facts supporting your position.

I have explained it. You just weren't smart enough to understand.

 

[hadit]

It's impossible to know how many such incidents were prevented because of that.

Actually, it IS possible to look at the number of people harmed by handguns before and after any such ban. Likewise, any ban on so-called "assault rifles", aka big black scary looking guns.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Actually, it IS possible to look at the number of people harmed by handguns before and after any such ban. Likewise, any ban on so-called "assault rifles", aka big black scary looking guns.

Post the data then. I'll take my best shot with it but there are other factors that would need to be factored in.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

That's what I said, you fucking moron.

Are you all caught up now? Jesus you're stupid.

Stupid is ranting to raise the age because you think it might reduce to some unknown degree these incidents when the evidence we have shows it won't.

No student can legally walk into a school with a firearm and yet it still happens with alarming frequency in spite of the age restrictions.

Unless and until you can show some measurable benefit the idea isn't even worth entertaining.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Post the data then. I'll take my best shot with it but there are other factors that would need to be factored in.

List them.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Stupid is ranting to raise the age because you think it might reduce to some unknown degree these incidents when the evidence we have shows it won't.

No student can legally walk into a school with a firearm and yet it still happens with alarming frequency in spite of the age restrictions.

Unless and until you can show some measurable benefit the idea isn't even worth entertaining.

Explain that to Florida. They disagree with your stupid opinion.