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That is another thing...the Christian God is described s "all merciful" yet he plans to torture his creatures for eternity in hell...what kind of Psycho does that ?
Be Here and Now
I used to wonder why the men who wrote the bible chose to create a god who is so mean and vengeful. Then I realized that men crated god in their image.
I am not troubled I am phat...... I am doing quite well...I am not scared ...I am grateful to not have to spend eternity with Christians......No can do.......Does it ever trouble you that your religion (being your own god) cannot save you and that when you leave this earth you will be in hell for all eternity because you rejected the offer of repentance and salvation through Jesus Christ? It should. Because hell has no exits. After you die, there is no hope of repentance. You will have lost the opportunity and regret it forever. Think about that today. Because today is all you have. Tomorrow is no guarantee, you know.My Religion says I should be stoned at 4 20......its 420 somewhere .......Kim Davis' religion says that she should be stoned for adultery.
Heaven and hell, god and satan are human and fictional constructs but no way would I want to spend eternity with thumpers like Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, Sara Palin and now, Kim Davis. They are ugly, petty and mean spirited people who spread hate and intolerance while pretending to follow the teachings of Jesus.
Here is another thing...God created me in a finite state...best I can hope so is a life span of a hundred years ...but if I do something wrong while in my finite state I will be punished for all Eternity...what kind of Insanity is that...the Gods must be Crazy........
Render to Caesar what is his, and render to God what is His.
It is written:
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.
13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
1 John 2 - 1 - 26
King James Version (KJV)
King James was a homo.Render to Caesar what is his, and render to God what is His.
It is written:
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.
13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
1 John 2 - 1 - 26
King James Version (KJV)
Wow! You're living in "yesteryear"!In good conscience, should the Christian clerks responsible for issuing her 2nd, then 3rd, then 4th marriage license, NOT ISSUED her the licenses all those times? Would that have been OK with Kim for them to do that to her, since she was breaking god's law and committing adultery and having her 2nd, third and fourth husbands commit adultery by marrying her?Are you supporting Kim Davis for her faith and for defending the laws of Kentucky? For any who are not aware of who Kim Davis is, she is the clerk who was put in jail for refusing to issue a marriage license to a same sex couple. In the State of Kentucky marriage is between a man and a woman. Are you supporting Kim Davis for standing up for her faith in Jesus Christ? Yes or no?
Not in her role as a government official, no. Especially not when doing so directly conflicts with laws she's sworn to uphold.
She is a Christian first and she is putting God's Word first. As she should. She is under no obligation to participate in the issuance of a same sex marriage license which is against the laws of God, against her faith in God and interferes with her liberty to be a Christian in all good conscience.
See, I don't think it is any of the govt clerk's business on how many times she has committed adultery in God's Law...the sin is between her and God....
And if you say she was not 'saved' until recently...or did not become a Christian until recently so all those adulterous marriages don't count because she was not a Christian then....,
then why does it matter now, with other couples who may not be Christians...
Why did she get her chance to Fall from God, and commit adultery? Free will I suppose?
some times it takes sin before a person can wake up, and believe in God....
why not allow others the same opportunity she got dwelling in sin ...for God to wake them up?
If this were yesteryear, she would have been dead after the 2nd marriage, killed through stoning and would not have had the chance to deny couples marriage licenses... good that times have changed, eh?
She needs to resign, if she believes God has given her the duty to deny these licenses, in good conscience, this is what she should do...or allow others in the office to do their job.
Please, only one bat-shit crazy person per thread. And we already have Jere. Thanks.Render to Caesar what is his, and render to God what is His.
yep, sure, whatever, that's what I said....Wow! You're living in "yesteryear"!In good conscience, should the Christian clerks responsible for issuing her 2nd, then 3rd, then 4th marriage license, NOT ISSUED her the licenses all those times? Would that have been OK with Kim for them to do that to her, since she was breaking god's law and committing adultery and having her 2nd, third and fourth husbands commit adultery by marrying her?Are you supporting Kim Davis for her faith and for defending the laws of Kentucky? For any who are not aware of who Kim Davis is, she is the clerk who was put in jail for refusing to issue a marriage license to a same sex couple. In the State of Kentucky marriage is between a man and a woman. Are you supporting Kim Davis for standing up for her faith in Jesus Christ? Yes or no?
Not in her role as a government official, no. Especially not when doing so directly conflicts with laws she's sworn to uphold.
She is a Christian first and she is putting God's Word first. As she should. She is under no obligation to participate in the issuance of a same sex marriage license which is against the laws of God, against her faith in God and interferes with her liberty to be a Christian in all good conscience.
See, I don't think it is any of the govt clerk's business on how many times she has committed adultery in God's Law...the sin is between her and God....
And if you say she was not 'saved' until recently...or did not become a Christian until recently so all those adulterous marriages don't count because she was not a Christian then....,
then why does it matter now, with other couples who may not be Christians...
Why did she get her chance to Fall from God, and commit adultery? Free will I suppose?
some times it takes sin before a person can wake up, and believe in God....
why not allow others the same opportunity she got dwelling in sin ...for God to wake them up?
If this were yesteryear, she would have been dead after the 2nd marriage, killed through stoning and would not have had the chance to deny couples marriage licenses... good that times have changed, eh?
She needs to resign, if she believes God has given her the duty to deny these licenses, in good conscience, this is what she should do...or allow others in the office to do their job.
Here is another thing...God created me in a finite state...best I can hope so is a life span of a hundred years ...but if I do something wrong while in my finite state I will be punished for all Eternity...what kind of Insanity is that...the Gods must be Crazy........
No, He didn't. He created your spirit to live eternally. Your present body will go in the ground when your life here is finished and your spirit and soul will go on to live eternally. You will have a body whichever place you choose to spend eternity. You will have a body that will suffer unspeakable torments in hell or if you choose heaven you will have a new glorified body there as well.
It is written:
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Hebrews 9:27
So you see, Tyrone, that the decision is yours where you shall spend eternity. If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and call upon Him you shall be saved.
Citing the Bible is totally ineffective...I do not believe in the Bible as being my guide through life ..child please ... I am familiar with the Bible the dogma the tenets but I mean its not my mentor ... I am not on board that train...Here is another thing...God created me in a finite state...best I can hope so is a life span of a hundred years ...but if I do something wrong while in my finite state I will be punished for all Eternity...what kind of Insanity is that...the Gods must be Crazy........
No, He didn't. He created your spirit to live eternally. Your present body will go in the ground when your life here is finished and your spirit and soul will go on to live eternally. You will have a body whichever place you choose to spend eternity. You will have a body that will suffer unspeakable torments in hell or if you choose heaven you will have a new glorified body there as well.
It is written:
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Hebrews 9:27
So you see, Tyrone, that the decision is yours where you shall spend eternity. If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and call upon Him you shall be saved.
Here it is written, Tyrone,
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:9,10
King James Version (KJV)
So it is with your heart that you believe unto righteousness and with your mouth your confession is made unto salvation.
So what do you do if you are having trouble believing? Ask the LORD to help you, Tyrone. There was a man who needed help from the LORD and he said, Lord! I believe, help my unbelief! He desired to believe but found that he was suffering from unbelief. Who is the author of unbelief? Satan. He seeks to harden your heart through the deceitfulness of sin, he seeks to turn your heart away from God, speaking lies to you that God does not love you, that God does not care for you - and it is all a lie! Why does Satan do this? Because he has lost his opportunity for heaven. He is doomed and he knows it. What can he do to attack God? To harm God? He can do his best to deceive God's highest creation, His most loved creation, mankind! If he can deceive you and sidetrack you away from God, away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ, away from the truth, he can succeed in taking you to hell. You do not want this. There is a place in you that desires God and that is for God alone. Think about that, Tyrone. The Creator of heaven and earth, the creator of the universe loves you and desires to have a relationship with you. Your past sins he is ready and willing to forgive as if they never happened. Men may remind you of the sins Jesus has forgiven you of but God never will and neither will those who love God. God cares for you. So much so that He sent His only begotten Son to shed His own blood and die on a cross at Calvary in order to redeem you and give you His Own Son's righteousness! What have you to lose by coming to Jesus Christ. The Scriptures are clear if God be for you, who can be against you? Satan is the accuser of the brethren and those who serve Satan are willing to be used by him. They let Satan use their tongues. Do not listen to such people. Give yourself to Jesus Christ and believe on Him today.
King James was a bone smuggler.Here is another thing...God created me in a finite state...best I can hope so is a life span of a hundred years ...but if I do something wrong while in my finite state I will be punished for all Eternity...what kind of Insanity is that...the Gods must be Crazy........
No, He didn't. He created your spirit to live eternally. Your present body will go in the ground when your life here is finished and your spirit and soul will go on to live eternally. You will have a body whichever place you choose to spend eternity. You will have a body that will suffer unspeakable torments in hell or if you choose heaven you will have a new glorified body there as well.
It is written:
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Hebrews 9:27
So you see, Tyrone, that the decision is yours where you shall spend eternity. If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and call upon Him you shall be saved.
Here it is written, Tyrone,
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:9,10
King James Version (KJV)
So it is with your heart that you believe unto righteousness and with your mouth your confession is made unto salvation.
So what do you do if you are having trouble believing? Ask the LORD to help you, Tyrone. There was a man who needed help from the LORD did. He said, Lord! I believe, help my unbelief! He desired to believe but found that he was suffering from unbelief.
Who is the author of unbelief? Satan. He seeks to harden your heart through the deceitfulness of sin, he seeks to turn your heart away from God, speaking lies to you that God does not love you, that God does not care for you - and it is all a lie! Why does Satan do this? Because he has lost his opportunity for heaven. He is doomed and he knows it. What can he do to attack God? To harm God? He can do his best to deceive God's highest creation, His most loved creation, mankind!
If he can deceive you and sidetrack you away from God, away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ, away from the truth, he can succeed in taking you to hell. You do not want this. There is a place in you that desires God and that is for God alone. Think about that, Tyrone. The Creator of heaven and earth, the creator of the universe loves you and desires to have a relationship with you. Your past sins he is ready and willing to forgive as if they never happened.
Men may remind you of the sins Jesus has forgiven you of but God never will and neither will those who love God. God cares for you. So much so that He sent His only begotten Son to shed His own blood and die on a cross at Calvary in order to redeem you and give you His Own Son's righteousness!
What have you to lose by coming to Jesus Christ? The Scriptures are clear if God be for you, who can be against you? Satan is the accuser of the brethren and those who serve Satan are willing to be used by him. They let Satan use their tongues. Do not listen to such people. Give yourself to Jesus Christ and believe on Him today. God loves you. God loves you, Tyrone.
Citing the Bible is totally ineffective...I do not believe in the Bible as being my guide through life ..child please ... I am familiar with the Bible the dogma the tenets but I mean its not my mentor ... I am not on board that train...Here is another thing...God created me in a finite state...best I can hope so is a life span of a hundred years ...but if I do something wrong while in my finite state I will be punished for all Eternity...what kind of Insanity is that...the Gods must be Crazy........
No, He didn't. He created your spirit to live eternally. Your present body will go in the ground when your life here is finished and your spirit and soul will go on to live eternally. You will have a body whichever place you choose to spend eternity. You will have a body that will suffer unspeakable torments in hell or if you choose heaven you will have a new glorified body there as well.
It is written:
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Hebrews 9:27
So you see, Tyrone, that the decision is yours where you shall spend eternity. If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and call upon Him you shall be saved.
Here it is written, Tyrone,
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:9,10
King James Version (KJV)
So it is with your heart that you believe unto righteousness and with your mouth your confession is made unto salvation.
So what do you do if you are having trouble believing? Ask the LORD to help you, Tyrone. There was a man who needed help from the LORD and he said, Lord! I believe, help my unbelief! He desired to believe but found that he was suffering from unbelief. Who is the author of unbelief? Satan. He seeks to harden your heart through the deceitfulness of sin, he seeks to turn your heart away from God, speaking lies to you that God does not love you, that God does not care for you - and it is all a lie! Why does Satan do this? Because he has lost his opportunity for heaven. He is doomed and he knows it. What can he do to attack God? To harm God? He can do his best to deceive God's highest creation, His most loved creation, mankind! If he can deceive you and sidetrack you away from God, away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ, away from the truth, he can succeed in taking you to hell. You do not want this. There is a place in you that desires God and that is for God alone. Think about that, Tyrone. The Creator of heaven and earth, the creator of the universe loves you and desires to have a relationship with you. Your past sins he is ready and willing to forgive as if they never happened. Men may remind you of the sins Jesus has forgiven you of but God never will and neither will those who love God. God cares for you. So much so that He sent His only begotten Son to shed His own blood and die on a cross at Calvary in order to redeem you and give you His Own Son's righteousness! What have you to lose by coming to Jesus Christ. The Scriptures are clear if God be for you, who can be against you? Satan is the accuser of the brethren and those who serve Satan are willing to be used by him. They let Satan use their tongues. Do not listen to such people. Give yourself to Jesus Christ and believe on Him today.
Kim Davis is guilty of persecuting homosexuals. She deserves what she's getting.
Right! What part of her faith says she has 5o work there?
How much support would she get if she was elected and denied gun licenses because it went against her faith? Lmao
Kim Davis is guilty of persecuting homosexuals. She deserves what she's getting.
Right! What part of her faith says she has 5o work there?
How much support would she get if she was elected and denied gun licenses because it went against her faith? Lmao
If she's so religious why is she working for the state?
Can't pick and choose what laws we follow, either we follow them all, or the system of laws falls apart. If she has an objection to gays marrying, quit. That'd be the pro-faith thing to fo. Not become a hypocrite working for the state which allows gays to marry then not perform her duty.
I support her also but......Separation of state and church she should not be working in a government position.....If my religion was against going to war, I would become a conscientious objector and not go to war. If i was against abortions, I would not work for an abortion clinic. If I was against euthanize cats and dogs, I would not go to work for the dog kennel or Humane Society,etc. If doing the job she was hired to do is against her religious belief, she need to resign asap.I support Kim Davis 100% for standing up for her faith in Christ and for standing up for the Word of God.
I support her also but......Separation of state and church she should not be working in a government position.....If my religion was against going to war, I would become a conscientious objector and not go to war. If i was against abortions, I would not work for an abortion clinic. If I was against euthanize cats and dogs, I would not go to work for the dog kennel or Humane Society,etc. If doing the job she was hired to do is against her religious belief, she need to resign asap.I support Kim Davis 100% for standing up for her faith in Christ and for standing up for the Word of God.
Funny thing that breaking the law is considered "defending your faith". I heard Huckmadinajad say that the left supports laws they like...then proceeded to defend this lady breaking the law. Ironic as hell
What's next? Arresting Pastors who refuse to marry same sex couples? Arresting Doctors who refuse to perform abortions on demand?
Funny thing that breaking the law is considered "defending your faith". I heard Huckmadinajad say that the left supports laws they like...then proceeded to defend this lady breaking the law. Ironic as hell
What's next? Arresting Pastors who refuse to marry same sex couples? Arresting Doctors who refuse to perform abortions on demand?
Pastors have a choice as does doctors. It is not the job of doctors to perform abortions or pastors to perform marriages. We all have the freedom of choice and that is not changing any time soon. She has a job to do and she refuse to do it then she should resign..asap Simple as that. Do not force your faith on others. Like radical Islam so is radical Christianity. Neither has a place in a democratic and civilized nation.
