Arizona going to Biden? (Bad news for Trump in latest polls)

[busybee01]

Obama doesn't deserve any credit. History shows that the economy recovers on its own without any government intervention.

Haha, so painfully stupid. Yes, always at the exact same rate, too. Because obama tourettes syndrome. Shut up dummy.

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record, dumbass.

The growth rate under Trump has been no faster than under Obama. Neither Obama or Trump are responsible for what growth there has been.

Obama had more people on welfare after 8 years then when he started lol

Obama has been more honest.

I don't think so.

Hunger in this country has not gone down under Trump.

Really? How do you arrive at the conclusion when unemployment has been lower under Trump?

Republicans have made it more difficult for people who need to get help. Florida is a prime example. Even Republicans concede the unemployment system in Florida was designed NOT to give unemployed people unemployment benefits.

Prove it.

Obama was more honest than Republicans. Dogshit Trump supporters wll never admit it.

The unemployment rate was 4.7% when Trump took office. That was hardly daunting.

“It’s a shit sandwich, and it was designed that way by Scott,” the unnamed adviser told Politico. “It wasn’t about saving money. It was about making it harder for people to get benefits or keep benefits so that the unemployment numbers were low to give the governor something to brag about.”

The adviser added: “Everyone we talk to in that office when we ask them what happened tells us: ‘The system was designed to fail.’ That’s not a problem when unemployment is 2.8 percent, but it’s a problem now.”

Florida GOP Reportedly Rigged Jobless Site To Block Applicants

"The system was designed to fail," charged an adviser for GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis, who blamed former Republican governor Rick Scott for the mess.

www.huffpost.com

 

[busybee01]

Obama doesn't deserve any credit. History shows that the economy recovers on its own without any government intervention.

Haha, so painfully stupid. Yes, always at the exact same rate, too. Because obama tourettes syndrome. Shut up dummy.

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record, dumbass.

The growth rate under Trump has been no faster than under Obama. Neither Obama or Trump are responsible for what growth there has been.

Obama had more people on welfare after 8 years then when he started lol

Obama has been more honest. Hunger in this country has not gone down under Trump. Republicans have made it more difficult for people who need to get help. Florida is a prime example. Even Republicans concede the unemployment system in Florida was designed NOT to give unemployed people unemployment benefits.

All those people dropping off SNAP was just a coincidence?

It was because Republicans made it harder to get food stamps. Not because they didn't need them.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Obama doesn't deserve any credit. History shows that the economy recovers on its own without any government intervention.

Haha, so painfully stupid. Yes, always at the exact same rate, too. Because obama tourettes syndrome. Shut up dummy.

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record, dumbass.

The growth rate under Trump has been no faster than under Obama. Neither Obama or Trump are responsible for what growth there has been.

Obama had more people on welfare after 8 years then when he started lol

Obama has been more honest. Hunger in this country has not gone down under Trump. Republicans have made it more difficult for people who need to get help. Florida is a prime example. Even Republicans concede the unemployment system in Florida was designed NOT to give unemployed people unemployment benefits.

All those people dropping off SNAP was just a coincidence?

It was because Republicans made it harder to get food stamps. Not because they didn't need them.

Bullshit! Why do you lie? Isn't it embarrassing getting it shoved up your ass sideways every time you try some stupid shit?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump.

The polls said Hillary was competitive in Arizona too...and Georgia...and Michigan...and Pennsylvania...and Florida.

How'd that work out for ya?

The polls are reported to manipulate people...that's what the trash media does. "Oh looky...the news says the guy 10 sandwiches short of a picnic is winning in Arizona...they must really think we're a bunch of dipshits to fall for the old 'get on the winning team' routine".

And they do think you're all dipshits that they can control like puppets on a string. Tell them to fuck off and quit watching.

Trump won Arizona by 3 1/2 percent after Romney and McCain won by 9 percent.

Those aren’t polls....those are votes

Republicans lost their long held Senate seat in 2018 , that wasn’t a poll either

Trump lost many close states too. We discussed this before. Do you have dementia?

That is not true. Of the states that went to each candidate by less than 5 points, Trump won 8 and Clinton won 4.

States won by Trump
Michigan, 0.23% – 16
Pennsylvania, 0.72% – 20
Wisconsin, 0.77% – 10
Florida, 1.20% – 29
Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District, 2.24% – 1
Maine, 2.96% – 2
Arizona, 3.55% – 11
North Carolina, 3.66% – 15
Total: 104

States won by Clinton
New Hampshire, 0.37% – 4
Minnesota, 1.52% – 10
Nevada, 2.42% – 6
Colorado, 4.91% – 9
Total: 29

Right so 4 could go to Trump. PA and Fla are huge. Could go either way.

Not really. Democrats swept statewide races in Colorado and are likely to turn out Gardner. They have the highest percentage of voters with degrees in the country. In Nevada, Democrats swept statewide races. In Minnesota, Democrats swept 3 statewide races in 2018 with the closest being a 9 point deficit.

Michigan is likely in the Democrat column as well as Pennsylvania. The Wisconsin primary was a red flag for Republicans.

Even if what you said were to come true, that is 26 EVs and Trump STILL wins the EC.

Trump has likely lost Michigan and Pennsylvania. Wisconsin shows Republicans are in trouble. Also Arizona, Georgia and Texas are in play. I don't see any states flipping from Clinton to Trump.

Great. Should we cancel the election and just hand Biden the presidency in your opinion?

 

[okfine]

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record

Correct. And i know why. And i guarantee you do not. You are a moron who knows virtually nothing about any of this. You dont even know what a recession is.

He knows what is recessed... his buried willie.

 

[okfine]

Obama doesn't deserve any credit. History shows that the economy recovers on its own without any government intervention.

Haha, so painfully stupid. Yes, always at the exact same rate, too. Because obama tourettes syndrome. Shut up dummy.

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record, dumbass.

One of the longest continuous periods of growth on record

Till Trump ruined it

Only because Trump took over.

Obama never had his economy collapse
He saved us from the Bush collapse

ROFL! Did Obama have an worldwide epidemic to deal with?

Are you seriously trying to blame Trump for the shutdown after turds like you attacked him for not doing it soon enough?

How many shutdowns for Trump... Nearing a f'n handful if you cut off a thumb.

 

[okfine]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump.

The polls said Hillary was competitive in Arizona too...and Georgia...and Michigan...and Pennsylvania...and Florida.

How'd that work out for ya?

The polls are reported to manipulate people...that's what the trash media does. "Oh looky...the news says the guy 10 sandwiches short of a picnic is winning in Arizona...they must really think we're a bunch of dipshits to fall for the old 'get on the winning team' routine".

And they do think you're all dipshits that they can control like puppets on a string. Tell them to fuck off and quit watching.

Trump won Arizona by 3 1/2 percent after Romney and McCain won by 9 percent.

Those aren’t polls....those are votes

Republicans lost their long held Senate seat in 2018 , that wasn’t a poll either

Trump lost many close states too. We discussed this before. Do you have dementia?

That is not true. Of the states that went to each candidate by less than 5 points, Trump won 8 and Clinton won 4.

States won by Trump
Michigan, 0.23% – 16
Pennsylvania, 0.72% – 20
Wisconsin, 0.77% – 10
Florida, 1.20% – 29
Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District, 2.24% – 1
Maine, 2.96% – 2
Arizona, 3.55% – 11
North Carolina, 3.66% – 15
Total: 104

States won by Clinton
New Hampshire, 0.37% – 4
Minnesota, 1.52% – 10
Nevada, 2.42% – 6
Colorado, 4.91% – 9
Total: 29

Right so 4 could go to Trump. PA and Fla are huge. Could go either way.

Not really. Democrats swept statewide races in Colorado and are likely to turn out Gardner. They have the highest percentage of voters with degrees in the country. In Nevada, Democrats swept statewide races. In Minnesota, Democrats swept 3 statewide races in 2018 with the closest being a 9 point deficit.

Michigan is likely in the Democrat column as well as Pennsylvania. The Wisconsin primary was a red flag for Republicans.

Even if what you said were to come true, that is 26 EVs and Trump STILL wins the EC.

Trump has likely lost Michigan and Pennsylvania. Wisconsin shows Republicans are in trouble. Also Arizona, Georgia and Texas are in play. I don't see any states flipping from Clinton to Trump.

National Review video back in 2019 on how the GOP "secretly" fears a total wipeout in 2020.

Republicans Are Worried About 2020 | National Review

Cause for concern?

www.nationalreview.com

 

[westwall]

the senate needs to flip as well. i live in CT, but have been donating to a few senate races; i'm giving to susan collins' opponent in maine (sara gideon) , ms lindsey's opponent (jaime harris) in s. carolina, moscow mitch's opponent (amy mcgrath) in KY, & the bitch who took over john mccain's seat in AZ opponent (mark kelly, husband of gabby gifford)

Kelly expands lead over McSally in Arizona
By Reid Wilson - 04/15/20 06:00 AM EDT

Retired astronaut Mark Kelly leads Sen. Martha McSally (R) by 9 points in Arizona, one of the states at the heart of the battle for control of the Senate in 2020.
A new Arizona Public Opinion Pulse survey conducted by the Phoenix-based nonpartisan polling firm OH Predictive Insights shows Kelly leading McSally by a 51 percent to 42 percent margin.
The company's last survey found Kelly leading by a 7-point margin, 49 percent to 42 percent.
Kelly, a first-time candidate and the husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), leads McSally by 10 points in Maricopa County, which accounts for the vast majority of Arizona's vote. Only one candidate in recent history, former Superintendent of Public Instruction Diane Douglas (R) in 2015, has won statewide election in Arizona without carrying Maricopa County.
Kelly expands lead over McSally in Arizona

Arizona used to be a dependable Red State.
The land of Goldwater and John McCain.

It is now definitely in play for the Democrats. Arizona has already shown they do not want McSally. The Hispanic vote is growing in influence and Trump will have to fight hard to retain Arizona

Yeah, thanks to an invasion of progressive California operatives. The same thing has happened to my State. California is a plague.

 

[MarathonMike]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump. This hasn't been reported here because well, it's a conservative message board, but now you're being made aware of it.
With Michigan slipping out of Trump's hand, Arizona would be a devastating loss for Cadet Bone Spurs.

Trump is also losing Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is Biden country

You do realize Presidential Polls are about as accurate as climate change models, right?

 

[two_iron]

Get ready...

LOL, I always thought that was a dude.... well, some kind of androgynous shitstain that was born male... that was fun to watch! The misery that animal is going thru gives me a rush. THX!

 

[San Souci]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump. This hasn't been reported here because well, it's a conservative message board, but now you're being made aware of it.
With Michigan slipping out of Trump's hand, Arizona would be a devastating loss for Cadet Bone Spurs.

Trumpoholics are not conservatives. Conservatives oppose Trump. USMB is a mostly Trumper/Tea Party site.

So what you're saying is that the Tea Party created to get the country back to its conservative founding principles are not real conservatives.

There is very little conservatism in the trump republican party.

Oh really. And you would know HOW?

Well, they are definitely not fiscal conservatives. May have led the beginnings of ecologic and anti polution movement, but not conservative on that issue any more. Not conservative on viewpoint toward the Russian bear. They are willing to adopt radical change and accept/promote to achieve goals. They used to constitutional conservatives. Hard to tell if those constitutional conservatives are alive or had children that lived, if the views expressed on this board are an indication. There is nothing conservative about absolute hate for people in your own country that do not share every single viewpoint.

Who can be fiscally conservative right now? Impossible. Too much to solve. It would be political suicide. The cart has gone off the cliff.

It works for me. Fear that it is political suicide is political cowardice. Bribe your kids so they will prefer you to your wife much. Sounds like the way to go bankrupt, to me. Sooner or later credit card debt has to be dealt with or at least show progress. If on a corporate board, would you continue to extend unlimited credit to a business unit that was consistently failing to control it's capital management, loading the whole corporation with unproductive debt or not? A conservative would not let it get that far or at least would be a voice against the practice. You are the voice of the non-fiscal conservative republican party.

Perhaps these are better inform on the gerrymandering issue as applied to presidential politics.

Justices Opened Door to Gerrymander Presidential Elections - Electoral Vote Map

A recent U.S. Supreme Court decision on partisan gerrymandering opened the door to allow states to gerrymander presidential elections.

electoralvotemap.com

Stealing the White House One Gerrymander at a Time

As the saying goes, if you can't beat them, join them. Or, if it's 2013 and you're the Republican party, if you can't beat them, change the rules of the game so you can at least give yourself a shot.

www.huffpost.com

Tying Presidential Electors to Gerrymandered Congressional Districts will Sabotage Elections

Tying the distribution of electoral votes for president to the outcome of individual congressional districts would mirror problems with redistricting and partisan dysfunction into the presidential election.

www.brennancenter.org

Apparently I am not the only one concerned for the effects of gerrymandering on presidential elections.

I am more concerned with Illegals voting. Democrats always cheat.

 

[Indeependent]

Obama doesn't deserve any credit. History shows that the economy recovers on its own without any government intervention.

Haha, so painfully stupid. Yes, always at the exact same rate, too. Because obama tourettes syndrome. Shut up dummy.

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record, dumbass.

The growth rate under Trump has been no faster than under Obama. Neither Obama or Trump are responsible for what growth there has been.

Obama had more people on welfare after 8 years then when he started lol

Obama has been more honest. Hunger in this country has not gone down under Trump. Republicans have made it more difficult for people who need to get help. Florida is a prime example. Even Republicans concede the unemployment system in Florida was designed NOT to give unemployed people unemployment benefits.

All those people dropping off SNAP was just a coincidence?

It was because Republicans made it harder to get food stamps. Not because they didn't need them.

Bullshit! Why do you lie? Isn't it embarrassing getting it shoved up your ass sideways every time you try some stupid shit?

BB is isn't lying per say, Liberals really believe their own bullshit.

 

[playtime]

Obama doesn't deserve any credit. History shows that the economy recovers on its own without any government intervention.

Haha, so painfully stupid. Yes, always at the exact same rate, too. Because obama tourettes syndrome. Shut up dummy.

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record, dumbass.

because not only did obama have 8 years of W.'s fuck ups to clean out - he had 6 years of the (R) CONgress party of nooooooooooooooo to do it with.

 

[JoeB131]

Just like in 2016, trump is going to lose at least 45 states, according to early polls.

I'm going to wait til the end of the first week in November for the polls.

They have more of a chance to be correct.

Last time, Trump didn't have a record to run on... now he does.

A record that includes tens of thousands dying of a plague and 22 million people losing their jobs.

 

[JoeB131]

Great. Should we cancel the election and just hand Biden the presidency in your opinion?

Works for me.

The promptly throw the cuffs on Trump and his entire family.

 

[playtime]

That struck a nerve.

Haha, is that what you tell yourself, all your life, when people mock you? Everyone has their coping mechanism i guess....

it's like when they use the term 'triggered' ... if mocking them or giving undisputed facts that they can't refudiate, then ya - i guess 'triggered' would be the word to use.

 

[playtime]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump. This hasn't been reported here because well, it's a conservative message board, but now you're being made aware of it.
With Michigan slipping out of Trump's hand, Arizona would be a devastating loss for Cadet Bone Spurs.

Trumpoholics are not conservatives. Conservatives oppose Trump. USMB is a mostly Trumper/Tea Party site.

So what you're saying is that the Tea Party created to get the country back to its conservative founding principles are not real conservatives.

There is very little conservatism in the trump republican party.

Oh really. And you would know HOW?

Well, they are definitely not fiscal conservatives. May have led the beginnings of ecologic and anti polution movement, but not conservative on that issue any more. Not conservative on viewpoint toward the Russian bear. They are willing to adopt radical change and accept/promote to achieve goals. They used to constitutional conservatives. Hard to tell if those constitutional conservatives are alive or had children that lived, if the views expressed on this board are an indication. There is nothing conservative about absolute hate for people in your own country that do not share every single viewpoint.

Who can be fiscally conservative right now? Impossible. Too much to solve. It would be political suicide. The cart has gone off the cliff.

It works for me. Fear that it is political suicide is political cowardice. Bribe your kids so they will prefer you to your wife much. Sounds like the way to go bankrupt, to me. Sooner or later credit card debt has to be dealt with or at least show progress. If on a corporate board, would you continue to extend unlimited credit to a business unit that was consistently failing to control it's capital management, loading the whole corporation with unproductive debt or not? A conservative would not let it get that far or at least would be a voice against the practice. You are the voice of the non-fiscal conservative republican party.

Perhaps these are better inform on the gerrymandering issue as applied to presidential politics.

Justices Opened Door to Gerrymander Presidential Elections - Electoral Vote Map

A recent U.S. Supreme Court decision on partisan gerrymandering opened the door to allow states to gerrymander presidential elections.

electoralvotemap.com

Stealing the White House One Gerrymander at a Time

As the saying goes, if you can't beat them, join them. Or, if it's 2013 and you're the Republican party, if you can't beat them, change the rules of the game so you can at least give yourself a shot.

www.huffpost.com

Tying Presidential Electors to Gerrymandered Congressional Districts will Sabotage Elections

Tying the distribution of electoral votes for president to the outcome of individual congressional districts would mirror problems with redistricting and partisan dysfunction into the presidential election.

www.brennancenter.org

Apparently I am not the only one concerned for the effects of gerrymandering on presidential elections.

I am more concerned with Illegals voting. Democrats always cheat.

Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud
By MARINA VILLENEUVEAugust 3, 2018 GMT

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.
In a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who are both Republicans and led the commission, Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said the documents show there was a “pre-ordained outcome” and that drafts of a commission report included a section on evidence of voter fraud that was “glaringly empty.”
Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud

How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed
From a new Supreme Court ruling to a census question about citizenship, the campaign against illegal registration is thriving. But when the top proponent was challenged in a Kansas courtroom to prove that such fraud is rampant, the claims went up in smoke.
by Jessica Huseman June 19, 2018, 3:40 p.m. EDT
How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed



Politics
February 27, 2019 / 5:28 PM / a year ago
North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme

Gabriella Borter
North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme...
Igor Derysh November 6, 2019 10:30PM (UTC)
Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud, win anyway

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud
July 30, 201910:29 PM ET
Richard Gonzales
North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

OH that was fun!

 

[playtime]

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take that moldy old MAGA hat off incel, & put yer critical thinking cap on.
including [district of columbia] 2019

 

[playtime]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump. This hasn't been reported here because well, it's a conservative message board, but now you're being made aware of it.
With Michigan slipping out of Trump's hand, Arizona would be a devastating loss for Cadet Bone Spurs.

Mod Edit. Adding Link - Biden Pulls Ahead Of Trump In Arizona Poll, Putting State In Play For 2020

Michigan and Pennsylvania have slipped away from Trump. This unemployment fiasco in Florida may cause problems for Trump. The results in Wisconsin show a backlash against Republicans. Texas and Georgia are in play.

Nice fantasy there. Michigan is sick of that idiot governor and telling her where to shove it. They’ll go to Trump. Biden has already said he’ll ban fracking. Kiss Pennsylvania goodbye Sniffy Joe. Minnesota and Virginia likely to flip Republican. Yeah you have no hope.

Virginia had the largest Democrat turnout ever with 60% of the voters being female. Democrats took the Governor's race easily and 2 US Senate seats. The closest they got was 9 points. Michigan will not support selfish right wing kooks. Pennsylvania will reject Trump.

Try looking at CURRENT events in Virginia. Michigan is rejecting their idiotic DIM governor. Pennsylvania isn’t voting Bide and losing their biggest revenue source in fracking. 0 for 3.

A small group of selfish people in Michigan and that is all. Pennsylvania will vote for Biden as suburban voters especially women vote against Trump.

bingo. michigan has close to 10,000,000 people. the smallest of fractional hayseeds came to show just how poorly educated they are.

 

[playtime]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump. This hasn't been reported here because well, it's a conservative message board, but now you're being made aware of it.
With Michigan slipping out of Trump's hand, Arizona would be a devastating loss for Cadet Bone Spurs.

Mod Edit. Adding Link - Biden Pulls Ahead Of Trump In Arizona Poll, Putting State In Play For 2020

The Jerk Store is about to recall Donald Trump.