Arizona going to Biden? (Bad news for Trump in latest polls)

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Obama doesn't deserve any credit. History shows that the economy recovers on its own without any government intervention.

Haha, so painfully stupid. Yes, always at the exact same rate, too. Because obama tourettes syndrome. Shut up dummy.

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record, dumbass.

The growth rate under Trump has been no faster than under Obama. Neither Obama or Trump are responsible for what growth there has been.

Obama had more people on welfare after 8 years then when he started lol

Obama has been more honest. Hunger in this country has not gone down under Trump. Republicans have made it more difficult for people who need to get help. Florida is a prime example. Even Republicans concede the unemployment system in Florida was designed NOT to give unemployed people unemployment benefits.

All those people dropping off SNAP was just a coincidence?

It was because Republicans made it harder to get food stamps. Not because they didn't need them.

Bullshit! Why do you lie? Isn't it embarrassing getting it shoved up your ass sideways every time you try some stupid shit?

You are the liar. You are the one who has no shame. Everything you say is stupid shit.

You can't prove the bullshit you claim so it is my fault.

 

[bripat9643]

Every honest person wants to limit voting to only those who are eligible. Douchebags want to make it easy for dead people and illegal aliens to vote.

Good idea

Then why limit poling places? Why cut down on days you can vote? Why reduce the number of voting booths?

Since we can't have an infinite number of poling places, that means there has to be a limit of some kind. No matter where the limit is set, some douchebag like you will whine about it. The same goes for voting booths. local governments don't have infinite budgets.

There's a very good reason to limit of the number of days you can vote. After the voting starts events can occur that might cause people to change their minds. That's why the election should occur over as short of a time period as possible, so all voters are making their decision based on the same set of facts.

I thought our purpose as Americans was to make voting LEGALLY easier for all Americans Not try to keep segments who don't see it your way away from the booths Are you American Bri you fn traitor?

You are mistaken.

Is it your theory that everyone who is too lazy or clueless to follow a few simple procedures "doesn't see things my way?" You're probably right about that.

 

[rightwinger]

Every honest person wants to limit voting to only those who are eligible. Douchebags want to make it easy for dead people and illegal aliens to vote.

Good idea

Then why limit poling places? Why cut down on days you can vote? Why reduce the number of voting booths?

Since we can't have an infinite number of poling places, that means there has to be a limit of some kind. No matter where the limit is set, some douchebag like you will whine about it. The same goes for voting booths. local governments don't have infinite budgets.

There's a very good reason to limit of the number of days you can vote. After the voting starts events can occur that might cause people to change their minds. That's why the election should occur over as short of a time period as possible, so all voters are making their decision based on the same set of facts.

If you have lines......you don’t have enough poling places

Wrong.

If people have to wait for hours......you don’t have enough poling places

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A concept Republicans can’t figure out

I waited maybe an hour the last time I voted. That's not unreasonable for an event that happens once every four years.

An hour?

Just to vote? Takes me 15 minutes or less
Why do Republicans hate America?

 

[bripat9643]

Every honest person wants to limit voting to only those who are eligible. Douchebags want to make it easy for dead people and illegal aliens to vote.

Good idea

Then why limit poling places? Why cut down on days you can vote? Why reduce the number of voting booths?

Since we can't have an infinite number of poling places, that means there has to be a limit of some kind. No matter where the limit is set, some douchebag like you will whine about it. The same goes for voting booths. local governments don't have infinite budgets.

There's a very good reason to limit of the number of days you can vote. After the voting starts events can occur that might cause people to change their minds. That's why the election should occur over as short of a time period as possible, so all voters are making their decision based on the same set of facts.

I thought our purpose as Americans was to make voting LEGALLY easier for all Americans Not try to keep segments who don't see it your way away from the booths Are you American Bri you fn traitor?

You were mistaken.

Where was I mistaken? With easier legal voting or Bri is a fn traitor?? I still believe both are true

You were mistaken about easier voting. There's no mandate to make voting easy except among sleazy lying TDS morons.

 

[bripat9643]

Every honest person wants to limit voting to only those who are eligible. Douchebags want to make it easy for dead people and illegal aliens to vote.

Good idea

Then why limit poling places? Why cut down on days you can vote? Why reduce the number of voting booths?

Since we can't have an infinite number of poling places, that means there has to be a limit of some kind. No matter where the limit is set, some douchebag like you will whine about it. The same goes for voting booths. local governments don't have infinite budgets.

There's a very good reason to limit of the number of days you can vote. After the voting starts events can occur that might cause people to change their minds. That's why the election should occur over as short of a time period as possible, so all voters are making their decision based on the same set of facts.

If you have lines......you don’t have enough poling places

Wrong.

If people have to wait for hours......you don’t have enough poling places

View attachment 324630
A concept Republicans can’t figure out

I waited maybe an hour the last time I voted. That's not unreasonable for an event that happens once every four years.

An hour?

Just to vote? Takes me 15 minutes or less
Why do Republicans hate America?

That's hating America?

 

[WillPower]

Trumpoholics are not conservatives. Conservatives oppose Trump. USMB is a mostly Trumper/Tea Party site.

There are no "conservatives" opposing Trump and repeating this lie ad nauseating won't make it so, fool. Does anybody anywhere believe anything you say? doubtful.

 

[Pogo]

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take that moldy old MAGA hat off incel, & put yer critical thinking cap on.
including [district of columbia] 2019

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No need to be angry you lost! You always have 2032, to mount a come back

lol.... there's no anger dude. guess you need to think that? anyhoo - you show a map that showed a mostly 'red' amerika. it's deceiving, unless you understand the graphic. sure, donny won. because of the EC.

only by 75,000 votes. but you keep thinking it was really a landslide by population.

because of the EC.

EVERY president has won because of the EC.

John Quincy Adams didn't.

Rutherford B. Hayes didn't.

Neither did Ford.

picking nits?

Good call, you are correct, so there's a third, innit.

While we're here we should add eight more: John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester "Sideburns" Arthur, Teddy Roosevelt's first term, Calvin Coolidge's first term, Harry Truman's first term and Lyndon Johnson's first term.

Definition of every

1a: being each individual or part of a group without exception
b: being each in a series or succession every few days every once in a while
2 obsolete : being all taken severally
3: being each within a range of possibilities was given every chance
4: COMPLETE, ENTIRE we have every confidence in her

Here's a guy "disliking" the definition of the word every.

SMH

 

[Pogo]

Trumpoholics are not conservatives. Conservatives oppose Trump. USMB is a mostly Trumper/Tea Party site.

There are no "conservatives" opposing Trump and repeating this lie ad nauseating won't make it so, fool. Does anybody anywhere believe anything you say? doubtful.

At least three conservatives --- well known ones I might add --- challenged him for the party nomination. THIS year.

{cue "No True Scotsman" fallacy in four.... three.... two.... }

 

[San Souci]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump. This hasn't been reported here because well, it's a conservative message board, but now you're being made aware of it.
With Michigan slipping out of Trump's hand, Arizona would be a devastating loss for Cadet Bone Spurs.

Trumpoholics are not conservatives. Conservatives oppose Trump. USMB is a mostly Trumper/Tea Party site.

So what you're saying is that the Tea Party created to get the country back to its conservative founding principles are not real conservatives.

There is very little conservatism in the trump republican party.

Oh really. And you would know HOW?

Well, they are definitely not fiscal conservatives. May have led the beginnings of ecologic and anti polution movement, but not conservative on that issue any more. Not conservative on viewpoint toward the Russian bear. They are willing to adopt radical change and accept/promote to achieve goals. They used to constitutional conservatives. Hard to tell if those constitutional conservatives are alive or had children that lived, if the views expressed on this board are an indication. There is nothing conservative about absolute hate for people in your own country that do not share every single viewpoint.

Who can be fiscally conservative right now? Impossible. Too much to solve. It would be political suicide. The cart has gone off the cliff.

It works for me. Fear that it is political suicide is political cowardice. Bribe your kids so they will prefer you to your wife much. Sounds like the way to go bankrupt, to me. Sooner or later credit card debt has to be dealt with or at least show progress. If on a corporate board, would you continue to extend unlimited credit to a business unit that was consistently failing to control it's capital management, loading the whole corporation with unproductive debt or not? A conservative would not let it get that far or at least would be a voice against the practice. You are the voice of the non-fiscal conservative republican party.

Perhaps these are better inform on the gerrymandering issue as applied to presidential politics.

Justices Opened Door to Gerrymander Presidential Elections - Electoral Vote Map

A recent U.S. Supreme Court decision on partisan gerrymandering opened the door to allow states to gerrymander presidential elections.

electoralvotemap.com

Stealing the White House One Gerrymander at a Time

As the saying goes, if you can't beat them, join them. Or, if it's 2013 and you're the Republican party, if you can't beat them, change the rules of the game so you can at least give yourself a shot.

www.huffpost.com

Tying Presidential Electors to Gerrymandered Congressional Districts will Sabotage Elections

Tying the distribution of electoral votes for president to the outcome of individual congressional districts would mirror problems with redistricting and partisan dysfunction into the presidential election.

www.brennancenter.org

Apparently I am not the only one concerned for the effects of gerrymandering on presidential elections.

I am more concerned with Illegals voting. Democrats always cheat.

Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud
By MARINA VILLENEUVEAugust 3, 2018 GMT

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.
In a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who are both Republicans and led the commission, Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said the documents show there was a “pre-ordained outcome” and that drafts of a commission report included a section on evidence of voter fraud that was “glaringly empty.”
Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud

How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed
From a new Supreme Court ruling to a census question about citizenship, the campaign against illegal registration is thriving. But when the top proponent was challenged in a Kansas courtroom to prove that such fraud is rampant, the claims went up in smoke.
by Jessica Huseman June 19, 2018, 3:40 p.m. EDT
How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed



Politics
February 27, 2019 / 5:28 PM / a year ago
North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme

Gabriella Borter
North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme

Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud scheme...
Igor Derysh November 6, 2019 10:30PM (UTC)
Two Republicans charged in Ohio election fraud, win anyway

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud
July 30, 201910:29 PM ET
Richard Gonzales
North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

OH that was fun!

Democrat investigation.

 

[Auld Phart]

View attachment 324363

take that moldy old MAGA hat off incel, & put yer critical thinking cap on.
including [district of columbia] 2019

View attachment 324454

No need to be angry you lost! You always have 2032, to mount a come back

lol.... there's no anger dude. guess you need to think that? anyhoo - you show a map that showed a mostly 'red' amerika. it's deceiving, unless you understand the graphic. sure, donny won. because of the EC.

only by 75,000 votes. but you keep thinking it was really a landslide by population.

because of the EC.

EVERY president has won because of the EC.

John Quincy Adams didn't.

Rutherford B. Hayes didn't.

Neither did Ford.

picking nits?

Good call, you are correct, so there's a third, innit.

While we're here we should add eight more: John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester "Sideburns" Arthur, Teddy Roosevelt's first term, Calvin Coolidge's first term, Harry Truman's first term and Lyndon Johnson's first term.

Definition of every

1a: being each individual or part of a group without exception
b: being each in a series or succession every few days every once in a while
2 obsolete : being all taken severally
3: being each within a range of possibilities was given every chance
4: COMPLETE, ENTIRE we have every confidence in her

Now, look up the word 'win'.

and tell us which of those presidents 'won' the presidency.


and, while you're at it, stop trolling.

 

[San Souci]

Obama doesn't deserve any credit. History shows that the economy recovers on its own without any government intervention.

Haha, so painfully stupid. Yes, always at the exact same rate, too. Because obama tourettes syndrome. Shut up dummy.

The recovery under Obama was one of the slowest on record, dumbass.

The growth rate under Trump has been no faster than under Obama. Neither Obama or Trump are responsible for what growth there has been.

Obama had more people on welfare after 8 years then when he started lol

Obama has been more honest. Hunger in this country has not gone down under Trump. Republicans have made it more difficult for people who need to get help. Florida is a prime example. Even Republicans concede the unemployment system in Florida was designed NOT to give unemployed people unemployment benefits.

All those people dropping off SNAP was just a coincidence?

It was because Republicans made it harder to get food stamps. Not because they didn't need them.

Bullshit! Why do you lie? Isn't it embarrassing getting it shoved up your ass sideways every time you try some stupid shit?

BB is isn't lying per say, Liberals really believe their own bullshit.

Only if they make Graft money on it.

 

[Pogo]

View attachment 324363

take that moldy old MAGA hat off incel, & put yer critical thinking cap on.
including [district of columbia] 2019

View attachment 324454

No need to be angry you lost! You always have 2032, to mount a come back

lol.... there's no anger dude. guess you need to think that? anyhoo - you show a map that showed a mostly 'red' amerika. it's deceiving, unless you understand the graphic. sure, donny won. because of the EC.

only by 75,000 votes. but you keep thinking it was really a landslide by population.

because of the EC.

EVERY president has won because of the EC.

But did they ALL lose the popular vote?

Adams did in 1824 (by more than 10 points).
Hayes did in 1876. Harrison (B) did in 1888. Bush in Y2K and of course Rump.

 

[Pogo]

View attachment 324363

take that moldy old MAGA hat off incel, & put yer critical thinking cap on.
including [district of columbia] 2019

View attachment 324454

No need to be angry you lost! You always have 2032, to mount a come back

lol.... there's no anger dude. guess you need to think that? anyhoo - you show a map that showed a mostly 'red' amerika. it's deceiving, unless you understand the graphic. sure, donny won. because of the EC.

only by 75,000 votes. but you keep thinking it was really a landslide by population.

because of the EC.

EVERY president has won because of the EC.

John Quincy Adams didn't.

Rutherford B. Hayes didn't.

Neither did Ford.

picking nits?

Good call, you are correct, so there's a third, innit.

While we're here we should add eight more: John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester "Sideburns" Arthur, Teddy Roosevelt's first term, Calvin Coolidge's first term, Harry Truman's first term and Lyndon Johnson's first term.

Definition of every

1a: being each individual or part of a group without exception
b: being each in a series or succession every few days every once in a while
2 obsolete : being all taken severally
3: being each within a range of possibilities was given every chance
4: COMPLETE, ENTIRE we have every confidence in her

Now, look up the word 'win'.

and tell us which of those presidents 'won' the presidency.


and, while you're at it, stop trolling.

Butthurt that I know my Presidents huh.

TR, Coolidge, Truman and LBJ won terms in their own right, 1904, 1924, 1948 and 1964. I know all this shit.
Of those four only Roosevelt tried to win another term beyond the one he was elected to, and he had to do it with a third party.

 

[Jitss617]

View attachment 324363

take that moldy old MAGA hat off incel, & put yer critical thinking cap on.
including [district of columbia] 2019

View attachment 324454

No need to be angry you lost! You always have 2032, to mount a come back

lol.... there's no anger dude. guess you need to think that? anyhoo - you show a map that showed a mostly 'red' amerika. it's deceiving, unless you understand the graphic. sure, donny won. because of the EC.

only by 75,000 votes. but you keep thinking it was really a landslide by population.

because of the EC.

EVERY president has won because of the EC.

John Quincy Adams didn't.

Rutherford B. Hayes didn't.

Neither did Ford.

picking nits?

Good call, you are correct, so there's a third, innit.

While we're here we should add eight more: John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester "Sideburns" Arthur, Teddy Roosevelt's first term, Calvin Coolidge's first term, Harry Truman's first term and Lyndon Johnson's first term.

Definition of every

1a: being each individual or part of a group without exception
b: being each in a series or succession every few days every once in a while
2 obsolete : being all taken severally
3: being each within a range of possibilities was given every chance
4: COMPLETE, ENTIRE we have every confidence in her

Now, look up the word 'win'.

and tell us which of those presidents 'won' the presidency.


and, while you're at it, stop trolling.

Butthurt that I know my Presidents huh.

TR, Coolidge, Truman and LBJ won terms in their own right, 1904, 1924, 1948 and 1964. I know all this shit.

Democrats won’t win for a very long time..you hate America to much

 

[Auld Phart]

View attachment 324363

take that moldy old MAGA hat off incel, & put yer critical thinking cap on.
including [district of columbia] 2019

View attachment 324454

No need to be angry you lost! You always have 2032, to mount a come back

lol.... there's no anger dude. guess you need to think that? anyhoo - you show a map that showed a mostly 'red' amerika. it's deceiving, unless you understand the graphic. sure, donny won. because of the EC.

only by 75,000 votes. but you keep thinking it was really a landslide by population.

because of the EC.

EVERY president has won because of the EC.

John Quincy Adams didn't.

Rutherford B. Hayes didn't.

Neither did Ford.

picking nits?

Good call, you are correct, so there's a third, innit.

While we're here we should add eight more: John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester "Sideburns" Arthur, Teddy Roosevelt's first term, Calvin Coolidge's first term, Harry Truman's first term and Lyndon Johnson's first term.

Definition of every

1a: being each individual or part of a group without exception
b: being each in a series or succession every few days every once in a while
2 obsolete : being all taken severally
3: being each within a range of possibilities was given every chance
4: COMPLETE, ENTIRE we have every confidence in her

Now, look up the word 'win'.

and tell us which of those presidents 'won' the presidency.


and, while you're at it, stop trolling.

Butthurt that I know my Presidents huh.

TR, Coolidge, Truman and LBJ won terms in their own right, 1904, 1924, 1948 and 1964. I know all this shit.

But, you didn't know what the word 'win' meant in my original post?

 

[rightwinger]

Every honest person wants to limit voting to only those who are eligible. Douchebags want to make it easy for dead people and illegal aliens to vote.

Good idea

Then why limit poling places? Why cut down on days you can vote? Why reduce the number of voting booths?

Since we can't have an infinite number of poling places, that means there has to be a limit of some kind. No matter where the limit is set, some douchebag like you will whine about it. The same goes for voting booths. local governments don't have infinite budgets.

There's a very good reason to limit of the number of days you can vote. After the voting starts events can occur that might cause people to change their minds. That's why the election should occur over as short of a time period as possible, so all voters are making their decision based on the same set of facts.

I thought our purpose as Americans was to make voting LEGALLY easier for all Americans Not try to keep segments who don't see it your way away from the booths Are you American Bri you fn traitor?

You were mistaken.

Where was I mistaken? With easier legal voting or Bri is a fn traitor?? I still believe both are true

You were mistaken about easier voting. There's no mandate to make voting easy except among sleazy lying TDS morons.

There is a mandate among Republicans to drive away as many voters as they can

 

[Pogo]

View attachment 324363

take that moldy old MAGA hat off incel, & put yer critical thinking cap on.
including [district of columbia] 2019

View attachment 324454

No need to be angry you lost! You always have 2032, to mount a come back

lol.... there's no anger dude. guess you need to think that? anyhoo - you show a map that showed a mostly 'red' amerika. it's deceiving, unless you understand the graphic. sure, donny won. because of the EC.

only by 75,000 votes. but you keep thinking it was really a landslide by population.

because of the EC.

EVERY president has won because of the EC.

John Quincy Adams didn't.

Rutherford B. Hayes didn't.

Neither did Ford.

picking nits?

Good call, you are correct, so there's a third, innit.

While we're here we should add eight more: John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester "Sideburns" Arthur, Teddy Roosevelt's first term, Calvin Coolidge's first term, Harry Truman's first term and Lyndon Johnson's first term.

Definition of every

1a: being each individual or part of a group without exception
b: being each in a series or succession every few days every once in a while
2 obsolete : being all taken severally
3: being each within a range of possibilities was given every chance
4: COMPLETE, ENTIRE we have every confidence in her

Now, look up the word 'win'.

and tell us which of those presidents 'won' the presidency.


and, while you're at it, stop trolling.

Butthurt that I know my Presidents huh.

TR, Coolidge, Truman and LBJ won terms in their own right, 1904, 1924, 1948 and 1964. I know all this shit.

But, you didn't know what the word 'win' meant in my original post?

Sure. Both Adams and Hayes "won" the office, though they didn't win it directly from the EC.

Ford did not. But as long as you brought in Ford I brought in the other eight.

 

[tyroneweaver]

The latest polls in Arizona have Joe Biden beating Donald Trump. This hasn't been reported here because well, it's a conservative message board, but now you're being made aware of it.
With Michigan slipping out of Trump's hand, Arizona would be a devastating loss for Cadet Bone Spurs.

Mod Edit. Adding Link - Biden Pulls Ahead Of Trump In Arizona Poll, Putting State In Play For 2020

could be true. Us pubs don't deny Trump could lose.
But to Biden.???? I dunnno

Biden is a moderate with a long history of bipartisan cooperation.

A good alternative to a petty, moody egomaniac

you are kidding right? Biden a moderate. LOL
You boy hasn't even come up with a coronavirus plan.
He just mimics or attacks Trump
What's the plan Biden.

 

[Pogo]

Trump will lose in November. He will then claim voter fraud setting up just another manufactured Trump Constitutional crisis. Trump will never concede. Biden will still be inaugurated as President.

Why would Trump lose? Because of the overwhelming power of leftist wishful thinking? "Clap if you believe in fairies!"

Whelp.... with the notation about AridZona as a starting point.... your state is pretty crucial for him, as he could not win as much as 50% of its vote in 2016. That's what we call "soft". This was also the case in that infamous trio of states commonly cited as the turning point where his plurality was some 77,000 votes combined from all three states. Yet Rump could not win as much as 50% of the vote in any of those states either --- not one. That's not only a perfect storm, it's a razor-thin one. Then add in my state of North Cackalackee, and Florida, where he also could not muster half the vote, and even Utah. UTAH, with an R after his name, could not garner HALF the state vote.

That's softer than two scoops of ice cream after Stormy Daniels sits on them. Everything would have to go perfectly in ALL of those states to repeat that razoer-thin perfect storm.

Now add to that his inability to even touch 50% approval rating during his term -- even given a national crisis where popular sentiment traditionally gathers 'round the office (e.g. Bush after 9/11 with a 90% rating). That's even softer. Then pile on all the giant holes he's walked into, the divisive stupid shit rally bloviations, and his collossal fuckup of Cornoavirus response, and this is not a horse you want to bet the house on to put it mildly.

What's more you already know all this, because I well remember in 2015-16 you were right on the front lines calling this fraud out for what he is. You and I found ourselves on the same side and it gave both of us the creeps. But at least it was honest.

 

[eddiew]

Every honest person wants to limit voting to only those who are eligible. Douchebags want to make it easy for dead people and illegal aliens to vote.

Good idea

Then why limit poling places? Why cut down on days you can vote? Why reduce the number of voting booths?

Since we can't have an infinite number of poling places, that means there has to be a limit of some kind. No matter where the limit is set, some douchebag like you will whine about it. The same goes for voting booths. local governments don't have infinite budgets.

There's a very good reason to limit of the number of days you can vote. After the voting starts events can occur that might cause people to change their minds. That's why the election should occur over as short of a time period as possible, so all voters are making their decision based on the same set of facts.

I thought our purpose as Americans was to make voting LEGALLY easier for all Americans Not try to keep segments who don't see it your way away from the booths Are you American Bri you fn traitor?

You were mistaken.

Where was I mistaken? With easier legal voting or Bri is a fn traitor?? I still believe both are true

You were mistaken about easier voting. There's no mandate to make voting easy except among sleazy lying TDS morons.

There is a mandate among Republicans to drive away as many voters as they can

Great patriots ?? republicans ? Traitors should get the firing squad