Armed vet destroys gun nuts’ argument by explaining why he didn’t attack Oregon killer

[2aguy]

Ruins the whole "gun free zone" malarkey doesnt it

Huh? How does what one guy does or doesn't do ruin an argument? He decided to not play hero since he knew cops were on the way and didn't want to get caught running around looking for the dude. Maybe I would have done the same, I'd have to be there to know.

But nice try for a retard anyway.

Great question....He stated that there is no gun free zone there and plenty of students conceal carry. Did you miss that part or do you want me to type it s.l.o.w.e.r?

against campus policy......

 

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He wasn't confronted so that means his gun disappeared!!!

HORDOR!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I created a thread to praise the heroism of the vet that ACTUALLY TRIED to stop the carnage. It got a couple responses.
SEVERAL hours later a lefties scumbag creates this thread about a man who wasn't even near the event because it advances his agenda and it gets pages of responses......

 

[ClosedCaption]

Ruins the whole "gun free zone" malarkey doesnt it

Huh? How does what one guy does or doesn't do ruin an argument? He decided to not play hero since he knew cops were on the way and didn't want to get caught running around looking for the dude. Maybe I would have done the same, I'd have to be there to know.

But nice try for a retard anyway.

Great question....He stated that there is no gun free zone there and plenty of students conceal carry. Did you miss that part or do you want me to type it s.l.o.w.e.r?

against campus policy......

Within state law....

 

[2aguy]

Not really. The campus did have a policy. No guns allowed. Most CCW carriers will follow that.

Here's the facts: Guy right there had his gun on campus.

Guy right there says many students carry.

Your response I'd to ignore reality and call the guy on the scene a liar with nothing to back it.

Either we are discussing facts or we are discussing made up bs by you. I'm doing the first thing, you're not.

he was 200 yards away and had no idea exactly what was going on...moron.

That's also a fact. So?

there wasn't a concealed carrier wjere the shooter was.....so no concealed carrier was there to stop the shooter.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I created a thread to praise the heroism of the vet that ACTUALLY TRIED to stop the carnage. It got a couple responses.
SEVERAL hours later a lefties scumbag creates this thread about a man who wasn't even near the event because it advances his agenda and it gets pages of responses......

Oh, so this is about you then? I'll get over there to pat your fucking peanut ass head. Better?

 

[daws101]

All these twerps, puffing and posturing and bragging about what they would do are full of crap. There was a shooter in Tucson who hid in the Walgreens. We've heard similar with so many of these idiotic shootings. They're nothing but fierce little Mighty Mouse wannabes.

Its very likely there were other guns there as well. In this case, the cops were there within minutes, engaged the shooter within minutes.

The other excuse we hear is that mental illness is to blame. If that were true, there would be mass killings in every civilized country in the world. So far this year, 10 THOUSAND people have been killed by guns. What other country would put up with that?

France...they gave up there people for murder to the Germans.....the Germans murdered 12 million people...Europe is not a role model for civilized behavior.....

not the Germans did ploy.
even worse he totally disregards the mass slaughter of native Americans and the 24/7 shoot em up that was the west ...

 

[2aguy]

I created a thread to praise the heroism of the vet that ACTUALLY TRIED to stop the carnage. It got a couple responses.
SEVERAL hours later a lefties scumbag creates this thread about a man who wasn't even near the event because it advances his agenda and it gets pages of responses......

Imagine if the vet who rushed the guy had had a pistol instead.....lhe wouldn't have been shot 7 times and the perp likely would have run, or been shot...and lives would have been saved....


i heard the gun,an changed magazines at least once...anyone else hear that?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Armed vet destroys gun nuts’ argument on mass shooters by explaining why he didn’t attack Oregon killer



A veteran who says he was carrying a concealed weapon on the UCC campus Thursday when 26-year-old Christopher Harper Mercer went on a murderous rampage, says he didn’t intervene because he knew police SWAT team members wouldn’t know him from the shooter.

In an interview with MSNBC, vet John Parker said he knows lots of students who conceal carry at the school because, despite a school policy that discourages weapons on campus, Oregon state law does allow it.

Saying he does conceal carry in case “I’m in close proximity” to an incident where he might try to save some lives, Parker admitted he’s not the type who believes that “there’s always somebody out there behind your back ready to do something like this.”


Ruins the whole "gun free zone" malarkey doesnt it

That's not what he said last night right after the fact. You stupid liberals are grasping at straws. The REAL ex vet charged the shooter & took 5 bullets for his heroism. Had he had a gun it may have ended right there and then.
That moron you're so eagerly quoting wasn't even near the action and instead of giving him glory for his so called reasoning you should be questioning his motives for getting in front of the fucking camera.
The real hero is in the hospital recovering from FIVE FUCKING BULLET WOUNDS

There is more than one vet in the world dummy. And instead of listening to what he said you instead go for the "what's his motivation?" Strawman so you can allude to something never said, implied or factual.

Your anger shows you're more style than substance

No you stupid black bastard. HE GAVE A DIFFERENT STORY LAST NIGHT. But your so wrapped up in your bullshit you just eat his words up like fucking candy. And yes I'm angry. A real man who at least tried to stop the carnage is in the hospital for his effort while you promote a man who was cowering in a corner 200 yards away.

Coward comes to mind but who it fits better, you or him, has yet to be determined

 

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Not really. The campus did have a policy. No guns allowed. Most CCW carriers will follow that.

Here's the facts: Guy right there had his gun on campus.

Guy right there says many students carry.

Your response I'd to ignore reality and call the guy on the scene a liar with nothing to back it.

Either we are discussing facts or we are discussing made up bs by you. I'm doing the first thing, you're not.

he was 200 yards away and had no idea exactly what was going on...moron.

That's also a fact. So?

there wasn't a concealed carrier wjere the shooter was.....so no concealed carrier was there to stop the shooter.

Maybe, again, what does that have to do with anything? It also happened yesterday! And a gun was used!

 

[2aguy]

All these twerps, puffing and posturing and bragging about what they would do are full of crap. There was a shooter in Tucson who hid in the Walgreens. We've heard similar with so many of these idiotic shootings. They're nothing but fierce little Mighty Mouse wannabes.

Its very likely there were other guns there as well. In this case, the cops were there within minutes, engaged the shooter within minutes.

The other excuse we hear is that mental illness is to blame. If that were true, there would be mass killings in every civilized country in the world. So far this year, 10 THOUSAND people have been killed by guns. What other country would put up with that?

France...they gave up there people for murder to the Germans.....the Germans murdered 12 million people...Europe is not a role model for civilized behavior.....

not the Germans did ploy.
even worse he totally disregards the mass slaughter of native Americans and the 24/7 shoot em up that was the west ...

the West wasn't a shoot em up...that is a gun grabber myth.

 

[2aguy]

All these twerps, puffing and posturing and bragging about what they would do are full of crap. There was a shooter in Tucson who hid in the Walgreens. We've heard similar with so many of these idiotic shootings. They're nothing but fierce little Mighty Mouse wannabes.

Its very likely there were other guns there as well. In this case, the cops were there within minutes, engaged the shooter within minutes.

The other excuse we hear is that mental illness is to blame. If that were true, there would be mass killings in every civilized country in the world. So far this year, 10 THOUSAND people have been killed by guns. What other country would put up with that?

France...they gave up there people for murder to the Germans.....the Germans murdered 12 million people...Europe is not a role model for civilized behavior.....

not the Germans did ploy.
even worse he totally disregards the mass slaughter of native Americans and the 24/7 shoot em up that was the west ...

or the mass slaughter of settlers by indians....

 

[daws101]

All these twerps, puffing and posturing and bragging about what they would do are full of crap. There was a shooter in Tucson who hid in the Walgreens. We've heard similar with so many of these idiotic shootings. They're nothing but fierce little Mighty Mouse wannabes.

Its very likely there were other guns there as well. In this case, the cops were there within minutes, engaged the shooter within minutes.

The other excuse we hear is that mental illness is to blame. If that were true, there would be mass killings in every civilized country in the world. So far this year, 10 THOUSAND people have been killed by guns. What other country would put up with that?

France...they gave up there people for murder to the Germans.....the Germans murdered 12 million people...Europe is not a role model for civilized behavior.....

not the Germans did ploy.
even worse he totally disregards the mass slaughter of native Americans and the 24/7 shoot em up that was the west ...

the West wasn't a shoot em up...that is a gun grabber myth.

bullshit .
make link]

• Russel Thornton, American Indian Holocaust and Survival (1987)
  • Overall decline
    • From 600,000 (in 1800) to 250,000 (in 1890s)
  • Indian Wars, from a 1894 report by US Census, cited by Thornton. Includes men, woman and children killed, 1775-1890:
    • Individual conflicts:
      • Whites: 5,000
      • Indians: 8,500
    • Wars under the gov't:
      • Whites: 14,000
      • Indians: 30-45,000
    • TOTAL:
      • Whites: 19,000
      • Indians: 38,500 to 53,500
      • TOTAL: 65,000 ± 7,500
• William Osborn: The Wild Frontier: atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee (2000)
  • Deaths caused by specific settler atrocities: 7,193 (1623-1890)
  • Deaths caused by specific Indian atrocities: 9,156 (1511-1879. Incl. Indian vs. Indian)
  • Osborne basically defines an atrocity as murder or torture of civilians and prisoners. Most of your outright massacres are counted, but the Trail of Tears, for example, isn't.
• Trail of Tears (1838-39)
  • Trager, The People's Chronology: 4,000 out of 14,000 Cherokee die on route.
  • Osborne: anywhere between 1,846 and 18,000 Indians died, in total.

 

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Armed vet destroys gun nuts’ argument on mass shooters by explaining why he didn’t attack Oregon killer



A veteran who says he was carrying a concealed weapon on the UCC campus Thursday when 26-year-old Christopher Harper Mercer went on a murderous rampage, says he didn’t intervene because he knew police SWAT team members wouldn’t know him from the shooter.

In an interview with MSNBC, vet John Parker said he knows lots of students who conceal carry at the school because, despite a school policy that discourages weapons on campus, Oregon state law does allow it.

Saying he does conceal carry in case “I’m in close proximity” to an incident where he might try to save some lives, Parker admitted he’s not the type who believes that “there’s always somebody out there behind your back ready to do something like this.”


Ruins the whole "gun free zone" malarkey doesnt it

That's not what he said last night right after the fact. You stupid liberals are grasping at straws. The REAL ex vet charged the shooter & took 5 bullets for his heroism. Had he had a gun it may have ended right there and then.
That moron you're so eagerly quoting wasn't even near the action and instead of giving him glory for his so called reasoning you should be questioning his motives for getting in front of the fucking camera.
The real hero is in the hospital recovering from FIVE FUCKING BULLET WOUNDS

There is more than one vet in the world dummy. And instead of listening to what he said you instead go for the "what's his motivation?" Strawman so you can allude to something never said, implied or factual.

Your anger shows you're more style than substance

No you stupid black bastard. HE GAVE A DIFFERENT STORY LAST NIGHT. But your so wrapped up in your bullshit you just eat his words up like fucking candy. And yes I'm angry. A real man who at least tried to stop the carnage is in the hospital for his effort while you promote a man who was cowering in a corner 200 yards away.

Coward comes to mind but who it fits better, you or him, has yet to be determined

You've said he gave a different story 3 times. Care to reveal the real story that shows this guy is a liar or do you want to keep screaming?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I created a thread to praise the heroism of the vet that ACTUALLY TRIED to stop the carnage. It got a couple responses.
SEVERAL hours later a lefties scumbag creates this thread about a man who wasn't even near the event because it advances his agenda and it gets pages of responses......

Oh, so this is about you then? I'll get over there to pat your fucking peanut ass head. Better?

You're too stupid to get it so let me help you.

One man tried to stop the shooter. One man hid in a corner.

Guess who your stupid ass is praising?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"A veteran who says he was carrying a concealed weapon on the UCC campus Thursday when 26-year-old Christopher Harper Mercer went on a murderous rampage, says he didn’t intervene because he knew police SWAT team members wouldn’t know him from the shooter."

That's one good reason.

Another good reason is that innocent bystanders could be injured or killed by a 'good guy' trying to 'stop' the shooter.

One carries a concealed firearm for his own self-defense, not to act as 'law enforcement.'

Parker made the correct and intelligent decision.

 

[2aguy]

All these twerps, puffing and posturing and bragging about what they would do are full of crap. There was a shooter in Tucson who hid in the Walgreens. We've heard similar with so many of these idiotic shootings. They're nothing but fierce little Mighty Mouse wannabes.

Its very likely there were other guns there as well. In this case, the cops were there within minutes, engaged the shooter within minutes.

The other excuse we hear is that mental illness is to blame. If that were true, there would be mass killings in every civilized country in the world. So far this year, 10 THOUSAND people have been killed by guns. What other country would put up with that?

France...they gave up there people for murder to the Germans.....the Germans murdered 12 million people...Europe is not a role model for civilized behavior.....

not the Germans did ploy.
even worse he totally disregards the mass slaughter of native Americans and the 24/7 shoot em up that was the west ...

the West wasn't a shoot em up...that is a gun grabber myth.

bullshit .

you needto read more about the period...and stop thinking movie westerns are real.

 

[daws101]

All these twerps, puffing and posturing and bragging about what they would do are full of crap. There was a shooter in Tucson who hid in the Walgreens. We've heard similar with so many of these idiotic shootings. They're nothing but fierce little Mighty Mouse wannabes.

Its very likely there were other guns there as well. In this case, the cops were there within minutes, engaged the shooter within minutes.

The other excuse we hear is that mental illness is to blame. If that were true, there would be mass killings in every civilized country in the world. So far this year, 10 THOUSAND people have been killed by guns. What other country would put up with that?

France...they gave up there people for murder to the Germans.....the Germans murdered 12 million people...Europe is not a role model for civilized behavior.....

not the Germans did ploy.
even worse he totally disregards the mass slaughter of native Americans and the 24/7 shoot em up that was the west ...

or the mass slaughter of settlers by indians....

bullshit.

 

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These guys aren't even addressing the topic anymore. Gramps is crying that no one replied to his thread and 2A is stuck in state obvious facts mode.

A guy did the shooting!!

 

[daws101]

All these twerps, puffing and posturing and bragging about what they would do are full of crap. There was a shooter in Tucson who hid in the Walgreens. We've heard similar with so many of these idiotic shootings. They're nothing but fierce little Mighty Mouse wannabes.

Its very likely there were other guns there as well. In this case, the cops were there within minutes, engaged the shooter within minutes.

The other excuse we hear is that mental illness is to blame. If that were true, there would be mass killings in every civilized country in the world. So far this year, 10 THOUSAND people have been killed by guns. What other country would put up with that?

France...they gave up there people for murder to the Germans.....the Germans murdered 12 million people...Europe is not a role model for civilized behavior.....

not the Germans did ploy.
even worse he totally disregards the mass slaughter of native Americans and the 24/7 shoot em up that was the west ...

the West wasn't a shoot em up...that is a gun grabber myth.

bullshit .

you needto read more about the period...and stop thinking movie westerns are real.

you should take your own advice