Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[Old Rocks]

I am a patriot. Guns are cool, but, I don't need have a gun to be American. I'm 100% American, bonafide, with a birth certificate and all that. If we NEED to have a firearm in this country, what kind of country are we living in?

It's not a matter of need.
It's about freedom and our 2nd amendment rights.

Interestingly enough, when we have people like the militia running around, there is a need for some of us to own and know how to use a weapon. These thugs would have tried to run right over the people of Burns, had not those people, almost to the person been gun owners, because of the amount of subsistance hunting in that area. They were told their scuzzy asses were not welcome, and they are really unwelcome now.

Home-Welcome to Harney County, Oregon

Harney County-The Official Site


The Harney County Court House will be CLOSED for security reasons
Monday January 4, 2016.


THE HARNEY COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND ALL COUNTY OFFICES WILL BE OPEN REGULAR HOURS ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 5, 2016




PRESS RELEASE


The Harney County Court is very concerned with the ongoing situation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The Refuge is under federal jurisdiction. The County Court will stay engaged within the limits of our legal authority. Our main concern is for the safety and well-being of the citizens of this county. No one knows what the next actions will be of the outside groups who have seized control at the Refuge. In our nation we have three branches of government so that each serves as a check and balance to the others. If these militia groups believe the administrative branch is overreaching they have every right to utilize the judicial branch and or legislative branch to address their concerns. We encourage them to take this route.

The Hammond family is well respected in Harney County, motivation of the militia groups that have descended on Harney County goes far beyond the troubles of the Hammond family as demonstrated by their actions at the Refuge.

The County will be releasing regular updates making them available to media and the general public through the Harney County websitewww.co.harney.or.us

An email has been set up for access to the Harney County Court and its members regarding the current situation [email protected]

Instructions for Courthouse Employees for workplace entry.

The Harney County Courthouse and all County Offices will be open for business from 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m., Tuesday, January 5th through Friday, January 8th, 2016. All employees must enter through the front door of the Courthouse. You will need to present your County ID and expect increased security measures. You must park in front of the Courthouse or on the south side of the Courthouse. You will not be able to park on the north side, nor next to the Sheriff’s Office/Jail.

The public entering the Courthouse for business should expect increased security measures as well.

 

[Missourian]

You are rapidly putting yourself outside of that definition, Missouri. Harney County is not Missouri. It is all rural. The town of Burns is the only town in it, and has all of 7000 people, on a good day. The next town is Drewsey, which has maybe 30 people. It is 10,228 sq. mi. in size. Almost everybody knows everybody else. A jury of their peers convicted the Hammond's of setting those fires. They would not have done so without very convincing evidence. That is very dry country, and has had some extreme fires in the past decade, some of which have cost some ranchers as much as 1/3 of their herd. Setting those fires were acts of criminal negligence. The Hammond's were justly convicted, and served their time.

There should not be additional time added. And that is what the peaceful protest in Burns was all about.

We are totally on the same page to this point. But they did have time added...and nobody would have ever heard a peep about it outside of Harney County if it weren't for the militia...now it's a national headline in every major news outlet.

The actions of the militia are illegal, and should be prosecuted.

Civil disobedience is illegal. It is also a potent tool for bringing about political change. They should receive the same punishment Occupy Wall Streeters received for their civil disobedience.

This is where you say "But they are armed!" and I say "So what?"

 

[koshergrl]

I read the article about the fires and the sentencing...apparently, environmentalists want the Hammond land, and the government is doing all they can to get it.

if you did you'd have known the fires were set on "leased" BLM land hack boi

One of the fires, set in 2001, was a prescribed burn on Hammond’s private property; a routine range improvement practice. The other fire, set on Hammond’s private property in 2006, was a back-burn intended to protect the ranch’s winter pasture from a lightening fire on adjacent federal land.

Ranchers face added jail time for BLM fire | TSLN.com
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Now please STFU and let the honest adults talks, Ms Stolen Valor.

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You are rapidly putting yourself outside of that definition, Missouri. Harney County is not Missouri. It is all rural. The town of Burns is the only town in it, and has all of 7000 people, on a good day. The next town is Drewsey, which has maybe 30 people. It is 10,228 sq. mi. in size. Almost everybody knows everybody else. A jury of their peers convicted the Hammond's of setting those fires. They would not have done so without very convincing evidence. That is very dry country, and has had some extreme fires in the past decade, some of which have cost some ranchers as much as 1/3 of their herd. Setting those fires were acts of criminal negligence. The Hammond's were justly convicted, and served their time.

There should not be additional time added. And that is what the peaceful protest in Burns was all about.

The actions of the militia are illegal, and should be prosecuted.

Trespassing on public land, meh.

 

[Old Rocks]

<snip> However, there aren't many in the way of black survivalists.

Not at all true. But the race card does not at all belong here, TyroneSlothrop .

Maybe you forgot about John Brown, a white man:

John Brown (abolitionist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

who with his armed folks took over an armory to try to arm Africans to help overthrow the slavery system.

John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And was quite properly hung for his efforts. Same should apply for these assholes.

 

[WillowTree]

These men were tried, convicted, jailed and served their terms. Correct?

 

[Vigilante]

OVER 60% of Oregon is FEDERAL LAND! WHY does the government OWN THIS LAND?

 

[Vigilante]

Full Story About What's Going on In Oregon - "Militia" Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to ...
The Last Refuge‎ - 2 days ago
(a) In 1964 the Hammonds' purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase ...

 

[bodecea]

LOL. What a silly ass you are. You think that is impressive? Stupid asses doing stupid ass things. What a bunch of idiotic fruitloops.

He must be one of those toughie keyboard kommandos we hear so much about...*swoon

 

[Skylar]

I am a patriot. Guns are cool, but, I don't need have a gun to be American. I'm 100% American, bonafide, with a birth certificate and all that. If we NEED to have a firearm in this country, what kind of country are we living in?

It's not a matter of need.
It's about freedom and our 2nd amendment rights.

Interestingly enough, when we have people like the militia running around, there is a need for some of us to own and know how to use a weapon. These thugs would have tried to run right over the people of Burns, had not those people, almost to the person been gun owners, because of the amount of subsistance hunting in that area. They were told their scuzzy asses were not welcome, and they are really unwelcome now.

Home-Welcome to Harney County, Oregon

Harney County-The Official Site


The Harney County Court House will be CLOSED for security reasons
Monday January 4, 2016.


THE HARNEY COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND ALL COUNTY OFFICES WILL BE OPEN REGULAR HOURS ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 5, 2016




PRESS RELEASE


The Harney County Court is very concerned with the ongoing situation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The Refuge is under federal jurisdiction. The County Court will stay engaged within the limits of our legal authority. Our main concern is for the safety and well-being of the citizens of this county. No one knows what the next actions will be of the outside groups who have seized control at the Refuge. In our nation we have three branches of government so that each serves as a check and balance to the others. If these militia groups believe the administrative branch is overreaching they have every right to utilize the judicial branch and or legislative branch to address their concerns. We encourage them to take this route.

The Hammond family is well respected in Harney County, motivation of the militia groups that have descended on Harney County goes far beyond the troubles of the Hammond family as demonstrated by their actions at the Refuge.

The County will be releasing regular updates making them available to media and the general public through the Harney County websitewww.co.harney.or.us

An email has been set up for access to the Harney County Court and its members regarding the current situation [email protected]

Instructions for Courthouse Employees for workplace entry.

The Harney County Courthouse and all County Offices will be open for business from 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m., Tuesday, January 5th through Friday, January 8th, 2016. All employees must enter through the front door of the Courthouse. You will need to present your County ID and expect increased security measures. You must park in front of the Courthouse or on the south side of the Courthouse. You will not be able to park on the north side, nor next to the Sheriff’s Office/Jail.

The public entering the Courthouse for business should expect increased security measures as well.

The militia members did rather elegantly demonstrate that they're just using Hammond for their own horseshit by seizing the federal building. That has nothing to do with Hammond. Which might explain why Hammond has repeatedly insisted that he has nothing to do with the militia nor do they represent him.

 

[bodecea]

OVER 60% of Oregon is FEDERAL LAND! WHY does the government OWN THIS LAND?

Because they've had it since we got Oregon from the UK.

 

[Skylar]

These men were tried, convicted, jailed and served their terms. Correct?

No. They were tried, convicted, jailed, and served a reduced sentence that an appeals court overturned. With the legally required sentence imposed instead.

 

[CremeBrulee]

These men were tried, convicted, jailed and served their terms. Correct?

No. They were tried, convicted, jailed, and served a reduced sentence that an appeals court overturned. With the legally required sentence imposed instead.

With credit for time served.

 

[Skylar]

I read the article about the fires and the sentencing...apparently, environmentalists want the Hammond land, and the government is doing all they can to get it.

if you did you'd have known the fires were set on "leased" BLM land hack boi

One of the fires, set in 2001, was a prescribed burn on Hammond’s private property; a routine range improvement practice. The other fire, set on Hammond’s private property in 2006, was a back-burn intended to protect the ranch’s winter pasture from a lightening fire on adjacent federal land.

Ranchers face added jail time for BLM fire | TSLN.com
​

Now please STFU and let the honest adults talks, Ms Stolen Valor.

​

You are rapidly putting yourself outside of that definition, Missouri. Harney County is not Missouri. It is all rural. The town of Burns is the only town in it, and has all of 7000 people, on a good day. The next town is Drewsey, which has maybe 30 people. It is 10,228 sq. mi. in size. Almost everybody knows everybody else. A jury of their peers convicted the Hammond's of setting those fires. They would not have done so without very convincing evidence. That is very dry country, and has had some extreme fires in the past decade, some of which have cost some ranchers as much as 1/3 of their herd. Setting those fires were acts of criminal negligence. The Hammond's were justly convicted, and served their time.

There should not be additional time added. And that is what the peaceful protest in Burns was all about.

The actions of the militia are illegal, and should be prosecuted.

Trespassing on public land, meh.

Nope. That's text book seditious conspiracy. And carries a 20 year sentence.

 

[bodecea]

Full Story About What's Going on In Oregon - "Militia" Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to ...
The Last Refuge‎ - 2 days ago
(a) In 1964 the Hammonds' purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase ...

Breitbart......

 

[Vigilante]

OVER 60% of Oregon is FEDERAL LAND! WHY does the government OWN THIS LAND?

Because they've had it since we got Oregon from the UK.

Then SELL IT and PAY OFF PART OF OUR DEMORAT CAUSED DEBT!

 

[koshergrl]

OVER 60% of Oregon is FEDERAL LAND! WHY does the government OWN THIS LAND?

Because they stole it. With the assistance of statist limp wristed city dwellers under the pretense of wildlife protection...so that city dwelling losers can enjoy the parts of the country they can't afford to own and don't know how to manage.

 

[Skylar]

These men were tried, convicted, jailed and served their terms. Correct?

No. They were tried, convicted, jailed, and served a reduced sentence that an appeals court overturned. With the legally required sentence imposed instead.

With credit for time served.

With credit for time served.

 

[Vigilante]

Full Story About What's Going on In Oregon - "Militia" Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to ...
The Last Refuge‎ - 2 days ago
(a) In 1964 the Hammonds' purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase ...

Breitbart......

Yes The TRUTH you don't want to hear, unless it's the DemoRAT Underground... Bull Dyke!

 

[Skylar]

OVER 60% of Oregon is FEDERAL LAND! WHY does the government OWN THIS LAND?

Because they stole it. With the assistance of statist limp wristed city dwellers under the pretense of wildlife protection...so that city dwelling losers can enjoy the parts of the country they can't afford to own and don't know how to manage.

They stole it according to who? If any armed group of thugs can decide that they get to make the law.....you better hope no thugs like your house.

 

[Old Rocks]

You are rapidly putting yourself outside of that definition, Missouri. Harney County is not Missouri. It is all rural. The town of Burns is the only town in it, and has all of 7000 people, on a good day. The next town is Drewsey, which has maybe 30 people. It is 10,228 sq. mi. in size. Almost everybody knows everybody else. A jury of their peers convicted the Hammond's of setting those fires. They would not have done so without very convincing evidence. That is very dry country, and has had some extreme fires in the past decade, some of which have cost some ranchers as much as 1/3 of their herd. Setting those fires were acts of criminal negligence. The Hammond's were justly convicted, and served their time.

There should not be additional time added. And that is what the peaceful protest in Burns was all about.

We are totally on the same page to this point. But they did have time added...and nobody would have ever heard a peep about it outside of Harney County if it weren't for the militia...now it's a national headline in every major news outlet.

The actions of the militia are illegal, and should be prosecuted.

Civil disobedience is illegal. It is also a potent tool for bringing about political change. They should receive the same punishment Occupy Wall Streeters received for their civil disobedience.

This is where you say "But they are armed!" and I say "So what?"

I have been following this story for a while. I never expected an armed militia to show up and make it a sideshow.

The differance if the they are armed? If some armed asshole protesting something sticks a gun in my face, I may just blow the dumb fucks head off. These assholes threatened the local sheriff with death, and tried to push around an old couple, 74 and 78, at the American Legion. They could get nobody from Burns to take part in their illegal and seditious activities.