Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[JimBowie1958]

Oh? It was just a grass burn? You want to go with that? Sure?

It obviously was or you would make plain what you think it really was, idiot.

Well, let's look at the Facts, shall we?

'We Are Going to Light Up the Whole Country on Fire': The Arson That Led to the Oregon Militia Standoff | VICE News

Know what a "wildfire" is? Know what fast moving 8-10 foot high flames look like? Think it's ok to commit arson to cover up another crime? Think it's ok to commit arson and endanger firefighters already in the area?

Yawn, lol. Backfires are COMMON. The BLM and the property owners in that area are in a collaborative relationship...they help each other fight fires. BACKFIRES are a common and widely used method for controlling fires, and that is exactly what the Hammonds employed. Their backfire destroyed about 140 acres of scrub. The BLM is famous for torching tracts that destroy tens of thousands of acres, and destroy equipment, property, and livestock. This is nothing.

is arson to cover up poaching a common practice?

Arson can be used to destroy evidence sure, but what other evidence is there that the Hammonds did any poaching? Why would they when they owned plenty of their own land to hunt pests on?

 

[konradv]

Native Americans say, "Get the hell out. It's our land not yours."

Native tribe blasts Oregon takeover - CNN.com

 

[JimBowie1958]

He's entertaining in a "make fun of the idiot boy" kind of way.

This is as much fun as the thread in which he confused anyone who didn't believe in the Judeo-Christian god as being an Atheist. Millions if not Billions of Hindus, Buddhist, and Pagans are surprised to hear that.

Lol, and that is not what I said, you fucking liar.

 

[ogibillm]

Oh? It was just a grass burn? You want to go with that? Sure?

It obviously was or you would make plain what you think it really was, idiot.

Well, let's look at the Facts, shall we?

'We Are Going to Light Up the Whole Country on Fire': The Arson That Led to the Oregon Militia Standoff | VICE News

Know what a "wildfire" is? Know what fast moving 8-10 foot high flames look like? Think it's ok to commit arson to cover up another crime? Think it's ok to commit arson and endanger firefighters already in the area?

Yawn, lol. Backfires are COMMON. The BLM and the property owners in that area are in a collaborative relationship...they help each other fight fires. BACKFIRES are a common and widely used method for controlling fires, and that is exactly what the Hammonds employed. Their backfire destroyed about 140 acres of scrub. The BLM is famous for torching tracts that destroy tens of thousands of acres, and destroy equipment, property, and livestock. This is nothing.

is arson to cover up poaching a common practice?

Arson can be used to destroy evidence sure, but what other evidence is there that the Hammonds did any poaching? Why would they when they owned plenty of their own land to hunt pests on?

sworn testimony of relatives.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Native Americans say, "Get the hell out. It's our land not yours."

Native tribe blasts Oregon takeover - CNN.com

Bullshit. That land that is owned by the BLM is public property and owned by all citizens of this country.

How is quoting some lame ass pretend Indian supposed to help a damned thing?

 

[JimBowie1958]

It obviously was or you would make plain what you think it really was, idiot.

Well, let's look at the Facts, shall we?

'We Are Going to Light Up the Whole Country on Fire': The Arson That Led to the Oregon Militia Standoff | VICE News

Know what a "wildfire" is? Know what fast moving 8-10 foot high flames look like? Think it's ok to commit arson to cover up another crime? Think it's ok to commit arson and endanger firefighters already in the area?

Yawn, lol. Backfires are COMMON. The BLM and the property owners in that area are in a collaborative relationship...they help each other fight fires. BACKFIRES are a common and widely used method for controlling fires, and that is exactly what the Hammonds employed. Their backfire destroyed about 140 acres of scrub. The BLM is famous for torching tracts that destroy tens of thousands of acres, and destroy equipment, property, and livestock. This is nothing.

is arson to cover up poaching a common practice?

Arson can be used to destroy evidence sure, but what other evidence is there that the Hammonds did any poaching? Why would they when they owned plenty of their own land to hunt pests on?

sworn testimony of relatives.

You mean that teen kid who had mental problems and should not have been allowed to testify?

That kid?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Dont let the libtards obscure the central facts available with this post here.

Assholes making trouble in Oregon | Page 128 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[koshergrl]

So...where was the permission to light those backfires, Allie? You'd think that would be something that would come up in their defense.

So while a fire is approaching your property, you think that civilians have to file for a waiver first? No, they call the fire department then do the back fire.

You are a fucking idiot.

Hey, just a grass fire, Jimbo:
Maybe those homeowners would have been better off just lighting back fires, the hell with firefighters being in the area, eh?

I did not propose such a thing, you lying jack ass.

Ha I knew you were talking about bode even before I clicked on the "show ignored content" tab hahahaha

 

[koshergrl]

Well, let's look at the Facts, shall we?

'We Are Going to Light Up the Whole Country on Fire': The Arson That Led to the Oregon Militia Standoff | VICE News

Know what a "wildfire" is? Know what fast moving 8-10 foot high flames look like? Think it's ok to commit arson to cover up another crime? Think it's ok to commit arson and endanger firefighters already in the area?

Yawn, lol. Backfires are COMMON. The BLM and the property owners in that area are in a collaborative relationship...they help each other fight fires. BACKFIRES are a common and widely used method for controlling fires, and that is exactly what the Hammonds employed. Their backfire destroyed about 140 acres of scrub. The BLM is famous for torching tracts that destroy tens of thousands of acres, and destroy equipment, property, and livestock. This is nothing.

is arson to cover up poaching a common practice?

Arson can be used to destroy evidence sure, but what other evidence is there that the Hammonds did any poaching? Why would they when they owned plenty of their own land to hunt pests on?

sworn testimony of relatives.

You mean that teen kid who had mental problems and should not have been allowed to testify?

That kid?

The one whose testimony the original judge and jury dismissed as unreliable, biased and untruthful.

 

[konradv]

Native Americans say, "Get the hell out. It's our land not yours."Native tribe blasts Oregon takeover - CNN.com

Bullshit. That land that is owned by the BLM is public property and owned by all citizens of this country. How is quoting some lame ass pretend Indian supposed to help a damned thing?

The people doing the occupying say it's their land. There are differing opinions on that, other than the federal government's. How is getting the opinion of all sides a bad thing? Besides, the occupiers said, "if the locals want us to leave, we'll leave". Are they living up to their word or is that just bullshit?

 

[koshergrl]

The particular voice that demanded it be dragged into the ninth circus was a demented Obama appointee who has since been retired to the funny farm, after she approached a Mexican drug cartel member to kill a fellow bar member (that she had, incidentally, also been stalking).

Do you have a link to support your claim? So far you have not provided any link that I requested.

Oregon's top federal prosecutor traveled from commune to the corner office
UNBELIEVABLE Update - Oregon "Bundy Militia" Standoff - The U.S. Attorney At The Heart of The Hammond Family Problem...

So? The prosecutor is just doing her job. I see no problem there.

You asked me to link her lunacy, which I did. I'm glad you have no problem with nutjob stalkers.

And you still do not provide a link.

Mainly because you cannot find one.

I provided two.

 

[bodecea]

Oh? It was just a grass burn? You want to go with that? Sure?

It obviously was or you would make plain what you think it really was, idiot.

Well, let's look at the Facts, shall we?

'We Are Going to Light Up the Whole Country on Fire': The Arson That Led to the Oregon Militia Standoff | VICE News

Know what a "wildfire" is? Know what fast moving 8-10 foot high flames look like? Think it's ok to commit arson to cover up another crime? Think it's ok to commit arson and endanger firefighters already in the area?

Yawn, lol. Backfires are COMMON. The BLM and the property owners in that area are in a collaborative relationship...they help each other fight fires. BACKFIRES are a common and widely used method for controlling fires, and that is exactly what the Hammonds employed. Their backfire destroyed about 140 acres of scrub. The BLM is famous for torching tracts that destroy tens of thousands of acres, and destroy equipment, property, and livestock. This is nothing.

is arson to cover up poaching a common practice?

Maybe Allie or Jimbo can answer that one.

 

[bodecea]

Are you somehow so mentally challenged that you can't link the OPINION piece yourself?

Are you too stupid to follow links?

Of course I am....if you had paid attention I have already commented on the link in the link you provided. Of course, the question is.....why do you have to provide a link with an imbedded link? Why not just jump right to the National Review link? Duh.

Because it also gives a BUNCH OF OTHER LINKS, stupid fuck

So...you are just admitting you are lazy. Ok, no surprise there, Jimbo.

 

[bodecea]

Are you somehow so mentally challenged that you can't link the OPINION piece yourself?

Are you too stupid to follow links?

Of course I am....if you had paid attention I have already commented on the link in the link you provided. Of course, the question is.....why do you have to provide a link with an imbedded link? Why not just jump right to the National Review link? Duh.

Because it also gives a BUNCH OF OTHER LINKS, stupid fuck

To a bunch of other Neo-Clown sites! LOL!

You know.....smart, important sites....for smart people who know all about just being a grass fire stuff.

 

[bodecea]

He's entertaining in a "make fun of the idiot boy" kind of way.

This is as much fun as the thread in which he confused anyone who didn't believe in the Judeo-Christian god as being an Atheist. Millions if not Billions of Hindus, Buddhist, and Pagans are surprised to hear that.

Lol, and that is not what I said, you fucking liar.

Sure it is, Jimbo. You are just full of stupid on a daily basis. It's fun to laugh at.

 

[bodecea]

It obviously was or you would make plain what you think it really was, idiot.

Well, let's look at the Facts, shall we?

'We Are Going to Light Up the Whole Country on Fire': The Arson That Led to the Oregon Militia Standoff | VICE News

Know what a "wildfire" is? Know what fast moving 8-10 foot high flames look like? Think it's ok to commit arson to cover up another crime? Think it's ok to commit arson and endanger firefighters already in the area?

Yawn, lol. Backfires are COMMON. The BLM and the property owners in that area are in a collaborative relationship...they help each other fight fires. BACKFIRES are a common and widely used method for controlling fires, and that is exactly what the Hammonds employed. Their backfire destroyed about 140 acres of scrub. The BLM is famous for torching tracts that destroy tens of thousands of acres, and destroy equipment, property, and livestock. This is nothing.

is arson to cover up poaching a common practice?

Arson can be used to destroy evidence sure, but what other evidence is there that the Hammonds did any poaching? Why would they when they owned plenty of their own land to hunt pests on?

sworn testimony of relatives.

Denigrating the sworn testimony in 3....2...1...... (Even tho the defendants never denied doing that very thing)

 

[bodecea]

Native Americans say, "Get the hell out. It's our land not yours."

Native tribe blasts Oregon takeover - CNN.com

Bullshit. That land that is owned by the BLM is public property and owned by all citizens of this country.

How is quoting some lame ass pretend Indian supposed to help a damned thing?

There it is!

 

[bodecea]

Well, let's look at the Facts, shall we?

'We Are Going to Light Up the Whole Country on Fire': The Arson That Led to the Oregon Militia Standoff | VICE News

Know what a "wildfire" is? Know what fast moving 8-10 foot high flames look like? Think it's ok to commit arson to cover up another crime? Think it's ok to commit arson and endanger firefighters already in the area?

Yawn, lol. Backfires are COMMON. The BLM and the property owners in that area are in a collaborative relationship...they help each other fight fires. BACKFIRES are a common and widely used method for controlling fires, and that is exactly what the Hammonds employed. Their backfire destroyed about 140 acres of scrub. The BLM is famous for torching tracts that destroy tens of thousands of acres, and destroy equipment, property, and livestock. This is nothing.

is arson to cover up poaching a common practice?

Arson can be used to destroy evidence sure, but what other evidence is there that the Hammonds did any poaching? Why would they when they owned plenty of their own land to hunt pests on?

sworn testimony of relatives.

You mean that teen kid who had mental problems and should not have been allowed to testify?

That kid?

Kha-CHING!!!!!!!

 

[OldLady]

Anti-Constitution dopes claiming to be "protecting" the Constitution have criminally taken over possession of property owned by the citizens of America. The property they have taken over and are attempting to steal for redistribution under their misinterpretation is in fact, every American citizen's birthright ownership as stipulated and written into the Constitution by the founding fathers.

Property Clause Article lV Section 3 Clause 2

"The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States or of any particular state."

The founders recognized territories and wrote the ownership and control of those territories into the Constitution. The various states other than the first 13 colonies were territories before they became states. They became states understanding and accepting that unclaimed lands within their borders would remain the property of the United States. The new States did not have resources to protect or care for those lands. They were dependent on protection from US Military forces, Marshalls and courts and the creation of infrastructures and maintenance by federal funds and agencies.

The property currently being held in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon were a part of Oregon Territory and when Oregon became a state remained US property by virtue of its unclaimed ownership. Portions not acquired by Treaty with Paiute native Americans (in reality, all of it) or direct cash payments to privately owned ranches after Treaties were made with the Paiutes have been the public property of the United State since these various methods of acquiring the property.

annenbergclassroom.org/page/article-iv-section-3

heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/4/essays/126/property-clause

Funny you think government buildings are owned by the citizens

Funny you think they aren't.

Try to walk into a post office in the middle of the night to get your mail

You'll be slapped with a charge of felony trespass then you can explain to the judge that you own the post office and have the right to enter it whenever you want

I don't recall when it was that liberals/lefties became such Fascist ? and they've build up so much hate for their own fellow countrymen and women. it's damn ugly though
all this over a gawddam BUILDING

It is an old historical building built in the Great Depression and is the visitor center. Occupation by armed men prevents people from visiting the refuge. Why should we be providing utilities to these people? Plus, they are doing more than just occupying a building. They are using our ATV's, trucks, maintenance garage, tools, generators, fuel, etc.
Does not wanting strangers to come live in your house when you go away for a weekend or holiday make you a fascist? Would you be angry when you came home and a bunch of guys with semi-auto rifles told you they liked your place and had decided to stay for awhile?

I've changed my mind.

 

[koshergrl]

Oh? It was just a grass burn? You want to go with that? Sure?

It obviously was or you would make plain what you think it really was, idiot.

Well, let's look at the Facts, shall we?

'We Are Going to Light Up the Whole Country on Fire': The Arson That Led to the Oregon Militia Standoff | VICE News

Know what a "wildfire" is? Know what fast moving 8-10 foot high flames look like? Think it's ok to commit arson to cover up another crime? Think it's ok to commit arson and endanger firefighters already in the area?

Yawn, lol. Backfires are COMMON. The BLM and the property owners in that area are in a collaborative relationship...they help each other fight fires. BACKFIRES are a common and widely used method for controlling fires, and that is exactly what the Hammonds employed. Their backfire destroyed about 140 acres of scrub. The BLM is famous for torching tracts that destroy tens of thousands of acres, and destroy equipment, property, and livestock. This is nothing.

is arson to cover up poaching a common practice?

Who did that?

Oh that's right. Nobody.