Atheists Want Proof Of God?

[presonorek]

You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Everything you have comes from a book of fiction written by men who weren't even smart enough to invent toilet paper yet. Now go back to your housework.

Look, GOD is very real. Talk to Him Yourself. Tell HIM you don't believe in HIM. HE's big enough to handle your rejection. Ask HIM to please see HIS reality. Ask HIM to open your eyes! Tell HIM what need from HIM. If you are honest and not playing around, I firmly believe GOD will surprise you; however, you will have no excuses left. Be ready to accept HIM or be willing to accept the eternity you yourself have chosen. The ball is in your court.

Already did that, he never answered.

May I ask what you asked Him about?

I asked him to give me a sign that he exists. Never got anything.

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Never got anything.

that is true of anyone that has past away, because they do not communicate does not mean they never existed there would be chaos if there were direct exchange between physical and metaphysical states of existence. not necessarily responsiveness but a metaphysical network responsible from whence we came. does exist. and has rules.

Dead people don't want anything. God does. That means He really needs to tap into His omnipotent capabilities and give me a few coherent syllables so I can do what He wants.

 

[BreezeWood]

Look, GOD is very real. Talk to Him Yourself. Tell HIM you don't believe in HIM. HE's big enough to handle your rejection. Ask HIM to please see HIS reality. Ask HIM to open your eyes! Tell HIM what need from HIM. If you are honest and not playing around, I firmly believe GOD will surprise you; however, you will have no excuses left. Be ready to accept HIM or be willing to accept the eternity you yourself have chosen. The ball is in your court.

Already did that, he never answered.

May I ask what you asked Him about?

I asked him to give me a sign that he exists. Never got anything.

.

Never got anything.

that is true of anyone that has past away, because they do not communicate does not mean they never existed there would be chaos if there were direct exchange between physical and metaphysical states of existence. not necessarily responsiveness but a metaphysical network responsible from whence we came. does exist. and has rules.

Dead people don't want anything. God does. That means He really needs to tap into His omnipotent capabilities and give me a few coherent syllables so I can do what He wants.

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Dead people don't want anything. God does. That means He (they) really needs to tap into His (their) omnipotent capabilities and give me a few coherent syllables so I can do what He (they) wants.

Dead people don't want anything ...

if they are freed spirits and made the return trip to the Everlasting, no telling what they want.


- so I can do what they want.

the only requirement is to triumph good vs evil - there is not a whole lot more they can say.

 

[ding]

Look, GOD is very real. Talk to Him Yourself. Tell HIM you don't believe in HIM. HE's big enough to handle your rejection. Ask HIM to please see HIS reality. Ask HIM to open your eyes! Tell HIM what need from HIM. If you are honest and not playing around, I firmly believe GOD will surprise you; however, you will have no excuses left. Be ready to accept HIM or be willing to accept the eternity you yourself have chosen. The ball is in your court.

Already did that, he never answered.

May I ask what you asked Him about?

I asked him to give me a sign that he exists. Never got anything.

.

Never got anything.

that is true of anyone that has past away, because they do not communicate does not mean they never existed there would be chaos if there were direct exchange between physical and metaphysical states of existence. not necessarily responsiveness but a metaphysical network responsible from whence we came. does exist. and has rules.

Dead people don't want anything. God does. That means He really needs to tap into His omnipotent capabilities and give me a few coherent syllables so I can do what He wants.

Really? What does God want?

 

[Taz]

Already did that, he never answered.

May I ask what you asked Him about?

I asked him to give me a sign that he exists. Never got anything.

.

Never got anything.

that is true of anyone that has past away, because they do not communicate does not mean they never existed there would be chaos if there were direct exchange between physical and metaphysical states of existence. not necessarily responsiveness but a metaphysical network responsible from whence we came. does exist. and has rules.

Dead people don't want anything. God does. That means He really needs to tap into His omnipotent capabilities and give me a few coherent syllables so I can do what He wants.

Really? What does God want?

He wants you to stop speaking for him.

 

[ding]

May I ask what you asked Him about?

I asked him to give me a sign that he exists. Never got anything.

.

Never got anything.

that is true of anyone that has past away, because they do not communicate does not mean they never existed there would be chaos if there were direct exchange between physical and metaphysical states of existence. not necessarily responsiveness but a metaphysical network responsible from whence we came. does exist. and has rules.

Dead people don't want anything. God does. That means He really needs to tap into His omnipotent capabilities and give me a few coherent syllables so I can do what He wants.

Really? What does God want?

He wants you to stop speaking for him.

I agree. What words have I put in his mouth?

 

[Taz]

I asked him to give me a sign that he exists. Never got anything.

.

Never got anything.

that is true of anyone that has past away, because they do not communicate does not mean they never existed there would be chaos if there were direct exchange between physical and metaphysical states of existence. not necessarily responsiveness but a metaphysical network responsible from whence we came. does exist. and has rules.

Dead people don't want anything. God does. That means He really needs to tap into His omnipotent capabilities and give me a few coherent syllables so I can do what He wants.

Really? What does God want?

He wants you to stop speaking for him.

I agree. What words have I put in his mouth?

Your "no thing" malarkey, among others. He probably doesn't like to be called a no thing.

 

[beautress]

Doesn't bother me.

Why would it?

I don't take anything on faith. You want me to believe? Show me.

OK. But I'm pretty certain you ain't gonna like my opinion nor the way I express it:

 

[Crepitus]

Doesn't bother me.

Why would it?

I don't take anything on faith. You want me to believe? Show me.

OK. But I'm pretty certain you ain't gonna like my opinion nor the way I express it:

Don't be stupider than you have to be. None of those things is proof of the existence of goD.

 

[FA_Q2]

Doesn't bother me.

Why would it?

I don't take anything on faith. You want me to believe? Show me.

OK. But I'm pretty certain you ain't gonna like my opinion nor the way I express it:

Proof of God is reflected in a constitution that covers less than 5% of the people on earth today (not even referencing those in the past)?

 

[beautress]

Doesn't bother me.

Why would it?

I don't take anything on faith. You want me to believe? Show me.

OK. But I'm pretty certain you ain't gonna like my opinion nor the way I express it:

Don't be stupider than you have to be. None of those things is proof of the existence of goD.

Au Contraire, mon amie. The writers of the American Documentations were protestants all, and popular in their states/states-to-be. Including Thomas Jefferson who is widely lied about as being agnostic until we found his letter to his doctor that said that he was a Christian only in the way of Jesus Christ. Doh! That's as Christian as one can get. *sigh*

And since Christ was a Jewish Rabbi, both old and new testaments were based on Jewish cultural history, including the teachings of Christ to make clear that ordinary people could understand what God really wants his people to do: "To love your God with heart, mind, and spirit, and to love your neighbor as yourself." That is pretty much the essence of the Ten Commandments, and I could go all through them and explain why that is, but most people know, but I will take a shot at a couple of them:

3 - Keeping the Sabbath Holy -- attending corporate worship services, doing good deeds to widows, orphans, and those who mourn, resting and reflecting on dedicating your life more fully to serving other people, serving them better, not fretting too much, and encouraging others to look at the beautiful life God gave and working to keep it worth living for and picking up your own trash and promoting things like ocean clean-up so poor fishermen can continue to have healthym unblemished fish to sell at market that once provided protein for a third of the world population, but will end if we do not rid the surface of plastic which filters the sun out and wreaks havoc on every level of sea life in deadly ways. Other Sabbath activities could be looking on your own heart and making God's world a better place by giving a sad person a little bit of joy, giving a poor person tools that would help him fish, farm, or make a living somehow.

8 - Trying your best to avoid bearing false witness -- the kind of false witness that would take away a person's capacity for earning a living; false witness that would put an innocent person in jail; false witness that would discredit a person socially; false witness that would damage the relationship of 2 friends, false witness that would break up someone else's marriage; false witness that would place a low-iq person in jail for the duration of his life; and any other false witness that would harm another's well-being, life, or career opportunity; and false witness that would destroy a nation or bring genocide of a people.

These are things that God's people are generally encouraged to do. The beauty of Christ is he is the sacrificial lamb for us to maintain contact between man and God and between man to his brother man. As I understand it, and no, I am in no way a qualified minister, I just read the bible a lot to this day, and watch videos of what biblical scholars can give us. I know God requires us to allow him and him alone to judge others, and he likes it when we forgive others and ask God to bless them I have a lot of spiritual discs, and I divide them into scriptures; to scriptural stories that do not depart from the scriptures, nonscriptural stories that are consistent with the teachings of Christ; non-scriptural stories consistent with Mosaic Laws; discs that I cannot validate with scriptures that make claims that are not confirmed; discs that say they are based on scripture but fly in the face of right and wrong. I try not to make judgments, but some things, I just break the disc and throw in the trash because it is definitely not consistent with the Kingdom of God as I understand him, keeping in mind the words "now, we see through a glass, darkly, but then face-to-face," and I thank God for Jesus. That's about it. As I said, my heart's beliefs are not pleasing to those who espouse atheistic views for their own reasons. I do not take responsibility for those who blame religion for the world's ills, because I think unbelief in the merciful capacity that God's pure and simple love for mankind, whom he has given free will since the beginning. Religion is all about dealing with free will, accepting what we can't change as part of the world's diversity, and fixing what's broken if we can and being glad it is whole.

Time for my nap, and working on a charity project when I wake up. Bless you all and wishing you a happy heart.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The writers of the American Documentations were protestants all

Silly lie....

 

[beautress]

Doesn't bother me.

Why would it?

I don't take anything on faith. You want me to believe? Show me.

OK. But I'm pretty certain you ain't gonna like my opinion nor the way I express it:

Proof of God is reflected in a constitution that covers less than 5% of the people on earth today (not even referencing those in the past)?

Divide that 5% by two, I'm pretty sure the Constitution was written by men, who are a bit less than 50% of the population in years when there are no wars going on.

 

[beautress]

The writers of the American Documentations were protestants all

Silly lie....

To my knowledge it is so. All of them in the 13 original colonies were educated in Protestant churches to the best of what I know. If you are denying the influence of Christianity, you're only fooling yourself.

Even our bicameral Congress is based on a Protestant Church's governing system, influenced by signer, a Presbyterian minister, Rev. John Knox Witherspoon.

John Knox Witherspoon (February 5, 1723 – November 15, 1794) was a Scots Presbyterian minister and a signatory of the United States Declaration of Independence[1] as a representative of New Jersey. As president of the College of New Jersey (1768–94; now Princeton University), he trained many leaders of the early nation and was the only active clergyman and the only college president to sign the Declaration. John Witherspoon
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The signers:

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To the best of my knowledge, the gentlemen who signed the Declaration of Independence did so under the auspices of their agreed-upon credo, made known in their common prayer of all:

" ...Resolved, That it be recommended to all the United States, as soon as possible, to appoint a day of solemn fasting and humiliation; to implore of Almighty God the forgiveness of the many sins prevailing among all ranks, and to beg the countenance and assistance of his Providence in the prosecution of the present just and necessary war... "
– Congressional Prayer Proclamation
Journals of Congress, 6:1022
Source: Signers of the Declaration of Independence

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[Fort Fun Indiana]

To my knowledge it is so.

Then your knowledge on it is so limited that you shouldn't even be talking about it much less forming an opinion.

 

[beautress]

Doesn't bother me.

Why would it?

I don't take anything on faith. You want me to believe? Show me.

OK. But I'm pretty certain you ain't gonna like my opinion nor the way I express it:

Proof of God is reflected in a constitution that covers less than 5% of the people on earth today (not even referencing those in the past)?

Divide that 5% by two, I'm pretty sure the Constitution was written by men, who are a bit less than 50% of the population in years when there are no wars going on.

I'm going to add a list of the signers for your benefit, and if you can tell me which one or ones were not believers in God, Christ, or the Protestant/Colonial churches, please enlighten us with your own information of their absence of faith, won't you? My teachings, though, were pretty specific. If they weren't Christians there, that was not known to the early churches of the 13 colonies, all of which were believers in Christ, although they accepted as citizens people of all faiths and POVs. The signers were believed to be Protestants, and whatever, they prayed together to God's providence to help them oversee this new nation dedicated to the principles of freedom and brotherhood throughout the land, regardless of religion.

The Signers of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776​

Delaware: George Read | Caesar Rodney | Thomas McKean |

Pennsylvania: George Clymer | Benjamin Franklin | Robert Morris | John Morton | Benjamin Rush |George Ross | James Smith | James Wilson | George Taylor |

Massachusetts: John Adams | Samuel Adams | John Hancock | Robert Treat Paine | Elbridge Gerry

New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett | William Whipple | Matthew Thornton |

Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins | William Ellery |

New York: Lewis Morris | Philip Livingston | Francis Lewis | William Floyd |

Georgia: Button Gwinnett | Lyman Hall | George Walton |

Virginia: Richard Henry Lee | Francis Lightfoot Lee | Carter Braxton | Benjamin Harrison | Thomas Jefferson | George Wythe | Thomas Nelson, Jr. |

North Carolina: William Hooper | John Penn | Joseph Hewes

South Carolina: Edward Rutledge | Arthur Middleton | Thomas Lynch, Jr. | Thomas Heyward, Jr. |

New Jersey:Abraham Clark | John Hart | Francis Hopkinson | Richard Stockton | John Witherspoon |

Connecticut:Samuel Huntington | Roger Sherman | William Williams | Oliver Wolcott |

Maryland: Charles Carroll | Samuel Chase | Thomas Stone | William Paca |

 

[beautress]

To my knowledge it is so.

Then your knowledge on it is so limited that you shouldn't even be talking about it much less forming an opinion.

My historical opinions were formed when I studied my own church history 48 years ago when I attended church school teacher training. And our church (and my colonial forefather) came here with a few people who rallied around the Presbyterian church of Boston after moving from Plymouth Rock, where they landed sometime between 1618-1619, best of my recollection, since I never unpacked my family's genealogy history published in the last century, and is a 4-inch thick, fine print hard-covered book with my mother's generation being the last ones in print in that book. From one came many. OK, my grandfather, the son of a Pres. minister, taught me what was important to him about our shared faith, mostly Biblical lessons, all 66 books, plus he wrote up a contemporary addition to the great big book we already have, and that I have a copy of somewhere unknown to me...

I did discover on one website that I was mistaken about one thing. One of our Declaration signers was the very Jewish Haym Solomon, who was instrumental in finding funding for the last and final win over the Red Coat's scourge, by General Washington's barefoot army. I'm disappointed in myself for not noticing his name on the list in years past, because I learned of his story in or around 1998 when I got a copy of Arthur M. Schlesinger's book, "Almanac of American History" and found this peculiar story about how Haym bailed the Colonial Army out when it was at its lowest level of funding and near starvation and freezing winter in Valley Forge, and men had to wrap their feet in torn bed-cover strips since they wore their leather out long before then.

I apologize for my oversight on this wonderfully supportive patriot. I knew he worked himself into poverty funding the troops, but I did not know that he had signed the Declaration of Independence! If that was in Art's book, I sure missed it. Therefore, you are not entirely wrong about my shortcomings on knowledge. I have a lot more love for America than minutia knowledge of each and every signer. Why didn't you mention Haym Solomon?

 

[BreezeWood]

Doesn't bother me.

Why would it?

I don't take anything on faith. You want me to believe? Show me.

OK. But I'm pretty certain you ain't gonna like my opinion nor the way I express it:

Proof of God is reflected in a constitution that covers less than 5% of the people on earth today (not even referencing those in the past)?

Divide that 5% by two, I'm pretty sure the Constitution was written by men, who are a bit less than 50% of the population in years when there are no wars going on.

I'm going to add a list of the signers for your benefit, and if you can tell me which one or ones were not believers in God, Christ, or the Protestant/Colonial churches, please enlighten us with your own information of their absence of faith, won't you? My teachings, though, were pretty specific. If they weren't Christians there, that was not known to the early churches of the 13 colonies, all of which were believers in Christ, although they accepted as citizens people of all faiths and POVs. The signers were believed to be Protestants, and whatever, they prayed together to God's providence to help them oversee this new nation dedicated to the principles of freedom and brotherhood throughout the land, regardless of religion.

The Signers of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776​

Delaware: George Read | Caesar Rodney | Thomas McKean |

Pennsylvania: George Clymer | Benjamin Franklin | Robert Morris | John Morton | Benjamin Rush |George Ross | James Smith | James Wilson | George Taylor |

Massachusetts: John Adams | Samuel Adams | John Hancock | Robert Treat Paine | Elbridge Gerry

New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett | William Whipple | Matthew Thornton |

Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins | William Ellery |

New York: Lewis Morris | Philip Livingston | Francis Lewis | William Floyd |

Georgia: Button Gwinnett | Lyman Hall | George Walton |

Virginia: Richard Henry Lee | Francis Lightfoot Lee | Carter Braxton | Benjamin Harrison | Thomas Jefferson | George Wythe | Thomas Nelson, Jr. |

North Carolina: William Hooper | John Penn | Joseph Hewes

South Carolina: Edward Rutledge | Arthur Middleton | Thomas Lynch, Jr. | Thomas Heyward, Jr. |

New Jersey:Abraham Clark | John Hart | Francis Hopkinson | Richard Stockton | John Witherspoon |

Connecticut:Samuel Huntington | Roger Sherman | William Williams | Oliver Wolcott |

Maryland: Charles Carroll | Samuel Chase | Thomas Stone | William Paca |

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and if you can tell me which one or ones were not believers in God, Christ, or the Protestant/Colonial churches, please enlighten us with your own information of their absence of faith

there is no mention of the christian bible or the false messiah religion found anywhere in any gov't document of the united states - an endorsement by the theists of an Almighty is purely secular.

 

[beautress]

To my knowledge it is so.

Then your knowledge on it is so limited that you shouldn't even be talking about it much less forming an opinion.

My father was an educator. He said if you do not make mistakes, you do not learn anything. It's too bad you're in the mode of hating half the Americans citizens who offended you by supporting and/or voting for President Trump.

I guess when you're under the gun by Party bossies like Maxine Waters who instructs you to harass Republicans, you're to harass them here at USMB, also.

I thank God for my dear friends here who believe in voting and living with the results if the precinct chairmen have been truthful. But when the person outside a precinct counts that 2500 people came and left, and the count is 5000, something is fishy, and it is not from the sea.

 

[beautress]

Doesn't bother me.

Why would it?

I don't take anything on faith. You want me to believe? Show me.

OK. But I'm pretty certain you ain't gonna like my opinion nor the way I express it:

Proof of God is reflected in a constitution that covers less than 5% of the people on earth today (not even referencing those in the past)?

Divide that 5% by two, I'm pretty sure the Constitution was written by men, who are a bit less than 50% of the population in years when there are no wars going on.

I'm going to add a list of the signers for your benefit, and if you can tell me which one or ones were not believers in God, Christ, or the Protestant/Colonial churches, please enlighten us with your own information of their absence of faith, won't you? My teachings, though, were pretty specific. If they weren't Christians there, that was not known to the early churches of the 13 colonies, all of which were believers in Christ, although they accepted as citizens people of all faiths and POVs. The signers were believed to be Protestants, and whatever, they prayed together to God's providence to help them oversee this new nation dedicated to the principles of freedom and brotherhood throughout the land, regardless of religion.

The Signers of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776​

Delaware: George Read | Caesar Rodney | Thomas McKean |

Pennsylvania: George Clymer | Benjamin Franklin | Robert Morris | John Morton | Benjamin Rush |George Ross | James Smith | James Wilson | George Taylor |

Massachusetts: John Adams | Samuel Adams | John Hancock | Robert Treat Paine | Elbridge Gerry

New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett | William Whipple | Matthew Thornton |

Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins | William Ellery |

New York: Lewis Morris | Philip Livingston | Francis Lewis | William Floyd |

Georgia: Button Gwinnett | Lyman Hall | George Walton |

Virginia: Richard Henry Lee | Francis Lightfoot Lee | Carter Braxton | Benjamin Harrison | Thomas Jefferson | George Wythe | Thomas Nelson, Jr. |

North Carolina: William Hooper | John Penn | Joseph Hewes

South Carolina: Edward Rutledge | Arthur Middleton | Thomas Lynch, Jr. | Thomas Heyward, Jr. |

New Jersey:Abraham Clark | John Hart | Francis Hopkinson | Richard Stockton | John Witherspoon |

Connecticut:Samuel Huntington | Roger Sherman | William Williams | Oliver Wolcott |

Maryland: Charles Carroll | Samuel Chase | Thomas Stone | William Paca |

.

and if you can tell me which one or ones were not believers in God, Christ, or the Protestant/Colonial churches, please enlighten us with your own information of their absence of faith

there is no mention of the christian bible or the false messiah religion found anywhere in any gov't document of the united states - an endorsement by the theists of an Almighty is purely secular.

I just provided one above. Take a speedreading course. It is only a semester single credit, but it will change your life in comprehension unless you're not here to debate, but to cram some false narrative down a Republican throat or two.

 

[ding]

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that is true of anyone that has past away, because they do not communicate does not mean they never existed there would be chaos if there were direct exchange between physical and metaphysical states of existence. not necessarily responsiveness but a metaphysical network responsible from whence we came. does exist. and has rules.

Dead people don't want anything. God does. That means He really needs to tap into His omnipotent capabilities and give me a few coherent syllables so I can do what He wants.

Really? What does God want?

He wants you to stop speaking for him.

I agree. What words have I put in his mouth?

Your "no thing" malarkey, among others. He probably doesn't like to be called a no thing.

He goes by I Am.

How is it malarkey?

Matter and energy as we know it can not exist outside of space and time because matter and energy create space and time.