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I have my bumpstock. It's called a belt loop.
Ban belt loops and rubber bands! I will not rest until we have banned anything that could be used to kill.
Dang, there goes my pencil!
Not bad.
Haven't heard anyone mention any real solutions yet though. Unless you honestly don't think the U.S. has a gun problem, despite our outrageously high rate of gun violence for a Western nation.
No.Yes or no?
Does anyone need a sports car with a 300hp engine capable of reaching 120mph?Why not? They have no real purpose except mass murder. You can't aim for shit with them, but you don't need accuracy when you're firing into a crowd. You certainly wouldn't use them to hunt or for defense, as you're as likely to shoot your neighbor as you are the home invader.
Why not? They have no real purpose except mass murder. You can't aim for shit with them, but you don't need accuracy when you're firing into a crowd. You certainly wouldn't use them to hunt or for defense, as you're as likely to shoot your neighbor as you are the home invader.
No. They should not be banned. (And no, I do not have one)
1). Because ONE person used a car to ram into a crowd would we talk of banning cars? Don't let ONE persons actions dictate the law of the land.
2) The slippery slope syndrome....You allow them to ban ONE thing....and they will smell blood and get on a roll.
It would fuel their anti-Constitutional hysteria. If they acheive this, they will later say...."See? So and so was banned and it's the same thing" (even if it's totally different. They lie).... So NO
3). Bumpstocks scare the freaking SHIT out of Democrats who are already afraid of guns to begin with. If every American had one they'd be less likely to pull the corrupt shit they pull in Washington etc.
4). Statistically, I have ZERO fear of being gunned down by some fool with a bumpstock. Likewise, statistically, I have MUCH more to fear from teenagers texting while driving.
Banning bumpstocks is fucking pointless.
Have you seen them?
It's basically just a fancy plastic stock. You could make a similar contraption in your garage.
No.Yes or no?
Because only the law-abiding will comply with the law.
Automatic weapons are illegal without proper permits.
Anything that allows a semi automatic to mimic an automatic weapon should be regulated the same way.
Because ... they are tools of mass murder. Vehicles are tools of transportation. The first serves only one purpose ... well, two if you count dicking around in target practice with a half-assed fully automatic. The second keeps society from falling apart.
Just because you're much more likely to die in a car wreck or from eating too many hamburgers doesn't mean we shouldn't try and shave off that extra 0.00001% chance of being gunned down at a concert by some lunatic spraying hundreds of rounds.
Here we go again.No.Yes or no?
Because only the law-abiding will comply with the law.
Then why have laws against ANYTHING?
What's more is that you do not need a bump stock to bump fire a semiautomatic rifleWhy not? They have no real purpose except mass murder. You can't aim for shit with them, but you don't need accuracy when you're firing into a crowd. You certainly wouldn't use them to hunt or for defense, as you're as likely to shoot your neighbor as you are the home invader.
Owing a gun is a right. Since it is a right, there is no requirement to show a need or purpose for owning one. Banning bumpstocks will have no effect on crazy or evil people using bumpstocks to do bad things. I just googled how to make a bumpstocks, and guess what, there are videos on the internet which show how to make a bumpstock. People who want to commit murder are criminals and therefore do not obey laws. As a country, we need to deal with the people who commit crimes, not the tools they employ to commit them.
Huh. No kidding,
As a Marine, I was trained to use fully automatic weapons (and a grenade launcher) for defensive purposes.
Go figger.
In a military setting? Sure. In your house? Probably not your go-to weapon. At least, I'd be very surprised to hear a marine tell me they need a machine gun for self-defense. Because the marines I know would laugh at the suggestion.
I may not NEED ANY guns for self defense.
Thankfully, my right to own them and even to use them if it comes down to it is not a right that is contingent upon my "need."
It is far better to own a gun and know how to use it than to ever "need" one and not have it and though it is extremely unlikely it will ever happen, that would include having access to the very weapons you shit your pants over the most.
Why are you acting like I'm some 2nd-amendment hating flag-burner dude? I'm just having a conversation here.
You don't seem to be cognizant of what the purpose of the 2nd Amendment really is.
A well-regulated militia. The right to keep and bear arms.
A well-regulated militia.
A well-regulated ...
Well-regulated ...
The 2nd amendment does not give you the right to have any weapon you damn well please. It gives you the right to bear arms. Not all and any arms, but arms.
No it didn't act like an automatic. The trigger was pulled for every round fired that is by definition a semiautomaticDid I say guns are only for murder? No. I said fully-automatic guns are. Or at least I heavily implied it. Good for clearing a room and suppressing fire and that's about it.
These were not fully automatic weapons, as has been said here several times.
When was the last time a fully automatic weapon was used in a crime in the US?
Why not?
They were modified to act similarly to a fully automatic.
I'm a little worried we might see more attacks like this now, seeing how "successful" it was. Pretty easy to kill a lot of people with a gun like that. Just post up somewhere when people are gathered together and pop as many as you can.
The next time it will probably be a Muslim terrorist. Then all the people here will be outraged even though they are suspiciously quiet about the old white guy.
I have my bumpstock. It's called a belt loop.
Ban belt loops and rubber bands! I will not rest until we have banned anything that could be used to kill.
I have my bumpstock. It's called a belt loop.
Ban belt loops and rubber bands! I will not rest until we have banned anything that could be used to kill.
Dang, there goes my pencil!
The Constitution doesn't "give" rights. The Framers were of the mind that all those guaranteed rights exist no matter what
The Constitution doesn't "give" rights. The Framers were of the mind that all those guaranteed rights exist no matter what
The problem is, there are no rights.
There are privileges that the rest of society thinks you should have.
Any fool who thinks he has rights needs to look up "Japanese-Americans, 1942"
That's how fast rights can disappear.
so the real question is, why does the 80% of the population who don't own guns need to let the 20% who do own them have the privilege of owning them?
Especially giving the cost of that privilege is 33,000 deaths, 78,000 injuries and 400,000 gun crimes every year.
So what is the benefit?
That they stop crime? No evidence of that at all, no matter how many wishful studies the NRA puts out....
That they would prevent a "dictatorship". Also bullshit. Lots of countries banned guns and democracy was just fine, thank you.
Here we go again.No.Yes or no?
Because only the law-abiding will comply with the law.
Then why have laws against ANYTHING?
We have laws so that we can punish people after they commit an illegal act. Laws do not, have not ever and will not ever prevent anyone from committing a crime.
No it didn't act like an automatic. The trigger was pulled for every round fired that is by definition a semiautomaticDid I say guns are only for murder? No. I said fully-automatic guns are. Or at least I heavily implied it. Good for clearing a room and suppressing fire and that's about it.
These were not fully automatic weapons, as has been said here several times.
When was the last time a fully automatic weapon was used in a crime in the US?
Why not?
They were modified to act similarly to a fully automatic.
I'm a little worried we might see more attacks like this now, seeing how "successful" it was. Pretty easy to kill a lot of people with a gun like that. Just post up somewhere when people are gathered together and pop as many as you can.
The next time it will probably be a Muslim terrorist. Then all the people here will be outraged even though they are suspiciously quiet about the old white guy.
All the bump stock does is pull the trigger faster
No it didn't act like an automatic. The trigger was pulled for every round fired that is by definition a semiautomaticDid I say guns are only for murder? No. I said fully-automatic guns are. Or at least I heavily implied it. Good for clearing a room and suppressing fire and that's about it.
These were not fully automatic weapons, as has been said here several times.
When was the last time a fully automatic weapon was used in a crime in the US?
Why not?
They were modified to act similarly to a fully automatic.
I'm a little worried we might see more attacks like this now, seeing how "successful" it was. Pretty easy to kill a lot of people with a gun like that. Just post up somewhere when people are gathered together and pop as many as you can.
The next time it will probably be a Muslim terrorist. Then all the people here will be outraged even though they are suspiciously quiet about the old white guy.
All the bump stock does is pull the trigger faster
A semi-auto requires you to pull the trigger for each shot. The bump stock pulls the trigger FOR you. That makes it an automatic.
It's interesting how so many rightwing fanatics, on any issue, are attracted to USMB.
