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Ben Carson did research on 17 week fetal tissue

The Romney video was nothing more than recording what Romney said. The PP video was manipulating the conversation to make it sound a specific way. No where near the same.

The mental exercises you are trying to do to somehow not have to consider and counter what is in the videos is almost comical. These Videos also did nothing but record what the PP people were saying, and by the way they responded, it seems they have heard these questions before. That they were misled does not discredit in any way what they said. The people were pretending to be people interested in tissue samples. by the way the conversations went, this seems to be something that has happened before.


I'm sure tissue samples have been discussed many times before. Exactly which part showed non adherence to any law?

Three questions so far:

1. Did the money made from the tissue exceed the cost of procuring it?
2. Did any PP doctor change their procedure to make getting said tissue easier/get more intact samples?
3. Was some tissue procured without the consent of the patient?

You could have easily added

4. Was Bigfoot involved in any way, or does this have something to do with the WTC attack?

There is just as much evidence for the fourth as there is for the first three,

Have you actually watched the videos? All of those topics were discussed at one point or another.

You can only dodge and dismiss so much before you start looking desperate, and you crossed that line 3 posts ago.


I watched one. No need to watch any more. What do you think a legitimate tissue collection business would discuss? The makers of the video are losing their non profit status for several irregularities in their claims. Nothing more legitimate than that liar that brought down Acorn.
 
The mental exercises you are trying to do to somehow not have to consider and counter what is in the videos is almost comical. These Videos also did nothing but record what the PP people were saying, and by the way they responded, it seems they have heard these questions before. That they were misled does not discredit in any way what they said. The people were pretending to be people interested in tissue samples. by the way the conversations went, this seems to be something that has happened before.


I'm sure tissue samples have been discussed many times before. Exactly which part showed non adherence to any law?

Three questions so far:

1. Did the money made from the tissue exceed the cost of procuring it?
2. Did any PP doctor change their procedure to make getting said tissue easier/get more intact samples?
3. Was some tissue procured without the consent of the patient?

You could have easily added

4. Was Bigfoot involved in any way, or does this have something to do with the WTC attack?

There is just as much evidence for the fourth as there is for the first three,

Have you actually watched the videos? All of those topics were discussed at one point or another.

You can only dodge and dismiss so much before you start looking desperate, and you crossed that line 3 posts ago.


I watched one. No need to watch any more. What do you think a legitimate tissue collection business would discuss? The makers of the video are losing their non profit status for several irregularities in their claims. Nothing more legitimate than that liar that brought down Acorn.

Again, attacking the messenger, and you only watched one. Your pre-determined mind probably filtered out what you didn't want to hear anyway.

Willful ignorance is a comforting blanket for people who don't like their own beliefs questioned.
 
The FDA Approved procedures for removing donated tissue, should be followed...outside of that (and the cold and calculated demeanor of the docs which is present in all Docs doing or supporting research imho) I don't see where the problem lies?

As far as research done on tissue samples of discarded human waste from surgeries, the Supreme Court RULED the discarded human tissue was the property of the hospital doing the surgery....and the patient did not have to give approval for the specimen of their tissue being used....so, it appears, that this is NOT illegal.
 
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Not just human but animal fetuses as well..........and the animals have less choice than the woman.
Women are not given abortions for the tissue any more, but the tissue resulting of the abortion can be donated instead of disposed of as waste.

Even with the advances in birth control, sometimes it fails. Even with the advances in medicine, sometimes the fetus is a treat to the woman or will die during treatment to save her life. There are many reasons for the need if an abortion. Each woman has the right and the responsibility to make the choice for what is best for her.

Cancer or organ failure are major reasons for abortion, including late term. They might well have wanted children but if she is to stay alive, it is not possible for have both.

There are cases of rape as well that might not go reported till the woman/girl finds out she is pregnant.

The reason for the abortion is not your concern, nor what happens to the tissue from the abortion.

.......and no it is not used as an additive in foods for taste or color by major food companies. That lie has been floated on the disinformation internet as well. Why apeople would believe such a think shows their gullibility to believe anything.


the illegal sale of fetal certainly is my concern

Tissue of fetus are donate. It is not a sale. Prices if handling and transport can run in the hundred of any tissue, fluid or blood from humans. That is common from hospital, clinic or doctor's office to a lab.

stop your lying
 

Not just human but animal fetuses as well..........and the animals have less choice than the woman.
Women are not given abortions for the tissue any more, but the tissue resulting of the abortion can be donated instead of disposed of as waste.

Even with the advances in birth control, sometimes it fails. Even with the advances in medicine, sometimes the fetus is a treat to the woman or will die during treatment to save her life. There are many reasons for the need if an abortion. Each woman has the right and the responsibility to make the choice for what is best for her.

Cancer or organ failure are major reasons for abortion, including late term. They might well have wanted children but if she is to stay alive, it is not possible for have both.

There are cases of rape as well that might not go reported till the woman/girl finds out she is pregnant.

The reason for the abortion is not your concern, nor what happens to the tissue from the abortion.

.......and no it is not used as an additive in foods for taste or color by major food companies. That lie has been floated on the disinformation internet as well. Why apeople would believe such a think shows their gullibility to believe anything.


the illegal sale of fetal certainly is my concern

Tissue of fetus are donate. It is not a sale. Prices if handling and transport can run in the hundred of any tissue, fluid or blood from humans. That is common from hospital, clinic or doctor's office to a lab.

stop your lying


Shipping Transport of Biological Materials Environmental Health Safety University of Florida
http://www.oseh.umich.edu/pdf/update iata-dot regulations 06.pdf
Shipping and Transporting Biological Substances
Issues in collecting processing and storing human tissues and associated information to support biomedical research

PP does not sell the tissue. Some labs will sell tissue to other labs for a few thousand per hundred cells. That takes place separately and apart from PP. Bio transport have various charges in the hundreds for test tube, vial, box, bag, etc.
It maybe everyone except PP is making a profit on the tissue. It is legal, CDC authorized this and it has been common practice for decades, not just the US but around the world.

Why are people suddenly in a twist over this? Yes, adult livers are a premium for labs.

Fetal tissue saves time and are more accurate than adult of animal testing.

The High Cost of Rare Disease Drugs Insight Intelligence 153 GEN

Cost is important for orphan drug as well as getting them to those in need of them faster.
 

Not just human but animal fetuses as well..........and the animals have less choice than the woman.
Women are not given abortions for the tissue any more, but the tissue resulting of the abortion can be donated instead of disposed of as waste.

Even with the advances in birth control, sometimes it fails. Even with the advances in medicine, sometimes the fetus is a treat to the woman or will die during treatment to save her life. There are many reasons for the need if an abortion. Each woman has the right and the responsibility to make the choice for what is best for her.

Cancer or organ failure are major reasons for abortion, including late term. They might well have wanted children but if she is to stay alive, it is not possible for have both.

There are cases of rape as well that might not go reported till the woman/girl finds out she is pregnant.

The reason for the abortion is not your concern, nor what happens to the tissue from the abortion.

.......and no it is not used as an additive in foods for taste or color by major food companies. That lie has been floated on the disinformation internet as well. Why apeople would believe such a think shows their gullibility to believe anything.


the illegal sale of fetal certainly is my concern

Tissue of fetus are donate. It is not a sale. Prices if handling and transport can run in the hundred of any tissue, fluid or blood from humans. That is common from hospital, clinic or doctor's office to a lab.


Yeah...keep telling yourself that, wait till someone cracks open their books, we'll see what they have been doing.....
 

Not just human but animal fetuses as well..........and the animals have less choice than the woman.
Women are not given abortions for the tissue any more, but the tissue resulting of the abortion can be donated instead of disposed of as waste.

Even with the advances in birth control, sometimes it fails. Even with the advances in medicine, sometimes the fetus is a treat to the woman or will die during treatment to save her life. There are many reasons for the need if an abortion. Each woman has the right and the responsibility to make the choice for what is best for her.

Cancer or organ failure are major reasons for abortion, including late term. They might well have wanted children but if she is to stay alive, it is not possible for have both.

There are cases of rape as well that might not go reported till the woman/girl finds out she is pregnant.

The reason for the abortion is not your concern, nor what happens to the tissue from the abortion.

.......and no it is not used as an additive in foods for taste or color by major food companies. That lie has been floated on the disinformation internet as well. Why apeople would believe such a think shows their gullibility to believe anything.


the illegal sale of fetal certainly is my concern

Tissue of fetus are donate. It is not a sale. Prices if handling and transport can run in the hundred of any tissue, fluid or blood from humans. That is common from hospital, clinic or doctor's office to a lab.


Yeah...keep telling yourself that, wait till someone cracks open their books, we'll see what they have been doing.....
Yeah like Benghazi!
 

Not just human but animal fetuses as well..........and the animals have less choice than the woman.
Women are not given abortions for the tissue any more, but the tissue resulting of the abortion can be donated instead of disposed of as waste.

Even with the advances in birth control, sometimes it fails. Even with the advances in medicine, sometimes the fetus is a treat to the woman or will die during treatment to save her life. There are many reasons for the need if an abortion. Each woman has the right and the responsibility to make the choice for what is best for her.

Cancer or organ failure are major reasons for abortion, including late term. They might well have wanted children but if she is to stay alive, it is not possible for have both.

There are cases of rape as well that might not go reported till the woman/girl finds out she is pregnant.

The reason for the abortion is not your concern, nor what happens to the tissue from the abortion.

.......and no it is not used as an additive in foods for taste or color by major food companies. That lie has been floated on the disinformation internet as well. Why apeople would believe such a think shows their gullibility to believe anything.


the illegal sale of fetal certainly is my concern

Tissue of fetus are donate. It is not a sale. Prices if handling and transport can run in the hundred of any tissue, fluid or blood from humans. That is common from hospital, clinic or doctor's office to a lab.


Yeah...keep telling yourself that, wait till someone cracks open their books, we'll see what they have been doing.....
Yeah like Benghazi!


Well....perhaps if hilary hadn't had an illegal private server we would know more.......
 
probes -- in Georgia, Indiana, Massachusetts and South Dakota -- have found area Planned Parenthood affiliates to be in full compliance with state laws and regulations. “In every state where these investigations have concluded, officials have cleared Planned Parenthood of any wrongdoing," said Dawn Laguens, executive vice president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, in a statement Friday. "We've said all along that Planned Parenthood follows all laws and has very high medical standards, and that's what every one of these investigations has found. This campaign by anti-abortion extremists is nothing less than a fraud, intended to deceive the public with patently false claims in order to pursue an extreme political agenda
States Try To Dig Up Planned Parenthood Violations Fail Miserably
 
While opining on the uselessness of fetal tissue research to Megyn Kelly Dr. Carson neglected to mention his own paper Colloid Cysts of the Third Ventricle: Immunohistochemical evidence for nonneuropithelial differentiation published in Hum Pathol 23:811-816 in 1992. The materials and methods describe using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”

Yes, Dr. Ben Carson has done research on fetal tissue and published his findings. His name is on the paper so that means he had a substantive role in the research and supports the methods and findings.

How does one explain this given Carson’s stand on fetal tissue research?

Perhaps Dr. Carson feels that only his work delivered the goods and all other researchers have produced inconsequential work, an Ebola vaccine clearly not of merit by Carson’s logic.

Could he think his own research was useless? However, if it was non contributory to the field why was it published?

More: Ben Carson did research on 17 week fetal tissue - Dr. Jen Gunter

Did Carson forget about his research on fetal tissue?
Pure bullshit lies from the lying left. Retarded injun.
 
While opining on the uselessness of fetal tissue research to Megyn Kelly Dr. Carson neglected to mention his own paper Colloid Cysts of the Third Ventricle: Immunohistochemical evidence for nonneuropithelial differentiation published in Hum Pathol 23:811-816 in 1992. The materials and methods describe using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”

Yes, Dr. Ben Carson has done research on fetal tissue and published his findings. His name is on the paper so that means he had a substantive role in the research and supports the methods and findings.

How does one explain this given Carson’s stand on fetal tissue research?

Perhaps Dr. Carson feels that only his work delivered the goods and all other researchers have produced inconsequential work, an Ebola vaccine clearly not of merit by Carson’s logic.

Could he think his own research was useless? However, if it was non contributory to the field why was it published?

More: Ben Carson did research on 17 week fetal tissue - Dr. Jen Gunter

Did Carson forget about his research on fetal tissue?
Pure bullshit lies from the lying left. Retarded injun.
Days late and a million brain cells short.
 
Did Carson buy the remains from PP or were they obtained legally?


You're clueless.

Hospitals do exactly the same as PP does. Deal with it.

Really, I find it hard to believe you fools haven't known this all along. Idiots.

My bet is you did know. The only reason for the attacks on PP is they serve the poor.
Libtards are clueless and LIARS, liar.
 
While opining on the uselessness of fetal tissue research to Megyn Kelly Dr. Carson neglected to mention his own paper Colloid Cysts of the Third Ventricle: Immunohistochemical evidence for nonneuropithelial differentiation published in Hum Pathol 23:811-816 in 1992. The materials and methods describe using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”

Yes, Dr. Ben Carson has done research on fetal tissue and published his findings. His name is on the paper so that means he had a substantive role in the research and supports the methods and findings.

How does one explain this given Carson’s stand on fetal tissue research?

Perhaps Dr. Carson feels that only his work delivered the goods and all other researchers have produced inconsequential work, an Ebola vaccine clearly not of merit by Carson’s logic.

Could he think his own research was useless? However, if it was non contributory to the field why was it published?

More: Ben Carson did research on 17 week fetal tissue - Dr. Jen Gunter

Did Carson forget about his research on fetal tissue?
Pure bullshit lies from the lying left. Retarded injun.
Days late and a million brain cells short.
Yes you are retarded scum sucker.
 
Did Carson buy the remains from PP or were they obtained legally?


You're clueless.

Hospitals do exactly the same as PP does. Deal with it.

Really, I find it hard to believe you fools haven't known this all along. Idiots.

My bet is you did know. The only reason for the attacks on PP is they serve the poor.
It also exhibits the right's contempt for privacy rights, and their desire to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty.
 

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