Ben Carson refers to himself as a "scientist".

[PK1]

Why can't be Carlson refer to himself as a scientist? He does have a phd for god sake!

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No. he does not have a "phd" for god sake or your own.

For the record, i like sake.
.

 

[Dot Com]

How is he going to walk this back

 

[BULLDOG]

Actually, the intense physics and chemistry and statistics that MDs are required to learn are VERY applicable to portions of archaeology, and meteorology for example. In some cases, they understand SOME of the fundamentals BETTER than folks practicing in that field.

That is pure baloney!

For example, in Physics MD get a survey course that does not even use Calculus, and you really believe they understand Physics without knowing Calculus. The only intense science they study is Anatomy and Physiology.

They don't take Chemistry ?

They do, both General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry, but again it a watered down version no where as demanding as what a Chemistry Major would take.[/QUOTE

Actually, the intense physics and chemistry and statistics that MDs are required to learn are VERY applicable to portions of archaeology, and meteorology for example. In some cases, they understand SOME of the fundamentals BETTER than folks practicing in that field.

That is pure baloney!

For example, in Physics MD get a survey course that does not even use Calculus, and you really believe they understand Physics without knowing Calculus. The only intense science they study is Anatomy & Physiology.

Sure chief. Whatever you say. I have no fucking idea how that MRI thingy that I am putting you into tonight works. I just want to see the pretty flashing lights. Never heard about xrays. And I really can't explain to you why that barium milkshake ain't gonna make your junk green. Don't know the diff between an alcohol and an ester. And I'll never know how to evaluate the statistics of the studies for that drug I just injected you with..

Because like Esd the cynic says. I am not a scientist. I am just an anatomy ex0ert. And may I tell ya ma'am you have a lovely anatomy. Get off the boat junior.

Are you trying to claim the Physics you took required you to have Calculus as a prerequisite?
If so, I call BULLSHIT!

You r absurd and unessarily argumentàtive. Just TRY to get añ invite into a med school without ever taking calculus...

Or go look at the guidance recommendations for prre med at a top rank school. If you didn't take calculus in high school or as a freshman. You're not a serious candidate to be an MD. I was pre med. With concentration on engineering. Other pre meds thought I was nuts.

Medical School Entrance Requirements
College work in mathematics is required by some medical schools and recommended by almost all. A very few medical schools require one year of calculus. Also, a very few require one semester of statistics. See the book Medical School Admissions Requirements or individual medical schools’ web pages to verify premedical requirements.

So a year of calculus and a semester of physics makes you a scientist?

 

[kaz]

Strawman, moron

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You don't know what a straw man fallacy is, "moron".
In case you have not noticed, i cited quotes from the horses' mouths to provide context for accurate understanding of their meaning.
However, you don't care about that; you only care about cherry picking words out of context to twist their meaning.
Talk about "strawman" ... LOL.
.

Again, your reading skills are dreadful. that isn't what I said, I said the ridiculous crap you made up and attributed to me was a strawman.

Here's how you know that's what I meant, it's what you said in the post I responded to.

If the dog was on the table licking your plate, you wouldn't be able to figure out what happened to your dinner...

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So, you admit you did not read what Cerf said? If you did, you surely did not understand the overall CONTEXT of Gore's statement, or most likely, you are playing political cherry-picking games, which reflects lame debators.

A moron does not understand the difference between taking an initiative to create something versus actually creating something.
And the guy (Cerf) who is the father/creator of the Internet agrees with that!

Looks like your reading skills are sorely lacking ... and your objectivity.
.

strawman

I'm not even reading your points when you start by saying I said something I clearly did not say

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Why don't you take your stupid argument to another thread and stop wasting space on this thread's topic:

Ben Carson refers to himself as a "scientist".
.

Yet you don't tell Ed that who I RESPONDED to, fucking retard

 

[kaz]

Al Gore:
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth"

He did say he "create(d) the internet." I don't see a difference between that and inventing it

And there is exactly how you changed the context of the quote, you changed "creating" which is a noun, specifically a gerund, to a verb "create(d)."

so your isue is he used "creating" instead of "created?"

OMG, I can't make up the stupid that you people are. I actually make fun of liberals all the time that you don't understand using different forms of the same word. Yet you actually prove it's actually true

The issue is you have to change a noun to a verb to get Gore to do the act of creation. That is completely dishonest, but typically CON$ervative.

You're the Republican, Holmes. Iraq was a mistake, we should never have done that. Stop deflecting your right wing nut positions and stop being a tool of the wealthy and corporations

 

[Wry Catcher]

You are arguing a point not in contention, Holmes.

Ed disputed that he said he created it, I didn't dispute that he used the word "initiative" somewhere in his sentence.

You people are so stupid, we can't get past your inability to read simple sentences much less discuss actual content

---
So, you admit you take words out of context and twist the overall meaning to suit your slimy political agenda?
Gee, what an asshole you are.
Did you read what Vint Cerf said?
.

Spot on description of Kaz.

Another leftist joins the circle jerk. The point is simple, Gore said he created the Internet, the rest is you people spewing a bunch of ridiculous crap

Define "leftist" or shut the fuck up. You have no idea what the term leftist means in the 21st Century, nor the difference between left and right historically.

You use words as pejoratives with no effort to be honest or correct, it's why I believe you're a lazy fool - something I'm not alone in believing.

A cautionary tale for politicians: Al Gore and the ‘invention’ of the Internet

and,

Internet of Lies

and,

Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So continue to post the meme, and while you're at it defend Carson and everything about the man that has come out, and will come out now that the media has the smell of blood.

Simple question, how do you feel you are not a leftist?

Everything about you is simple, Simon.

Define leftist, and I'll point out what fits my belief system and what does not; what fits the Democratic Party and what does not, and what fits the moderate centrist American voter which rejects you and your kind of conservative.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Why can't be Carlson refer to himself as a scientist? He does have a phd for god sake!

So do English Professors.

 

[bripat9643]

They do, both General Chemistry and Organic Chemistry, but again it a watered down version no where as demanding as what a Chemistry Major would take.

Speaking of pure baloney....

Just because someone in one major doesn't take a full spectrum of chemistry courses on par with "what a chemistry major would take" does not mean that their courses are "watered down." In case you didn't know this, colleges generally offer standard courses, which are then attended by people who need them for a wide assortment of fields of study. So, when a pre-med student is required to take Chem 101 and Chem 102, it's the same Chem 101 and Chem 102 that a chem major will be taking. As a matter of fact, the pre-med student will probably be sitting smack dab in between a bunch of chem majors.

Sure, the pre-med student might not ever bother taking Advanced Underwater Chemistry in Hyperspace. But that doesn't mean that the pre-med student has taken a "watered down" version of chemistry. They simply didn't take the advanced level classes.

Oh, and just an FYI, the most advanced classes in a chem major's portfolio are going to tend to be things like physics classes, organic chemistry, etc.

Actually the courses are watered down as proven by the fact that they are worth less credits. The freshman general chemistry a biology student might take is worth 3 credits where as the general chemistry class a chemistry major takes is worth 4 credits and generally has more no credit lab hours. A freshman physics 101 course taken by a pre med student would be 4 credits and a physics 101 course taken by a physics major would be 5 credits and more lab hours.

Where I went to school the chemistry 101 class gave 3 credits but you got another credit for the lab.

 

[bripat9643]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

He's actually defending Gore's claim to be the father of the internet!

As I have shown so many times before, when lying scum Right-wingers get caught lying, they just keep on lying.

As you well know, Gore NEVER said he was the father of the internet, that lie was coined by a lying scum Right-winger named Declan McCullagh.

Al Gore had seen what happened with the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act of 1956, which his father introduced as a military bill. It was very powerful. Housing went up, suburban boom happened, everybody became mobile. Al was attuned to the power of networking much more than any of his elective colleagues. His initiatives led directly to the commercialization of the Internet. So he really does deserve credit.
- Vint Cerf, Father of the Internet

Vint Cerf, Tim Berners-Lee, Al Gore Among Internet Hall of Fame Inductees
Vint Cerf, Tim Berners-Lee, Al Gore Among Internet Hall of Fame Inductees

• By Damon Poeter
• April 23, 2012

Al Gore: Former U.S. vice president and senator who championed the funding and development of the Internet in Congress

Washingtonpost.com: Gore Deserves Internet Credit, Some Say

Gore Deserves Internet Credit, Some Say

Vice President Al Gore. (AP File Photo)
By John Schwartz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 21, 1999; Page A4
So -- did he do it?

Did Al Gore create the Internet?

The vice president's recent comment that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet" opened Gore up for wide derision, because the global computer network had its beginnings more than 25 years ago.

Former vice president Dan Quayle (R) scoffed to a reporter that "if Gore invented the Internet, I invented spell-check." Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) countered that he had invented the paper clip. Despite the partisan mirth, many of the researchers and venerated propeller-heads who did have a hand in the Internet's creation said Gore deserves substantial credit for passing a number of bills that boosted supercomputing and high-speed communications networks, which in turn helped create the Internet as it exists today.

David J. Farber, a professor of computer science at the University of Pennsylvania and one of the early players in the Internet, said that along with the importance of his legislative initiatives, Gore popularized the emerging medium worldwide. Gore aligned himself with high tech long before every lawmaker boasted of his or her personal Web site. He helped popularize the term "information superhighway," drawing on the symbolism of his father's hand in creating the interstate highway system.

Vinton G. Cerf, a senior vice president at MCI Worldcom and the person most often called "the father of the Internet" for his part in designing the network's common computer language, said in an e-mail interview yesterday, "I think it is very fair to say that the Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the vice president in his current role and in his earlier role as senator."

The co-author of a history of the online world, "Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet," agreed. Katie Hafner said people have been haggling over the true beginnings of the network for decades. "As we all know, there are many paternity claims on the Internet. That's a given, because it's so successful. But there are so many people who did at least one pivotal thing in either creating the network, or encouraging the use of the network, or bringing the network to the public -- and Gore was one of those people."

When lying scum Left-wingers get caught lying, you just keep on lying.

Al Gore: "I took the initiative in creating the internet"



Created is a synonym of invented, dumb ass.

And what's even funnier is that the father of the internet doesn't know the difference between the internet and the web. The internet has been around since circa 1960, he meant to take credit for inventing the web.

You and Gore are a couple of dumb asses

And INITIATIVE is NOT a synonym for invented!

Another pathological liar taking the quote out of context even after I posted the entire quote, proving the lying scum Right will always lie in the face of the truth.

I didn't say "initiative" was a synonym for invented, I said "created" is a synonym for invented.

WTF? What is wrong with you? It was a simple sentence, EdTheLemur, what is wrong with you? Seriously?

But he said in Congress he "TOOK THE INITIATIVE," not that he "created" the internet, so you have to show that "taking the INITIATIVE" is synonymous with "created" BEFORE you can link created to invented.
Get it?

He's weaseling.

 

[bripat9643]

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Al Gore:
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth"

Vint Cerf (a "father" of the Internet):
"Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development" ... "No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution [to the Internet] over a longer period of time":
.

You are arguing a point not in contention, Holmes.

Ed disputed that he said he created it, I didn't dispute that he used the word "initiative" somewhere in his sentence.

You people are so stupid, we can't get past your inability to read simple sentences much less discuss actual content

---
So, you admit you take words out of context and twist the overall meaning to suit your slimy political agenda?
Gee, what an asshole you are.
Did you read what Vint Cerf said?
.

Spot on description of Kaz.

Another leftist joins the circle jerk. The point is simple, Gore said he created the Internet, the rest is you people spewing a bunch of ridiculous crap

Define "leftist" or shut the fuck up. You have no idea what the term leftist means in the 21st Century, nor the difference between left and right historically.

You use words as pejoratives with no effort to be honest or correct, it's why I believe you're a lazy fool - something I'm not alone in believing.

A cautionary tale for politicians: Al Gore and the ‘invention’ of the Internet

and,

Internet of Lies

and,

Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So continue to post the meme, and while you're at it defend Carson and everything about the man that has come out, and will come out now that the media has the smell of blood.

The word "leftist" is a pejorative, just like the word Nazi, and for the same reason. We know what leftists believe in. That's why the word is a pejorative.

 

[bripat9643]

You are arguing a point not in contention, Holmes.

Ed disputed that he said he created it, I didn't dispute that he used the word "initiative" somewhere in his sentence.

You people are so stupid, we can't get past your inability to read simple sentences much less discuss actual content

---
So, you admit you take words out of context and twist the overall meaning to suit your slimy political agenda?
Gee, what an asshole you are.
Did you read what Vint Cerf said?
.

Spot on description of Kaz.

Another leftist joins the circle jerk. The point is simple, Gore said he created the Internet, the rest is you people spewing a bunch of ridiculous crap

Define "leftist" or shut the fuck up. You have no idea what the term leftist means in the 21st Century, nor the difference between left and right historically.

You use words as pejoratives with no effort to be honest or correct, it's why I believe you're a lazy fool - something I'm not alone in believing.

A cautionary tale for politicians: Al Gore and the ‘invention’ of the Internet

and,

Internet of Lies

and,

Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So continue to post the meme, and while you're at it defend Carson and everything about the man that has come out, and will come out now that the media has the smell of blood.

Simple question, how do you feel you are not a leftist?

I'm curios to see how he answers that one.

 

[bripat9643]

You are arguing a point not in contention, Holmes.

Ed disputed that he said he created it, I didn't dispute that he used the word "initiative" somewhere in his sentence.

You people are so stupid, we can't get past your inability to read simple sentences much less discuss actual content

---
So, you admit you take words out of context and twist the overall meaning to suit your slimy political agenda?
Gee, what an asshole you are.
Did you read what Vint Cerf said?
.

Strawman, moron

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You don't know what a straw man fallacy is, "moron".
In case you have not noticed, i cited quotes from the horses' mouths to provide context for accurate understanding of their meaning.
However, you don't care about that; you only care about cherry picking words out of context to twist their meaning.
Talk about "strawman" ... LOL.
.

Again, your reading skills are dreadful. that isn't what I said, I said the ridiculous crap you made up and attributed to me was a strawman.

Here's how you know that's what I meant, it's what you said in the post I responded to.

If the dog was on the table licking your plate, you wouldn't be able to figure out what happened to your dinner...

---
So, you admit you did not read what Cerf said? If you did, you surely did not understand the overall CONTEXT of Gore's statement, or most likely, you are playing political cherry-picking games, which reflects lame debators.

A moron does not understand the difference between taking an initiative to create something versus actually creating something.
And the guy (Cerf) who is the father/creator of the Internet agrees with that!

Looks like your reading skills are sorely lacking ... and your objectivity.
.

We understand that Gore is a lying sleazy weasel, just like all those who defend him.

 

[bripat9643]

Al Gore:
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth"

He did say he "create(d) the internet." I don't see a difference between that and inventing it

And there is exactly how you changed the context of the quote, you changed "creating" which is a noun, specifically a gerund, to a verb "create(d)."

so your isue is he used "creating" instead of "created?"

OMG, I can't make up the stupid that you people are. I actually make fun of liberals all the time that you don't understand using different forms of the same word. Yet you actually prove it's actually true

No matter how viciously you denigrate liberals, the truth is even worse.

 

[bripat9643]

---
So, you admit you take words out of context and twist the overall meaning to suit your slimy political agenda?
Gee, what an asshole you are.
Did you read what Vint Cerf said?
.

Spot on description of Kaz.

Another leftist joins the circle jerk. The point is simple, Gore said he created the Internet, the rest is you people spewing a bunch of ridiculous crap

Define "leftist" or shut the fuck up. You have no idea what the term leftist means in the 21st Century, nor the difference between left and right historically.

You use words as pejoratives with no effort to be honest or correct, it's why I believe you're a lazy fool - something I'm not alone in believing.

A cautionary tale for politicians: Al Gore and the ‘invention’ of the Internet

and,

Internet of Lies

and,

Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So continue to post the meme, and while you're at it defend Carson and everything about the man that has come out, and will come out now that the media has the smell of blood.

Simple question, how do you feel you are not a leftist?

Everything about you is simple, Simon.

Define leftist, and I'll point out what fits my belief system and what does not; what fits the Democratic Party and what does not, and what fits the moderate centrist American voter which rejects you and your kind of conservative.

Leftist: someone who prefers to have government make all business and economic decisions rather than private companies. Someone who believes government should be used to solve all human problems and opposes anyone having any autonomy outside of government or any freedom of action.

 

[PK1]

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You don't know what a straw man fallacy is, "moron".
In case you have not noticed, i cited quotes from the horses' mouths to provide context for accurate understanding of their meaning.
However, you don't care about that; you only care about cherry picking words out of context to twist their meaning.
Talk about "strawman" ... LOL.
.

Again, your reading skills are dreadful. that isn't what I said, I said the ridiculous crap you made up and attributed to me was a strawman.

Here's how you know that's what I meant, it's what you said in the post I responded to.

If the dog was on the table licking your plate, you wouldn't be able to figure out what happened to your dinner...

---
So, you admit you did not read what Cerf said? If you did, you surely did not understand the overall CONTEXT of Gore's statement, or most likely, you are playing political cherry-picking games, which reflects lame debators.

A moron does not understand the difference between taking an initiative to create something versus actually creating something.
And the guy (Cerf) who is the father/creator of the Internet agrees with that!

Looks like your reading skills are sorely lacking ... and your objectivity.
.

strawman

I'm not even reading your points when you start by saying I said something I clearly did not say

---
Why don't you take your stupid argument to another thread and stop wasting space on this thread's topic:

Ben Carson refers to himself as a "scientist".
.

Yet you don't tell Ed that who I RESPONDED to, fucking retard

---
Emotional issues?
Calm down, you're not doing your MIA intellect any favors.
.

 

[kaz]

---
So, you admit you take words out of context and twist the overall meaning to suit your slimy political agenda?
Gee, what an asshole you are.
Did you read what Vint Cerf said?
.

Spot on description of Kaz.

Another leftist joins the circle jerk. The point is simple, Gore said he created the Internet, the rest is you people spewing a bunch of ridiculous crap

Define "leftist" or shut the fuck up. You have no idea what the term leftist means in the 21st Century, nor the difference between left and right historically.

You use words as pejoratives with no effort to be honest or correct, it's why I believe you're a lazy fool - something I'm not alone in believing.

A cautionary tale for politicians: Al Gore and the ‘invention’ of the Internet

and,

Internet of Lies

and,

Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So continue to post the meme, and while you're at it defend Carson and everything about the man that has come out, and will come out now that the media has the smell of blood.

Simple question, how do you feel you are not a leftist?

Everything about you is simple, Simon.

Define leftist, and I'll point out what fits my belief system and what does not; what fits the Democratic Party and what does not, and what fits the moderate centrist American voter which rejects you and your kind of conservative.

So you are not a leftist, but you're not sure how. But if I give you a menu, then you'll pick one.

What a stupid fuck you are.

Everything you do all day is pimp leftist propaganda. How are you not a leftist, if you're not one, is a simple question. But you retarded leftists constantly play this game.

I'll go first. I'm not a "Republican" because I oppose the war on terror, the war on drugs, I am pro-choice and anti-death penalty. Just a few things, see how simple that was?

Your turn, you are not a leftist because...

 

[kaz]

---
So, you admit you take words out of context and twist the overall meaning to suit your slimy political agenda?
Gee, what an asshole you are.
Did you read what Vint Cerf said?
.

Spot on description of Kaz.

Another leftist joins the circle jerk. The point is simple, Gore said he created the Internet, the rest is you people spewing a bunch of ridiculous crap

Define "leftist" or shut the fuck up. You have no idea what the term leftist means in the 21st Century, nor the difference between left and right historically.

You use words as pejoratives with no effort to be honest or correct, it's why I believe you're a lazy fool - something I'm not alone in believing.

A cautionary tale for politicians: Al Gore and the ‘invention’ of the Internet

and,

Internet of Lies

and,

Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So continue to post the meme, and while you're at it defend Carson and everything about the man that has come out, and will come out now that the media has the smell of blood.

Simple question, how do you feel you are not a leftist?

I'm curios to see how he answers that one.

Evasion, I'm sure we both knew that was coming

 

[PK1]

---
So, you admit you take words out of context and twist the overall meaning to suit your slimy political agenda?
Gee, what an asshole you are.
Did you read what Vint Cerf said?
.

Strawman, moron

---
You don't know what a straw man fallacy is, "moron".
In case you have not noticed, i cited quotes from the horses' mouths to provide context for accurate understanding of their meaning.
However, you don't care about that; you only care about cherry picking words out of context to twist their meaning.
Talk about "strawman" ... LOL.
.

Again, your reading skills are dreadful. that isn't what I said, I said the ridiculous crap you made up and attributed to me was a strawman.

Here's how you know that's what I meant, it's what you said in the post I responded to.

If the dog was on the table licking your plate, you wouldn't be able to figure out what happened to your dinner...

---
So, you admit you did not read what Cerf said? If you did, you surely did not understand the overall CONTEXT of Gore's statement, or most likely, you are playing political cherry-picking games, which reflects lame debators.

A moron does not understand the difference between taking an initiative to create something versus actually creating something.
And the guy (Cerf) who is the father/creator of the Internet agrees with that!

Looks like your reading skills are sorely lacking ... and your objectivity.
.

We understand that Gore is a lying sleazy weasel, just like all those who defend him.

---
And we understand your reading comprehension is lacking.
Is Vint Cerf also lying ... in your Fantasyland?
.

 

[Contumacious]

That's is the new strategy


sticking to the populace in the name of "science"


Ask Eric T. Schneiderman...


.

 

[PK1]

---
So, you admit you did not read what Cerf said? If you did, you surely did not understand the overall CONTEXT of Gore's statement, or most likely, you are playing political cherry-picking games, which reflects lame debators.

A moron does not understand the difference between taking an initiative to create something versus actually creating something.
And the guy (Cerf) who is the father/creator of the Internet agrees with that!

Looks like your reading skills are sorely lacking ... and your objectivity.
.

strawman

I'm not even reading your points when you start by saying I said something I clearly did not say

---
Why don't you take your stupid argument to another thread and stop wasting space on this thread's topic:

Ben Carson refers to himself as a "scientist".
.

Yet you don't tell Ed that who I RESPONDED to, fucking retard

---
Emotional issues?
Calm down, you're not doing your MIA intellect any favors.
.

Hey, sorry I made you cry, gay boy. I'll lay off you a little bit until you calm down. Breathe into a bag if you have to.

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LOL!
I rest my case.
.