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Ben Franklin: Those who give up Freedom for Safety deserve Neither

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Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

How is building the wall "giving up freedom?"
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

How is building the wall "giving up freedom?"
Building a wall is NOT giving up freedom. Please read the comments. Someone is willing to give up their freedom to make someone a dictator or king. Didn't we fight a war to get rid of a king?
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

Not only would it help stem the flow of illegal aliens and terrorists, it would also help in stemming the flow of drugs into the country.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

How is building the wall "giving up freedom?"
Building a wall is NOT giving up freedom. Please read the comments. Someone is willing to give up their freedom to make someone a dictator or king. Didn't we fight a war to get rid of a king?

No worries, King Obama will be gone shortly.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

How is building the wall "giving up freedom?"
Building a wall is NOT giving up freedom. Please read the comments. Someone is willing to give up their freedom to make someone a dictator or king. Didn't we fight a war to get rid of a king?

Then why did you list building the wall as one of your examples?
 
People here honestly believe that they're going to elect Trump president and a month later, magically, a border wall will appear, paid for by Mexico.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.
You really are terribly uninformed.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.
People are just getting frustrated that the two parties who run this country have become so divisive and incapable of working out their problems. So they think about the alternative, which is how the majority of the world has always been governed. It's easier (as long as you're on the dictator's good side) and at least things get done.

It is really up to the Democrats and Republicans to school their extremist fringes, and not the other way around. I still believe there are moderates and common sense thinkers in this country who would have no problem voting for a "middle of the roader." The candidates are just afraid to seem like one.
 
People here honestly believe that they're going to elect Trump president and a month later, magically, a border wall will appear, paid for by Mexico.
No one believes it will take only a month, and it won't be magical. Some construction companies will be involved. No magic is required to build something as basic as a wall.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.


Shortbus, you are as stupid as a doorknob.

What freedom do we give up by building a wall?

Just when I thought you couldn't get any more stupid....
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

How is building the wall "giving up freedom?"


Dammit! You beat me to it. :)
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

How is building the wall "giving up freedom?"


Dammit! You beat me to it. :)

But I like the well deserved ridicule you added to the question.
 
Building a wall is NOT giving up freedom. Please read the comments. Someone is willing to give up their freedom to make someone a dictator or king. Didn't we fight a war to get rid of a king?

So then, you're just a retard flinging shit with no actual idea of WHAT the words you cut and paste from the Soros hate sites actually mean. :thup:
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

How is building the wall "giving up freedom?"
Building a wall is NOT giving up freedom. Please read the comments. Someone is willing to give up their freedom to make someone a dictator or king. Didn't we fight a war to get rid of a king?

No worries, King Obama will be gone shortly.


It is very odd that you say that.....

Words like:
"King"
"Dear Leader"
"Great One"
"Messiah"
Are only used by RWrs here. The correct term for Obama is PRESIDENT Obama. You know, the duly elected (twice) PRESIDENT of the United States.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.
You really are terribly uninformed.

No, she is just terribly stupid.

She accepts anything posted on KOS or ThinkProgess uncritically.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

Not only would it help stem the flow of illegal aliens and terrorists, it would also help in stemming the flow of drugs into the country.
Giving up freedom for safety will "help stem the flow of illegal aliens and terrorists"?
Declaring Trump King will "help in stemming the flow of drugs into the country"?
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

How is building the wall "giving up freedom?"
Building a wall is NOT giving up freedom. Please read the comments. Someone is willing to give up their freedom to make someone a dictator or king. Didn't we fight a war to get rid of a king?

Then why did you list building the wall as one of your examples?
C'mon...I thought you were smarter than that. Look at the entire quotes I've put in blue. Do I truly need to highlight the key words for you?
 
People here honestly believe that they're going to elect Trump president and a month later, magically, a border wall will appear, paid for by Mexico.
Wall, Schmall. My concern is those Trump supporters who want him to be a King or Dictator.....and say so.
 
Actually, the full and correct quote is:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” ”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”

Was old Ben anticipating people who say things like this:

"IF he builds that wall, and STOPS terrorist muslims, and criminal Hispanics from coming to America, IU'm all for declaring him KING...He will have done MORE than any other President has done since WW II!!!!!"

and this:

"A BENEVOLENT DICTATOR that will "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN".... we desperately NEED one, especially one that will CANCEL all of the Manchurian muslim's Unconstitutional E.O.'s!!!!!"

Discuss.

Not only would it help stem the flow of illegal aliens and terrorists, it would also help in stemming the flow of drugs into the country.
Giving up freedom for safety will "help stem the flow of illegal aliens and terrorists"?
Declaring Trump King will "help in stemming the flow of drugs into the country"?

What freedom will Americans be giving up by securing their own border?
 

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