Benghazi terrorist captured

[BlindBoo]

So under Libyan law, we may have actually kidnapped him?

It depends. Libya is part of the UN Treaty on international terrorism, so IF we took him due to a terrorist attack, then we are on legally solid ground.

However, IF we claim this is a criminal act, then yes, we kidnapped him.

Now obviously this WAS a long planned terror attack, but Obama is stupid, REALLY stupid, so he is working hard to fuck it up.

The crimes he will be charged with are in connection with the terrorist attack in Benghazi.

So far, he faces three criminal counts: Killing a person in the course of an attack on a federal facility and conspiring to do so; providing, attempting and conspiring to provide material support to terrorists that resulted in death; and discharging, brandishing, using, carrying and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence.

What's next for Libya suspect, on ship and beyond? - US News

 

[usmcstinger]

Obviously because there was no such order given.

Are you that ignorant? The military was asking to attempt a rescue. An order had to be given by the Chain of Command that begins with Potus to stand down.

Nope, not ignorant or misinformed like you. The Republican led House Armed Services Committee hearing concluded there was NO stand down order.

Officer: No Libya stand-down order

June 27, 2013 12:00 am • Donna Cassata The Associated Press0
WASHINGTON - The former commander of a four-member Army Special Forces unit in Tripoli, Libya, denied Wednesday that he was told to stand down during last year's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

In a closed-door session with the House Armed Services Committee, Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson said his commanders told him to remain in the capital of Tripoli to defend Americans in the event of additional attacks and to help survivors being evacuated from Benghazi.

"Contrary to news reports, Gibson was not ordered to 'stand down' by higher command authorities in response to his understandable desire to lead a group of three other special forces soldiers to Benghazi," the Republican-led committee said in a summary of its classified briefing with military officials, including Gibson.

There is much more information that you have failed to find.

As a result, Mr. Panetta said, he and two top commanders “felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.” The commanders are Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Carter F. Ham of Africa Command, which oversees American military operations in Africa, including Libya.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/w...f-monitoring-situation-in-benghazi.html?_r=1&

General Ham told Chaffetz that the forces were available, but that no order to use them was given. Defense Secretary Panetta had claimed that the refusal to use force had come from him, General Dempsey and General Ham.
Benghazigate: General Ham: ?No Order to Protect Consulate? (VIDEO) | FrontPage Magazine


Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.


Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.

According to our sources, General Ham received copies of the e-mails that had been sent to the White House from Benghazi, requesting military support at the Consulate and the Annex after the attacks began. General Ham had a rapid response unit ready to deploy and communicated that to the Pentagon. He then received the order to stand down. His response to the Pentagon was essentially that he could not do that. Within a few minutes after sending that response, his second in command told General Ham that he was relieved of his command, effectively immediately.
http://gerarddirect.com/2012/10/28/...-for-wanting-to-assist-personnel-in-benghazi/

General Ham was the only one who understood the Warrior Ethos. Evidently, no one above him in the chain of command did.

 

[Siete]

Are you that ignorant? The military was asking to attempt a rescue. An order had to be given by the Chain of Command that begins with Potus to stand down.

Nope, not ignorant or misinformed like you. The Republican led House Armed Services Committee hearing concluded there was NO stand down order.

Officer: No Libya stand-down order

June 27, 2013 12:00 am • Donna Cassata The Associated Press0
WASHINGTON - The former commander of a four-member Army Special Forces unit in Tripoli, Libya, denied Wednesday that he was told to stand down during last year's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

In a closed-door session with the House Armed Services Committee, Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson said his commanders told him to remain in the capital of Tripoli to defend Americans in the event of additional attacks and to help survivors being evacuated from Benghazi.

"Contrary to news reports, Gibson was not ordered to 'stand down' by higher command authorities in response to his understandable desire to lead a group of three other special forces soldiers to Benghazi," the Republican-led committee said in a summary of its classified briefing with military officials, including Gibson.

There is much more information that you have failed to find.

As a result, Mr. Panetta said, he and two top commanders “felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.” The commanders are Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Carter F. Ham of Africa Command, which oversees American military operations in Africa, including Libya.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/w...f-monitoring-situation-in-benghazi.html?_r=1&

General Ham told Chaffetz that the forces were available, but that no order to use them was given. Defense Secretary Panetta had claimed that the refusal to use force had come from him, General Dempsey and General Ham.
Benghazigate: General Ham: ?No Order to Protect Consulate? (VIDEO) | FrontPage Magazine


Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.


Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.

According to our sources, General Ham received copies of the e-mails that had been sent to the White House from Benghazi, requesting military support at the Consulate and the Annex after the attacks began. General Ham had a rapid response unit ready to deploy and communicated that to the Pentagon. He then received the order to stand down. His response to the Pentagon was essentially that he could not do that. Within a few minutes after sending that response, his second in command told General Ham that he was relieved of his command, effectively immediately.
Head of AFRICOM Told to ?Stand Down? for Wanting to Assist Personnel in Benghazi | Gerard Direct

General Ham was the only one who understood the Warrior Ethos. Evidently, no one above him in the chain of command did.

Thank You for your service sir...

 

[B. Kidd]

I'd rather the prick get a federal trial be convicted, and hung in 1 or 2 years, VS going to GITMO and left to rot for a decade

but that's just me ...

What's the difference? You have found him guilty already!
Here's your due process (as B. Kidd grabs his crotch).........

 

[Siete]

I'd rather the prick get a federal trial be convicted, and hung in 1 or 2 years, VS going to GITMO and left to rot for a decade

but that's just me ...

What's the difference? You have found him guilty already!
Here's your due process (as B. Kidd grabs his crotch).........

no I haven't .. he pretty much takes credit for the Embassy does he not?

 

[edthecynic]

And even if he were there, the fact remains that no ‘crimes’ were committed by Administration officials, that there are no ‘cover ups,’ and that no ‘scandal’ exists concerning ‘Benghazi.’

Just the FACT that the REGIME LIED about Benghazi being started by a video!

On Oct. 18, 2012, the New York Times published an interview from “two leisurely hours” with Khattala, who declared he was not a member of Al Qaeda but said he’d be proud to be associated with the organization’s zeal for Islamic law. He also blamed the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, on the United States’ foreign policy.

Hey dumbass, Benghazi was 2012 not 2001.

Notice how the pathological liar did not link to the Times story, obviously the liar did not want people to see this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...ghazi-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all

Mr. Abu Khattala, 41, wearing a red fez and sandals, added his own spin. Contradicting the accounts of many witnesses and the most recent account of the Obama administration, he contended that the attack had grown out of a peaceful protest against a video made in the United States that mocked the Prophet Muhammad and Islam.

Are you that ignorant? The military was asking to attempt a rescue. An order had to be given by the Chain of Command that begins with Potus to stand down.

Nope, not ignorant or misinformed like you. The Republican led House Armed Services Committee hearing concluded there was NO stand down order.

Officer: No Libya stand-down order

June 27, 2013 12:00 am • Donna Cassata The Associated Press0
WASHINGTON - The former commander of a four-member Army Special Forces unit in Tripoli, Libya, denied Wednesday that he was told to stand down during last year's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

In a closed-door session with the House Armed Services Committee, Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson said his commanders told him to remain in the capital of Tripoli to defend Americans in the event of additional attacks and to help survivors being evacuated from Benghazi.

"Contrary to news reports, Gibson was not ordered to 'stand down' by higher command authorities in response to his understandable desire to lead a group of three other special forces soldiers to Benghazi," the Republican-led committee said in a summary of its classified briefing with military officials, including Gibson.

There is much more information that you have failed to find.

As a result, Mr. Panetta said, he and two top commanders “felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.” The commanders are Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Carter F. Ham of Africa Command, which oversees American military operations in Africa, including Libya.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/w...f-monitoring-situation-in-benghazi.html?_r=1&

General Ham told Chaffetz that the forces were available, but that no order to use them was given. Defense Secretary Panetta had claimed that the refusal to use force had come from him, General Dempsey and General Ham.
Benghazigate: General Ham: ?No Order to Protect Consulate? (VIDEO) | FrontPage Magazine


Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.


Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.

According to our sources, General Ham received copies of the e-mails that had been sent to the White House from Benghazi, requesting military support at the Consulate and the Annex after the attacks began. General Ham had a rapid response unit ready to deploy and communicated that to the Pentagon. He then received the order to stand down. His response to the Pentagon was essentially that he could not do that. Within a few minutes after sending that response, his second in command told General Ham that he was relieved of his command, effectively immediately.
Head of AFRICOM Told to ?Stand Down? for Wanting to Assist Personnel in Benghazi | Gerard Direct

General Ham was the only one who understood the Warrior Ethos. Evidently, no one above him in the chain of command did.

It's just one Right-wing/GOP lie after another Right-wing lie in a never ending procession of Right-wing/GOP lies.

armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=AAEBCAA5-4C8F-4820-BACD-2DB9B53C3424

HAM: I will admit to giving a lot of thought about close air support. And in the lead up to September 11th, in the discussions about what forces should we have available, it was my determination, obviously with advice from others, but the responsibility was mine as the commander, was that close air support was not the appropriate tool in this situation.

And as I look back on the events of that night and say ... and think in my own mind would air have made a difference? And in my military judgment, I believe the answer is no. It was a very uncertain situation in an environment which we know we had an unknown surface-to-air threat with the proliferation particularly of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, many of which remain unaccounted for. But mostly it was a lack of understanding of the environment, and hence the need for the Predator to try to gain an understanding of what was going on.

Knowing the intelligence that I had at the time, not obviously what I have now, but the intelligence I had at the time caused me to conclude in my military judgment that attack aircraft would not be the appropriate response tool. And so I did not direct a heightened alert. That is obviously fair for criticism, and knowing what we know now maybe that was — maybe I would make a different decision. But close air support I think, I still even knowing what I know now, think that was not the right tool to effect change in this situation.

snip/

MCKEON: "This might be a good time to ask ... I heard that you had made the statement that you were prepared to go to their aid and somebody told you no and you said you were going anyway. Is that all some supposition that comes from some reporter?"

HAM: "Yes, sir. No one ever told me no."

 

[Siete]

Gates Benghazi Critic Cartoonish Military - Business Insider

 

[edthecynic]

http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/561*425/ows_140313380118302.jpg

 

[usmcstinger]

Just the FACT that the REGIME LIED about Benghazi being started by a video!

On Oct. 18, 2012, the New York Times published an interview from “two leisurely hours” with Khattala, who declared he was not a member of Al Qaeda but said he’d be proud to be associated with the organization’s zeal for Islamic law. He also blamed the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, on the United States’ foreign policy.

Hey dumbass, Benghazi was 2012 not 2001.

Notice how the pathological liar did not link to the Times story, obviously the liar did not want people to see this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...ghazi-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all

Mr. Abu Khattala, 41, wearing a red fez and sandals, added his own spin. Contradicting the accounts of many witnesses and the most recent account of the Obama administration, he contended that the attack had grown out of a peaceful protest against a video made in the United States that mocked the Prophet Muhammad and Islam.

Nope, not ignorant or misinformed like you. The Republican led House Armed Services Committee hearing concluded there was NO stand down order.

Officer: No Libya stand-down order

June 27, 2013 12:00 am • Donna Cassata The Associated Press0
WASHINGTON - The former commander of a four-member Army Special Forces unit in Tripoli, Libya, denied Wednesday that he was told to stand down during last year's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

In a closed-door session with the House Armed Services Committee, Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson said his commanders told him to remain in the capital of Tripoli to defend Americans in the event of additional attacks and to help survivors being evacuated from Benghazi.

"Contrary to news reports, Gibson was not ordered to 'stand down' by higher command authorities in response to his understandable desire to lead a group of three other special forces soldiers to Benghazi," the Republican-led committee said in a summary of its classified briefing with military officials, including Gibson.

There is much more information that you have failed to find.

As a result, Mr. Panetta said, he and two top commanders “felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.” The commanders are Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Carter F. Ham of Africa Command, which oversees American military operations in Africa, including Libya.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/w...f-monitoring-situation-in-benghazi.html?_r=1&

General Ham told Chaffetz that the forces were available, but that no order to use them was given. Defense Secretary Panetta had claimed that the refusal to use force had come from him, General Dempsey and General Ham.
Benghazigate: General Ham: ?No Order to Protect Consulate? (VIDEO) | FrontPage Magazine


Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.


Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.

According to our sources, General Ham received copies of the e-mails that had been sent to the White House from Benghazi, requesting military support at the Consulate and the Annex after the attacks began. General Ham had a rapid response unit ready to deploy and communicated that to the Pentagon. He then received the order to stand down. His response to the Pentagon was essentially that he could not do that. Within a few minutes after sending that response, his second in command told General Ham that he was relieved of his command, effectively immediately.
Head of AFRICOM Told to ?Stand Down? for Wanting to Assist Personnel in Benghazi | Gerard Direct

General Ham was the only one who understood the Warrior Ethos. Evidently, no one above him in the chain of command did.

It's just one Right-wing/GOP lie after another Right-wing lie in a never ending procession of Right-wing/GOP lies.

armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=AAEBCAA5-4C8F-4820-BACD-2DB9B53C3424

HAM: I will admit to giving a lot of thought about close air support. And in the lead up to September 11th, in the discussions about what forces should we have available, it was my determination, obviously with advice from others, but the responsibility was mine as the commander, was that close air support was not the appropriate tool in this situation.

And as I look back on the events of that night and say ... and think in my own mind would air have made a difference? And in my military judgment, I believe the answer is no. It was a very uncertain situation in an environment which we know we had an unknown surface-to-air threat with the proliferation particularly of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, many of which remain unaccounted for. But mostly it was a lack of understanding of the environment, and hence the need for the Predator to try to gain an understanding of what was going on.

Knowing the intelligence that I had at the time, not obviously what I have now, but the intelligence I had at the time caused me to conclude in my military judgment that attack aircraft would not be the appropriate response tool. And so I did not direct a heightened alert. That is obviously fair for criticism, and knowing what we know now maybe that was — maybe I would make a different decision. But close air support I think, I still even knowing what I know now, think that was not the right tool to effect change in this situation.

snip/

MCKEON: "This might be a good time to ask ... I heard that you had made the statement that you were prepared to go to their aid and somebody told you no and you said you were going anyway. Is that all some supposition that comes from some reporter?"

HAM: "Yes, sir. No one ever told me no."

Sounds more like a left wing cover up. "You can keep your Health Insurance and your Doctor."
How can you believe anything this Administration says.
Delusional followers of Obama ignore the truth.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So under Libyan law, we may have actually kidnapped him?

It depends. Libya is part of the UN Treaty on international terrorism, so IF we took him due to a terrorist attack, then we are on legally solid ground.

However, IF we claim this is a criminal act, then yes, we kidnapped him.

Now obviously this WAS a long planned terror attack, but Obama is stupid, REALLY stupid, so he is working hard to fuck it up.

The crimes he will be charged with are in connection with the terrorist attack in Benghazi.

So far, he faces three criminal counts: Killing a person in the course of an attack on a federal facility and conspiring to do so; providing, attempting and conspiring to provide material support to terrorists that resulted in death; and discharging, brandishing, using, carrying and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence.

What's next for Libya suspect, on ship and beyond? - US News

We have no criminal authority over acts committed in Libya. The moron Obama moves us from solid legal footing, onto illegal acts.

 

[g5000]

you are still blaming some fucking video riot???

Ding-ding.....winner, winner.

Obama didn't want to grab him before because it ruined their "video riot lie."

Some terrorist being tied to the Benghazi attack would be bad news for their lie, but now everyone knows Obama lied to win an election so he needs this terrorist now to cover up other bad news in IraQ

If I recall correctly, the same guy said that the initial attackers were not motivated by the video but that once the attack breached the compound, a riot ensued, and many of the Libyans who ransacked and lit the place on fire were motivated by the video.

A Deadly Mix in Benghazi

Reports of the video were just beginning to spread on Sept. 9 when Mr. McFarland, then the officer normally in charge of politics and economics at the United States Embassy in Tripoli, had his meeting with the Benghazi militia leaders. Among them were some of the same men who had greeted Mr. Stevens when he arrived in Benghazi at the start of the revolt, including Mr. Gharabi, 39, a heavyset former Abu Salim inmate who ran a local sandwich truck before becoming the leader of the Rafallah al-Sehati. Another was Wissam bin Hamid, also 39, a slim and slightly hunched mechanic known for his skill with American cars who by then had become the leader of Libya Shield, considered one of the strongest militias in Libya.

In an interview, Mr. Gharabi said that he had known about the building rage in Egypt over the video, but that, “We did not know if it was going to reach us here.”
Mr. McFarland seemed most concerned about the big militia leaders. “'How do the revolutionaries feel about having relationships with Western countries? What is your opinion about the United States?'” the Americans asked, according to Mr. Gharabi. It was “an interrogation,” he said.

“We told them that we hoped that the countries which helped us during the war would now help us in development,” he said. “And America was at the top of the pyramid.”

But Mr. Gharabi and two other Libyan militia leaders present said separately that they tried to warn Mr. McFarland. “We told them, ‘Weapons are everywhere, in every home, and there is no real control,' ” Mr. Bin Hamid of Libya Shield said.

Mr. McFarland struggled to make sense of their contradictory signals. “The message was, ‘Don’t come here because there is no security, but come right away because we need you,' ” Mr. McFarland later told colleagues.

The militia leaders seemed unable to get their stories straight, his colleagues said, and the vague warnings amounted to a reminder of what the diplomats already knew: Post-revolutionary Benghazi was a dangerous place.

Around dusk, the Pan-Arab satellite networks began broadcasting footage of protesters breaching the walls of the American Embassy in Cairo, pulling down the American flag and running up the black banner of militant Islam. Young men around Benghazi began calling one another with the news, several said, and many learned of the video for the first time.

There is no doubt that anger over the video motivated many attackers. A Libyan journalist working for The New York Times was blocked from entering by the sentries outside, and he learned of the film from the fighters who stopped him. Other Libyan witnesses, too, said they received lectures from the attackers about the evil of the film and the virtue of defending the prophet.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

you are still blaming some fucking video riot???

Ding-ding.....winner, winner.

Obama didn't want to grab him before because it ruined their "video riot lie."

Some terrorist being tied to the Benghazi attack would be bad news for their lie, but now everyone knows Obama lied to win an election so he needs this terrorist now to cover up other bad news in IraQ

If I recall correctly, the same guy said that the initial attackers were not motivated by the video but that once the attack breached the compound, a riot ensued, and many of the Libyans who ransacked and lit the place on fire were motivated by the video.

The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia

Reports of the video were just beginning to spread on Sept. 9 when Mr. McFarland, then the officer normally in charge of politics and economics at the United States Embassy in Tripoli, had his meeting with the Benghazi militia leaders. Among them were some of the same men who had greeted Mr. Stevens when he arrived in Benghazi at the start of the revolt, including Mr. Gharabi, 39, a heavyset former Abu Salim inmate who ran a local sandwich truck before becoming the leader of the Rafallah al-Sehati. Another was Wissam bin Hamid, also 39, a slim and slightly hunched mechanic known for his skill with American cars who by then had become the leader of Libya Shield, considered one of the strongest militias in Libya.

In an interview, Mr. Gharabi said that he had known about the building rage in Egypt over the video, but that, “We did not know if it was going to reach us here.”
Mr. McFarland seemed most concerned about the big militia leaders. “'How do the revolutionaries feel about having relationships with Western countries? What is your opinion about the United States?'” the Americans asked, according to Mr. Gharabi. It was “an interrogation,” he said.

“We told them that we hoped that the countries which helped us during the war would now help us in development,” he said. “And America was at the top of the pyramid.”

But Mr. Gharabi and two other Libyan militia leaders present said separately that they tried to warn Mr. McFarland. “We told them, ‘Weapons are everywhere, in every home, and there is no real control,' ” Mr. Bin Hamid of Libya Shield said.

Mr. McFarland struggled to make sense of their contradictory signals. “The message was, ‘Don’t come here because there is no security, but come right away because we need you,' ” Mr. McFarland later told colleagues.

The militia leaders seemed unable to get their stories straight, his colleagues said, and the vague warnings amounted to a reminder of what the diplomats already knew: Post-revolutionary Benghazi was a dangerous place.

Around dusk, the Pan-Arab satellite networks began broadcasting footage of protesters breaching the walls of the American Embassy in Cairo, pulling down the American flag and running up the black banner of militant Islam. Young men around Benghazi began calling one another with the news, several said, and many learned of the video for the first time.

There is no doubt that anger over the video motivated many attackers. A Libyan journalist working for The New York Times was blocked from entering by the sentries outside, and he learned of the film from the fighters who stopped him. Other Libyan witnesses, too, said they received lectures from the attackers about the evil of the film and the virtue of defending the prophet.

omfg! The Times agrees with Obama!! Holy Fuck!

What are the odds of that happening???????

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Maybe the chief terrorist HAS been captured! But, by Hillary's own standards: "What difference does it make?"

"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. "

Why did she blame a movie, knowing full well there were requests for additional security for weeks before the attack?

They must have gotten a heads up about the movie being released, nothing else fits the facts

 

[francoHFW]

The CIA STILL believes the video was the TRIGGER, just like for all the other embassy etc protests earlier that day across the ME, numbskull dupes. There's no doubt except in Pub Dupe Bizarroworld...

 

[francoHFW]

AND MANY MORE- everyone but your bs propaganda machine.

Search instead for cia: video was the trigger for bengazi attack
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1. • Fox News Falsely Suggests CIA Never Linked Benghazi To ...
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     May 7, 2013 - ... CIA didn't link the Benghazi attacks to an anti-Islam YouTube video. ... shows pointing to this video as the trigger of the chaos in Benghazi.►
   • Four Media Reports From Libya That Linked The Benghazi ...
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     May 14, 2013 - ... attacks in Benghazi, Libya, to an anti-Islam video that had triggered ... That is the conclusion that the CIA's Office of Terrorism Analysis came ...
   • 2012 Benghazi attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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     The second assault took place at a CIA annex 1.2 miles away (coordinates ...... The unrest we've seen around the region has been in reaction to a video that ... attack; that we saw evidence that it was sparked by the reaction to this video.
   • Benghazi Timeline - FactCheck.org
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     Oct 26, 2012 - 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi began “spontaneously” in ... the anti-Muslim video as the underlying cause for the attack in Benghazi that ..... Rice received her information from talking points developed by the CIA

 

[Antares]

The CIA STILL believes the video was the TRIGGER, just like for all the other embassy etc protests earlier that day across the ME, numbskull dupes. There's no doubt except in Pub Dupe Bizarroworld...

NO they don't dipshit.

 

[francoHFW]

LOL, dingbat hater dupe. Only chumps of Fox etc don't.

 

[tinydancer]

LOL, dingbat hater dupe. Only chumps of Fox etc don't.

Testimony confirms that the Pentagon knew it was a terror attack from the get go.

Can't you people let go of the bullshit lie about some lamo video?

It was a terror attack. There were no riots. No protests in Benghazi. Just a well planned assault on the consulate.

 

[tinydancer]

I don't think liberals even have it in them any more to admit truth. All they do is lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.


"Ham, whose partially redacted transcript was declassified by the House on Monday, said at the 2013 hearing that he was alerted to the incident 15 minutes after it erupted at 9:42 p.m. Libya Time (3:42 p.m. EST) on Sep. 11, 2012.

"When we saw a rocket-propelled grenade attack, what appeared to be pretty well aimed small arms fire — again, this is all coming second and third hand through unclassified, you know, commercial cellphones for the most part initially. To me, it started to become clear pretty quickly that this was certainly a terrorist attack and not just not something sporadic," he stated.

Ham served as head of the United States Africa Command, which manages U.S. military operations in Africa. He served in that capacity from March 2011 to April 2013.

He describes how as soon as AFRICOM learned of the attack, the command control repositioned a drone to the consulate to gather intelligence on the ground movements. The unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft was ordered to be diverted to the Benghazi site at 9:59 p.m. Libya Time, 17 minutes after the attack.

According to the timeline, at 10:32 p.m. Libya Time, Ham briefed then Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, before they traveled to the White House for a pre-scheduled meeting with Obama, during which they briefed Obama on the situation."

Benghazi thought to be an attack from beginning by Defense officials newly declassified testimony - NY Daily News

 

[francoHFW]

Who the hell's arguing it wasn't an attack lol?