Betsy DeVos Has Cut 600 Staff Positions in Dept of Education

[Harpy Eagle]

Tomorrow’s headlines: Trump administration destroys Christmas for hundreds of families.

I’m hoping in his second term Trump eliminates the Department altogether.

Betsy DeVos has cut 600 staff positions at the Department of Education.

“I have long advocated for the notion that it would be great to work myself out of a job,” she said.

Snip, snip, snip, the superfluous liberal government workers.

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Yep. Obama made political appointees “civil servants” so Trump couldn’t purge them. Many hired after Trump victory to flood Washington DC with communist.

Why is the number of civil servants under Trump rising so fast?

How many of those are civilian workers at Pentagon? He’s working on it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5e2dfe-54c0-11e9-9136-f8e636f1f6df_story.html

You know....civilian workers at Pentagon can be liberals also...

 

[Weatherman2020]

Snip, snip, snip, the superfluous liberal government workers.

View attachment 296976

Yep. Obama made political appointees “civil servants” so Trump couldn’t purge them. Many hired after Trump victory to flood Washington DC with communist.

Why is the number of civil servants under Trump rising so fast?

How many of those are civilian workers at Pentagon? He’s working on it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5e2dfe-54c0-11e9-9136-f8e636f1f6df_story.html

You know....civilian workers at Pentagon can be liberals also...

You know....civilian workers at Pentagon can be liberals also...

And Greta Thunberg can get a job at a coal plant too.

 

[Coyote]

We have private schools, if you can afford them.
You can pick where you live based on the schools.
You can even home school your spawn if you don't mind his completely lacking socialization skills.

Vouchers will allow more people to choose.

But unfortunately Democrats are too beholding to teachers unions too allow the money to follow the child.

Democrats priority is the union over the child, because the children don't kick back part of the money to them.

You can choose. Just dont demand that I have to pay for your elite academies or whacko religious schools.

Decades ago parochial schools in northeast cities had about half the students. I know. There are tax differences. But it saved the cities a lot of money. The parents of the children had to do their best to tithe and were charged to send their kids to the schools. Please do not say anything about choice. A lot of it was about survival also.

I don't disagree with you - I believe in choice, just not taking away from the public education system to fund it. What you describe is how it should be.

 

[Jitss617]

You maybe went to ONE school until you dropped out, idiot.

When you want to debate actually issues let’s talk, all you do is troll me......

When you can communicate in proper English you can pretend that you are in any way capable of "debate." Until then you are just an idiotic loser playing games online.

He is living proof of our failing school systems.

That’s all I’m trying to do is shed light on your democrat failures

Your every post sheds light on how fucked up our education system is because someone like you made it out of high school not knowing even the most basic grammar.

You know what they say about grammar police online... they lost the argument lol

 

[Coyote]

They came to your house and told you you couldn't send your kid to a private school?

Sounds to me like you are just wanting free stuff.

Are you actually going to pretend that taxes are paid voluntarily?

Got it. You just free stuff some one else has to pay for.

Huh?

I think it's you that wants free stuff that someone else has to pay for.

Not at all. I pay for schools. I am not the one running around whining and demanding others pay to send my kids to some elite private school. Pay for it yourself. Isn't that what you tell others about stuff like free contraception or medical care? Pay for it yourself.

You want me to pay for your schools. I don't want your government brainwashing mills. You demand that I send my kids to the cesspools that you want. When are you going to pay for it yourself?

Who do you think you're fooling?

Dude. I don't have kids. So I am paying for other people's kids - like yours. We owe everyone in this country an education (that benefits America as a whole). We are rare in that we do not charge extra for education - it comes out of our general taxes. That is a pretty good system. That doesn't mean you get an elite education or a special religious education - it means you get the basics and make the best of what you have and if it sucks - you try to get your kids into something alternate. But don't expect the rest of us to pay for you.

 

[Coyote]

Got it. You just free stuff some one else has to pay for.

Huh?

I think it's you that wants free stuff that someone else has to pay for.

Not at all. I pay for schools. I am not the one running around whining and demanding others pay to send my kids to some elite private school. Pay for it yourself. Isn't that what you tell others about stuff like free contraception or medical care? Pay for it yourself.

You want me to pay for your schools. I don't want your government brainwashing mills. You demand that I send my kids to the cesspools that you want. When are you going to pay for it yourself?

Who do you think you're fooling?

You don't get that choice. I may not want to pay for your fire department, but I do because I have to do so, even though I pay a volunteer fire department where I live.

That's the problem with the system you endorse: I don't get a choice.

Yes. You do. You get the same choice the rest of us do when we pay for our own contraceptives and health care and abortions.

Don't expect us to pay for YOU.

 

[Coyote]

And you were not a teacher or school administrator and know nothing about education. You also don't realize that you never apologized.

The theory that only teachers and school administrators know about education was invented by teachers and school administrators. I taught my stepson how to read and do arithmetic, not any god damned public school teachers. They didn't teach him a thing.

Did you teach him chemistry, calculus, biology, etc? If not, that can be accomplished by a middle school dropout.

He was no longer my stepson at that point, but I easily could have. Home schoolers manage to teach all these subjects.

Home schoolers are self-designated, meaning they have zero qualifications. For every success you hear about, there are many more that have to return to public schools years behind their peers in education. I know because I had to teach high schools how to divide.

Nevertheless, home schooled kids outperform kids in public schools by a million miles. Your claim about them being years behind is pure moonshine. It's government school propaganda.

Research Facts on Homeschooling - National Home Education Research Institute

• The home-educated typically score 15 to 30 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. (The public school average is the 50th percentile; scores range from 1 to 99.) A 2015 study found Black homeschool students to be scoring 23 to 42 percentile points above Black public school students (Ray, 2015).
• Homeschool students score above average on achievement tests regardless of their parents’ level of formal education or their family’s household income.
• Whether homeschool parents were ever certified teachers is not related to their children’s academic achievement.
• Degree of state control and regulation of homeschooling is not related to academic achievement.
• Home-educated students typically score above average on the SAT and ACT tests that colleges consider for admissions.
• Homeschool students are increasingly being actively recruited by colleges.

If people want to homeschool - kudos to them - as long as they can meet the benchmarks.

I have no problem with homeschooling. Or public schools.

 

[Coyote]

Tomorrow’s headlines: Trump administration destroys Christmas for hundreds of families.

I’m hoping in his second term Trump eliminates the Department altogether.

Betsy DeVos has cut 600 staff positions at the Department of Education.

“I have long advocated for the notion that it would be great to work myself out of a job,” she said.

She has never had to work for a living g.

So what? The same could be said of 90% or more of the members of the House and Senate.

Likely. But they aren't the topic of conversation nor are they the ones saying it's awesome to work oneself out of a job....are they?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When you want to debate actually issues let’s talk, all you do is troll me......

When you can communicate in proper English you can pretend that you are in any way capable of "debate." Until then you are just an idiotic loser playing games online.

He is living proof of our failing school systems.

That’s all I’m trying to do is shed light on your democrat failures

Your every post sheds light on how fucked up our education system is because someone like you made it out of high school not knowing even the most basic grammar.

You know what they say about grammar police online... they lost the argument lol

How is that coo coming along?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

View attachment 296976

Yep. Obama made political appointees “civil servants” so Trump couldn’t purge them. Many hired after Trump victory to flood Washington DC with communist.

Why is the number of civil servants under Trump rising so fast?

How many of those are civilian workers at Pentagon? He’s working on it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5e2dfe-54c0-11e9-9136-f8e636f1f6df_story.html

You know....civilian workers at Pentagon can be liberals also...

You know....civilian workers at Pentagon can be liberals also...

And Greta Thunberg can get a job at a coal plant too.

I love ignorance on display.

 

[Coyote]

You want me to pay for your schools. I don't want your government brainwashing mills. You demand that I send my kids to the cesspools that you want. When are you going to pay for it yourself?

Who do you think you're fooling?

You don't get that choice. I may not want to pay for your fire department, but I do because I have to do so, even though I pay a volunteer fire department where I live.

That's the problem with the system you endorse: I don't get a choice.

If you don't want a choice, feel free to go live off the grid where you never have contact with humans. That is your choice. Suck it up, buttercup!

He does whine a lot about this being forced bullshit but lacks the balls to do anything about it. He just likes to whine.

What do you propose I do about, shithead, start shooting up public schools?

You're such a fucking moron.

Do what the rest of us do - suck it up buttercup.

 

[Unkotare]

When you want to debate actually issues let’s talk, all you do is troll me......

When you can communicate in proper English you can pretend that you are in any way capable of "debate." Until then you are just an idiotic loser playing games online.

He is living proof of our failing school systems.

That’s all I’m trying to do is shed light on your democrat failures

Your every post sheds light on how fucked up our education system is because someone like you made it out of high school not knowing even the most basic grammar.

You know what they say about grammar police online... l

They say illiterate trolls like you should learn from them.

 

[Coyote]

When you can communicate in proper English you can pretend that you are in any way capable of "debate." Until then you are just an idiotic loser playing games online.

He is living proof of our failing school systems.

That’s all I’m trying to do is shed light on your democrat failures

Your every post sheds light on how fucked up our education system is because someone like you made it out of high school not knowing even the most basic grammar.

You know what they say about grammar police online... l

They say illiterate trolls like you should learn from them.

You and Admiral Rockwell Tory are actually (or were) teachers right?

Most of those bitching aren't.

 

[Markle]

You know what they say about grammar police online... they lost the argument lol

Except sometimes the grammar and punctuation is so bad the post makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Markle]

Tomorrow’s headlines: Trump administration destroys Christmas for hundreds of families.

I’m hoping in his second term Trump eliminates the Department altogether.

Betsy DeVos has cut 600 staff positions at the Department of Education.

“I have long advocated for the notion that it would be great to work myself out of a job,” she said.

She has never had to work for a living g.

So what? The same could be said of 90% or more of the members of the House and Senate.

Likely. But they aren't the topic of conversation nor are they the ones saying it's awesome to work oneself out of a job....are they?

They should want to work themselves out of a job too. One way or another.

 

[Jitss617]

When you can communicate in proper English you can pretend that you are in any way capable of "debate." Until then you are just an idiotic loser playing games online.

He is living proof of our failing school systems.

That’s all I’m trying to do is shed light on your democrat failures

Your every post sheds light on how fucked up our education system is because someone like you made it out of high school not knowing even the most basic grammar.

You know what they say about grammar police online... they lost the argument lol

How is that coo coming along?

Not good trump isn’t getting impeached.. lol

mic drop

 

[Oldstyle]

No surprise.........she's a charter school zealot who wants to destroy the public schools.

Dude, the public school system existed LONG before the Department of Education! That didn't even come into being until 1979. Getting rid of a bloated and expensive department of government that isn't really needed isn't a bad thing. Unless of course you're liberal and you don't want to lose a high paying job where you don't do shit! In that case you probably think the Department of Education is more important than the Department of Defense!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You need people from DC to run your local school?

Are you really that stupid?

Gratuitous insults meant to divert attention away from DeVos' agenda to expand the reach of charter schools is noted. The primary functions of the Dept. of Ed are to establish policy for, administer and coordinate most federal assistance to education, collect data on US schools, and to enforce federal educational laws regarding privacy and civil rights. Ignorance gets you nowhere with me.

I support her agenda 100%. None of the functions you listed are necessary. Get rid of the DOE.

But....but.....we need a $68B department to collect data! What’s all that data going to do just sitting out there in a huge void?

You do know that over $22 billion out of that $68 billion are Pell Grants.

The government has one quality unmet by private enterprise. The ability to write checks.

Pell Grants could be block grants written to the states to manage as they wish. That would eliminate the useless Department of Education.

Yes, give control back to the states that refused to educate the poor, minorities, and handicapped for decades before the Education Department came into existent. You simply do not know the history.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And you were not a teacher or school administrator and know nothing about education. You also don't realize that you never apologized.

The theory that only teachers and school administrators know about education was invented by teachers and school administrators. I taught my stepson how to read and do arithmetic, not any god damned public school teachers. They didn't teach him a thing.

Did you teach him chemistry, calculus, biology, etc? If not, that can be accomplished by a middle school dropout.

He was no longer my stepson at that point, but I easily could have. Home schoolers manage to teach all these subjects.

Home schoolers are self-designated, meaning they have zero qualifications. For every success you hear about, there are many more that have to return to public schools years behind their peers in education. I know because I had to teach high schools how to divide.

Nevertheless, home schooled kids outperform kids in public schools by a million miles. Your claim about them being years behind is pure moonshine. It's government school propaganda.

Research Facts on Homeschooling - National Home Education Research Institute

• The home-educated typically score 15 to 30 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. (The public school average is the 50th percentile; scores range from 1 to 99.) A 2015 study found Black homeschool students to be scoring 23 to 42 percentile points above Black public school students (Ray, 2015).
• Homeschool students score above average on achievement tests regardless of their parents’ level of formal education or their family’s household income.
• Whether homeschool parents were ever certified teachers is not related to their children’s academic achievement.
• Degree of state control and regulation of homeschooling is not related to academic achievement.
• Home-educated students typically score above average on the SAT and ACT tests that colleges consider for admissions.
• Homeschool students are increasingly being actively recruited by colleges.

You know damn well that pollsters and liberals lie. You are using a source that makes its money off home schooling! Why should they tell the truth and cut their own throat?

The stats you cited can easily be disputed because home school students are almost NEVER required to take standardized tests so that a valid comparison can be made. I have posted this many times in the education topic. If you have a kid not going to college, would you force them to take the ACT? Of course not. That is called self-selection bias and is common to home schooling supporters as grains of sand on a beach.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You need people from DC to run your local school?

Are you really that stupid?

Gratuitous insults meant to divert attention away from DeVos' agenda to expand the reach of charter schools is noted. The primary functions of the Dept. of Ed are to establish policy for, administer and coordinate most federal assistance to education, collect data on US schools, and to enforce federal educational laws regarding privacy and civil rights. Ignorance gets you nowhere with me.

I support her agenda 100%. None of the functions you listed are necessary. Get rid of the DOE.

Of course you do. You support all the stupid ideas.

Which "stupid ideas" are those?

The Wall, the Space Force, multiple foreign wars, lowering the minimum wage, sucking up to Putin - and that's just off the top of my head.

The wall,and the Space Force are not stupid.

Which foreign war did Trump start?

Lowering the minimum wage? Are you on crack?

Slapping Russia with sanctions is sucking up?

You need a new head if that is what is coming off the top of it! Pure bullshit!