Bibi gives presentation on finding yellow cake in Iran

(sigh) Yes, they do.
You have absolutely no idea why the hatred is the way it is, nor do you understand the Shia belief system. You cannot ascribe Western values to a Religion that prides itself on using it's adherents blowing themselves up.

The Shia and Jewish faiths are ancient. The hatred is relatively new and created by the Christians .

Haha, good joke, it might be believable to those with very limited views of the World, you know like the ones who don't know that a lot of Muslim Turkic tribes participated in the Golden Horde led by Genghiz Khan, or that the World's biggest genocide in the World happened when Muslim occupation of India killed 100's of millions, or that the biggest slave trade was by Arab slavers.

Keep in mind, that all these were before just about every single White Colonial atrocities...

How about recent history .

The creation of modern Israel caused a domino effect of hostility in the Mid East. How good of the white man to ship the Jews out of Europe and into the Arab world !

But hey. That’s bygones . Israel is going nowhere and everyone knows that . They are a great scapegoat for Arab/ Persian leaders , and same for Israel leaders .

Don’t ever kid yourself that Bibi has the USA interest in mind. .

I will not allow you to deflect kid. You made a stupid statement, I proved it wrong. Just because you are an idiot lying hack in no way means everyone else is. The issue is Religious and it stretches back centuries. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map, Israel gets to defend itself.

Why doesn't Palestine get to defend iitself?

Are you really this obtuse son?
 

That was alqaeda. ISIS didn't start with their reign of terror until around 2010.

It did take them a while to work up to being able to do what they did, that is for sure. It is the same group, they just changed their name. It like like Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC..same place different name.

What created ISIS was the removal of Saddam. There never would have been an ISIS had Saddam still be in power, he would have quashed them at the beginning. That is just one of many consequences of the invasion of Iraq
And saddam was the worst dictator since Hitler, Killed millions of people

So what? Are you now a supporter of the US invading the country of every evil dictator?

And for all of his evilness, he was not as bad as ISIS


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No, I’m against the foreign wars especially Afghanistan.
I’m just saying Saddam Hussein was not a saint, obviously you admired him...

Fuck off. I did not admire him but I am smart enough to understand the role he played in the Middle East.

Everyone with a brain tried to tell the idiots what would happen when Saddam was suddenly removed, and they were 100% correct.


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(sigh) Yes, they do.
You have absolutely no idea why the hatred is the way it is, nor do you understand the Shia belief system. You cannot ascribe Western values to a Religion that prides itself on using it's adherents blowing themselves up.

The Shia and Jewish faiths are ancient. The hatred is relatively new and created by the Christians .

Haha, good joke, it might be believable to those with very limited views of the World, you know like the ones who don't know that a lot of Muslim Turkic tribes participated in the Golden Horde led by Genghiz Khan, or that the World's biggest genocide in the World happened when Muslim occupation of India killed 100's of millions, or that the biggest slave trade was by Arab slavers.

Keep in mind, that all these were before just about every single White Colonial atrocities...

How about recent history .

The creation of modern Israel caused a domino effect of hostility in the Mid East. How good of the white man to ship the Jews out of Europe and into the Arab world !

But hey. That’s bygones . Israel is going nowhere and everyone knows that . They are a great scapegoat for Arab/ Persian leaders , and same for Israel leaders .

Don’t ever kid yourself that Bibi has the USA interest in mind. .

I will not allow you to deflect kid. You made a stupid statement, I proved it wrong. Just because you are an idiot lying hack in no way means everyone else is. The issue is Religious and it stretches back centuries. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map, Israel gets to defend itself.

Why doesn't Palestine get to defend iitself?

Do you know what this is?

depositphotos_1144066-stock-photo-a-chess-figure-is-a.jpg
 
That was alqaeda. ISIS didn't start with their reign of terror until around 2010.

It did take them a while to work up to being able to do what they did, that is for sure. It is the same group, they just changed their name. It like like Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC..same place different name.

What created ISIS was the removal of Saddam. There never would have been an ISIS had Saddam still be in power, he would have quashed them at the beginning. That is just one of many consequences of the invasion of Iraq
And saddam was the worst dictator since Hitler, Killed millions of people

So what? Are you now a supporter of the US invading the country of every evil dictator?

And for all of his evilness, he was not as bad as ISIS


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No, I’m against the foreign wars especially Afghanistan.
I’m just saying Saddam Hussein was not a saint, obviously you admired him...

Fuck off. I did not admire him but I am smart enough to understand the role he played in the Middle East.

Everyone with a brain tried to tell the idiots what would happen when Saddam was suddenly removed, and they were 100% correct.


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For someone who thinks so highly of himself you are woefully uniformed.
 
The Shia and Jewish faiths are ancient. The hatred is relatively new and created by the Christians .

Haha, good joke, it might be believable to those with very limited views of the World, you know like the ones who don't know that a lot of Muslim Turkic tribes participated in the Golden Horde led by Genghiz Khan, or that the World's biggest genocide in the World happened when Muslim occupation of India killed 100's of millions, or that the biggest slave trade was by Arab slavers.

Keep in mind, that all these were before just about every single White Colonial atrocities...

How about recent history .

The creation of modern Israel caused a domino effect of hostility in the Mid East. How good of the white man to ship the Jews out of Europe and into the Arab world !

But hey. That’s bygones . Israel is going nowhere and everyone knows that . They are a great scapegoat for Arab/ Persian leaders , and same for Israel leaders .

Don’t ever kid yourself that Bibi has the USA interest in mind. .

I will not allow you to deflect kid. You made a stupid statement, I proved it wrong. Just because you are an idiot lying hack in no way means everyone else is. The issue is Religious and it stretches back centuries. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map, Israel gets to defend itself.

Why doesn't Palestine get to defend iitself?

Are you really this obtuse son?

That's mouthing off, not a real answer.

Why are many Zionists such brutes?
 
That was alqaeda. ISIS didn't start with their reign of terror until around 2010.

It did take them a while to work up to being able to do what they did, that is for sure. It is the same group, they just changed their name. It like like Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC..same place different name.

What created ISIS was the removal of Saddam. There never would have been an ISIS had Saddam still be in power, he would have quashed them at the beginning. That is just one of many consequences of the invasion of Iraq
And saddam was the worst dictator since Hitler, Killed millions of people

So what? Are you now a supporter of the US invading the country of every evil dictator?

And for all of his evilness, he was not as bad as ISIS


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No, I’m against the foreign wars especially Afghanistan.
I’m just saying Saddam Hussein was not a saint, obviously you admired him...

Fuck off. I did not admire him but I am smart enough to understand the role he played in the Middle East.

Everyone with a brain tried to tell the idiots what would happen when Saddam was suddenly removed, and they were 100% correct.


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Saddam was not “balance” he sponsored Terrorism against Israel non-stop.
And his kids would’ve been equally awful.
There will never be peace in the Middle East because Muslims want to wipe Israel from existence that’s just a fact. But you’re just too stupid to realize that
 
(sigh) Yes, they do.
You have absolutely no idea why the hatred is the way it is, nor do you understand the Shia belief system. You cannot ascribe Western values to a Religion that prides itself on using it's adherents blowing themselves up.

The Shia and Jewish faiths are ancient. The hatred is relatively new and created by the Christians .

Haha, good joke, it might be believable to those with very limited views of the World, you know like the ones who don't know that a lot of Muslim Turkic tribes participated in the Golden Horde led by Genghiz Khan, or that the World's biggest genocide in the World happened when Muslim occupation of India killed 100's of millions, or that the biggest slave trade was by Arab slavers.

Keep in mind, that all these were before just about every single White Colonial atrocities...

How about recent history .

The creation of modern Israel caused a domino effect of hostility in the Mid East. How good of the white man to ship the Jews out of Europe and into the Arab world !

But hey. That’s bygones . Israel is going nowhere and everyone knows that . They are a great scapegoat for Arab/ Persian leaders , and same for Israel leaders .

Don’t ever kid yourself that Bibi has the USA interest in mind. .

I will not allow you to deflect kid. You made a stupid statement, I proved it wrong. Just because you are an idiot lying hack in no way means everyone else is. The issue is Religious and it stretches back centuries. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map, Israel gets to defend itself.

Why doesn't Palestine get to defend iitself?

Palestine never was a state. It was never their land nor will ever be their land.
 
And why is Israel being allowed to bomb Syria daily? Syria's Civil War had nothing to do with Israel. Do we still respect International Laws and norms? The world should be condemning Israel for its numerous unprovoked attacks on Syria. Looks like it is a rigged system. I mean, if Syria was bombing Israel daily, the reaction would be very different.

Because Iran has been provoking them. Iran has troops entrenched on the Golan, that would be like Russia having a Base in Tijuana.

In Golan... I would get a check on your information...

Have drinking buddies who served as UN peacekeepers in Lebanon, there job is to sit between Hezbollah and Israeli and protect the villages. They make no exception but Israel is far the more aggressive force and has killed more Irish troops than Hezbollah. Hezbollah every now and then do something but it is usually in retaliation to something the IDF did, but then IDF go nuts, cluster bombs is one of there favourites...

I have worked and socialised with Israelis too and they serve 6 weeks in the IDF a year... They generally break, these would be reasonably moderates... They don't mind serving there countries but consider illegal settlers as scum, 'What guy brings his family into a war zone, then arms himself to the teeth with his children around him'... They consider them leachers of the state and most aren't even from Israel.
As for defending there boarders they are pretty strong about that but see no reason for cluster bombs...
 
And why is Israel being allowed to bomb Syria daily? Syria's Civil War had nothing to do with Israel. Do we still respect International Laws and norms? The world should be condemning Israel for its numerous unprovoked attacks on Syria. Looks like it is a rigged system. I mean, if Syria was bombing Israel daily, the reaction would be very different.

Because Iran has been provoking them. Iran has troops entrenched on the Golan, that would be like Russia having a Base in Tijuana.

In Golan... I would get a check on your information...

Have drinking buddies who served as UN peacekeepers in Lebanon, there job is to sit between Hezbollah and Israeli and protect the villages. They make no exception but Israel is far the more aggressive force and has killed more Irish troops than Hezbollah. Hezbollah every now and then do something but it is usually in retaliation to something the IDF did, but then IDF go nuts, cluster bombs is one of there favourites...

I have worked and socialised with Israelis too and they serve 6 weeks in the IDF a year... They generally break, these would be reasonably moderates... They don't mind serving there countries but consider illegal settlers as scum, 'What guy brings his family into a war zone, then arms himself to the teeth with his children around him'... They consider them leachers of the state and most aren't even from Israel.
As for defending there boarders they are pretty strong about that but see no reason for cluster bombs...

I've been on the Golan, sorry. I also had the privilege of plying Black Jack with two Israeli Soldiers for a full night in Vegas. They loved the Palestinian people and truly were heat broken over their plight. The problem ISN'T the Palestinians, it's Hamas and the PLO. They do not want peace and they use the every day Palestinians as pawns. My info on the Golan is spot on.
 
Haha, good joke, it might be believable to those with very limited views of the World, you know like the ones who don't know that a lot of Muslim Turkic tribes participated in the Golden Horde led by Genghiz Khan, or that the World's biggest genocide in the World happened when Muslim occupation of India killed 100's of millions, or that the biggest slave trade was by Arab slavers.

Keep in mind, that all these were before just about every single White Colonial atrocities...

How about recent history .

The creation of modern Israel caused a domino effect of hostility in the Mid East. How good of the white man to ship the Jews out of Europe and into the Arab world !

But hey. That’s bygones . Israel is going nowhere and everyone knows that . They are a great scapegoat for Arab/ Persian leaders , and same for Israel leaders .

Don’t ever kid yourself that Bibi has the USA interest in mind. .

I will not allow you to deflect kid. You made a stupid statement, I proved it wrong. Just because you are an idiot lying hack in no way means everyone else is. The issue is Religious and it stretches back centuries. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map, Israel gets to defend itself.

Why doesn't Palestine get to defend iitself?

Are you really this obtuse son?

That's mouthing off, not a real answer.

Why are many Zionists such brutes?

Do you even now you? All you do is "mouth off" kid.
Do you knw what this is?

depositphotos_1144066-stock-photo-a-chess-figure-is-a.jpg
 
That was alqaeda. ISIS didn't start with their reign of terror until around 2010.

It did take them a while to work up to being able to do what they did, that is for sure. It is the same group, they just changed their name. It like like Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC..same place different name.

What created ISIS was the removal of Saddam. There never would have been an ISIS had Saddam still be in power, he would have quashed them at the beginning. That is just one of many consequences of the invasion of Iraq
And saddam was the worst dictator since Hitler, Killed millions of people

So what? Are you now a supporter of the US invading the country of every evil dictator?

And for all of his evilness, he was not as bad as ISIS


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No, I’m against the foreign wars especially Afghanistan.
I’m just saying Saddam Hussein was not a saint, obviously you admired him...

Fuck off. I did not admire him but I am smart enough to understand the role he played in the Middle East.

Everyone with a brain tried to tell the idiots what would happen when Saddam was suddenly removed, and they were 100% correct.


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Tell me, beyond the Political and Human toll, what is different in Iraq as to before the war and after the war?
 
Haha, good joke, it might be believable to those with very limited views of the World, you know like the ones who don't know that a lot of Muslim Turkic tribes participated in the Golden Horde led by Genghiz Khan, or that the World's biggest genocide in the World happened when Muslim occupation of India killed 100's of millions, or that the biggest slave trade was by Arab slavers.

Keep in mind, that all these were before just about every single White Colonial atrocities...

How about recent history .

The creation of modern Israel caused a domino effect of hostility in the Mid East. How good of the white man to ship the Jews out of Europe and into the Arab world !

But hey. That’s bygones . Israel is going nowhere and everyone knows that . They are a great scapegoat for Arab/ Persian leaders , and same for Israel leaders .

Don’t ever kid yourself that Bibi has the USA interest in mind. .

I will not allow you to deflect kid. You made a stupid statement, I proved it wrong. Just because you are an idiot lying hack in no way means everyone else is. The issue is Religious and it stretches back centuries. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map, Israel gets to defend itself.

Why doesn't Palestine get to defend iitself?

Are you really this obtuse son?

That's mouthing off, not a real answer.

Why are many Zionists such brutes?

First, show me that you what is and what isn't a "Zionist" in relation to Israel.
 
And why is Israel being allowed to bomb Syria daily? Syria's Civil War had nothing to do with Israel. Do we still respect International Laws and norms? The world should be condemning Israel for its numerous unprovoked attacks on Syria. Looks like it is a rigged system. I mean, if Syria was bombing Israel daily, the reaction would be very different.

Because Iran has been provoking them. Iran has troops entrenched on the Golan, that would be like Russia having a Base in Tijuana.

In Golan... I would get a check on your information...

Have drinking buddies who served as UN peacekeepers in Lebanon, there job is to sit between Hezbollah and Israeli and protect the villages. They make no exception but Israel is far the more aggressive force and has killed more Irish troops than Hezbollah. Hezbollah every now and then do something but it is usually in retaliation to something the IDF did, but then IDF go nuts, cluster bombs is one of there favourites...

I have worked and socialised with Israelis too and they serve 6 weeks in the IDF a year... They generally break, these would be reasonably moderates... They don't mind serving there countries but consider illegal settlers as scum, 'What guy brings his family into a war zone, then arms himself to the teeth with his children around him'... They consider them leachers of the state and most aren't even from Israel.
As for defending there boarders they are pretty strong about that but see no reason for cluster bombs...

I've been on the Golan, sorry. I also had the privilege of plying Black Jack with two Israeli Soldiers for a full night in Vegas. They loved the Palestinian people and truly were heat broken over their plight. The problem ISN'T the Palestinians, it's Hamas and the PLO. They do not want peace and they use the every day Palestinians as pawns. My info on the Golan is spot on.

As an aside, I treasure this as one of the great nights of my life.
 
And you didn't see that Israel is occupying illegally the Syrian Golan heights ? The whole world recognizes it as an illegal occupation and you are concerned about Iranians being legally invited to syria ?
Israel has been bombing Israel with no provocation...what's your take?

So when another Nation attacks you and you kick their asses you're just supposed to give the conquered territory back. I don't think so Tim.

Israel has been bombing Israel for no reason?
When was the last time did syria attack isrsel ro deserve to be bombed recently while in a civil war?

You didn't answer the question. A Nation attacks you, you kick heir asses, and you're just supposed to return the taken territory?
Israel occupy a land that needs to give back. Heard of the french in Africa? British all over the world and here in the US?
Are you for imperialism?
It does not matter where Jews live, Muslims will not be happy till they are exterminated... The Koran demands it
Wrong Jews lived in Muslim countries for hundreds of years and still do. Infact when they were chased out by Christian's in Europe they fled to Muslim countries....I bet you didn't know that. Even in the peak of the Islamic empire in southern Europe the Jews thrived unlike when the Christians took over.
 
And why is Israel being allowed to bomb Syria daily? Syria's Civil War had nothing to do with Israel. Do we still respect International Laws and norms? The world should be condemning Israel for its numerous unprovoked attacks on Syria. Looks like it is a rigged system. I mean, if Syria was bombing Israel daily, the reaction would be very different.
You voted for the complete opposite

Trump is beholden to Israel just as his numerous predecessors were. Personally, i'm fine with Israel being a close ally, but it's gone so much further than that. It seems like it now controls our Foreign Policy in the region. The World Community should be condemning Israel's daily attacks on Syria. Yet it's been completely silent.

Syria's Civil War had nothing to do with Israel. Israel has no right to bomb Syria indiscriminately. And now it wants to attack Iran. It's time for us to break a bit from Israel's Foreign Policy. We need to get back to going our own way.
So you believe Israel is forcing the US to use tax payer money to pay terrorists families when a family member goes all jihad? Really?
 
Israel has stolen nothing from Syria.
Except land and water. But I see you agree with at least some of what Dayan says, perhaps without even knowing it.

Dayan In 1976: Israel Took Golan Out Of Greed

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com

The standard Israeli justification for the battle of the Golan has been that Syrian troops had been relentlessly shelling Israelis and that the situation had grown intolerable.

This is what Dayan said nine years later:

"The Syrians opposite them were soldiers who shot at them, and they certainly didn't like that. But I can say with absolute certainty that the delegation that came to convince Eshkol to ascend the Golan did not think about these things. They thought about the land of the Golan.

"I know what went on. I saw them and I spoke with them. They didn't even try to hide their lust for that soil. That's what guided them."
[...]

Apart from his assertion about the cause of the Golan battle, Dayan also spoke of the Syrian attacks on the Israeli kibbutzim and asserted that they were the result of Israeli aggression.

He said: "Eighty percent of the incidents worked like this: we would send tractors to plow in an area of little use, in a demilitarized zone, knowing ahead of time that the Syrians would shoot. If they didn't start shooting, we would tell the tractors to advance until the Syrians would get aggravated and start shooting. We used artillery and later the air force became involved."

Dayan said this was the policy for years and that former northern military commanders, later including Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, consistently used such tactics.

He said that after the 1948 war of independence, Israel was unhappy with the cease-fire lines and wanted to change them "through military actions that were not quite at the level of war. The idea was to seize an area and hold on to it until the enemy despairs and gives it to us."
Anyway, happy hasbara.
Irrelevant. Syria waged war against Israel, lost land and then refused to make peace to get it back, effectively abandoning the Golan. It is part of Israel now and Syria is a failed state.
 
You do realize that Iran has sent armed drones into Israel AND that they (Iran) has troops entrenched on the Syria side of the Golan?
Bullshit....and there you said it "the syria side"....Israel is a thug and acts like one.

It wasn't the FIRST time I've said it dumbass. Why is Iran in Syria, entrenched on the Syrian side of the Golan? If you truly think Israel should give it back you're an idiot.

Iran and Syria haven't attacked Israel. So why has Israel been allowed to bomb those nations with impunity? If the situation were reversed, i'm sure the reaction would be much different. Israel needs to be reigned in.
Go ahead...reign them in.

We could reign it in if we stopped supporting everything it does in the Middle East. We don't always have to go along. We need separation form Israel's Foreign Policy. We're a sovereign nation that needs to go its own way sometimes. Time for some disengagement from the Middle East.
I agree.
I’m anxious for Israel to wipe it’s enemies off the face of the planet.
But then the rest of the planet will jump right back in and piss you off again.
 
Israel has stolen nothing from Syria. Syria recklessly went to war with Israel twice and has since foolishly refused to make peace with Israel despite repeated Israeli offers to return the Golan in return for peace. It is fair to say that at this point, Syria has abandoned its claim to the Golan.
You can't return what you don't have. The Golan Heights is not Israeli property. Israel just needs to get the fuck off it!
Clearly, Israel does have the Golan and Syria has repeatedly refused to make peace with Israel in order to get it back, thus effectively abandoning its claim to the Golan. At this point, with Syria being a failed state, it is in everyone's best interests that the Golan is now part of Israel.
 
Yes they don’t like each other . That’s my point .

It’s all talk and propaganda.Iran has no intention of messing with Israel .

(sigh) Yes, they do.
You have absolutely no idea why the hatred is the way it is, nor do you understand the Shia belief system. You cannot ascribe Western values to a Religion that prides itself on using it's adherents blowing themselves up.

The Shia and Jewish faiths are ancient. The hatred is relatively new and created by the Christians .

Haha, good joke, it might be believable to those with very limited views of the World, you know like the ones who don't know that a lot of Muslim Turkic tribes participated in the Golden Horde led by Genghiz Khan, or that the World's biggest genocide in the World happened when Muslim occupation of India killed 100's of millions, or that the biggest slave trade was by Arab slavers.

Keep in mind, that all these were before just about every single White Colonial atrocities...

How about recent history .

The creation of modern Israel caused a domino effect of hostility in the Mid East. How good of the white man to ship the Jews out of Europe and into the Arab world !

But hey. That’s bygones . Israel is going nowhere and everyone knows that . They are a great scapegoat for Arab/ Persian leaders , and same for Israel leaders .

Don’t ever kid yourself that Bibi has the USA interest in mind. .

I will not allow you to deflect kid. You made a stupid statement, I proved it wrong. Just because you are an idiot lying hack in no way means everyone else is. The issue is Religious and it stretches back centuries. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map, Israel gets to defend itself.

You are the one who is wrong . Until the creation of Israel , Muslims and Jews got along rather well.
 

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