Biden just said he's planning to build trains that travel as fast as commercial jets

I’ve never been on a train for a long trip but I can’t imagine you don’t check your bags. I don’t see everyone going to their seats with two rolling suit cases. No way.

Second, there’s no chance these trains won’t have a two hour check in time with TSA and all the same shit they have at airports. We used to run into an airport 15 minutes before take off, not now. Trains would be the same.

Third, and this is the technical part. You can’t just have a train going LA to NY like a direct flight. It’s not feasable, cost wise or use wise. The train would have to stop. A lot. So what stops? Let’s say LA, SLC, Denver, KC, STL, Chicago, Philly, NYC? Something like that. You aren’t smoking through those cities at 350 mph, sudden stop, 15 minute unload reload time and back to 350 mph. It’s an hour per stop minimum after slowing down well before getting there and leaving.

None of it makes sense as a tax payer investment. If a private railroad thinks they can do it I’m all for it. Not all of us paying for this mess.

Also, high speed trains only hit top speeds on long, straight, flat stretches of track. Do you envision a lot of those going over the Rocky Mountains, the Appalachians, the Sierras? Biden is an idiot.
 
True. Of course the much vaunted Erostar trains require huge ralroad stations at both ends and hours-long waits in security lines before boarding. But they cover their 20 miles in just a few minutes. If ou're headed for Paris hand-carry your luggage or take a slow train to Brussels to look for it.


Many high-speed rail lines around the world lose money and have to be subsidized year after year by taxpayers.
 
Boston is tiny in terms of area. But more to the point, whenever I went to Boston (by plane) I got into and out of it via the "T" ---- which, for those not familiar .... IS A TRAIN.

These days there's a free bus to downtown. Distance is a couple of miles. But I guess in a Zimmer frame that would take you a bit of time. Were fares still a nickle in those days?
 
Also, high speed trains only hit top speeds on long, straight, flat stretches of track. Do you envision a lot of those going over the Rocky Mountains, the Appalachians, the Sierras? Biden is an idiot.


Tunnels. Of which there are many long ones for railroads.


But they are very costly.
 
I’ve never been on a train for a long trip but I can’t imagine you don’t check your bags. I don’t see everyone going to their seats with two rolling suit cases. No way.

Yeah you do. I've crossed the country by train.

Second, there’s no chance these trains won’t have a two hour check in time with TSA and all the same shit they have at airports. We used to run into an airport 15 minutes before take off, not now. Trains would be the same.

Speculation fallacy.

Third, and this is the technical part. You can’t just have a train going LA to NY like a direct flight. It’s not feasable, cost wise or use wise. The train would have to stop. A lot. So what stops? Let’s say LA, SLC, Denver, KC, STL, Chicago, Philly, NYC? Something like that. You aren’t smoking through those cities at 350 mph, sudden stop, 15 minute unload reload time and back to 350 mph. It’s an hour per stop minimum after slowing down well before getting there and leaving.

None of it makes sense as a tax payer investment. If a private railroad thinks they can do it I’m all for it. Not all of us paying for this mess.

The OP wasn't about "taxpayer investment", nor was it about security lines. -- it was about speed. It was about reading comprehension and it was about not knowing what a real link is. But speaking of security checks, it's a fuck of a lot more dangerous to blow up a plane than a train, something about the relative altitude of each.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.


Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.
 
I’ve never been on a train for a long trip but I can’t imagine you don’t check your bags. I don’t see everyone going to their seats with two rolling suit cases. No way.

Second, there’s no chance these trains won’t have a two hour check in time with TSA and all the same shit they have at airports. We used to run into an airport 15 minutes before take off, not now. Trains would be the same.

Third, and this is the technical part. You can’t just have a train going LA to NY like a direct flight. It’s not feasable, cost wise or use wise. The train would have to stop. A lot. So what stops? Let’s say LA, SLC, Denver, KC, STL, Chicago, Philly, NYC? Something like that. You aren’t smoking through those cities at 350 mph, sudden stop, 15 minute unload reload time and back to 350 mph. It’s an hour per stop minimum after slowing down well before getting there and leaving.

None of it makes sense as a tax payer investment. If a private railroad thinks they can do it I’m all for it. Not all of us paying for this mess.

Also, high speed trains only hit top speeds on long, straight, flat stretches of track. Do you envision a lot of those going over the Rocky Mountains, the Appalachians, the Sierras? Biden is an idiot.

Did Biden start a thread using an image of a Twatter feed by a third party as its basis?

We STILL have no source for that yanno. Sixty-seven posts later.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.


So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.


Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.


Top speeds [sic] of which train? I've already posted that the TGV has done over 350. That's not even counting the hyperloop others have posted about which would double that. That hyperloop doesn't exist yet, but the alleged quote, again DOES say "imagine a world where", it does not say "you can do this right now".

Besides which, as I pointed out at the beginning of all this, plane travel involves a fuck of a lot more than just the flying, which adds hours to the trip.

I swear ta god summa y'all seem to have never been on a plane trip at all. Which is fine, but don't sit here and pontificate on something y'all don't understand.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, waiting for baggage carousels, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV. Even a slow train would beat the plane there.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

Airplanes are better for us. There is no track and other maintenance issues in the air. The track would need longer stretches of straighter lines and less curves. Progs do things just to be the opposite of others. They love big ticket items and expenses. You want a big ticket expense? Expand the space program in a huge way. Making sure the private side is involved with it.
 
The longest rail tunnel in the world cost a lot of money to build. The cost estimate of the project turned into a ~50% cost overrun. Imagine how much it would cost in America.

As of 1998, the total projected cost of the project was CHF 6.323 billion; as of December 2015, the final cost is projected as CHF 9.560 billion.

 
I’ve never been on a train for a long trip but I can’t imagine you don’t check your bags. I don’t see everyone going to their seats with two rolling suit cases. No way.

Second, there’s no chance these trains won’t have a two hour check in time with TSA and all the same shit they have at airports. We used to run into an airport 15 minutes before take off, not now. Trains would be the same.

Third, and this is the technical part. You can’t just have a train going LA to NY like a direct flight. It’s not feasable, cost wise or use wise. The train would have to stop. A lot. So what stops? Let’s say LA, SLC, Denver, KC, STL, Chicago, Philly, NYC? Something like that. You aren’t smoking through those cities at 350 mph, sudden stop, 15 minute unload reload time and back to 350 mph. It’s an hour per stop minimum after slowing down well before getting there and leaving.

None of it makes sense as a tax payer investment. If a private railroad thinks they can do it I’m all for it. Not all of us paying for this mess.

Also, high speed trains only hit top speeds on long, straight, flat stretches of track. Do you envision a lot of those going over the Rocky Mountains, the Appalachians, the Sierras? Biden is an idiot.

Did Biden start a thread using an image of a Twatter feed by a third party as its basis?

We STILL have no source for that yanno. Sixty-seven posts later.

Then stop contributing to the thread, dipshit.
 
I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, waiting for baggage carousels, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV. Even a slow train would beat the plane there.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

Airplanes are better for us. There is no track and other maintenance issues in the air. The track would need longer stretches of straighter lines and less curves. Progs do things just to be the opposite of others. They love big ticket items and expenses. You want a big ticket expense? Expand the space program in a huge way. Making sure the private side is involved with it.


There are not enough "Funnys" to cover the assertion that airplanes need no maintenance.
 
I’ve never been on a train for a long trip but I can’t imagine you don’t check your bags. I don’t see everyone going to their seats with two rolling suit cases. No way.

Second, there’s no chance these trains won’t have a two hour check in time with TSA and all the same shit they have at airports. We used to run into an airport 15 minutes before take off, not now. Trains would be the same.

Third, and this is the technical part. You can’t just have a train going LA to NY like a direct flight. It’s not feasable, cost wise or use wise. The train would have to stop. A lot. So what stops? Let’s say LA, SLC, Denver, KC, STL, Chicago, Philly, NYC? Something like that. You aren’t smoking through those cities at 350 mph, sudden stop, 15 minute unload reload time and back to 350 mph. It’s an hour per stop minimum after slowing down well before getting there and leaving.

None of it makes sense as a tax payer investment. If a private railroad thinks they can do it I’m all for it. Not all of us paying for this mess.

Also, high speed trains only hit top speeds on long, straight, flat stretches of track. Do you envision a lot of those going over the Rocky Mountains, the Appalachians, the Sierras? Biden is an idiot.

Did Biden start a thread using an image of a Twatter feed by a third party as its basis?

We STILL have no source for that yanno. Sixty-seven posts later.

Then stop contributing to the thread, dipshit.

ONE of us has to, you sure as fuck ain't doing it.
 
The longest rail tunnel in the world cost a lot of money to build. The cost estimate of the project turned into a ~50% cost overrun. Imagine how much it would cost in America.

As of 1998, the total projected cost of the project was CHF 6.323 billion; as of December 2015, the final cost is projected as CHF 9.560 billion.


Interestiing how you keep trying to change the topic from "how fast" to "how much cost".
 
Funny how you keep trying to change the topic from "how fast" to "how much cost".


LOL

The topic has evolved, sonny. Have a nice day.

Translation -- "waaahh, I don't wanna talk about that".

What you do in that case is start your own thread. Not that it's not amusing to watch the usual "will never work" naysayers, always has been. And speaking of has-beens, back to you.
 
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I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.



Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, waiting for baggage carousels, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV. Even a slow train would beat the plane there.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

Airplanes are better for us. There is no track and other maintenance issues in the air. The track would need longer stretches of straighter lines and less curves. Progs do things just to be the opposite of others. They love big ticket items and expenses. You want a big ticket expense? Expand the space program in a huge way. Making sure the private side is involved with it.


There are not enough "Funnys" to cover the assertion that airplanes need no maintenance.

Of course they do. So do trains. The sky needs no maintenance. It needs monitoring of course. Unless they take the tracks from conventional trains, where are they going to build these things? Is Biden going to enforce pure eminent domain on everything on their paths? That will make the residents in the way happy. The ironic thing is they may be easier to build in more rural areas to start. We will go from Fly Over to Roll Over.
 

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