Biden just said he's planning to build trains that travel as fast as commercial jets

[Missouri_Mike]

The longest rail tunnel in the world cost a lot of money to build. The cost estimate of the project turned into a ~50% cost overrun. Imagine how much it would cost in America.

As of 1998, the total projected cost of the project was CHF 6.323 billion; as of December 2015, the final cost is projected as CHF 9.560 billion.​

Wikiwand - Gotthard Base Tunnel

The Gotthard Base Tunnel is a railway tunnel through the Alps in Switzerland. It opened in June 2016 and full service began the following December. With a route length of 57.09 km (35.5 mi), it is the world's longest railway and deepest traffic tunnel and the first flat, low-level route through...

www.wikiwand.com

Interestiing how you keep trying to change the topic from "how fast" to "how much cost".

Speed costs. There’s a reason you drive a Prius not an F1 car. It’s expensive as fuck and in no way efficient beyond a certain level.

Aasaaaaaaaaaaand there we go again, trying to derail the topic from "how fast" to "how much". Y'all sure are scared of this topic.

You seem to be scared of the economics. They don’t get better by ignoring them.

 

[Nostra]

It doesn't matter what SIZE the airport is, it's going to be located well outside any populated area, for the obvious reason. And the time it takes to get from where you are TO it, to process you in there, to get from the destination airport to where you're actually GOING --- because nobody's destination is the airport except airport workers --- and processing you out of it, and ALL of that takes time. You don't gauge how long a trip takes by the flight time. That's only a piece of it. And most of that is pieces that simply do not exist on a train.

When you can do so without injuring yourself try Google Maps to see how far distant Logan International Airport is from downtown Boston.

Boston is tiny in terms of area. But more to the point, whenever I went to Boston (by plane) I got into and out of it via the "T" ---- which, for those not familiar .... IS A TRAIN.

Yeah, that Boston “Big Dig” was worth the money, huh?

 

[Manonthestreet]

 

[Nostra]

This is from fourteen years ago....

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Hey stupid, do you know what km/h means?

 

[White 6]

This is from fourteen years ago....

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Very cool video. Train was going 256mph. China has the longest high speed rail line in the world. Trains run it at 200 - 250 mph. The Beijing–Guangzhou–Shenzhen–Hong Kong high-speed railway. It is 2,230 kilometres (1,390 mi) long.
Construction started in 2005. The Wuhan–Guangzhou section opened in December 2009, the Guangzhou–Shenzhen section opened in December 2011, the Zhengzhou–Wuhan section opened in September 2012, and the Beijing–Zhengzhou section was opened in December 2012. The 36-kilometre (22 mi) cross-border Shenzhen–Hong Kong section opened on 23 September 2018.[4] The line is the world's longest high-speed rail route.
13 years for the construction of 1,390. Wow! Other countries have high speed rail. It is doable. High-speed rail is very cool. Closest I have been to it was KingsCross in London to Gatwick Airport. For me, it was very fast and very smooth compared to the regular rail service I took from the airport to get to London.

Beijing–Guangzhou high-speed railway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Pogo]

I’ve never been on a train for a long trip but I can’t imagine you don’t check your bags. I don’t see everyone going to their seats with two rolling suit cases. No way.

Yeah you do. I've crossed the country by train.

Second, there’s no chance these trains won’t have a two hour check in time with TSA and all the same shit they have at airports. We used to run into an airport 15 minutes before take off, not now. Trains would be the same.

Speculation fallacy.

Third, and this is the technical part. You can’t just have a train going LA to NY like a direct flight. It’s not feasable, cost wise or use wise. The train would have to stop. A lot. So what stops? Let’s say LA, SLC, Denver, KC, STL, Chicago, Philly, NYC? Something like that. You aren’t smoking through those cities at 350 mph, sudden stop, 15 minute unload reload time and back to 350 mph. It’s an hour per stop minimum after slowing down well before getting there and leaving.

None of it makes sense as a tax payer investment. If a private railroad thinks they can do it I’m all for it. Not all of us paying for this mess.

The OP wasn't about "taxpayer investment", nor was it about security lines. -- it was about speed. It was about reading comprehension and it was about not knowing what a real link is. But speaking of security checks, it's a fuck of a lot more dangerous to blow up a plane than a train, something about the relative altitude of each.

First, yeah I figured.
Second, it not fallacy. You aren’t getting on a trillion dollar train without being molested by the TSA and getting everything checked for two hours. You’re insane if you think that’s not happening.

I did. Wasn't a "trillion dollar train (there's no such thing) though.
Trust me, I've been on a gazillion planes and I know the difference. But yeah it's a fallacy until it actually happens. You seem to be under the impression that more speed means more security. It's still a train, and the other thing's still a plane, and only the latter is going to be sailing at 35,000 feet.

Third, fuck yeah a train wreck is worse. Not just the deaths but the destruction of the track means everything is fucked. A plane can go down and the next one flys over the wreck. A train gets blown up and the entire system is shut down for months.

Yuh huh.
Tell the class how far a derailed train falls out of the sky and then tell us with a straight face how it's "worse". Not to mention all the constant harping about how the plane goes so much faster, yet suddenly that gets forgotten as soon as we talk accidents. Want to crash at 120 or at 570?

You can die going down the highway at 55. It’s not the speed you moron it’s the aftermath of the transportation system. If you crash a plane the sky is still open for another plane. If you crash a train your only path through is fucked. A wreck on a highway at 65 can block traffic for a day. It has nothing to do with the speed you moron. It’s the aftermath.

READ THE OP. And quit derailing.

 

[Dadoalex]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

Are YOU saying that a train will NEVER be able to travel as fast as current commercial aircraft? Let's hear you say that bit of stupid.

Nope. Top speeds of a train are 267mph. Commercial airliner is around 570mph. Aint gonna happen.

Well golly.

What were the top speeds of aircraft 50 years ago?
Have the fastest trains approached those speeds?

And you're saying trains can't do it? EVER?
The current land speed record is over 700MPH

You make the false assumption that air flight speeds will stay the same as train speeds increase.

No, I'm not.
You're feigning malundestanding past, present, and future tenses to support the butt-hurt of the day.

 

[Pogo]

The longest rail tunnel in the world cost a lot of money to build. The cost estimate of the project turned into a ~50% cost overrun. Imagine how much it would cost in America.

As of 1998, the total projected cost of the project was CHF 6.323 billion; as of December 2015, the final cost is projected as CHF 9.560 billion.​

Wikiwand - Gotthard Base Tunnel

The Gotthard Base Tunnel is a railway tunnel through the Alps in Switzerland. It opened in June 2016 and full service began the following December. With a route length of 57.09 km (35.5 mi), it is the world's longest railway and deepest traffic tunnel and the first flat, low-level route through...

www.wikiwand.com

Interestiing how you keep trying to change the topic from "how fast" to "how much cost".

Speed costs. There’s a reason you drive a Prius not an F1 car. It’s expensive as fuck and in no way efficient beyond a certain level.

Aasaaaaaaaaaaand there we go again, trying to derail the topic from "how fast" to "how much". Y'all sure are scared of this topic.

You seem to be scared of the economics. They don’t get better by ignoring them.

You seem to be scared of the concept of staying on topic. It screams that you're afraid of it. Why that would be I have no idea.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

There is no such assessment. Read your own quote. Oh and by the way your quote isn't even sourced, so we don't know whether Biden even said what's in the Twatter image. Now do we.

Pssst..trains make many stops going cross country. Airplanes do not. It doesn't matter if the trains going 1000mph.
Now go ahead and spin away to mak

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Cutting out the two hours you have to wait at the airport gets you a nice head start

You think there won't be any waiting or security at a high-speed rail station? LOL!

What we think is you don't need a commute on both ends to get to the train station because it's way outside of the city, and you generally don't need to wait for a yuge rolling thing to figure out where your bag is, so all of that adds two or three hours, or more, to a plane trip.

Have you ever actually been on an airplane?

Do you really believe the bullshit you spew

 

[Pogo]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

There is no such assessment. Read your own quote. Oh and by the way your quote isn't even sourced, so we don't know whether Biden even said what's in the Twatter image. Now do we.

Pssst..trains make many stops going cross country. Airplanes do not. It doesn't matter if the trains going 1000mph.
Now go ahead and spin away to mak

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Cutting out the two hours you have to wait at the airport gets you a nice head start

You think there won't be any waiting or security at a high-speed rail station? LOL!

What we think is you don't need a commute on both ends to get to the train station because it's way outside of the city, and you generally don't need to wait for a yuge rolling thing to figure out where your bag is, so all of that adds two or three hours, or more, to a plane trip.

Have you ever actually been on an airplane?

Do you really believe the bullshit you spew

Guess this post is still under construction.

Meanwhile this just in --- planes do not make stops going across the country. Wish I'd known that in my layovers in Cleveland and Tampa and St. Louis and Dallas and SLC and West Lebanon New Hamster.

 

[Nostra]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

There is no such assessment. Read your own quote. Oh and by the way your quote isn't even sourced, so we don't know whether Biden even said what's in the Twatter image. Now do we.

Pssst..trains make many stops going cross country. Airplanes do not. It doesn't matter if the trains going 1000mph.
Now go ahead and spin away to mak

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Cutting out the two hours you have to wait at the airport gets you a nice head start

You think there won't be any waiting or security at a high-speed rail station? LOL!

What we think is you don't need a commute on both ends to get to the train station because it's way outside of the city, and you generally don't need to wait for a yuge rolling thing to figure out where your bag is, so all of that adds two or three hours, or more, to a plane trip.

Have you ever actually been on an airplane?

Do you really believe the bullshit you spew

Guess this post is still under construction.

Meanwhile this just in --- planes do not make stops going across the country. Wish I'd known that in my layovers in Cleveland and Tampa and St. Louis and Dallas and SLC and West Lebanon New Hamster.

Don’t fly if you can only spend $23 on a ticket.

 

[Rigby5]

{...
The Hyperloop Genesis paper conceived of a hyperloop system that would propel passengers along the 350-mile (560 km) route at a speed of 760 mph (1,200 km/h), allowing for a travel time of 35 minutes, which is considerably faster than current rail or air travel times.
...}

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Train stations, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

So you agree with Biden's assessment that a train can get you "across the country" almost as fast as a commercial jet? Let's hear you say it...

There is no such assessment. Read your own quote. Oh and by the way your quote isn't even sourced, so we don't know whether Biden even said what's in the Twatter image. Now do we.

Pssst..trains make many stops going cross country. Airplanes do not. It doesn't matter if the trains going 1000mph.
Now go ahead and spin away to mak

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Cutting out the two hours you have to wait at the airport gets you a nice head start

You think there won't be any waiting or security at a high-speed rail station? LOL!

What we think is you don't need a commute on both ends to get to the train station because it's way outside of the city, and you generally don't need to wait for a yuge rolling thing to figure out where your bag is, so all of that adds two or three hours, or more, to a plane trip.

Have you ever actually been on an airplane?

Do you really believe the bullshit you spew

Guess this post is still under construction.

Meanwhile this just in --- planes do not make stops going across the country. Wish I'd known that in my layovers in Cleveland and Tampa and St. Louis and Dallas and SLC and West Lebanon New Hamster.

Hahahaha. WEAK.

 

[Dekster]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, waiting for baggage carousels, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

We average better than 5K train/motor vehicle collisions a year. I suspect the number of plane/car collisions is lower.

Who knows, but the OP wasn't about collisions, it was about speed.

It was also about not knowing what a real link is.

I am guessing a 300mph train could really sneak around the corner and slice my car in half.

Cool. Then you'd have TWO cars.

I'd have two clown cars at the most

 

[Dekster]

I am guessing a 300mph train could really sneak around the corner and slice my car in half.

Observe the crossing signals and don't try splitting the arms, cause you can make it.

The Old 97 was going a lot slower than the Biden Express when it derailed in my city.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Whelp, first off your quote says "close to", not "as fast as". Second, the TGV (Train de Grand Vitesse) in France has been clocked at over 350 mph; and third, airports are always located well outside of cities, which adds all the time, assuming no schedule delays, of commuting to one airport and from the other, the security lines, check-in, waiting for baggage carousels, all of that, resulting in the fact that I could drive from here in the sticks of North Carolina to downtown Nashville in the same time the company's plane ticket would get me there, and that's simply easy car driving and not a TGV. Even a slow train would beat the plane there.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky and therefore bring you right to the center of town.

Trains, in contrast to airports, rarely ever fall out of the sky

I hope you meant "never" fall out of the sky, cause if ever a train falls from the sky, I want to talk to that conductor, because...they're doing it wrong...lol

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I’ve never been on a train for a long trip but I can’t imagine you don’t check your bags. I don’t see everyone going to their seats with two rolling suit cases. No way.

Yeah you do. I've crossed the country by train.

Second, there’s no chance these trains won’t have a two hour check in time with TSA and all the same shit they have at airports. We used to run into an airport 15 minutes before take off, not now. Trains would be the same.

Speculation fallacy.

Third, and this is the technical part. You can’t just have a train going LA to NY like a direct flight. It’s not feasable, cost wise or use wise. The train would have to stop. A lot. So what stops? Let’s say LA, SLC, Denver, KC, STL, Chicago, Philly, NYC? Something like that. You aren’t smoking through those cities at 350 mph, sudden stop, 15 minute unload reload time and back to 350 mph. It’s an hour per stop minimum after slowing down well before getting there and leaving.

None of it makes sense as a tax payer investment. If a private railroad thinks they can do it I’m all for it. Not all of us paying for this mess.

The OP wasn't about "taxpayer investment", nor was it about security lines. -- it was about speed. It was about reading comprehension and it was about not knowing what a real link is. But speaking of security checks, it's a fuck of a lot more dangerous to blow up a plane than a train, something about the relative altitude of each.

First, yeah I figured.
Second, it not fallacy. You aren’t getting on a trillion dollar train without being molested by the TSA and getting everything checked for two hours. You’re insane if you think that’s not happening.

I did. Wasn't a "trillion dollar train (there's no such thing) though.
Trust me, I've been on a gazillion planes and I know the difference. But yeah it's a fallacy until it actually happens. You seem to be under the impression that more speed means more security. It's still a train, and the other thing's still a plane, and only the latter is going to be sailing at 35,000 feet.

Third, fuck yeah a train wreck is worse. Not just the deaths but the destruction of the track means everything is fucked. A plane can go down and the next one flys over the wreck. A train gets blown up and the entire system is shut down for months.

Yuh huh.
Tell the class how far a derailed train falls out of the sky and then tell us with a straight face how it's "worse". Not to mention all the constant harping about how the plane goes so much faster, yet suddenly that gets forgotten as soon as we talk accidents. Want to crash at 120 or at 570?

You can die going down the highway at 55. It’s not the speed you moron it’s the aftermath of the transportation system. If you crash a plane the sky is still open for another plane. If you crash a train your only path through is fucked. A wreck on a highway at 65 can block traffic for a day. It has nothing to do with the speed you moron. It’s the aftermath.

READ THE OP. And quit derailing.

So this is a fantasy. Kind of like you end up being Cinderella, on a train. LMAO!

Fucking clown.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The longest rail tunnel in the world cost a lot of money to build. The cost estimate of the project turned into a ~50% cost overrun. Imagine how much it would cost in America.

As of 1998, the total projected cost of the project was CHF 6.323 billion; as of December 2015, the final cost is projected as CHF 9.560 billion.​

Wikiwand - Gotthard Base Tunnel

The Gotthard Base Tunnel is a railway tunnel through the Alps in Switzerland. It opened in June 2016 and full service began the following December. With a route length of 57.09 km (35.5 mi), it is the world's longest railway and deepest traffic tunnel and the first flat, low-level route through...

www.wikiwand.com

Interestiing how you keep trying to change the topic from "how fast" to "how much cost".

Speed costs. There’s a reason you drive a Prius not an F1 car. It’s expensive as fuck and in no way efficient beyond a certain level.

Aasaaaaaaaaaaand there we go again, trying to derail the topic from "how fast" to "how much". Y'all sure are scared of this topic.

You seem to be scared of the economics. They don’t get better by ignoring them.

You seem to be scared of the concept of staying on topic. It screams that you're afraid of it. Why that would be I have no idea.

Sorry your fucking fantasy is having some real life issues coming true. Your feels aren’t going to keep this unicorn of a rail system running.

 

[DrLove]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

You suffer from a lack of imagination. Trains in Europe go half as fast already.
Buzz off on yer skateboard and leave us normals alone for a day eh?

 

[DrLove]

I think the senile old fuck missed a diaper change or something.

Cutting out the two hours you have to wait at the airport gets you a nice head start

Exactly! Bet I could get from Portland to San Diego FASTER!!