Biden Recognizes Armenian genocide

Yes it's very refreshing.

I didn't think Biden would do it. I know he said he would but a lot of presidents have said they would and didn't.

Hopefully all future presidents will do the same thing.

Hopefully some day, it will be included in world history in our schools.

I'm half Armenian. My family was impacted by that genocide. The only reason why I'm alive is because my grandparents escaped and came to America.

The only people I've ever encountered who knew about the Armenian people and the genocide were people who aren't from America and didn't go to our schools. They learned all about it in their schools.

Hopefully that will change.
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?

I am sorry to say that you do not care about Armenia and Armenians as well as Turkey. If you were a rational and humanist Armenian or Turk living in Turkey or Armenia: (We can even add Azerbaijan to this equation.)

- You would know that this countries should respect,good wish each other for humanism, democracy, justice, political power, and a prosperous economy.

- You would know how these 3 countries should cooperate in a balanced way against Russia's huge military power and tough attitude.

- You would know that racing pain would not help.

The most useful criticism is self-criticism. I hope both sides find their own mistakes, criticize them and establish good-lasting friendships.
 
Wow. The only president in my lifetime who came close to recognizing the genocide was reagan.

Past presidents said they would but they didn't and I didn't think that Biden would be any different.

Biden proved me wrong.

Finally a president who at least recognizes it happened. Hopefully all presidents from Biden forward will recognize it for what it was.

A GENOCIDE.

I’m sure a century old event is now important we have a name attached to it.
It's important to Armenian people.
Maybe. But calling some of the ‘massacres’ of Indians by Mexicans 175 years ago may be correct, but has no bearing on today.
History always has bearing on today.
The NY Times can admit their covering up of Stalin’s mass murders was evil and allowed it to progress, but nothing will result from it.
 
Wow. The only president in my lifetime who came close to recognizing the genocide was reagan.

Past presidents said they would but they didn't and I didn't think that Biden would be any different.

Biden proved me wrong.

Finally a president who at least recognizes it happened. Hopefully all presidents from Biden forward will recognize it for what it was.

A GENOCIDE.

He talked about blacks killing each other by the thousands each year?

I agree with the dying corpse just this once
 
Wow. The only president in my lifetime who came close to recognizing the genocide was reagan.

Past presidents said they would but they didn't and I didn't think that Biden would be any different.

Biden proved me wrong.

Finally a president who at least recognizes it happened. Hopefully all presidents from Biden forward will recognize it for what it was.

A GENOCIDE.

I’m sure a century old event is now important we have a name attached to it.
It's important to Armenian people.
Maybe. But calling some of the ‘massacres’ of Indians by Mexicans 175 years ago may be correct, but has no bearing on today.
History always has bearing on today.
The NY Times can admit their covering up of Stalin’s mass murders was evil and allowed it to progress, but nothing will result from it.
If the current genocide isn't covered up then something will have come from it.
 
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
The word 'genocide' wasn't even invented until after WWII and the discovery of the holocaust. It's a post-WWII concept being used to judge earlier wartime actions.
once again you prove how much of an idiot you are,, when the word came about has nothing to do with the act,, and the act was that of a genocide,,,
Are you ready for the world to declare the U.S. a committer of genocide over what we did to the Native Americans?
we didnt set out to wipe them out,, if you want to get technical it was a democrat that instituted the manifest destiny that led to what happened,,
As usual, you want to play partisan Party politics because you don't have much of a brain. And we did set to wipe them out. You don't give smallpox infected blankets to people you don't want to kill. Again...your brain...not good.
but it was dems that did it,, and the blankets were under jacksons orders,,,
Holy shit you're a moron.
 
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
The word 'genocide' wasn't even invented until after WWII and the discovery of the holocaust. It's a post-WWII concept being used to judge earlier wartime actions.
once again you prove how much of an idiot you are,, when the word came about has nothing to do with the act,, and the act was that of a genocide,,,
Are you ready for the world to declare the U.S. a committer of genocide over what we did to the Native Americans?
we didnt set out to wipe them out,, if you want to get technical it was a democrat that instituted the manifest destiny that led to what happened,,
As usual, you want to play partisan Party politics because you don't have much of a brain. And we did set to wipe them out. You don't give smallpox infected blankets to people you don't want to kill. Again...your brain...not good.
but it was dems that did it,, and the blankets were under jacksons orders,,,
Holy shit you're a moron.
and yet again you fail to explain why like I did with you,,,
 
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
The word 'genocide' wasn't even invented until after WWII and the discovery of the holocaust. It's a post-WWII concept being used to judge earlier wartime actions.



So in your opinion is because the word wasn't used at the time it's not right to apply it on what happened?

That's illogical to me.

We use a lot of words that weren't being used at a time. Why is this one genocide any different? We make new words and use them no matter if they existed before or not.

What happened was a genocide. Plain and simple.

In fact, that's where hitler learned a lot of what he did to the jewish people and used the genocide on the Armenians to justify killing as many jewish people possible.

I believe hitler's words were something like " Who today is here to speak about the annihilation of the Armenians?"

I'm here to say I'm here to speak about the annihilation of the Armenians. So are my siblings, my cousins and so many more of us who are here today because the United States took in our grandparents.

It's about time the United States tells truth about what happened. Just as most all other nations in the world have been doing for decades.
But it's not being acknowledged as a statement of fact, i.e. 'a genocide occurred'. It's being used as a condemnation, weaponized, and I just don't believe you can use the enlightenment of today to condemn a country for utilizing the tools of that time period, the morals of the day, the sophistication of warfare that existed in 1915.

I think if it was acknowledged as a simple statement of fact Türkiye would be more amenable. But not much.
 
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
The word 'genocide' wasn't even invented until after WWII and the discovery of the holocaust. It's a post-WWII concept being used to judge earlier wartime actions.



So in your opinion is because the word wasn't used at the time it's not right to apply it on what happened?

That's illogical to me.

We use a lot of words that weren't being used at a time. Why is this one genocide any different? We make new words and use them no matter if they existed before or not.

What happened was a genocide. Plain and simple.

In fact, that's where hitler learned a lot of what he did to the jewish people and used the genocide on the Armenians to justify killing as many jewish people possible.

I believe hitler's words were something like " Who today is here to speak about the annihilation of the Armenians?"

I'm here to say I'm here to speak about the annihilation of the Armenians. So are my siblings, my cousins and so many more of us who are here today because the United States took in our grandparents.

It's about time the United States tells truth about what happened. Just as most all other nations in the world have been doing for decades.
But it's not being acknowledged as a statement of fact, i.e. 'a genocide occurred'. It's being used as a condemnation, weaponized, and I just don't believe you can use the enlightenment of today to condemn a country for utilizing the tools of that time period, the morals of the day, the sophistication of warfare that existed in 1915.

I think if it was acknowledged as a simple statement of fact Türkiye would be more amenable. But not much.
you are honest to god making excuses for genocide??
 
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
The word 'genocide' wasn't even invented until after WWII and the discovery of the holocaust. It's a post-WWII concept being used to judge earlier wartime actions.



So in your opinion is because the word wasn't used at the time it's not right to apply it on what happened?

That's illogical to me.

We use a lot of words that weren't being used at a time. Why is this one genocide any different? We make new words and use them no matter if they existed before or not.

What happened was a genocide. Plain and simple.

In fact, that's where hitler learned a lot of what he did to the jewish people and used the genocide on the Armenians to justify killing as many jewish people possible.

I believe hitler's words were something like " Who today is here to speak about the annihilation of the Armenians?"

I'm here to say I'm here to speak about the annihilation of the Armenians. So are my siblings, my cousins and so many more of us who are here today because the United States took in our grandparents.

It's about time the United States tells truth about what happened. Just as most all other nations in the world have been doing for decades.
But it's not being acknowledged as a statement of fact, i.e. 'a genocide occurred'. It's being used as a condemnation, weaponized, and I just don't believe you can use the enlightenment of today to condemn a country for utilizing the tools of that time period, the morals of the day, the sophistication of warfare that existed in 1915.

I think if it was acknowledged as a simple statement of fact Türkiye would be more amenable. But not much.

You’re talking out of your fat ass. It’s not being weaponized or a condemnation of the present Turkish government, but it should be, because they continue to deny historical fact.
 
Wow. The only president in my lifetime who came close to recognizing the genocide was reagan.

Past presidents said they would but they didn't and I didn't think that Biden would be any different.

Biden proved me wrong.

Finally a president who at least recognizes it happened. Hopefully all presidents from Biden forward will recognize it for what it was.

A GENOCIDE.



The only reason he is doing this....you dumb ass.....is because he want to ignore the current genocide his Chinese buddies are committing against muslim Chinese...you idiot............

How about he calls out his buddies on the forced sterilization of muslim chinese women...you idiot....or the slave labor in china.....?

You are such a slave...
 
Wow. The only president in my lifetime who came close to recognizing the genocide was reagan.

Past presidents said they would but they didn't and I didn't think that Biden would be any different.

Biden proved me wrong.

Finally a president who at least recognizes it happened. Hopefully all presidents from Biden forward will recognize it for what it was.

A GENOCIDE.

It’s also refreshing to have a president willing to stand up to dictators and despots, rather than coddling them.


You say this of biden who was in bed with the Chinese communists....you are really stupid...
 
Will he recognize the genocide going on RIGHT NOW in China? Or will he continue to excuse "different cultural norms"?
Trump wouldn't even recognize Putin paying bounties for killing our military. Your concern-trolling is transparent.


Hey, dumb ass...you really need to catch up on democrat party lies...that one was exposed as fake already...

U.S. intelligence backpedaled Thursday on last summer's reports of Russia placing bounties on the heads of U.S. soldiers.

A senior Biden administration official said the intelligence community only had "low to moderate" confidence in the Russian bounty story, meaning it is unproven and possibly untrue.

 
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
The word 'genocide' wasn't even invented until after WWII and the discovery of the holocaust. It's a post-WWII concept being used to judge earlier wartime actions.
once again you prove how much of an idiot you are,, when the word came about has nothing to do with the act,, and the act was that of a genocide,,,
Are you ready for the world to declare the U.S. a committer of genocide over what we did to the Native Americans?
we didnt set out to wipe them out,, if you want to get technical it was a democrat that instituted the manifest destiny that led to what happened,,
As usual, you want to play partisan Party politics because you don't have much of a brain. And we did set to wipe them out. You don't give smallpox infected blankets to people you don't want to kill. Again...your brain...not good.
but it was dems that did it,, and the blankets were under jacksons orders,,,

Political parties switched back and forth at least 3 times in that year period you are crossing, so there is no point to any partisan comment,

Jackson is what republican are now.
But we can ignore parties and just say that genocide, greed, lies, and war are all bad.
 
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
The word 'genocide' wasn't even invented until after WWII and the discovery of the holocaust. It's a post-WWII concept being used to judge earlier wartime actions.
once again you prove how much of an idiot you are,, when the word came about has nothing to do with the act,, and the act was that of a genocide,,,
Are you ready for the world to declare the U.S. a committer of genocide over what we did to the Native Americans?
we didnt set out to wipe them out,, if you want to get technical it was a democrat that instituted the manifest destiny that led to what happened,,
As usual, you want to play partisan Party politics because you don't have much of a brain. And we did set to wipe them out. You don't give smallpox infected blankets to people you don't want to kill. Again...your brain...not good.
but it was dems that did it,, and the blankets were under jacksons orders,,,

Political parties switched back and forth at least 3 times in that year period you are crossing, so there is no point to any partisan comment,

Jackson is what republican are now.
But we can ignore parties and just say that genocide, greed, lies, and war are all bad.
you cant just make shit up and expect people to believe you,,
 
Will he recognize the genocide going on RIGHT NOW in China? Or will he continue to excuse "different cultural norms"?
Trump wouldn't even recognize Putin paying bounties for killing our military. Your concern-trolling is transparent.


Hey, dumb ass...you really need to catch up on democrat party lies...that one was exposed as fake already...

U.S. intelligence backpedaled Thursday on last summer's reports of Russia placing bounties on the heads of U.S. soldiers.

A senior Biden administration official said the intelligence community only had "low to moderate" confidence in the Russian bounty story, meaning it is unproven and possibly untrue.



However, we DO know that the CIA was paying bounties on Soviet soldiers killed by the Mujahideen as far back as 1978.
 
Will he recognize the genocide going on RIGHT NOW in China? Or will he continue to excuse "different cultural norms"?
Trump wouldn't even recognize Putin paying bounties for killing our military. Your concern-trolling is transparent.


Hey, dumb ass...you really need to catch up on democrat party lies...that one was exposed as fake already...

U.S. intelligence backpedaled Thursday on last summer's reports of Russia placing bounties on the heads of U.S. soldiers.

A senior Biden administration official said the intelligence community only had "low to moderate" confidence in the Russian bounty story, meaning it is unproven and possibly untrue.



However, we DO know that the CIA was paying bounties on Soviet soldiers killed by the Mujahideen as far back as 1978.


So?
 
I oppose this move.


I don't.

I don't give a rat's ass what turkey wants or thinks.

I'm tired of our nation coddling such behavior.

Facts are facts if turkey can't deal with it, that's turkey's problem.

Why is it that other nations can and do recognize the genocide and that's ok but it's not ok for the United States to do what most other nations have done?

Most Americans have not even heard of Armenia much less knows about the genocide while people from most other nations do know about Armenians and the genocide.

What changes when the United States does what most other nations have done for decades?
The word 'genocide' wasn't even invented until after WWII and the discovery of the holocaust. It's a post-WWII concept being used to judge earlier wartime actions.
once again you prove how much of an idiot you are,, when the word came about has nothing to do with the act,, and the act was that of a genocide,,,
Are you ready for the world to declare the U.S. a committer of genocide over what we did to the Native Americans?
we didnt set out to wipe them out,, if you want to get technical it was a democrat that instituted the manifest destiny that led to what happened,,
As usual, you want to play partisan Party politics because you don't have much of a brain. And we did set to wipe them out. You don't give smallpox infected blankets to people you don't want to kill. Again...your brain...not good.
but it was dems that did it,, and the blankets were under jacksons orders,,,

Political parties switched back and forth at least 3 times in that year period you are crossing, so there is no point to any partisan comment,

Jackson is what republican are now.
But we can ignore parties and just say that genocide, greed, lies, and war are all bad.
you cant just make shit up and expect people to believe you,,

When Lincoln started the Republican party, he was a progressive liberal, against slavery of the wealthy over the poor masses.
By 1880, the Republicans were corrupt representatives of the wealthy elite, attempting to create abusive monopolies and letting Blacks be put back into virtual slavery by Jim Crow laws.
In theory Democrats became the progressive liberals under FDR and LBJ, but I think they were cynical and did not really care. Under Clinton, the democrats went back to being the puppets of the big banks again.
Bush was as greedy as they come, borrowing trillions and fighting illegal wars over oil profits.
Trump tried to come off as a populist, like with his trade war with China. But he never achieved much.
 
Will he recognize the genocide going on RIGHT NOW in China? Or will he continue to excuse "different cultural norms"?
Trump wouldn't even recognize Putin paying bounties for killing our military. Your concern-trolling is transparent.


Hey, dumb ass...you really need to catch up on democrat party lies...that one was exposed as fake already...

U.S. intelligence backpedaled Thursday on last summer's reports of Russia placing bounties on the heads of U.S. soldiers.

A senior Biden administration official said the intelligence community only had "low to moderate" confidence in the Russian bounty story, meaning it is unproven and possibly untrue.



However, we DO know that the CIA was paying bounties on Soviet soldiers killed by the Mujahideen as far back as 1978.


So?

So the CIA was unethical, and corrupted our whole country.
We would deserve to have bounties paid for those who kill our soldiers, due to our own lack of ethic previously.
 

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