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It baffles my mind that you think that.
Murder is a legal term. It is the unlawful taking of a life.
Subsequently, if abortion is legal, by definition it can't murder.
What's to consider?I know what killing and murder are and what their difference is.
I'd explain to why abortion is murder but I think it would be a waste of my time to type it out. I don't believe you'd actually read it, let alone consider it.
What's to consider?
How can something that has to be unlawful to have occured, occur if it's legal?
Maybe this will help you clear your thoughts...
18 U.S. Code § 1111 - Murder
www.law.cornell.edu
(a)Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought.
If abortion is lawful, how can it be murder?
If you can type out a logical answer to that I will be quite impressed.
Because murder goes beyond just the law saying is ok.
Aborting a child is ending it's life needlessly. It's no different than simply walking up to a stranger eating ice creme peacefully and shooting them in the head. They are exactly the same things.
Murder is not rooted in legality. It predates any kind of legal system as we know it now. Murder is simply an act coupled with a circumstance just like killing results in death also but it's circumstance is different. Thou shall not murder (kill is a mistake people ran with) was even in the Bible. It is an act, not a law.
Why do you care about your likes and reaction scores? Are you a 16-year-old girl?You're more interested in being a contrarian, more interested in arguing against people that you ignore things in order to be right. That's why your post count vs reaction score is what it is, because you're not taken seriously because of things you say like this for example.
I'm not sure why your inability to back up your position is his problem, exactly? He made a very congant point. Abortion is not recognized as murder in the legal code. It wasn't recognized as such even when abortions were illegal.I'll consider this conversation at an end though. I hope you find whatever it is you're missing in your life that is causing you to be unhappy and closed minded. God bless you.
Abortion isn't murder. You fuzz up your own argument calling it murder. It is a killing, a taking of human life but no murder.I know what killing and murder are and what their difference is.
I'd explain to why abortion is murder but I think it would be a waste of my time to type it out. I don't believe you'd actually read it, let alone consider it.
I am speaking from a legal perspective.Because murder goes beyond just the law saying is ok.
Aborting a child is ending it's life needlessly. It's no different than simply walking up to a stranger eating ice creme peacefully and shooting them in the head. They are exactly the same things.
Murder is not rooted in legality. It predates any kind of legal system as we know it now. Murder is simply an act coupled with a circumstance just like killing results in death also but it's circumstance is different. Thou shall not murder (kill is a mistake people ran with) was even in the Bible. It is an act, not a law.
You're more interested in being a contrarian, more interested in arguing against people that you ignore things in order to be right. That's why your post count vs reaction score is what it is, because you're not taken seriously because of things you say like this for example.
I'll consider this conversation at an end though.
I am quite happy thanks.I hope you find whatever it is you're missing in your life that is causing you to be unhappy and closed minded. God bless you.
Only because the Funditards needed an issue.
The thing about Roe is that it recognized the reality of the time. Abortion laws were regularly ignored and never enforced. OB/GYN's were performing abortions, writing something else on the chart, submitted the bill to insurance companies and being paid with no questions.
All Roe did was get rid of the laws no one was obeying.
He is Ok with it though.
No one should have religious crazies deciding their health care.Roe was a terrible idea, and is rightly gone. The fact that we are still debating this, despite your derision of those who disagree with you, shows it not just some fringe group wanting restrictions on abortion on demand.
No one should have religious crazies deciding their health care.
Abortion isn't murder. You fuzz up your own argument calling it murder. It is a killing, a taking of human life but no murder.
Fetuses aren't people.To you any religious person is a crazy, so your statement has no worth.
This is the one unique situation where another life is involved, no matter how much you try to deny it.
Exactly. A lawful homicideThe legal term is homicide.
Many things are life, very few are actual persons that could possibly be murdered.is it killing a life, yes or no?
No legal terms here.
Fetuses aren't people.
No matter how much the religious crazies want them to be.
They certainly shouldn't have more rights than the woman they are inside.
Many things are life, very few are actual persons that could possibly be murdered.
This cannot be murdered, because it's not a person:
Zygote turns into embryo, then into fetus that develops into something that can judged to be a person, but where exactly that point is gray area.
To me there can't be any discussion of personhood without cerebral cortex system that starts functioning in the third trimester.
No comprimises with religious fanatics... because if you clowns had your way, women would be expected to DIE making babies as God intended.They are a unique life, a unique human life. You can play the semantics game all you want, it doesn't change reality.
That's where the 15 week compromise comes in.