Bill Taylor's opening statement- quid pro quo

[OKTexas]

Was that from 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand information? And I provided a link already, look it up.

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You do realize that the whistleblower's testimony was backed up when the call notes were released, right?

No it wasn't.

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What part of the whistleblower testimony has not been?

Key allegations from the Ukraine whistleblower are true, despite what Trump says

Whistleblower complaint:
“I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election. This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals.”

What we know:
This core claim has been confirmed. Based on Trump’s public comments and the White House transcript of his call with Zelensky, it’s now clear that Trump used his position to pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden. If Zelensky bowed to this pressure, Ukraine would have been interfering in the 2020 election to help Trump win.

Whistleblower complaint:
“The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well.”

What we know:
The whistleblower was spot-on about Giuliani, who has been transparent about his role and maintains he hasn’t done anything wrong. The whistleblower was less sure about Barr. Trump mentioned Barr on the Zelensky call, but the Justice Department said Barr didn’t learn about it for “several weeks” and that he never discussed Ukraine with Giuliani

Whistleblower complaint:
“According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.”

What we know:
The White House transcript of the call revealed that this is accurate. Trump told Zelensky: “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great.” In addition, after the complaint was publicly released, Trump publicly asked Ukraine to investigate the Biden family

Whistleblower complaint:
“According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … assist in purportedly uncovering that allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election originated in Ukraine, with a specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee and examined by the US cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike.”

What we know:
The White House transcript of the call included Trump’s mention of CrowdStrike, which is at the center of a Trump-supported conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian meddling in 2016. Trump said: “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say Ukraine has it … I would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it.”​

And that is just a small sample.

Now you...

Has the whistlblower been cross examined? hmmmm?

The trial is in the Senate. Depositions aren't "cross examined".

Who's to say the so called whistleblower isn't a figment of shits imagination. After all, he's had indisputable proof of Russian collusion for years now and is still sitting on it.

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[Faun]

We need an INVESTIGATION to clear this bullshit up.

$1 billion went to Ukraine

$3 million went to Hunter Biden for "nothing"

Joe Biden on VIDEO claims to have gotten the Ukraine prosecutor fired

FAUN bitterly opposes an investigation

Wrong again, dumbfuck. I couldn't care less if Biden gets investigated or not. I just don't want a person running in the same election to be allowed to break the law by soliciting a foreign national to help him with his campaign.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

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A perfect example of how the "human scum" on the Right lie by editing out the actual context of anyone they quote!
Pelosi was calling out REPUBLICANS for conducting wrap-up smear campaigns, not touting the phenomenon as a go-to strategy for Democrats. That is why nothing the worthless lying scum Right ever posts is true!

Two in one? It looks like an instruction to the young Socialist Democrats being feathered into their little nests, walks like one, talks like one. It's the Ducky Democrat Dilettantes deducing Dame Pelosi's directives. duh!

And now we see the "human scum" on the Right defending their LYING in the face of the truth.

Nancy is on the left.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

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A perfect example of how the "human scum" on the Right lie by editing out the actual context of anyone they quote!
Pelosi was calling out REPUBLICANS for conducting wrap-up smear campaigns, not touting the phenomenon as a go-to strategy for Democrats. That is why nothing the worthless lying scum Right ever posts is true!

Two in one? It looks like an instruction to the young Socialist Democrats being feathered into their little nests, walks like one, talks like one. It's the Ducky Democrat Dilettantes deducing Dame Pelosi's directives. duh!

And now we see the "human scum" on the Right defending their LYING in the face of the truth.

Even Trump thinks Republicans are human scum. They're also painfully rightarded. Evidence of that? Even after being called human scum by Trump, they'll still defend him and they'll even vote for him next year if the Senate doesn't convict him.

Link....?


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[Butch_Coolidge]

You may as well have Nancy run for President. You couldn’t do any worse.


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[OKTexas]

Has he been charged with giving false testimony?

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Who could charge him?

He gave a sworn deposition in a British court, they would have jurisdiction. To my knowledge the only ones accusing him of lying are you commies.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Dumbfuck.... did you even look at the affidavit??

It wasn't given in a British court. It was given last month in Kiev in front of a notary.

It's contradictory to what's been reported in the news.

It even states: Facts mentioned at this statement have not been verified by the notary.

Oh, and the best part ------- Shokin never signed it!

Shokin Statement

You are the dumbest fucking cuck on this forum for falling for that bullshit.

Most everything is contradictory to whats being reported in the news, that's why it's called fake news.

Like Reagan said, the only problem with commiecrats, is they know so much that isn't true.

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Dumbfucking cuck ... I can't believe you're stupid enough to follow up after than royal bitchslapping (actually, yes, I can believe it). The affidavit you threw on the table wasn't signed. It's worthless. It's not even worth the paper it's printed on. The guy is so corrupt, he knew better than to sign a sworn lie.

And even rightwing media is reporting there was no open investigation into Burisma when Shokin was sacked...

WSJ News Exclusive | Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son

Mr. Giuliani has suggested Mr. Biden’s motivation was to protect his son, a lawyer who has been involved in several investment and consulting firms, although Mr. Shokin had already completed his investigation of Burisma Group before he left office.​

So you've seen the original document, I must have missed it, everything I've seen are reprints.

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[Syriusly]

You do realize that the whistleblower's testimony was backed up when the call notes were released, right?

No it wasn't.

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What part of the whistleblower testimony has not been?

Key allegations from the Ukraine whistleblower are true, despite what Trump says

Whistleblower complaint:
“I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election. This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals.”

What we know:
This core claim has been confirmed. Based on Trump’s public comments and the White House transcript of his call with Zelensky, it’s now clear that Trump used his position to pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden. If Zelensky bowed to this pressure, Ukraine would have been interfering in the 2020 election to help Trump win.

Whistleblower complaint:
“The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well.”

What we know:
The whistleblower was spot-on about Giuliani, who has been transparent about his role and maintains he hasn’t done anything wrong. The whistleblower was less sure about Barr. Trump mentioned Barr on the Zelensky call, but the Justice Department said Barr didn’t learn about it for “several weeks” and that he never discussed Ukraine with Giuliani

Whistleblower complaint:
“According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.”

What we know:
The White House transcript of the call revealed that this is accurate. Trump told Zelensky: “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great.” In addition, after the complaint was publicly released, Trump publicly asked Ukraine to investigate the Biden family

Whistleblower complaint:
“According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … assist in purportedly uncovering that allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election originated in Ukraine, with a specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee and examined by the US cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike.”

What we know:
The White House transcript of the call included Trump’s mention of CrowdStrike, which is at the center of a Trump-supported conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian meddling in 2016. Trump said: “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say Ukraine has it … I would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it.”​

And that is just a small sample.

Now you...

Has the whistlblower been cross examined? hmmmm?

The trial is in the Senate. Depositions aren't "cross examined".

Who's to say the so called whistleblower isn't a figment of shits imagination. After all, he's had indisputable proof of Russian collusion for years now and is still sitting on it.

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Poor little Trumpettes and their belief in 'alternative facts'

https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Docu...on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints.pdf

Trump keeps railing about the 'whistleblower' and keeps threatening him/her.....I guess its a figment of Trump's imagination also

 

[Seawytch]

By August the Ukranians knew the aid was being withheld- and according to Taylor's statement, were told that unless they made a public announcement of an investigation into, among other things, the Bidens, that the aid would not be coming, that the Ukrainians wouldn't get the sought after meeting in the White House.

And give us that link about the 'ongoing investigation into Burisma since February- since in August Trump's operatives were still trying to pressure Ukraine into starting them.

Was that from 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand information? And I provided a link already, look it up.

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You do realize that the whistleblower's testimony was backed up when the call notes were released, right?

No it wasn't.

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What part of the whistleblower testimony has not been?

Key allegations from the Ukraine whistleblower are true, despite what Trump says

Whistleblower complaint:
“I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election. This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals.”

What we know:
This core claim has been confirmed. Based on Trump’s public comments and the White House transcript of his call with Zelensky, it’s now clear that Trump used his position to pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden. If Zelensky bowed to this pressure, Ukraine would have been interfering in the 2020 election to help Trump win.

Whistleblower complaint:
“The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well.”

What we know:
The whistleblower was spot-on about Giuliani, who has been transparent about his role and maintains he hasn’t done anything wrong. The whistleblower was less sure about Barr. Trump mentioned Barr on the Zelensky call, but the Justice Department said Barr didn’t learn about it for “several weeks” and that he never discussed Ukraine with Giuliani

Whistleblower complaint:
“According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.”

What we know:
The White House transcript of the call revealed that this is accurate. Trump told Zelensky: “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great.” In addition, after the complaint was publicly released, Trump publicly asked Ukraine to investigate the Biden family

Whistleblower complaint:
“According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … assist in purportedly uncovering that allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election originated in Ukraine, with a specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee and examined by the US cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike.”

What we know:
The White House transcript of the call included Trump’s mention of CrowdStrike, which is at the center of a Trump-supported conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian meddling in 2016. Trump said: “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say Ukraine has it … I would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it.”​

And that is just a small sample.

Now you...

The WH transcript showed that Trump asked Selensky to cooperate with the AG 4 times. The Constitution gives the president free reign to conduct foreign policy and an obligation to enforce the law. Your commie fantasies notwithstanding, there was nothing improper about the call.

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YOU made the claim that the whistleblower complaint was not supported by everything we currently know and by the call memo released by Trump. You have yet to support that claim.

 

[Syriusly]

I recommend everyone read Bill Taylor's opening statement today.
Top US diplomat to Ukraine testifies there was a quid pro quo

I suggest reading the entire thing because there is great perspective in his statement.

While it confirms the quid pro quo that had been suspected- what is perhaps even more disturbing is his description of a shadow diplomacy being led by Rudy Giuliani- the President's private attorney- in leading America's diplomatic conversation with Ukraine.

I know that the Trump supporters will reflexively attack Bill Taylor.....but for anyone who thinks that they are objective- read his statement.

Read it.

Anyone notice that we have the opening statement and no results of a cross examination?

IOW, we're supposed to accept this carefully selected leak as gospel truth with no challenge.

I find it fascinating that you believe that the role of the GOP in the House is to defend the President rather than conduct an investigation.

You don't have to believe what Taylor said- I certainly don't believe anything Trump says.
But Taylor's statement is very specific and very concise, with details that the House can follow up with in additional interviews. And that is what the House will do.

In between leaking carefully selected tidbits of information designed solely to drive down the president’s approval numbers.

Odd you pretend to care about that- since you don't care about the President pressuring a foreign government to publicly announce an investigation into his political rival designed solely to drive down his opponents approval numbers.....

 

[beautress]

ThisisMe said, "If trump is guilty, then he needs to go, if hes innocent, then we can finally put all this to rest."
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You, I, and other U.S. taxpayers just shelled out $45 million dollars to get a Mueller Report. It cleared President Trump of the falsetto accusation that he colluded with Russia to get information on Clinton so he could use it to win the election. That never happened, but we found out he never, no not once, contacted the Russians or any other foreign government to get at the paranoid former First Lady of President Bill Clinton.

You may be influenced by people so punked out by Hillary's defeat they cried at her wannabe victory party, and heard their party leaders trying to fix the problem by promising they would "Get Trump" with impeachment the very next day. And they went about it full force for the duration of November, December, and days leading up to the inauguration of President Trump. Their orders to the Democrat operatives of the press have been daily, emailed, faxed, and hand-delivered to synchronize the specific words du jour being identical to all the other 200 news outlets who coordinate Democrat orders expediently.

So I'm not surprised people like you think who aren't tied down to either side, but favor certain elements in one side or the other.

Democrats are outdoing themselves to create an impression that President Trump has done something, It's fiction, every word of it. If you keep that in mind, their lies don't get under your toenails.

The Kavanaugh hoax came first, about the modus operandi under which the Democrats function. It was all a lie, all along, and leftist leadership made it happen. I am hoping you know the details but not wanting to offend you by regurgitating that which is provable and what part is fiction. The question is, why did the Democrats select rape as their cause celebre to erase Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court list forever? The answer is simple: they wanted women mad at President Trump, because he had a higher percentage of women voting for him than they anticipated. 90% of Americans will be madder than a hatter to think a public official has raped somebody else, particularly a single woman who is young and pretty and is vetted in persuasion to the nines.

If you need to know anything about the dirty tricks of the left, and you haven't noticed, stick around. America is in for the next phase about what America is going to do to prevent another Congressional majority from putting the swampy stuff on conceal. We cannot allow this to happen again in this nation. It is not only unconstitutional, it is anti-constitutional, in my humble opinion.

No more secret committee meetings excluding opponent party members of that committee, Democrats.

"You, I, and other U.S. taxpayers just shelled out $45 million dollars to get a Mueller Report."

Blame Republicans.

No, I blame the Deep State Demonrats. They used the two years to clean up on House Seats to carry out their promise in 2016 to pull out the "Insurance Policy" the salacious Steel Report included among other false narratives created by Hillary's pals the spinroom darlings. Nancy Pelosi did her part in orchestrating the time sequences. Jerry Nadler went on a diet and used his carefully-manipulated language to attempt to destroy the President with more and more and more lies and innuendos than most people ever tell in 10 lifetimes.

"No, I blame the Deep State Demonrats."

Well that's only because you're a fucking moron. In reality, Mueller is a Republican. He was appointed by a Republican. That Republican was filling in for another Republican who recused himself. That Republican was appointed by a Republican president.

Democrats had nothing to do with it but sit back and enjoy.

No, Mueller is a victim of dementia. He's got three years left, tops.

We know what he has because he couldn't remember what was in the report he was paid forty five million dollars to produce. Then he realized he had to turn it over to others because they wrote it. Oh, the irony. *sigh*

I have a question for you though, Faun. Why are you alleging that a man who picked 19 Democrats to nail President Trump on an impeachment is a Republican, when he isn't? Twleve of his appointees are KNOWN DNC operatives, and one of them who was supposed to be the most neutral went to Hillary's wannabe campaign winner party--his duly appointed assistant. There was no failure at determining partisanship when the Democrats including his assistant did all the dirty work, and couldn't find one singular crime of collusion with the Russians on the part of Donald Trump.

Now your precious Constitution-disrespecting Demonrats are holding committee meetings minus their Republican members out by exclusion of the chairman of the committee, who should be confined to a substantial straight jacket for his kneeing the Constitution in its groin.

If you believe that's okay, you will be reproved by future stopgap measures by the adult Republicans in Congress and the Senate.

You can't get away with serial Constitutional Amendment murder forever. I'm tempted to say neener neener neener, but I won't yet.

You say that as though I give a shit. You're still denying reality by blaming Democrats, and not Republicans, for Mueller's investigation -- even though it was a Republican at every step along the way leading to that investigation.

You're nuts.

You're the one who thinks a dementia victim is responsible for fogetting what was in the report, and had to get his Democrat pals explaining what he meant when the words and information were not forthcoming. I do not share your opinion because I observed at least 6 of the following symptoms when the Special Counsel was going through the questioning procedures. I wasn't the only one. There are other symptoms of dementia, too, but they're pretty individualized, and there are different agents in the body that cause dementia, so not all of the symptoms below apply to the obvious confusion Special Counsel Mueller was experiencing on live tv. I'm not one bit happy about it, but I know what my observations of this poor man were. I hope he is getting plenty of rest so he can enjoy what amount of life he has left, and it will be improved if his family takes care of his issues by learning how to best confront the disease and lessen its victim's stages of disappointment, frustration, and angst that accepting the disease may at first cause. I hope his family stays with and supports him for the duration. And I am praying they find a cure for the heinous properties of this disease and its effect on loved ones and acquaintances.

14 of the most common symptoms of dementia​

1. Memory Loss
2. Exertion in Communicating
3. Struggles with Reasoning
4. Has a Hard Time in Handling Complex Tasks
5. Difficulty in Planning
6. Loss of Coordination and Motor Function
7. Constant Feeling of Confusion and Disorientation
8. Depression
9. Anxiety
10. Paranoia
11. Agitation
12. Hallucinations
13. Inappropriate Behavior
14. Changes in Personality

​

 

[Syriusly]

We need an INVESTIGATION to clear this bullshit up.

$1 billion went to Ukraine

$3 million went to Hunter Biden for "nothing"

Joe Biden on VIDEO claims to have gotten the Ukraine prosecutor fired

FAUN bitterly opposes an investigation

$1 billion went to Ukraine- $1 billion approved by Congress for the Ukraine.

$3 million went to Hunter Biden for "nothing"- don't know whether the number is correct or not- but it is not illegal for a company to hire someone incompetent to be part of their leadership

Joe Biden on VIDEO claims to have gotten the Ukraine prosecutor fired

Since it was the U.S policy, supported by both Democrat and GOP Senators to get that prosecutor fired- yes he did claim to get the prosecutor fired.

 

[Seawytch]

You do realize that the whistleblower's testimony was backed up when the call notes were released, right?

No it wasn't.

.

What part of the whistleblower testimony has not been?

Key allegations from the Ukraine whistleblower are true, despite what Trump says

Whistleblower complaint:
“I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election. This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals.”

What we know:
This core claim has been confirmed. Based on Trump’s public comments and the White House transcript of his call with Zelensky, it’s now clear that Trump used his position to pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden. If Zelensky bowed to this pressure, Ukraine would have been interfering in the 2020 election to help Trump win.

Whistleblower complaint:
“The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well.”

What we know:
The whistleblower was spot-on about Giuliani, who has been transparent about his role and maintains he hasn’t done anything wrong. The whistleblower was less sure about Barr. Trump mentioned Barr on the Zelensky call, but the Justice Department said Barr didn’t learn about it for “several weeks” and that he never discussed Ukraine with Giuliani

Whistleblower complaint:
“According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.”

What we know:
The White House transcript of the call revealed that this is accurate. Trump told Zelensky: “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great.” In addition, after the complaint was publicly released, Trump publicly asked Ukraine to investigate the Biden family

Whistleblower complaint:
“According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelenskyy to … assist in purportedly uncovering that allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election originated in Ukraine, with a specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee and examined by the US cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike.”

What we know:
The White House transcript of the call included Trump’s mention of CrowdStrike, which is at the center of a Trump-supported conspiracy theory about alleged Ukrainian meddling in 2016. Trump said: “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say Ukraine has it … I would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it.”​

And that is just a small sample.

Now you...

Has the whistlblower been cross examined? hmmmm?

The trial is in the Senate. Depositions aren't "cross examined".

Who's to say the so called whistleblower isn't a figment of shits imagination. After all, he's had indisputable proof of Russian collusion for years now and is still sitting on it.

.

Even if your made up scenario were true, it doesn’t make the whistleblower testimony less true (or unsupported by facts in the public sphere). Name one thing from the whistleblower complaint that has been found untrue.

 

[Syriusly]

The PROSECUTOR did not "hire" Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden was "hired" as a CONDUIT for a KICKBACK, which is the only explanation that fits the facts. T

'the only explanation that fits the facts'- no- the only explanation that appeals to gullible Trumpettes.

The day it is illegal for companies to hire clearly unqualified employees and overpay them is the day that Eric Trump is going to jail.

 

[OKTexas]

Faun,

How many BOARD MEETINGS did Hunter Biden attend???

A: ZERO


How can one be on the BOARD if he never attends a MEETING?

A: he was a CONDUIT to a KICKBACK

Who cares? There's no law against over paying someone to do nothing simply because you want their name and associations on your board.

Thanks for proving the corrupt intent.

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[beautress]

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A perfect example of how the "human scum" on the Right lie by editing out the actual context of anyone they quote!
Pelosi was calling out REPUBLICANS for conducting wrap-up smear campaigns, not touting the phenomenon as a go-to strategy for Democrats. That is why nothing the worthless lying scum Right ever posts is true!

Two in one? It looks like an instruction to the young Socialist Democrats being feathered into their little nests, walks like one, talks like one. It's the Ducky Democrat Dilettantes deducing Dame Pelosi's directives. duh!

And now we see the "human scum" on the Right defending their LYING in the face of the truth.

Oh, my same dirt, and it's nearly 5 o'clock, time for shift change. lol
Honey, you wouldn't know the truth if it were to sit on your lap, bite you on the mouth, and told you to put some ice on it.

 

[Syriusly]

show me in the Constitution where it grants the VP

It grants the President to DELEGATE that AUTHORITY.... as Hillary would have delegated the Presidency to Huma for 20 hours a day to deal with her Parkinson's.....


So, your position is that.... while there is a video, Joe Biden is LYING... OK.... and Hunter Biden did nothing and received millions for nothing.... and we should NEVER EVER INVESTIGATE THAT....


LOL!!!!!

I don't care if the United States investigates any possible improprieties by Biden or Trump. There is absolutely no evidence of anything illegal, but sure, the FBI can investigate.

But don't pretend that the United States secretly calling the President of the Ukraine and asking Ukraine to investigate his political rival, and then secretly insisting that the President of the Ukraine publicly announce the investigation is an 'investigation'.

It is just an attempt at a political smear.

If Obama had announced the FBI investigation of Trump colluding with Russia, you would have been the first to (correctly) cry foul and claim it was done to smear Trump.

 

[Syriusly]

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A perfect example of how the "human scum" on the Right lie by editing out the actual context of anyone they quote!
Pelosi was calling out REPUBLICANS for conducting wrap-up smear campaigns, not touting the phenomenon as a go-to strategy for Democrats. That is why nothing the worthless lying scum Right ever posts is true!

Two in one? It looks like an instruction to the young Socialist Democrats being feathered into their little nests, walks like one, talks like one. It's the Ducky Democrat Dilettantes deducing Dame Pelosi's directives. duh!

And now we see the "human scum" on the Right defending their LYING in the face of the truth.

Oh, my same dirt, and it's nearly 5 o'clock, time for shift change. lol
Honey, you wouldn't know the truth if it were to sit on your lap, bite you on the mouth, and told you to put some ice on it.

LOL- anytime a Trumpette whines about the truth while applauding their Orange Lying Messiah it just makes me laugh.

 

[Syriusly]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but, it doesnt matter what is true or not, what matters is what dems can get the media to report. Part of what is going on is not just trump impeachment, its public opinion. The dems have done a good job at monopolizing all avenues of media. For the last 3 years, it's been trump, russia, ukraine, collusion, corruption.

My stance, as of late, is, you cant convince anyone they are right or wrong, so why bother. That dent in the cement wall is deep enough, and eventually your head will hurt, so why keep banging.

The dems control the house, so, they basically control the narrative. Repubs can come out and show proof that they are right, and the dems can just leak another news story that will occupy the media cycle, and divert attention to what they want you to "know".

Maybe my stance will change once all this comes out in the open and we can start seeing information coming from the repubs, once they are allowed to start their defense and do some questioning of their own.

I'm just ready to get all this behind us. So my stance is, let's do it! If trump is guilty, then he needs to go, if hes innocent, then we can finally put all this to rest.

ThisisMe said, "If trump is guilty, then he needs to go, if hes innocent, then we can finally put all this to rest."
​

You, I, and other U.S. taxpayers just shelled out $45 million dollars to get a Mueller Report. It cleared President Trump of the falsetto accusation that he colluded with Russia to get information on Clinton so he could use it to win the election. That never happened, but we found out he never, no not once, contacted the Russians or any other foreign government to get at the paranoid former First Lady of President Bill Clinton.

You may be influenced by people so punked out by Hillary's defeat they cried at her wannabe victory party, and heard their party leaders trying to fix the problem by promising they would "Get Trump" with impeachment the very next day. And they went about it full force for the duration of November, December, and days leading up to the inauguration of President Trump. Their orders to the Democrat operatives of the press have been daily, emailed, faxed, and hand-delivered to synchronize the specific words du jour being identical to all the other 200 news outlets who coordinate Democrat orders expediently.

So I'm not surprised people like you think who aren't tied down to either side, but favor certain elements in one side or the other.

Democrats are outdoing themselves to create an impression that President Trump has done something, It's fiction, every word of it. If you keep that in mind, their lies don't get under your toenails.

The Kavanaugh hoax came first, about the modus operandi under which the Democrats function. It was all a lie, all along, and leftist leadership made it happen. I am hoping you know the details but not wanting to offend you by regurgitating that which is provable and what part is fiction. The question is, why did the Democrats select rape as their cause celebre to erase Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court list forever? The answer is simple: they wanted women mad at President Trump, because he had a higher percentage of women voting for him than they anticipated. 90% of Americans will be madder than a hatter to think a public official has raped somebody else, particularly a single woman who is young and pretty and is vetted in persuasion to the nines.

If you need to know anything about the dirty tricks of the left, and you haven't noticed, stick around. America is in for the next phase about what America is going to do to prevent another Congressional majority from putting the swampy stuff on conceal. We cannot allow this to happen again in this nation. It is not only unconstitutional, it is anti-constitutional, in my humble opinion.

No more secret committee meetings excluding opponent party members of that committee, Democrats.

"You, I, and other U.S. taxpayers just shelled out $45 million dollars to get a Mueller Report."

Blame Republicans.

No, I blame the Deep State Demonrats. They used the two years to clean up on House Seats to carry out their promise in 2016 to pull out the "Insurance Policy" the salacious Steel Report included among other false narratives created by Hillary's pals the spinroom darlings. Nancy Pelosi did her part in orchestrating the time sequences. Jerry Nadler went on a diet and used his carefully-manipulated language to attempt to destroy the President with more and more and more lies and innuendos than most people ever tell in 10 lifetimes.

"No, I blame the Deep State Demonrats."

Well that's only because you're a fucking moron. In reality, Mueller is a Republican. He was appointed by a Republican. That Republican was filling in for another Republican who recused himself. That Republican was appointed by a Republican president.

Democrats had nothing to do with it but sit back and enjoy.

No, Mueller is a victim of dementia. He's got three years left, tops.

Mueller is a victim of the GOP hit machine.

The GOP loved Mueller until he was nominated by a Republican, who himself was appointed by the President, to investigate Russia and Trump.
Then the usual Trump lie machine went into action- and in a matter of days Mueller went from being described by the GOP as honorable and a man with integrity to being described as a RINO and a traitor.

That is what the Trump lie machine does.

 

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Who cares?

It is OFFICIAL.

Hunter Biden never attended a single board meeting. NOT ONE.

What does a BOARD MEMBER DO?

He/she ATTENDS BOARD MEETINGS


Hunter Biden was a "GHOST Board Member" who was really a CONDUIT for a KICKBACK.... No wonder the Dems don't want this INVESTIGATED....

Imbecile...

Again ... he was hired because his father was VP. If you can show Biden did something for them, then you have a case to build. But you don't even have that.

How about US aid to the Ukraine gas industry, would that count?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...99f42c-86dd-11e9-98c1-e945ae5db8fb_story.html

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A perfect example of how the "human scum" on the Right lie by editing out the actual context of anyone they quote!
Pelosi was calling out REPUBLICANS for conducting wrap-up smear campaigns, not touting the phenomenon as a go-to strategy for Democrats. That is why nothing the worthless lying scum Right ever posts is true!

Of course it's a go to strategy for the commiecrats, it's right there in the Alynsky's play book.

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