Black people advocate for segregation

[Discombobulated]

I don't know what you're so upset about,

You're mistaken. I'm not.

I'm merely trying to clarify your definition of terms. Evidently when you say "them" or "black people" you mean your characterizations are based on your own personal anecdotes rather than any empirical information.

hahahaha..word games...
I posted direct quotes from black people who are expressing their desire for freedom from white racism..
This has nothing to do with me, no matter how much you try to make it that way..
Every time you dodge, it highlights the fact that you want to deny blacks their freedom to live unmolested by white racists.
Here are their requests. Can you address them?

They don't want white cops to patrol in their "neighborhoods. White cops are too "racist".

They want white prosecutors replaced by "blacks" to handle cases that include them. White prosecutors are too "racist".

They don't want white judges to hear cases that have "black" defendants. White judges are too "racist"

They don't want white legislators representing their districts. White legislators are too "racist".
They've rejected white leadership, laws and values en masse ...they want everyone in any official capacity to be "black".

They don't want to work for white people because they are held back in promotions and salaries....White employers are too "racist".

They don't want their children taught by white teachers. White teachers are too "racist".

Why would I address the requests of these individuals? Do their opinions matter more than yours? Do they represent a broad cross section of opinion among black people? If so can you supply the data?

My opinion has nothing to do with this.

Nothing to do with what?

nothing to do with your continuing evasions and efforts to run in circles. You seem afraid to discuss things that black people have said they wanted for many years now.

Now which terms do you need me to define for you this time? LMAO..you aren't fooling me or anyone else who is reading this thread.

It's really very sad to watch people decompensate like this......it's too sad. I need a break, I think I'll watch a comedy on Netflix for a while, I'll come back and taunt you later.

Why do you want to deny blacks the right to be free from white racism as they have asked?

Is anyone ever actually persuaded by this kind of convoluted rhetorical nonsense? Hard to imagine anyone being quite that stupid.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone ....as you continue to purposely distort...I'm saying the list of grievances they have should be addressed.
To refuse to acknowledge and discuss the very things blacks THEMSELVES have asked for is racist.

They who? Which blacks? How many? Where and when?

 

[Rotagilla]

Where the fuck are the quotes, OP?

Go find them. I'm not allowing you to run me in circles.
You're dishonest and purposely obfuscating and evading.You've tried this trick with me before..Not playing the game this time.

Where are the DIRECT QUOTES? You fucking loser.

Address the list of grievances and stop trying to evade..name calling isn't going to get you anywhere with me.

 

[Discombobulated]

Black folks sure are lucky to have people like this guy to tell them what they want.

I'm not telling them anything..as you continue to avoid the topic and try to change the subject.
More snark and evasion.
I listed the grievances they have cited. This has nothing to do with me.
Why do you want to deny black people the things they ask for so they can be free from white racism?

Cited? Where? Who have you cited?

He should be cited for reckless posting.

 

[Rotagilla]

I don't know what you're so upset about,

You're mistaken. I'm not.

I'm merely trying to clarify your definition of terms. Evidently when you say "them" or "black people" you mean your characterizations are based on your own personal anecdotes rather than any empirical information.

hahahaha..word games...
I posted direct quotes from black people who are expressing their desire for freedom from white racism..
This has nothing to do with me, no matter how much you try to make it that way..
Every time you dodge, it highlights the fact that you want to deny blacks their freedom to live unmolested by white racists.
Here are their requests. Can you address them?

They don't want white cops to patrol in their "neighborhoods. White cops are too "racist".

They want white prosecutors replaced by "blacks" to handle cases that include them. White prosecutors are too "racist".

They don't want white judges to hear cases that have "black" defendants. White judges are too "racist"

They don't want white legislators representing their districts. White legislators are too "racist".
They've rejected white leadership, laws and values en masse ...they want everyone in any official capacity to be "black".

They don't want to work for white people because they are held back in promotions and salaries....White employers are too "racist".

They don't want their children taught by white teachers. White teachers are too "racist".

Why would I address the requests of these individuals? Do their opinions matter more than yours? Do they represent a broad cross section of opinion among black people? If so can you supply the data?

My opinion has nothing to do with this.

Nothing to do with what?

nothing to do with your continuing evasions and efforts to run in circles. You seem afraid to discuss things that black people have said they wanted for many years now.

Now which terms do you need me to define for you this time? LMAO..you aren't fooling me or anyone else who is reading this thread.

It's really very sad to watch people decompensate like this......it's too sad. I need a break, I think I'll watch a comedy on Netflix for a while, I'll come back and taunt you later.

Why do you want to deny blacks the right to be free from white racism as they have asked?

Is anyone ever actually persuaded by this kind of convoluted rhetorical nonsense? Hard to imagine anyone being quite that stupid.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone ....as you continue to purposely distort...I'm saying the list of grievances they have should be addressed.
To refuse to acknowledge and discuss the very things blacks THEMSELVES have asked for is racist.

They who? Which blacks? How many? Where and when?

hahahahahaha..

 

[beagle9]

I don't know what you're so upset about,

You're mistaken. I'm not.

I'm merely trying to clarify your definition of terms. Evidently when you say "them" or "black people" you mean your characterizations are based on your own personal anecdotes rather than any empirical information.

hahahaha..word games...
I posted direct quotes from black people who are expressing their desire for freedom from white racism..
This has nothing to do with me, no matter how much you try to make it that way..
Every time you dodge, it highlights the fact that you want to deny blacks their freedom to live unmolested by white racists.
Here are their requests. Can you address them?

They don't want white cops to patrol in their "neighborhoods. White cops are too "racist".

They want white prosecutors replaced by "blacks" to handle cases that include them. White prosecutors are too "racist".

They don't want white judges to hear cases that have "black" defendants. White judges are too "racist"

They don't want white legislators representing their districts. White legislators are too "racist".
They've rejected white leadership, laws and values en masse ...they want everyone in any official capacity to be "black".

They don't want to work for white people because they are held back in promotions and salaries....White employers are too "racist".

They don't want their children taught by white teachers. White teachers are too "racist".

Why would I address the requests of these individuals? Do their opinions matter more than yours? Do they represent a broad cross section of opinion among black people? If so can you supply the data?

My opinion has nothing to do with this.

Nothing to do with what?

nothing to do with your continuing evasions and efforts to run in circles. You seem afraid to discuss things that black people have said they wanted for many years now.

Now which terms do you need me to define for you this time? LMAO..you aren't fooling me or anyone else who is reading this thread.

It's really very sad to watch people decompensate like this......it's too sad. I need a break, I think I'll watch a comedy on Netflix for a while, I'll come back and taunt you later.

Why do you want to deny blacks the right to be free from white racism as they have asked?

Is anyone ever actually persuaded by this kind of convoluted rhetorical nonsense? Hard to imagine anyone being quite that stupid.

Will anyone ever take serious the thinking that goes on in all of these things, and then the spewing of ones thoughts into the air as was illustrated down in Ferguson ? You know once you are subjected to so much of these sides of the issues, it becomes easy to see right through into the true feelings that are usually held back otherwise or until something brings them out like this. Once these things are known, then the puzzle becomes clearer and clearer as to what else is connected to it all. Jumping the gun is never a good thing or playing ones hand to early is not a good thing either, but sometimes it happens that way. We should be a nation of laws and that is it, and not a nation of one culture thinking it can destroy another or vice versa.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Do me a favor and give me a link to the study.

Thanks.

Happy reading.

The Center For Equal Opportunity? Outstanding!

Is that study peer reviewed?

What's your problem? The University of Maryland doesn't dispute the data - it's their data. They don't dispute their special programs.

You apparently don't understand how peer review works. This isn't developing new knowledge. Are FBI Crime Statistics peer reviewed?

Every institution of higher learning has affirmative action programs, so it amounts to career suicide to criticize such programs from within. These leaves those on the outside. We see the same with government spending. Bureaucrats NEVER advocate that their own departments cut spending and fire government employees. Outside critics have to look at government budgets and staff effectiveness and analyze the situation.

The data is real. If these guys were cooking up data U of M would have screamed to the high heavens.

Do you honestly feel that you've somehow invalidated the study? Really?

I am not disputing the raw data. It shows that the numbers didn't favor black applicants as much in 1999 as in 1996. Did you notice that?

I am talking about the conclusions drawn from the data. I think it is a load of shit. Unless it is peer reviewed.....it can be a load of shit and still get printed somewhere.

The Center. For Equal Opportunity is an organization with an agenda and it is funded by John Birch Society weirdos.

Be honest. Where did you happen upon that study?

 

[Rikurzhen]

Holy shit. She is there for work. Fucking losers think you have a "gotchya" and you can't help yourselves.

You're the one who distorted the issue. I talked about parents sending their kids to schools which are 90% minority because this would culturally enrich their own child.

You then brought up your daughter. What does her workplace have to do with my point? Every employee goes where their employer sends them or they're out of a job.

Did you send your daughter, when she was 7 or 10 to a 90% minority school, and do so on purpose, in order for her to benefit from the cultural enrichment embodied within the school?

 

[Rotagilla]

Holy shit. She is there for work. Fucking losers think you have a "gotchya" and you can't help yourselves.

You're the one who distorted the issue. I talked about parents sending their kids to schools which are 90% minority because this would culturally enrich their own child.

You then brought up your daughter. What does her workplace have to do with my point? Every employee goes where their employer sends them or they're out of a job.

Did you send your daughter, when she was 7 or 10 to a 90% minority school, and do so on purpose, in order for her to benefit from the cultural enrichment embodied within the school?

You'll not get a serious reply. I'm done with them. Let them run around in circles by themselves

 

[LoneLaugher]

This country is so messed up that it isn't even funny anymore. It isn't just one thing, but a list of things coming together to destroy certain cultures or stomp on them like they do Israel, and then trying to replace it somehow with others they think are better or worse. It's time for all to come together in an educated way, and leave all the idiot racist behind.

I told my daughter when she went to a majority black school, that if they could not except her decent and moral culture and teachings from home, and except her for whom she was as a person in this way, then they were not her friends at all. I told her to never bend to the pressures, and she didn't. We should respect each others cultures if they are decent, moral and respectable, and we should not think that we should have to respect or tolerate a culture (i.e a drug, cult or gang culture for example), in which is not decent and respectable. This goes for all races and their made up cultures in which they produce, and then seek for others to join them or else.

accept

 

[Discombobulated]

I don't know what you're so upset about,

You're mistaken. I'm not.

I'm merely trying to clarify your definition of terms. Evidently when you say "them" or "black people" you mean your characterizations are based on your own personal anecdotes rather than any empirical information.

hahahaha..word games...
I posted direct quotes from black people who are expressing their desire for freedom from white racism..
This has nothing to do with me, no matter how much you try to make it that way..
Every time you dodge, it highlights the fact that you want to deny blacks their freedom to live unmolested by white racists.
Here are their requests. Can you address them?

They don't want white cops to patrol in their "neighborhoods. White cops are too "racist".

They want white prosecutors replaced by "blacks" to handle cases that include them. White prosecutors are too "racist".

They don't want white judges to hear cases that have "black" defendants. White judges are too "racist"

They don't want white legislators representing their districts. White legislators are too "racist".
They've rejected white leadership, laws and values en masse ...they want everyone in any official capacity to be "black".

They don't want to work for white people because they are held back in promotions and salaries....White employers are too "racist".

They don't want their children taught by white teachers. White teachers are too "racist".

Why would I address the requests of these individuals? Do their opinions matter more than yours? Do they represent a broad cross section of opinion among black people? If so can you supply the data?

My opinion has nothing to do with this.

Nothing to do with what?

nothing to do with your continuing evasions and efforts to run in circles. You seem afraid to discuss things that black people have said they wanted for many years now.

Now which terms do you need me to define for you this time? LMAO..you aren't fooling me or anyone else who is reading this thread.

It's really very sad to watch people decompensate like this......it's too sad. I need a break, I think I'll watch a comedy on Netflix for a while, I'll come back and taunt you later.

Why do you want to deny blacks the right to be free from white racism as they have asked?

Is anyone ever actually persuaded by this kind of convoluted rhetorical nonsense? Hard to imagine anyone being quite that stupid.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone ....as you continue to purposely distort...I'm saying the list of grievances they have should be addressed.
To refuse to acknowledge and discuss the very things blacks THEMSELVES have asked for is racist.

They who? Which blacks? How many? Where and when?

hahahahahaha..

More intensive research based on personal anecdotes and contrived perception. Keep up the good work professor.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Holy shit. She is there for work. Fucking losers think you have a "gotchya" and you can't help yourselves.

You're the one who distorted the issue. I talked about parents sending their kids to schools which are 90% minority because this would culturally enrich their own child.

You then brought up your daughter. What does her workplace have to do with my point? Every employee goes where their employer sends them or they're out of a job.

Did you send your daughter, when she was 7 or 10 to a 90% minority school, and do so on purpose, in order for her to benefit from the cultural enrichment embodied within the school?

Idiot. Her job is to work with at risk students. It's an Americorps program. She chose her location.

Fuck off.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Holy shit. She is there for work. Fucking losers think you have a "gotchya" and you can't help yourselves.

You're the one who distorted the issue. I talked about parents sending their kids to schools which are 90% minority because this would culturally enrich their own child.

You then brought up your daughter. What does her workplace have to do with my point? Every employee goes where their employer sends them or they're out of a job.

Did you send your daughter, when she was 7 or 10 to a 90% minority school, and do so on purpose, in order for her to benefit from the cultural enrichment embodied within the school?

You'll not get a serious reply. I'm done with them. Let them run around in circles by themselves

Where are the direct quotes? Who have you cited?

 

[Rikurzhen]

I am talking about the conclusions drawn from the data. I think it is a load of shit. Unless it is peer reviewed.....it can be a load of shit and still get printed somewhere.

Spell it out. Tell me which conclusion you don't accept and why.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I am talking about the conclusions drawn from the data. I think it is a load of shit. Unless it is peer reviewed.....it can be a load of shit and still get printed somewhere.

Spell it out. Tell me which conclusion you don't accept and why.

I don't accept the conclusion that the UMSM expended greater time and energy to educate the black students who were admitted than they did for the white students who were admitted.

The study does not document any preferential treatment for black students regarding actual course work and proficiency.

 

[Rotagilla]

Will anyone ever take serious the thinking that goes on in all of these things, and then the spewing of ones thoughts into the air as was illustrated down in Ferguson ? You know once you are subjected to so much of these sides of the issues, it becomes easy to see right through into the true feelings that are usually held back otherwise or until something brings them out like this. Once these things are known, then the puzzle becomes clearer and clearer as to what else is connected to it all. Jumping the gun is never a good thing or playing ones hand to early is not a good thing either, but sometimes it happens that way. We should be a nation of laws and that is it, and not a nation of one culture thinking it can destroy another or vice versa.

It would be nice if we all got along and had ice cream together but it's just not going to happen.

I think the black people have made their historic grievances very clear.
Blacks are extremely dissatisfied with the way they've been treated by white people throughout history. No one can deny they have been outspoken about it.

Instead of fighting and namecalling why not seek a way to resolve the problem?

The list of grievances I posted are just the ones I've been hearing these past 2 weeks....There are lots more.

..but no one wants to examine and discuss them point by point...many prefer to grandstand and agitate as a substitute for polite discussion....as you have no doubt seen here.

 

[Rikurzhen]

I am talking about the conclusions drawn from the data. I think it is a load of shit. Unless it is peer reviewed.....it can be a load of shit and still get printed somewhere.

Spell it out. Tell me which conclusion you don't accept and why.

I don't accept the conclusion that the UMSM expended greater time and energy to educate the black students who were admitted than they did for the white students who were admitted.

The study does not document any preferential treatment for black students regarding actual course work and proficiency.

Oh brother, work on your reading comprehensions skills:

Not surprisingly, the medical students are aware of the double standards for some racial and ethnic groups. In its 1996 Minority Achievement Report, UMSM notes, “[Minority students] received unlimited hours for tutoring and other support which is perceived by the non-minority student as ‘special treatment.’” UMSM in the report says nothing about how it might fix this problem.

To keep URMs in school, UMSM offers many types of support to its targeted minorities. Outreach is extensive: Program and support service information and applications are sent to all targeted minority students admitted to UMSM. The medical school also makes available a six-week “Pre-Matriculation Summer Program” for minority and other disadvantaged students.This is a summer program that goes over critical portions of the mandatory first-year coursework, even before the in-coming students formally take these classes. The program also works on their reading and study skills, and participants receive counseling even before they start their first year. They may also obtain academic tutoring if they anticipate academic difficulty (although tutoring is available to others only when they actually face academic difficulty).

During the academic year, UMSM also provides the following services to URMs:

• close monitoring by an academic committee;
• 
  
• Step 1 preparation in the form of study-skills workshops related to Step 1 preparation and test taking, two practice testing sessions for Step 1, review materials for Step 1, and individual counseling;
• 
  
• tutoring and practice exams for those receiving D’s or F’s in a course (who are required to take make-up exams or retake the course),
• 
  
• minority faculty and student advising;
• 
  
• Stanley Kaplan preparation courses to prepare for testing; and
• 
  
• peer and group tutoring for specific courses, and other interventions.

UMSM recognizes the need for academic monitoring and intervention from the very beginning of an at-risk student’s medical education. First, URM students are flagged by the monitoring committee based on MCAT scores. “The purpose of [UMSM’s academic monitoring] is to identify and contact first and second-year medical students whose test performances indicate a need for academic or non-academic support.”

Given the generally lower test scores of black students, they receive a disproportionate amount
of academic monitoring. An average of 25 minority students are discussed at each academic monitoring meeting.

UMSM also provides peer tutoring. In 1994, first-year students received 78 hours of peer tutoring. Minority freshmen received 56 hours, or 72 percent, of those hours. Ninety-five percent of peer tutoring hours for second-year students were received by minority students. Academic counseling hours also went disproportionately towards minority students. Sixty-nine percent of academic counseling hours for first-year students went to minorities, as did 81 percent of hours for second-year students. Even when hiring tutors, UMSM relies on double standards based on race and ethnicity. White and Asian medical students must have had A’s in the courses they are to tutor, while minority tutors (blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans) need only have B’s, provided they have the requisite but undefined noncognitive factors​

 

[LoneLaugher]

I am talking about the conclusions drawn from the data. I think it is a load of shit. Unless it is peer reviewed.....it can be a load of shit and still get printed somewhere.

Spell it out. Tell me which conclusion you don't accept and why.

I don't accept the conclusion that the UMSM expended greater time and energy to educate the black students who were admitted than they did for the white students who were admitted.

The study does not document any preferential treatment for black students regarding actual course work and proficiency.

Oh brother, work on your reading comprehensions skills:

Not surprisingly, the medical students are aware of the double standards for some racial and ethnic groups. In its 1996 Minority Achievement Report, UMSM notes, “[Minority students] received unlimited hours for tutoring and other support which is perceived by the non-minority student as ‘special treatment.’” UMSM in the report says nothing about how it might fix this problem.

To keep URMs in school, UMSM offers many types of support to its targeted minorities. Outreach is extensive: Program and support service information and applications are sent to all targeted minority students admitted to UMSM. The medical school also makes available a six-week “Pre-Matriculation Summer Program” for minority and other disadvantaged students.This is a summer program that goes over critical portions of the mandatory first-year coursework, even before the in-coming students formally take these classes. The program also works on their reading and study skills, and participants receive counseling even before they start their first year. They may also obtain academic tutoring if they anticipate academic difficulty (although tutoring is available to others only when they actually face academic difficulty).

During the academic year, UMSM also provides the following services to URMs:

• close monitoring by an academic committee;
• 
  
• Step 1 preparation in the form of study-skills workshops related to Step 1 preparation and test taking, two practice testing sessions for Step 1, review materials for Step 1, and individual counseling;
• 
  
• tutoring and practice exams for those receiving D’s or F’s in a course (who are required to take make-up exams or retake the course),
• 
  
• minority faculty and student advising;
• 
  
• Stanley Kaplan preparation courses to prepare for testing; and
• 
  
• peer and group tutoring for specific courses, and other interventions.

UMSM recognizes the need for academic monitoring and intervention from the very beginning of an at-risk student’s medical education. First, URM students are flagged by the monitoring committee based on MCAT scores. “The purpose of [UMSM’s academic monitoring] is to identify and contact first and second-year medical students whose test performances indicate a need for academic or non-academic support.”

Given the generally lower test scores of black students, they receive a disproportionate amount
of academic monitoring. An average of 25 minority students are discussed at each academic monitoring meeting.

UMSM also provides peer tutoring. In 1994, first-year students received 78 hours of peer tutoring. Minority freshmen received 56 hours, or 72 percent, of those hours. Ninety-five percent of peer tutoring hours for second-year students were received by minority students. Academic counseling hours also went disproportionately towards minority students. Sixty-nine percent of academic counseling hours for first-year students went to minorities, as did 81 percent of hours for second-year students. Even when hiring tutors, UMSM relies on double standards based on race and ethnicity. White and Asian medical students must have had A’s in the courses they are to tutor, while minority tutors (blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans) need only have B’s, provided they have the requisite but undefined noncognitive factors​

Do white students have access to those tutoring programs?
Are there any other tutoring programs not mentioned?

 

[beagle9]

The white supremacists have rejected the laws of the land and compassion of the heart outstretched to them.

They will dwindle into nothingness as the millennials grow older.

Is there anything weirder than an educated person who believes that shit? I understand idiots like Shootspeders, Steve McGarret and Rotogila. But this Rikurzhen guy has a brain. What do you think happened to him?

Al you need do is refute my points. Simple. SHOW ME WHERE I AM WRONG.

What happened to me? I too was raised in liberal dogma, just like all of us, but I've also traveled the world, I've been educated, I know history, I know how to analyze situations, I understand people, and the writing is on the wall. When history shows that all multicultural societies have failed, you need to show me what exactly we're doing which is different enough from past experiments to turn predicted failure into dreamt of success.

But forget all of the above - the key point where I, and others in this thread, are different is that we've reconciled our Private Truths with our Public Truths. That's really all there is to it. Liberals in Portland love to talk about how much they value multiculturalism as they CHOOSE to live in the whitest city in America. Their private truth is that they like living in a white enclave, their PUBLIC LIE is that love multiculturalism.

Most of the people on this thread, and this includes guys like you, don't live your life true to your professed public statements. I have access to geographic mapping software where if you give me your ZIP code I can produce a map of the racial demographics of your census tract and if you give me your address I can produce a map of the racial demographics of your street. I'm pretty certain of what those maps would reveal for most of the critics in this thread.

I've not yet met one white liberal who has purposely chosen to send his kids to a school where the white population is only 10%. Think of the rich multicultural experience his kids would have at that school. Remember, multiculturalism is something that guys like you say is beneficial and enriching so we should expect guys like you to be making a beeline for these multiculturally rich schools. Your Public Lies are very at odds with your PRIVATE TRUTHS. Mine are not, mine are aligned. I care more about being honest with reality than kowtowing to liberal social fictions.

Silliness. You are completely and intentionally disregarding the institutionalized segregation that replaced legal segregation in this nation.

Personal note......since you have brought it up. My home is multicultural.

As we speak.....my 18 year old daughter is getting accustomed to her new surroundings. She is living in East Harlem and recently got assigned to a middle school in the Bronx. The school is over 90% minority. I can assure you that she isn't shying away from associating with black people. She is diving in head first.

My 25 year old son is a police officer in a city that is majority black. His immediate supervisor is black as is the Chief of. Police.

Wait 18 years old, and assigned to a middle school in the Bronx ? Shouldn't she be in high school at 17, but she is 18 years old in middle school ? Ok, but would she come home and tell you the truth if she was not wanted there, and this as according to those who wouldn't want her there if she did not conform or assimilate like they think she should in order to fit in or would they just try and make you proud no matter what hell she might go through in life ? You do know that there are a lot of blacks whom think that assimilation into a white culture is selling out don't you ? You do know that black republicans are sell out's don't you ? Are you willing for the possibility of your daughter to lose her own culture out of intimidation, and by bullying if there are those who want her to join them, and if not then get out ? Are you willing for your daughter to become a loner because she believes in her culture in which she has chosen in life, but knows that she don't fit in so she becomes dis-disillusioned and detached from the norms in her life after that ? This happens, and it happens all the time but sacrifices are made for the bigger struggle in America, and this is for the struggle for a multicultural society to work, even at the expense of those who are cast into the flames of a situation they have no control over. What about your 25 year old son whom might find that he is not wanted either in that majority black community ? Would he tell you or just deal with it as best he can, and not to make you think that you may not have warned them of these things in which they are learning about now ?

Holy shit. She is there for work. Fucking losers think you have a "gotchya" and you can't help yourselves.

Are you a "race realist" as well?

A simple clarification is all that is needed, but you instead are looking for the gotcha now aren't you ?

 

[LoneLaugher]

A simple clarification is all that is needed, but you instead are looking for the gotcha now aren't you ?[/QUOTE]

Nope. You jumped on what you thought was a lie on my part.

 

[beagle9]

I don't know what you're so upset about,

You're mistaken. I'm not.

I'm merely trying to clarify your definition of terms. Evidently when you say "them" or "black people" you mean your characterizations are based on your own personal anecdotes rather than any empirical information.

hahahaha..word games...
I posted direct quotes from black people who are expressing their desire for freedom from white racism..
This has nothing to do with me, no matter how much you try to make it that way..
Every time you dodge, it highlights the fact that you want to deny blacks their freedom to live unmolested by white racists.
Here are their requests. Can you address them?

They don't want white cops to patrol in their "neighborhoods. White cops are too "racist".

They want white prosecutors replaced by "blacks" to handle cases that include them. White prosecutors are too "racist".

They don't want white judges to hear cases that have "black" defendants. White judges are too "racist"

They don't want white legislators representing their districts. White legislators are too "racist".
They've rejected white leadership, laws and values en masse ...they want everyone in any official capacity to be "black".

They don't want to work for white people because they are held back in promotions and salaries....White employers are too "racist".

They don't want their children taught by white teachers. White teachers are too "racist".

Why would I address the requests of these individuals? Do their opinions matter more than yours? Do they represent a broad cross section of opinion among black people? If so can you supply the data?

My opinion has nothing to do with this.

Nothing to do with what?

nothing to do with your continuing evasions and efforts to run in circles. You seem afraid to discuss things that black people have said they wanted for many years now.

Now which terms do you need me to define for you this time? LMAO..you aren't fooling me or anyone else who is reading this thread.

It's really very sad to watch people decompensate like this......it's too sad. I need a break, I think I'll watch a comedy on Netflix for a while, I'll come back and taunt you later.

Why do you want to deny blacks the right to be free from white racism as they have asked?

Is anyone ever actually persuaded by this kind of convoluted rhetorical nonsense? Hard to imagine anyone being quite that stupid.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone ....as you continue to purposely distort...I'm saying the list of grievances they have should be addressed.
To refuse to acknowledge and discuss the very things blacks THEMSELVES have asked for is racist.

They who? Which blacks? How many? Where and when?

hahahahahaha..

More intensive research based on personal anecdotes and contrived perception. Keep up the good work professor.

All one has to do is listen to a daily does of NPR or MSNBC, and they will learn all of this stuff quickly.