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Did you bother to listen to the clip? Or are you going by somebody's YouTube title?
Because there's no reference to racism in there at all. Doesn't exist.

Anyway, as just noted to one of the denser wags, racism, when it does exist, is not a political philosophy anyway, but a personal one.

Yes, I have listened to it. It was in the news when Joe Biden first uttered those words. It is an old incident now. He even apologized for it. Besides Indian Americans are not known for holding grudges.

He is family now :)

Biden: I may have relatives in India
Biden I may have relatives in India

US Vice President Joe Biden resolves the mystery of distant relatives in Mumbai
US Vice President Joe Biden resolves the mystery of distant relatives in Mumbai - timesofindia-economictimes

And his apologizing had far more to do with my current sigline than with anything in the clip, because there's no reference to racism in there at all. I've seen this clip before, trotted out as a cum hoc fallacy by partisan hacks trying to pin a tale on all donkeys. Then I point out that the content of their clip doesn't contain any of what they imagine it does. (Then they run away)

First of all it's a grammatical train wreck. Obviously you don't need an Indian accent, or any kind of accent, to walk into a store. He tried to allude to the store keepers and reversed the roles. Second, it refers to language ("accent") which has nothing to do with anyone's race. It's stupidly phrased too -- "Indian accent", as if there is only one :lol: Third, since racism requires a value judgment ("all Indians/blacks/Chinese/etc are inferior because X, Y, Z") it completely fails to qualify. However clumsily, the speaker's trying to boast of a large Indian contingent in his state. Noting that they're frequently seen in Dunkin Donuts makes no value judgment on anybody's race. It merely notes that they exist. There's nothing "racist" about noting that some race or ethnic group exists. Existence isn't subject to opinion.

It's part of the dumb-down hyper-PC knuckledragger mentality bullshit that attempts to imagine that making a reference to the presence of a race --- is the same thing as making value judgments about that race.

Biden would need to apologise for an atrocious assault on the English language, but that's about it.

I found Joe Biden's remarks quite offensive and I was not alone on that. Did you not hear him doing fake Indian accent in that video? That was very rude. On top of that he was alluding that pretty much all Indians work at Dunkin Donuts or 7-11. This feeds into the stereo type. Actually, there was a poster here on this very board who attacked me because I objected to his anti-Muslim hate posts. He was trying to get me angry by saying that I worked at a 7-11. Racist people in the U.S. use references to 7-11 and Dunkin Donuts to put down Indians.

No, I heard nothing like that, and language accents have nothing to do with race anyway. Accents are a product of linguistic upbringing.

And again, working at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts (or anywhere) makes no comment about one's race. To the extent there's a pattern there (Arab taxi drivers, Hispanic chambermaids etc) it would have to do with cultural connections -- 2015 immigrant from Country X arrives, the 2014 and 2013 immigrants hook him up with a job. Nothing "racial" about that process, and nothing about it indicates that said ethnic group would be limited to those jobs.

Nor did Biden. Right from the beginning of the clip he's clearly bragging on his state's growing Indian population; and saying it to an Indian. Now why would he be doing that if his intent was the opposite?

But here's the real test:
In the clip itself, the guy he's talking to --- isn't "offended" at all. He gets the meaning. He's smiling back. This is yet another case of Revisionistas trying to manipulate and morph the news into something it isn't. This is PC manipulation bullshit, and it's easily disproven by simply listening to the content.

Just out of curiosity on your earlier note about "why aren't there more Democratic Indians in politics, I looked up the Wiki page of Indian-Americans in any kind of politics. Scanning down the list as far as those whose political parties were noted, outside of the red state governors already mentioned I found 14 of them to be Democrats, 2 Republicans, and a Socialist. One of the Republicans was in Orange County California -- again, a red zone.

Does 14-2 surprise you?

I along with many other Indians and Indian Americans found that remark offensive. I personally do not think that he was trying to be too mean or cruel to Indian Americans. Sometimes we end up saying things that do not do justice to our intention. This may have been that case. I will leave it at that.

As far as your list is concerned, it may not be very credible because it listed Sashi Tharoor who has nothing to do with the US. But yes, 14-2 in favor Democratic party is surprising.

Yes, I didn't count that one. Only those who were clearly identified. 14-2 is exactly what I would have expected; for the same reason, again, one would expect similar if one searched for "Muslim politicians" or "gay politicians" or "women politicians". The DP is identified with the common folk, and has been for a bit over a century, since the DP absorbed the Populist movement and the RP drifted to the interests of the rich and corporations, all around the turn of the 19th-to-20th century.

"Senator Biden will be surprised to hear that I am a cardiothoracic surgeon, leading a national association of Indian Americans who are physicians, attorneys, and small business owners.” Vijayanagar said in a statement issued then. “It's amazing to know we don't all work at Dunkin Donuts or the local 7-Eleven.”

“The contributions to America by Indian Americans in the fields of medicine, education, science, and business have been well-documented,” he said. “We're not asking Senator Biden to apologize for his embarrassing, stereotypical comments. However, we do appreciate knowing what he really thinks of his Indian-American constituents in Delaware.”

“Senator Biden will be really shocked that there will be another Indian-American in Congress,” said Raj Bhakta, who at the time was running for a U.S. House seat from Pennsylvania as a Republican. “I will be sure to stop by his office when I get there. I would not be bringing coffee.”

Indian Americans Past Biden s 7-Eleven Remark GOP Leader Says

I'm afraid that's a strawman, since Biden did not say, or imply, that Indians in Delaware are *all* in DD or 711. That part was inserted where it did not exist. I mean, check the whole video-- it's not there. I'm afraid this amounts to disingenuous politician-speak pandering. It's basically a "Checkers speech", if you catch my meaning.
 
Yes, I have listened to it. It was in the news when Joe Biden first uttered those words. It is an old incident now. He even apologized for it. Besides Indian Americans are not known for holding grudges.

He is family now :)

Biden: I may have relatives in India
Biden I may have relatives in India

US Vice President Joe Biden resolves the mystery of distant relatives in Mumbai
US Vice President Joe Biden resolves the mystery of distant relatives in Mumbai - timesofindia-economictimes

And his apologizing had far more to do with my current sigline than with anything in the clip, because there's no reference to racism in there at all. I've seen this clip before, trotted out as a cum hoc fallacy by partisan hacks trying to pin a tale on all donkeys. Then I point out that the content of their clip doesn't contain any of what they imagine it does. (Then they run away)

First of all it's a grammatical train wreck. Obviously you don't need an Indian accent, or any kind of accent, to walk into a store. He tried to allude to the store keepers and reversed the roles. Second, it refers to language ("accent") which has nothing to do with anyone's race. It's stupidly phrased too -- "Indian accent", as if there is only one :lol: Third, since racism requires a value judgment ("all Indians/blacks/Chinese/etc are inferior because X, Y, Z") it completely fails to qualify. However clumsily, the speaker's trying to boast of a large Indian contingent in his state. Noting that they're frequently seen in Dunkin Donuts makes no value judgment on anybody's race. It merely notes that they exist. There's nothing "racist" about noting that some race or ethnic group exists. Existence isn't subject to opinion.

It's part of the dumb-down hyper-PC knuckledragger mentality bullshit that attempts to imagine that making a reference to the presence of a race --- is the same thing as making value judgments about that race.

Biden would need to apologise for an atrocious assault on the English language, but that's about it.

I found Joe Biden's remarks quite offensive and I was not alone on that. Did you not hear him doing fake Indian accent in that video? That was very rude. On top of that he was alluding that pretty much all Indians work at Dunkin Donuts or 7-11. This feeds into the stereo type. Actually, there was a poster here on this very board who attacked me because I objected to his anti-Muslim hate posts. He was trying to get me angry by saying that I worked at a 7-11. Racist people in the U.S. use references to 7-11 and Dunkin Donuts to put down Indians.

No, I heard nothing like that, and language accents have nothing to do with race anyway. Accents are a product of linguistic upbringing.

And again, working at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts (or anywhere) makes no comment about one's race. To the extent there's a pattern there (Arab taxi drivers, Hispanic chambermaids etc) it would have to do with cultural connections -- 2015 immigrant from Country X arrives, the 2014 and 2013 immigrants hook him up with a job. Nothing "racial" about that process, and nothing about it indicates that said ethnic group would be limited to those jobs.

Nor did Biden. Right from the beginning of the clip he's clearly bragging on his state's growing Indian population; and saying it to an Indian. Now why would he be doing that if his intent was the opposite?

But here's the real test:
In the clip itself, the guy he's talking to --- isn't "offended" at all. He gets the meaning. He's smiling back. This is yet another case of Revisionistas trying to manipulate and morph the news into something it isn't. This is PC manipulation bullshit, and it's easily disproven by simply listening to the content.

Just out of curiosity on your earlier note about "why aren't there more Democratic Indians in politics, I looked up the Wiki page of Indian-Americans in any kind of politics. Scanning down the list as far as those whose political parties were noted, outside of the red state governors already mentioned I found 14 of them to be Democrats, 2 Republicans, and a Socialist. One of the Republicans was in Orange County California -- again, a red zone.

Does 14-2 surprise you?

I along with many other Indians and Indian Americans found that remark offensive. I personally do not think that he was trying to be too mean or cruel to Indian Americans. Sometimes we end up saying things that do not do justice to our intention. This may have been that case. I will leave it at that.

As far as your list is concerned, it may not be very credible because it listed Sashi Tharoor who has nothing to do with the US. But yes, 14-2 in favor Democratic party is surprising.

Yes, I didn't count that one. Only those who were clearly identified. 14-2 is exactly what I would have expected; for the same reason, again, one would expect similar if one searched for "Muslim politicians" or "gay politicians" or "women politicians". The DP is identified with the common folk, and has been for a bit over a century, since the DP absorbed the Populist movement and the RP drifted to the interests of the rich and corporations, all around the turn of the 19th-to-20th century.

"Senator Biden will be surprised to hear that I am a cardiothoracic surgeon, leading a national association of Indian Americans who are physicians, attorneys, and small business owners.” Vijayanagar said in a statement issued then. “It's amazing to know we don't all work at Dunkin Donuts or the local 7-Eleven.”

“The contributions to America by Indian Americans in the fields of medicine, education, science, and business have been well-documented,” he said. “We're not asking Senator Biden to apologize for his embarrassing, stereotypical comments. However, we do appreciate knowing what he really thinks of his Indian-American constituents in Delaware.”

“Senator Biden will be really shocked that there will be another Indian-American in Congress,” said Raj Bhakta, who at the time was running for a U.S. House seat from Pennsylvania as a Republican. “I will be sure to stop by his office when I get there. I would not be bringing coffee.”

Indian Americans Past Biden s 7-Eleven Remark GOP Leader Says

I'm afraid that's a strawman, since Biden did not say, or imply, that Indians in Delaware are *all* in DD or 711. That part was inserted where it did not exist. I mean, check the whole video-- it's not there. I'm afraid this amounts to disingenuous politician-speak pandering. It's basically a "Checkers speech", if you catch my meaning.

Well, Biden is very well liked by Indian Americans. So that puts the whole issue to the rest.
 
And his apologizing had far more to do with my current sigline than with anything in the clip, because there's no reference to racism in there at all. I've seen this clip before, trotted out as a cum hoc fallacy by partisan hacks trying to pin a tale on all donkeys. Then I point out that the content of their clip doesn't contain any of what they imagine it does. (Then they run away)

First of all it's a grammatical train wreck. Obviously you don't need an Indian accent, or any kind of accent, to walk into a store. He tried to allude to the store keepers and reversed the roles. Second, it refers to language ("accent") which has nothing to do with anyone's race. It's stupidly phrased too -- "Indian accent", as if there is only one :lol: Third, since racism requires a value judgment ("all Indians/blacks/Chinese/etc are inferior because X, Y, Z") it completely fails to qualify. However clumsily, the speaker's trying to boast of a large Indian contingent in his state. Noting that they're frequently seen in Dunkin Donuts makes no value judgment on anybody's race. It merely notes that they exist. There's nothing "racist" about noting that some race or ethnic group exists. Existence isn't subject to opinion.

It's part of the dumb-down hyper-PC knuckledragger mentality bullshit that attempts to imagine that making a reference to the presence of a race --- is the same thing as making value judgments about that race.

Biden would need to apologise for an atrocious assault on the English language, but that's about it.

I found Joe Biden's remarks quite offensive and I was not alone on that. Did you not hear him doing fake Indian accent in that video? That was very rude. On top of that he was alluding that pretty much all Indians work at Dunkin Donuts or 7-11. This feeds into the stereo type. Actually, there was a poster here on this very board who attacked me because I objected to his anti-Muslim hate posts. He was trying to get me angry by saying that I worked at a 7-11. Racist people in the U.S. use references to 7-11 and Dunkin Donuts to put down Indians.

No, I heard nothing like that, and language accents have nothing to do with race anyway. Accents are a product of linguistic upbringing.

And again, working at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts (or anywhere) makes no comment about one's race. To the extent there's a pattern there (Arab taxi drivers, Hispanic chambermaids etc) it would have to do with cultural connections -- 2015 immigrant from Country X arrives, the 2014 and 2013 immigrants hook him up with a job. Nothing "racial" about that process, and nothing about it indicates that said ethnic group would be limited to those jobs.

Nor did Biden. Right from the beginning of the clip he's clearly bragging on his state's growing Indian population; and saying it to an Indian. Now why would he be doing that if his intent was the opposite?

But here's the real test:
In the clip itself, the guy he's talking to --- isn't "offended" at all. He gets the meaning. He's smiling back. This is yet another case of Revisionistas trying to manipulate and morph the news into something it isn't. This is PC manipulation bullshit, and it's easily disproven by simply listening to the content.

Just out of curiosity on your earlier note about "why aren't there more Democratic Indians in politics, I looked up the Wiki page of Indian-Americans in any kind of politics. Scanning down the list as far as those whose political parties were noted, outside of the red state governors already mentioned I found 14 of them to be Democrats, 2 Republicans, and a Socialist. One of the Republicans was in Orange County California -- again, a red zone.

Does 14-2 surprise you?

I along with many other Indians and Indian Americans found that remark offensive. I personally do not think that he was trying to be too mean or cruel to Indian Americans. Sometimes we end up saying things that do not do justice to our intention. This may have been that case. I will leave it at that.

As far as your list is concerned, it may not be very credible because it listed Sashi Tharoor who has nothing to do with the US. But yes, 14-2 in favor Democratic party is surprising.

Yes, I didn't count that one. Only those who were clearly identified. 14-2 is exactly what I would have expected; for the same reason, again, one would expect similar if one searched for "Muslim politicians" or "gay politicians" or "women politicians". The DP is identified with the common folk, and has been for a bit over a century, since the DP absorbed the Populist movement and the RP drifted to the interests of the rich and corporations, all around the turn of the 19th-to-20th century.

"Senator Biden will be surprised to hear that I am a cardiothoracic surgeon, leading a national association of Indian Americans who are physicians, attorneys, and small business owners.” Vijayanagar said in a statement issued then. “It's amazing to know we don't all work at Dunkin Donuts or the local 7-Eleven.”

“The contributions to America by Indian Americans in the fields of medicine, education, science, and business have been well-documented,” he said. “We're not asking Senator Biden to apologize for his embarrassing, stereotypical comments. However, we do appreciate knowing what he really thinks of his Indian-American constituents in Delaware.”

“Senator Biden will be really shocked that there will be another Indian-American in Congress,” said Raj Bhakta, who at the time was running for a U.S. House seat from Pennsylvania as a Republican. “I will be sure to stop by his office when I get there. I would not be bringing coffee.”

Indian Americans Past Biden s 7-Eleven Remark GOP Leader Says

I'm afraid that's a strawman, since Biden did not say, or imply, that Indians in Delaware are *all* in DD or 711. That part was inserted where it did not exist. I mean, check the whole video-- it's not there. I'm afraid this amounts to disingenuous politician-speak pandering. It's basically a "Checkers speech", if you catch my meaning.

Well, Biden is very well liked by Indian Americans. So that puts the whole issue to the rest.

I know -- where I take issue is with the partisan hacks around here that insist their rhetorical emperor is wearing clothes when everybody can see he's naked.

Biden's a colloquial and impetuous kind of speaker. I can't even imagine him articulating in formal English.
 
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Nikki Haley THIS is what a REAL Governor acts like! Thank you Gov Jindal!


Who is Bobby Jindal???

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Oh, you mean PIYUSH Jindal.

Yeah, he's an interesting guy...

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It's called assimilation. The opposite of what democrat black racists do. They are rooted for hundreds of years in the US and then make up names in order to segregate themselves by skin color and defy assimilation.
 
She did not do it for political correctness. She did it for her soul and just as importantly, she did for the unity of this country.
She did it to protect South Carolina from the strong-arm tactics of the democrats who are dividing this country.
She did it because she couldn't look the families of the dead in the eye if she continued to fly that flag

The person who pulled down that flag was Dylann Roof
LOL this the first time I have seen an actual moron claim the flag did the killing. LMAO..wow or it was a reason for it..LOL....wow.

The killer celebrated the flag as supporting his views
The Virginia Army battle flag doesn't represent murdering 9 people. Period. By that standard we need to ban all Gold's Gym shirts and close all Gold's Gyms.
Afraid it does

Dylann Roofs use of the flag was more than a coincidence. It has been used as a symbol of black oppression for 150 years.
 
She did it to protect South Carolina from the strong-arm tactics of the democrats who are dividing this country.
She did it because she couldn't look the families of the dead in the eye if she continued to fly that flag

The person who pulled down that flag was Dylann Roof
LOL this the first time I have seen an actual moron claim the flag did the killing. LMAO..wow or it was a reason for it..LOL....wow.

The killer celebrated the flag as supporting his views
The Virginia Army battle flag doesn't represent murdering 9 people. Period. By that standard we need to ban all Gold's Gym shirts and close all Gold's Gyms.
Afraid it does

Dylann Roofs use of the flag was more than a coincidence. It has been used as a symbol of black oppression for 150 years.
Only to weak minded fools. Simple fact is blacks aren't a good fit for civilized society. 75 years of affirmative action,forced integration into white schools,quotas,favors etc and STILL the vast majority live in government housing slums living off welfare leaching off the workers of this country.
 
She did it because she couldn't look the families of the dead in the eye if she continued to fly that flag

The person who pulled down that flag was Dylann Roof
LOL this the first time I have seen an actual moron claim the flag did the killing. LMAO..wow or it was a reason for it..LOL....wow.

The killer celebrated the flag as supporting his views
The Virginia Army battle flag doesn't represent murdering 9 people. Period. By that standard we need to ban all Gold's Gym shirts and close all Gold's Gyms.
Afraid it does

Dylann Roofs use of the flag was more than a coincidence. It has been used as a symbol of black oppression for 150 years.
Only to weak minded fools. Simple fact is blacks aren't a good fit for civilized society. 75 years of affirmative action,forced integration into white schools,quotas,favors etc and STILL the vast majority live in government housing slums living off welfare leaching off the workers of this country.

An affirmation of why we no longer need that flag
thanks for posting
 
LOL this the first time I have seen an actual moron claim the flag did the killing. LMAO..wow or it was a reason for it..LOL....wow.

The killer celebrated the flag as supporting his views
The Virginia Army battle flag doesn't represent murdering 9 people. Period. By that standard we need to ban all Gold's Gym shirts and close all Gold's Gyms.
Afraid it does

Dylann Roofs use of the flag was more than a coincidence. It has been used as a symbol of black oppression for 150 years.
Only to weak minded fools. Simple fact is blacks aren't a good fit for civilized society. 75 years of affirmative action,forced integration into white schools,quotas,favors etc and STILL the vast majority live in government housing slums living off welfare leaching off the workers of this country.

An affirmation of why we no longer need that flag
thanks for posting
Yep because that flag made me believe in facts like that. Sure did! Moron.
 
She did it because she couldn't look the families of the dead in the eye if she continued to fly that flag

The person who pulled down that flag was Dylann Roof
LOL this the first time I have seen an actual moron claim the flag did the killing. LMAO..wow or it was a reason for it..LOL....wow.

The killer celebrated the flag as supporting his views
The Virginia Army battle flag doesn't represent murdering 9 people. Period. By that standard we need to ban all Gold's Gym shirts and close all Gold's Gyms.
Afraid it does

Dylann Roofs use of the flag was more than a coincidence. It has been used as a symbol of black oppression for 150 years.
Only to weak minded fools. Simple fact is blacks aren't a good fit for civilized society. 75 years of affirmative action,forced integration into white schools,quotas,favors etc and STILL the vast majority live in government housing slums living off welfare leaching off the workers of this country.



Racist cowards aren't a good fit for civilized society.
 
She did it because she couldn't look the families of the dead in the eye if she continued to fly that flag

The person who pulled down that flag was Dylann Roof
LOL this the first time I have seen an actual moron claim the flag did the killing. LMAO..wow or it was a reason for it..LOL....wow.

The killer celebrated the flag as supporting his views
The Virginia Army battle flag doesn't represent murdering 9 people. Period. By that standard we need to ban all Gold's Gym shirts and close all Gold's Gyms.
Afraid it does

Dylann Roofs use of the flag was more than a coincidence. It has been used as a symbol of black oppression for 150 years.
Only to weak minded fools. Simple fact is blacks aren't a good fit for civilized society. 75 years of affirmative action,forced integration into white schools,quotas,favors etc and STILL the vast majority live in government housing slums living off welfare leaching off the workers of this country.
I think blacks could be a very good fit into a civilized society if first they stop being black and stop being treated as black. Encourage assimilation and accept that not everyone is fitted to become a doctor/lawyer. But there is too much money and political power in keeping the segregation alive.
 

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