Boom!!!! Judge in Manafort case says Mueller only wants to hurt Trump

Damn, dude. I've posted a link on this like three freaking times now.
Read it!

Rosenstein decides the scope. Not the judge.
Rosenstein gave Mueller the aurhority to investigate and indict Manafort on his Ukraine dealings. That is what was in question in the motion filed by the defense.

This blows that up.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

"Every key step in this case — including the investigative path and the Indictment itself — has been authorized by the Acting Attorney General through ongoing consultation," Mueller's team wrote in a brief opposing Manafort's bid to throw out the D.C. case.

The new disclosures about the Justice Department's internal handling of the Manafort investigation came in response to a motion Manafort's lawyers filed last month in U.S. District Court in Washington asking to have the criminal charges pending against him there thrown out on the grounds that Mueller's appointment was defective and that he exceeded his authority in going after Manafort."
And again..........there are 3 Branches of Gov't...........The DOJ is in the Executive Dept............Not the Judiciary...........

The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

The Judge Challenged that...........because he could see the abuse of power with the Special Council and chastised them for it.

In regards to the Russia Collusion.......YOU HAVE NOTHING. But it is clear that Mueller is trying to crucify Manafort to find anything on Trump. Which is what the Judge said.

In regards to this case........drag Manafort out into the street and have the MSM and FBI beat him to death. because this is a political LINCHING AND NOT A CRIMINAL CASE FOR JUSTICE.

The Judge SAW THAT...........We see it.............and SO DO THE PEOPLE.


The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

Bullshit.

The scope is the scope the AG decides it will be. Period.
The judge has no authority in that regard at all.

By definition, if the scope is set by the AG, then it is not "unfettered power" but clearly limited to the scope set by the AG.

You can spin all you like, but Rosenstein has said clearly that Manafort's dealings with Ukraine were within the scope since the day Mueller was appointed.
Well it looks like the judge will say differently. Eh? Need a hug?

The judge can say what he likes but that changes nothing.
You still have a problem with who's courtroom it belongs to..............It's not Rosenstein..........

You still have a problem with the 3 branches of Gov't........

Hint..........DOJ is the executive branch.............Not the Judicial Branch..........shhhhh

You keep saying that but never explain yourself.

You do realize the executive,(DOJ), is responsible for investigations. Not the judicial. Right?

The judge's role is to rule on the motion filed by the defense. Nothing more.
 
UPDATE 3-U.S. judge questions special counsel's powers in Manafort case - CompuServe Politics

REDACTED MEMO

Ellis complained the bulk of that August memo he received was highly redacted. He told Mueller's office to take two weeks to consult with U.S. intelligence agencies to see if they would sign off so that he can personally review a sealed, unredacted version of the memo.

Dreeben told him the redacted portions did not pertain to the Manafort case.

"I'll be the judge," Ellis said.


Ellis asked why a run-of-the-mill bank fraud case with no "reference to any Russian individual or Russian bank" could not be handed over to the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of Virginia.

As an example, he pointed to the FBI probe into Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen and said the special counsel had turned that matter over to prosecutors in Manhattan.
 
How can he see the connection on cold cases over a decade old....................
ahem.... did you read the transcript of the hearing?

it was not a cold case, the FBI was already investigating it....it got moved over to Mueller when the special counsel was appointed.
Over a decade after the fact........yeah they dug it up...........

:dig:
i don't know the details of when the Manafort investigation began, it could have been before the investigation in to the Russian election interference? Did they say somewhere, when the FBI began their investigation on him??
 
Tax evasion charges from 10 years ago are dealings with Ukraine.............

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and dealings with the Ukraine was dealings with Russia....

And following the money of those dealings in the Ukraine and with the Russian government's support, is following the money in to the USA and in to Manafort's accounts and purchases of homes all over the place, in the USA, by fraudulent means....

Worse that can happen if the judge does not see the connection, is it is handed over to another state justice department to prosecute Manafort.

After reading the entire transcript, I am not so certain which way the Judge will rule....
How can he see the connection on cold cases over a decade old....................The issue was collusion in an election 2016.....Not in a time when Bush was in office..........Has nothing to do with Trump Collusion or Obstruction.............

Those were cases that he basically said should have been in a different court and not his.
How can he see the connection on cold cases over a decade old.......

Because the prosecution presents their case, dope.
Perhaps they could present their case in a lesser court as the Judge Stated...............

This Special Council is about Collusion.....

Where is it....................

The special counsel is about whatever the AG determines it to be about.
Within reason and what is LEGAL.................they were just questioned about it by a Federal Judge.........just as they were questioned about Jurisdiction.

Again.........for the I don't know how many times..........the AG doesn't rule the courts.
 
How can he see the connection on cold cases over a decade old....................
ahem.... did you read the transcript of the hearing?

it was not a cold case, the FBI was already investigating it....it got moved over to Mueller when the special counsel was appointed.
Over a decade after the fact........yeah they dug it up...........

:dig:
i don't know the details of when the Manafort investigation began, it could have been before the investigation in to the Russian election interference? Did they say somewhere, when the FBI began their investigation on him??
Couple of articles said a few years back from the start of...........not sure the real dates.........but the Judge asked why in his court room......
 
UPDATE 3-U.S. judge questions special counsel's powers in Manafort case - CompuServe Politics

REDACTED MEMO

Ellis complained the bulk of that August memo he received was highly redacted. He told Mueller's office to take two weeks to consult with U.S. intelligence agencies to see if they would sign off so that he can personally review a sealed, unredacted version of the memo.

Dreeben told him the redacted portions did not pertain to the Manafort case.

"I'll be the judge," Ellis said.


Ellis asked why a run-of-the-mill bank fraud case with no "reference to any Russian individual or Russian bank" could not be handed over to the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of Virginia.

As an example, he pointed to the FBI probe into Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen and said the special counsel had turned that matter over to prosecutors in Manhattan.
and their answer back was that this WAS INVOLVED with the Russian case and that they would have easily just handed it over to a state court, like they did with Cohen....if the Russians were not involved.
 
Judges are great as long as 9th circuit loonies creating their own "law"
Any other judge who follows law is generally a no go
 
The judge could certainly ask those questions, eagle, but he cannot tell Rosenstein or Mueller how to run the investigation or prosecute the case. He can rule on motions.
 
You really love Rod Rosenstein, right Jake???

WHY???

A: because he is 100% loyal to the cause of ZIONISM
 
The judge could certainly ask those questions, eagle, but he cannot tell Rosenstein or Mueller how to run the investigation or prosecute the case. He can rule on motions.
How many times Fakey..............He isn't telling them how to investigation......he's interpreting the law........as presented to him..........and saw exactly what was going down.............

He will issue a final ruling soon and we'll see the court's decision.
 
Damn, dude. I've posted a link on this like three freaking times now.
Read it!

Rosenstein decides the scope. Not the judge.
Rosenstein gave Mueller the aurhority to investigate and indict Manafort on his Ukraine dealings. That is what was in question in the motion filed by the defense.

This blows that up.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

"Every key step in this case — including the investigative path and the Indictment itself — has been authorized by the Acting Attorney General through ongoing consultation," Mueller's team wrote in a brief opposing Manafort's bid to throw out the D.C. case.

The new disclosures about the Justice Department's internal handling of the Manafort investigation came in response to a motion Manafort's lawyers filed last month in U.S. District Court in Washington asking to have the criminal charges pending against him there thrown out on the grounds that Mueller's appointment was defective and that he exceeded his authority in going after Manafort."
And again..........there are 3 Branches of Gov't...........The DOJ is in the Executive Dept............Not the Judiciary...........

The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

The Judge Challenged that...........because he could see the abuse of power with the Special Council and chastised them for it.

In regards to the Russia Collusion.......YOU HAVE NOTHING. But it is clear that Mueller is trying to crucify Manafort to find anything on Trump. Which is what the Judge said.

In regards to this case........drag Manafort out into the street and have the MSM and FBI beat him to death. because this is a political LINCHING AND NOT A CRIMINAL CASE FOR JUSTICE.

The Judge SAW THAT...........We see it.............and SO DO THE PEOPLE.


The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

Bullshit.

The scope is the scope the AG decides it will be. Period.
The judge has no authority in that regard at all.

By definition, if the scope is set by the AG, then it is not "unfettered power" but clearly limited to the scope set by the AG.

You can spin all you like, but Rosenstein has said clearly that Manafort's dealings with Ukraine were within the scope since the day Mueller was appointed.
Tax evasion charges from 10 years ago are dealings with Ukraine.............

:abgg2q.jpg:

Where did the money come from, dope?
Yeah. they knew 10 years early to safe money for a rainy day when they supposedly colluded with Russia.....

:abgg2q.jpg:
The scope is not limited to your ficticious
"collusion", dope.
 
And again..........there are 3 Branches of Gov't...........The DOJ is in the Executive Dept............Not the Judiciary...........

The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

The Judge Challenged that...........because he could see the abuse of power with the Special Council and chastised them for it.

In regards to the Russia Collusion.......YOU HAVE NOTHING. But it is clear that Mueller is trying to crucify Manafort to find anything on Trump. Which is what the Judge said.

In regards to this case........drag Manafort out into the street and have the MSM and FBI beat him to death. because this is a political LINCHING AND NOT A CRIMINAL CASE FOR JUSTICE.

The Judge SAW THAT...........We see it.............and SO DO THE PEOPLE.


The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

Bullshit.

The scope is the scope the AG decides it will be. Period.
The judge has no authority in that regard at all.

By definition, if the scope is set by the AG, then it is not "unfettered power" but clearly limited to the scope set by the AG.

You can spin all you like, but Rosenstein has said clearly that Manafort's dealings with Ukraine were within the scope since the day Mueller was appointed.
Tax evasion charges from 10 years ago are dealings with Ukraine.............

:abgg2q.jpg:

Where did the money come from, dope?
Yeah. they knew 10 years early to safe money for a rainy day when they supposedly colluded with Russia.....

:abgg2q.jpg:
The scope is not limited to your ficticious
"collusion", dope.
As the Judge said...........
“I’m sure you’re sensitive to the fact that the American people feel pretty strongly about no one having unfettered power,” Ellis said.
 
Damn, dude. I've posted a link on this like three freaking times now.
Read it!

Rosenstein decides the scope. Not the judge.
Rosenstein gave Mueller the aurhority to investigate and indict Manafort on his Ukraine dealings. That is what was in question in the motion filed by the defense.

This blows that up.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

"Every key step in this case — including the investigative path and the Indictment itself — has been authorized by the Acting Attorney General through ongoing consultation," Mueller's team wrote in a brief opposing Manafort's bid to throw out the D.C. case.

The new disclosures about the Justice Department's internal handling of the Manafort investigation came in response to a motion Manafort's lawyers filed last month in U.S. District Court in Washington asking to have the criminal charges pending against him there thrown out on the grounds that Mueller's appointment was defective and that he exceeded his authority in going after Manafort."
And again..........there are 3 Branches of Gov't...........The DOJ is in the Executive Dept............Not the Judiciary...........

The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

The Judge Challenged that...........because he could see the abuse of power with the Special Council and chastised them for it.

In regards to the Russia Collusion.......YOU HAVE NOTHING. But it is clear that Mueller is trying to crucify Manafort to find anything on Trump. Which is what the Judge said.

In regards to this case........drag Manafort out into the street and have the MSM and FBI beat him to death. because this is a political LINCHING AND NOT A CRIMINAL CASE FOR JUSTICE.

The Judge SAW THAT...........We see it.............and SO DO THE PEOPLE.


The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

Bullshit.

The scope is the scope the AG decides it will be. Period.
The judge has no authority in that regard at all.

By definition, if the scope is set by the AG, then it is not "unfettered power" but clearly limited to the scope set by the AG.

You can spin all you like, but Rosenstein has said clearly that Manafort's dealings with Ukraine were within the scope since the day Mueller was appointed.
Well it looks like the judge will say differently. Eh? Need a hug?

The judge can say what he likes but that changes nothing.






Let me ask you to do that next time you happen to be in Court. Please make sure your telling the judge he doesn't matter is televised as well.

What matters is the motion before him. Not his opinion.
 
The memo remit allows Mueller to go where the evidence goes.

You need to read the whole transcript of the exchange between the Judge and SC lawyer. Ellis was smoking the shit out of them. That memo was produced only after the raid. You know like "OMG I need a memo for the raid Ron!!!!!!!".

By the way that raid was truly Stasi. That's police state shit right there Jake.

Bullshit. It says clearly that Mueller had this authority since his appointment.
His authority allows him to go anywhere he pleases.................which is what he's doing.......

Hey pal................the Judge called their asses out on it............which part of decade old accusations apply to Russia ..............hmmmmm

NONE.

What part of a land deal does a blowjob apply to?
moving-goalposts-gif-1.gif

Nothing has moved. The point is, the investigation follows the evidence. Evidence of a crime will not be ignored simply because it's not related to the cause of the investigation.
 
How can he see the connection on cold cases over a decade old....................
ahem.... did you read the transcript of the hearing?

it was not a cold case, the FBI was already investigating it....it got moved over to Mueller when the special counsel was appointed.
Over a decade after the fact........yeah they dug it up...........

:dig:
i don't know the details of when the Manafort investigation began, it could have been before the investigation in to the Russian election interference? Did they say somewhere, when the FBI began their investigation on him??
Couple of articles said a few years back from the start of...........not sure the real dates.........but the Judge asked why in his court room......
yes, the judge did ask.... and although from reading the transcript, the judge seemed like he was grandstanding from the get go....looking for those 15 minutes of fame....

but truly, I see no problem with the judge questioning that aspect.... as long as his mind was not already made up, before the hearing on it.
 
He made the statement of why these cases aren't in the lower courts and not his............He also questioned the authority under the special council. Just as he questioned cases over a decade old that have no bearing on their scope of the special council........
He made the statement of why these cases aren't in the lower courts and not his............He also questioned the authority under the special council. Just as he questioned cases over a decade old that have no bearing on their scope of the special council........

Damn, dude. I've posted a link on this like three freaking times now.
Read it!

Rosenstein decides the scope. Not the judge.
Rosenstein gave Mueller the aurhority to investigate and indict Manafort on his Ukraine dealings. That is what was in question in the motion filed by the defense.

This blows that up.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

"Every key step in this case — including the investigative path and the Indictment itself — has been authorized by the Acting Attorney General through ongoing consultation," Mueller's team wrote in a brief opposing Manafort's bid to throw out the D.C. case.

The new disclosures about the Justice Department's internal handling of the Manafort investigation came in response to a motion Manafort's lawyers filed last month in U.S. District Court in Washington asking to have the criminal charges pending against him there thrown out on the grounds that Mueller's appointment was defective and that he exceeded his authority in going after Manafort."
And again..........there are 3 Branches of Gov't...........The DOJ is in the Executive Dept............Not the Judiciary...........

The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

The Judge Challenged that...........because he could see the abuse of power with the Special Council and chastised them for it.

In regards to the Russia Collusion.......YOU HAVE NOTHING. But it is clear that Mueller is trying to crucify Manafort to find anything on Trump. Which is what the Judge said.

In regards to this case........drag Manafort out into the street and have the MSM and FBI beat him to death. because this is a political LINCHING AND NOT A CRIMINAL CASE FOR JUSTICE.

The Judge SAW THAT...........We see it.............and SO DO THE PEOPLE.


The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

Bullshit.

The scope is the scope the AG decides it will be. Period.
The judge has no authority in that regard at all.

By definition, if the scope is set by the AG, then it is not "unfettered power" but clearly limited to the scope set by the AG.

You can spin all you like, but Rosenstein has said clearly that Manafort's dealings with Ukraine were within the scope since the day Mueller was appointed.
The scope is controlled by federal law NOT THE DOJ.. Rosenetine is only allowed to tighten the scope or limit it to keep political witch hunts from happening.

IN this case Mueller over-reached went out side of his authority and Rosenstine, in an effort to keep the whole charade alive, expanded it to allow the witch hunt.

The point being, Mueller and his team committed prosecutorial over-reach which violated federal law. And the judge recognized it.

The scope is controlled by federal law NOT THE DOJ.. Rosenetine is only allowed to tighten the scope or limit it to keep political witch hunts from happening.

Bullshit.

The special counsel is appointed by and overseen by the AG. Including the scope of the investigation. Mueller cannot act on anything without the approval of the AG.
Rosenstein signed off on the Manafort raid, charges and indictments. That would not have happened if Mueller was acting without approval.

Explain what federal law you are speaking of.
28 CFR 600.1 - Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.
28 U.S. Code Chapter 40 - INDEPENDENT COUNSEL
I suggest you read up..
 
The memo remit allows Mueller to go where the evidence goes.

You need to read the whole transcript of the exchange between the Judge and SC lawyer. Ellis was smoking the shit out of them. That memo was produced only after the raid. You know like "OMG I need a memo for the raid Ron!!!!!!!".

By the way that raid was truly Stasi. That's police state shit right there Jake.


Bullshit. It says clearly that Mueller had this authority since his appointment.

Rosenstein wrote that memo in August.

:lol:
Damn, dude. I've posted a link on this like three freaking times now.
Read it!

Rosenstein decides the scope. Not the judge.
Rosenstein gave Mueller the aurhority to investigate and indict Manafort on his Ukraine dealings. That is what was in question in the motion filed by the defense.

This blows that up.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

"Every key step in this case — including the investigative path and the Indictment itself — has been authorized by the Acting Attorney General through ongoing consultation," Mueller's team wrote in a brief opposing Manafort's bid to throw out the D.C. case.

The new disclosures about the Justice Department's internal handling of the Manafort investigation came in response to a motion Manafort's lawyers filed last month in U.S. District Court in Washington asking to have the criminal charges pending against him there thrown out on the grounds that Mueller's appointment was defective and that he exceeded his authority in going after Manafort."
And again..........there are 3 Branches of Gov't...........The DOJ is in the Executive Dept............Not the Judiciary...........

The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

The Judge Challenged that...........because he could see the abuse of power with the Special Council and chastised them for it.

In regards to the Russia Collusion.......YOU HAVE NOTHING. But it is clear that Mueller is trying to crucify Manafort to find anything on Trump. Which is what the Judge said.

In regards to this case........drag Manafort out into the street and have the MSM and FBI beat him to death. because this is a political LINCHING AND NOT A CRIMINAL CASE FOR JUSTICE.

The Judge SAW THAT...........We see it.............and SO DO THE PEOPLE.


The Judiciary decides the legality of Court matters including whether or not the Scope by Rosenstein gives unfettered power to the Special Council. A special council that went back over 10 years to dig up a charge against Manafort. Nothing to do with Russia Investigation.

Bullshit.

The scope is the scope the AG decides it will be. Period.
The judge has no authority in that regard at all.

By definition, if the scope is set by the AG, then it is not "unfettered power" but clearly limited to the scope set by the AG.

You can spin all you like, but Rosenstein has said clearly that Manafort's dealings with Ukraine were within the scope since the day Mueller was appointed.
The scope is controlled by federal law NOT THE DOJ.. Rosenetine is only allowed to tighten the scope or limit it to keep political witch hunts from happening.

IN this case Mueller over-reached went out side of his authority and Rosenstine, in an effort to keep the whole charade alive, expanded it to allow the witch hunt.

The point being, Mueller and his team committed prosecutorial over-reach which violated federal law. And the judge recognized it.

The scope is controlled by federal law NOT THE DOJ.. Rosenetine is only allowed to tighten the scope or limit it to keep political witch hunts from happening.

Bullshit.

The special counsel is appointed by and overseen by the AG. Including the scope of the investigation. Mueller cannot act on anything wothout the approval of the AG.
Rosenstein signed off on the Manafort raid, charges and indictments. That would not have happened if Mueller was acting without approval.

Explain what federal law you are speaking of.

Why did Rosentstein feel compelled to issue the memo in August after the raid if the original in May covered the Manafort investigation.

Another sticking point is why did the DOJ who already was investigating Manafort turn over their criminal investigation to Mueller? That's the big question the Judge wants answered.
Who knows?
I would assume the August memo was meant to clarify the AG's position on the subject at the outset of the actions against Manafort in order to present a clear case and timeline. No doubt the raid produced quite a lot of evidence.

Where you dopes go off the rails is when you assume the raid was conducted for reasons other than collusion.
 
Bullshit.

The scope is the scope the AG decides it will be. Period.
The judge has no authority in that regard at all.

By definition, if the scope is set by the AG, then it is not "unfettered power" but clearly limited to the scope set by the AG.

You can spin all you like, but Rosenstein has said clearly that Manafort's dealings with Ukraine were within the scope since the day Mueller was appointed.
Tax evasion charges from 10 years ago are dealings with Ukraine.............

:abgg2q.jpg:

Where did the money come from, dope?
Yeah. they knew 10 years early to safe money for a rainy day when they supposedly colluded with Russia.....

:abgg2q.jpg:
The scope is not limited to your ficticious
"collusion", dope.
As the Judge said...........
“I’m sure you’re sensitive to the fact that the American people feel pretty strongly about no one having unfettered power,” Ellis said.

What unfettered power?

Evidence of a crime is evidence of a crime.
 
UPDATE 3-U.S. judge questions special counsel's powers in Manafort case - CompuServe Politics

REDACTED MEMO

Ellis complained the bulk of that August memo he received was highly redacted. He told Mueller's office to take two weeks to consult with U.S. intelligence agencies to see if they would sign off so that he can personally review a sealed, unredacted version of the memo.

Dreeben told him the redacted portions did not pertain to the Manafort case.

"I'll be the judge," Ellis said.


Ellis asked why a run-of-the-mill bank fraud case with no "reference to any Russian individual or Russian bank" could not be handed over to the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of Virginia.

As an example, he pointed to the FBI probe into Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen and said the special counsel had turned that matter over to prosecutors in Manhattan.

Under 28 CFR there can not be two investigations in process if the person of interest is being investigated by the Special Counsel. All investigations by The DOJ and FBI must cease according to the law. As long as Mueller lists them as persons of interest NO ONE ELSE CAN INVESTIGATE THEM.

I don't see how Cohen can be investigated by the Eastern district while he is listed in Muellers case... This is a serous breach in the law. Cohen is listed in two investigations when the law clearly states this is unlawful.

Cohen is getting twisted by Mueller and it violates the law..
 

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