Boy Drugged By Lesbian "Parents" To Be A Girl

[Silhouette]

And again- who is amputating these children's body parts Silihouette?

You keep making this claim- which children do you imagine are having sex organs amputated?

Drugged in preparation for eventual amptuation. A child's mind isn't fully their own under these conditions, even if they're 18 you diseased-brain advocate.

 

[Coyote]

Thread reopened after fumigation. Please discuss the topic - not each other.

 

[Silhouette]

So, how about it Syriusly? Do you approve of the muslim practice of genital mutilation of girls? Yes or no? Notice how I keep asking you that question?

 

[Silhouette]

Syriusly? Do you approve of the muslim practice of genital mutilation of girls? No answer? Is that a "no" then? So how come you would approve of the gential mutilation of kids in the US by "doctors" practicing here...with state funding no less? Isn't that a conflict of principles?

 

[aris2chat]

The lesbian parents of an 11-year-old boy who is undergoing the process of becoming a girl last night defended the decision, claiming it was better for a child to have a sex change when young....Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment in Berkeley, California to stop him going through puberty as a boy...At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, psychiatrists diagnosed Thomas with gender identity disorder. By the age of eight, he began transitioning. ...The hormone-suppressant, implanted in his upper left arm, will postpone the 11-year-old developing broad shoulders, deep voice and facial hair. The California boy 11 who is undergoing hormone blocking treatment Daily Mail Online

Just after his first 6 formative years, this boy raised by two lesbians suddenly wants to femalize himself by genital mutilation. "Gender identity disorder" could also be called "my gender doesn't matter disorder"

The "father" lesbian on the right looks on sternly while the "mother" lesbian opines for the camera. The boy in the middle had a female hormone implant stuck in his arm on order from his lesbian "parents".. His body language perhaps the most telling of all. Notice his hands tightly clamped over his groin. At his age, he knows where this is all leading...(see pictures in my next post)..

No LGBTQ member has spoken out publicly or even privately to my knowledge to denounce this disgusting and abusive process.

It's helpful to understand how this could be happening on American soil to an American citizen/child if one understands what has happened to the final authoritative body that has given its stamp of approval to this: the APA or "American Psychological Association". Their quest for science and hard data has been tossed away in preference of "audited-group-think". It's called "CQR" and you can read more about how a cult works here: Federal Gay-Activist Judges Aren t to Blame They Rely on Science .. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

The issue named by the APA's accredited therapists is "gender identity disorder". I offer that because of CQR at the American Psychological Association, not enough research has been done, or it has been done and its results are "not acceptable" to the audit-group-think mandate that has replaced data and numbers there, the child may have been misdiagnosed.

It is conceivable that in a home where two women have rejected men (except one that dresses like, talks like and acts like a man...visit the link above for more pictures) so utterly as to marry each other, (well, not legally according to Judge Sutton), that any boy raised in that manifest-rejection environment might deduce with his simple, formative, childlike mind that "boy/male=rejected"..

Aside: For more on the 6th circuit court of federal appeal/Judge Sutton's support for states to reject gay marriage, see this link: 6th Circuit Federal Appeals Court Gives Thumb s Up to States Choice on Gay Marriage Page 12 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Now, I've not seen a survey done by the APA where so-called transgendered children were asked in a neutral/non-suggestive format where they came up with the idea that they didn't want to be their gender anymore. And I doubt any of us with the current "audit-group-think" (CQR) structure at the APA (de facto, cult) will see such a survey for as long as the Agenda runs that outfit and yanks its chain (audited...). So I'm suggesting to people's common sense, and more particularly, those who have known lesbians and have heard their near nonstop innuendo or outright beratement and rejection of males in their lives, that it is remotely possible that "Tammy" may have been a creation of their manifest rejection of males in general. The child is presenting with sypmtoms of the "parents" mental issues..

I heartily encourage anyone reading this to visit the link and others on this story, read the articles in depth, look at the photos and meditate within themselves as to ALL possibilities of what could be going on with this boy.....and not just the APA-audit-approved hasty "conclusion":

For Syriusly, who has trouble keeping the root issues in focus:

Well of course child abuse occurs in more than just gay homes. It's just that with the gay community, they get behind this and support it. In the hetero community the parents would have to leave town and hide out in the woods to avoid a crowd at their door with torches at night.

The issue here is institutionalized-child-abuse vs discouraged child abuse... It's a difference of CULTural values... the hetero community does not identify itself as "LGBT". The "T" is for "Transgender"....

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty.

The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given.

The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

 

[Rustic]

Please post links to any gay or lesbian outfit or the APA or AMA denouncing this practice to the boy Thomas Lobel.

So...not denouncing something = supporting it now?

Shut up pig. if this were two parents getting treatment to stop their kid from being gay you'd be all over conservatives who weren't "denouncing" it.

Ah...make me, Mal.

I don't here you denouncing the murder of all those student teachers down in Mexico....stop supporting murder.

I denounce the murder of student teachers in Mexico

AH, integrity something you would have learned had you actually served in the Navy

Sure....now you do. Haven't heard you denounce the sexual abuse of 1 out of 4 girls in America before they reach 18 either...stop supporting the sexual abuse of girls.

Deflection

 

[Silhouette]

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty...The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given...The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

OK Dr. aris2chat...where did you get your degree again? Johns Hopkins and the ACP says that giving a child hormones is carcinogenic. Coercing him to amputate his organs by drugging him with hormones (a child isn't old enough to make any advanced decision on his health which results in powerful artifical hormones which alter the way the mind thinks or for mutilating permanent surgery) is child abuse.

Dr. aris2chat, let me guess, your specialty isn't in interpreting body language? Because if it was, that picture would be SCREAMING child abuse at you..

 

[Rustic]

The lesbian parents of an 11-year-old boy who is undergoing the process of becoming a girl last night defended the decision, claiming it was better for a child to have a sex change when young....Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment in Berkeley, California to stop him going through puberty as a boy...At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, psychiatrists diagnosed Thomas with gender identity disorder. By the age of eight, he began transitioning. ...The hormone-suppressant, implanted in his upper left arm, will postpone the 11-year-old developing broad shoulders, deep voice and facial hair. The California boy 11 who is undergoing hormone blocking treatment Daily Mail Online

Just after his first 6 formative years, this boy raised by two lesbians suddenly wants to femalize himself by genital mutilation. "Gender identity disorder" could also be called "my gender doesn't matter disorder"

The "father" lesbian on the right looks on sternly while the "mother" lesbian opines for the camera. The boy in the middle had a female hormone implant stuck in his arm on order from his lesbian "parents".. His body language perhaps the most telling of all. Notice his hands tightly clamped over his groin. At his age, he knows where this is all leading...(see pictures in my next post)..

No LGBTQ member has spoken out publicly or even privately to my knowledge to denounce this disgusting and abusive process.

It's helpful to understand how this could be happening on American soil to an American citizen/child if one understands what has happened to the final authoritative body that has given its stamp of approval to this: the APA or "American Psychological Association". Their quest for science and hard data has been tossed away in preference of "audited-group-think". It's called "CQR" and you can read more about how a cult works here: Federal Gay-Activist Judges Aren t to Blame They Rely on Science .. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

The issue named by the APA's accredited therapists is "gender identity disorder". I offer that because of CQR at the American Psychological Association, not enough research has been done, or it has been done and its results are "not acceptable" to the audit-group-think mandate that has replaced data and numbers there, the child may have been misdiagnosed.

It is conceivable that in a home where two women have rejected men (except one that dresses like, talks like and acts like a man...visit the link above for more pictures) so utterly as to marry each other, (well, not legally according to Judge Sutton), that any boy raised in that manifest-rejection environment might deduce with his simple, formative, childlike mind that "boy/male=rejected"..

Aside: For more on the 6th circuit court of federal appeal/Judge Sutton's support for states to reject gay marriage, see this link: 6th Circuit Federal Appeals Court Gives Thumb s Up to States Choice on Gay Marriage Page 12 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Now, I've not seen a survey done by the APA where so-called transgendered children were asked in a neutral/non-suggestive format where they came up with the idea that they didn't want to be their gender anymore. And I doubt any of us with the current "audit-group-think" (CQR) structure at the APA (de facto, cult) will see such a survey for as long as the Agenda runs that outfit and yanks its chain (audited...). So I'm suggesting to people's common sense, and more particularly, those who have known lesbians and have heard their near nonstop innuendo or outright beratement and rejection of males in their lives, that it is remotely possible that "Tammy" may have been a creation of their manifest rejection of males in general. The child is presenting with sypmtoms of the "parents" mental issues..

I heartily encourage anyone reading this to visit the link and others on this story, read the articles in depth, look at the photos and meditate within themselves as to ALL possibilities of what could be going on with this boy.....and not just the APA-audit-approved hasty "conclusion":

For Syriusly, who has trouble keeping the root issues in focus:

Well of course child abuse occurs in more than just gay homes. It's just that with the gay community, they get behind this and support it. In the hetero community the parents would have to leave town and hide out in the woods to avoid a crowd at their door with torches at night.

The issue here is institutionalized-child-abuse vs discouraged child abuse... It's a difference of CULTural values... the hetero community does not identify itself as "LGBT". The "T" is for "Transgender"....

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty.

The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given.

The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

 

[Faun]

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty...The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given...The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

OK Dr. aris2chat...where did you get your degree again? Johns Hopkins and the ACP says that giving a child hormones is carcinogenic. Coercing him to amputate his organs by drugging him with hormones (a child isn't old enough to make any advanced decision on his health which results in powerful artifical hormones which alter the way the mind thinks or for mutilating permanent surgery) is child abuse.

Dr. aris2chat, let me guess, your specialty isn't in interpreting body language? Because if it was, that picture would be SCREAMING child abuse at you..

Since we're evaluating pictures to determine child abuse.... seems there is no child abuse as she looks perfectly happy...

 

[Rustic]

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty...The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given...The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

OK Dr. aris2chat...where did you get your degree again? Johns Hopkins and the ACP says that giving a child hormones is carcinogenic. Coercing him to amputate his organs by drugging him with hormones (a child isn't old enough to make any advanced decision on his health which results in powerful artifical hormones which alter the way the mind thinks or for mutilating permanent surgery) is child abuse.

Dr. aris2chat, let me guess, your specialty isn't in interpreting body language? Because if it was, that picture would be SCREAMING child abuse at you..

Since we're evaluating pictures to determine child abuse.... seems there is no child abuse as she looks perfectly happy...

Being gay is a choice, a delusional one.

 

[aris2chat]

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty...The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given...The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

OK Dr. aris2chat...where did you get your degree again? Johns Hopkins and the ACP says that giving a child hormones is carcinogenic. Coercing him to amputate his organs by drugging him with hormones (a child isn't old enough to make any advanced decision on his health which results in powerful artifical hormones which alter the way the mind thinks or for mutilating permanent surgery) is child abuse.

Dr. aris2chat, let me guess, your specialty isn't in interpreting body language? Because if it was, that picture would be SCREAMING child abuse at you..

She is blocking puberty. GRS can not be till 16.

>>Guidelines from the Endocrine Society endorse transgender hormone treatment but say it should not be given before puberty begins. At that point, the guidelines recommend puberty-blocking drugs until age 16, then lifelong sex-changing hormones with monitoring for potential health risks. Mental health professionals should be involved in the process, the guidelines say. The group's members are doctors who treat hormonal conditions.

In another Pediatrics report, a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.

The mother of the Los Angeles 8-year-old says he's eager to begin treatment.

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.<<

 

[Rustic]

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty...The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given...The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

OK Dr. aris2chat...where did you get your degree again? Johns Hopkins and the ACP says that giving a child hormones is carcinogenic. Coercing him to amputate his organs by drugging him with hormones (a child isn't old enough to make any advanced decision on his health which results in powerful artifical hormones which alter the way the mind thinks or for mutilating permanent surgery) is child abuse.

Dr. aris2chat, let me guess, your specialty isn't in interpreting body language? Because if it was, that picture would be SCREAMING child abuse at you..

She is blocking puberty. GRS can not be till 16.

>>Guidelines from the Endocrine Society endorse transgender hormone treatment but say it should not be given before puberty begins. At that point, the guidelines recommend puberty-blocking drugs until age 16, then lifelong sex-changing hormones with monitoring for potential health risks. Mental health professionals should be involved in the process, the guidelines say. The group's members are doctors who treat hormonal conditions.

In another Pediatrics report, a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.

The mother of the Los Angeles 8-year-old says he's eager to begin treatment.

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.<<

Sick control freaks

 

[aris2chat]

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty...The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given...The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

OK Dr. aris2chat...where did you get your degree again? Johns Hopkins and the ACP says that giving a child hormones is carcinogenic. Coercing him to amputate his organs by drugging him with hormones (a child isn't old enough to make any advanced decision on his health which results in powerful artifical hormones which alter the way the mind thinks or for mutilating permanent surgery) is child abuse.

Dr. aris2chat, let me guess, your specialty isn't in interpreting body language? Because if it was, that picture would be SCREAMING child abuse at you..

Since we're evaluating pictures to determine child abuse.... seems there is no child abuse as she looks perfectly happy...

Being gay is a choice, a delusional one.

Sorry but you are wrong.

Transsexual differences caught on brain scan | New Scientist
Transsexual differences caught on brain scantranssexual-diffe...
New Scientist
Jan 26, 2011 - Differences in the brain's white matter that clash with a person's genetic sex may hold the key to identifying transsexual people before puberty.

 

[aris2chat]

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty...The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given...The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

OK Dr. aris2chat...where did you get your degree again? Johns Hopkins and the ACP says that giving a child hormones is carcinogenic. Coercing him to amputate his organs by drugging him with hormones (a child isn't old enough to make any advanced decision on his health which results in powerful artifical hormones which alter the way the mind thinks or for mutilating permanent surgery) is child abuse.

Dr. aris2chat, let me guess, your specialty isn't in interpreting body language? Because if it was, that picture would be SCREAMING child abuse at you..

She is blocking puberty. GRS can not be till 16.

>>Guidelines from the Endocrine Society endorse transgender hormone treatment but say it should not be given before puberty begins. At that point, the guidelines recommend puberty-blocking drugs until age 16, then lifelong sex-changing hormones with monitoring for potential health risks. Mental health professionals should be involved in the process, the guidelines say. The group's members are doctors who treat hormonal conditions.

In another Pediatrics report, a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.

The mother of the Los Angeles 8-year-old says he's eager to begin treatment.

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.<<

Sick control freaks

It was her choice and obviously the doctor agreed.

 

[Silhouette]

It was her choice and obviously the doctor agreed.

I'm sorry, I don't refer to males as "she". HE didn't choose because children CANNOT legally choose such damaging courses of "medicine" for themselves, especially when experts have announced that such a course of medicine is carcinogenic, undue influence, and CHILD ABUSE: BREAKING: Johns Hopkins & American College of Pediatricians Formerly Denounce Sex-Change Procedures

Drugging a child with powerful, mind-altering hormones is not a situation conducive to active choice on the minor's behalf.

 

[Skylar]

It's not abuse, he wanted to not go through male puberty...The hormones have to be prescribed by a doctor and the boy ill have had to go through counseling before they will be given...The abuse would be male puberty when he wants the change because he is a girl inside.

OK Dr. aris2chat...where did you get your degree again? Johns Hopkins and the ACP says that giving a child hormones is carcinogenic.

Nope. John Hopkins says no such thing. You're lying your ass off. If your claims had merit, you wouldn't need to keep lying again and again.

You're citing the ACP.....which is a far right religious organization with about 60 members.....contradicted by the American Academy of Pediatrics with 62,000 members. And each and every of the 62,000 members of the AAP have degrees.

Coercing him to amputate his organs by drugging him with hormones (a child isn't old enough to make any advanced decision on his health which results in powerful artifical hormones which alter the way the mind thinks or for mutilating permanent surgery) is child abuse.

Who says she's being coerced? That would be you, pretending you know what you're talking about. But you don't have the slightest clue. You don't know the child, have never met her, have never been in the same room with her. You don't know the parents. You don't know her doctors. You don't know her psychiatrists.

Yet you insist that you know better than the child, her parents or her doctors what is happening. And they should all be ignored in exclusion of whatever you imagine.

Um, no. You're nobody.

 

[Skylar]

It was her choice and obviously the doctor agreed.

I'm sorry, I don't refer to males as "she". HE didn't choose because children CANNOT legally choose such damaging courses of "medicine" for themselves, especially when experts have announced that such a course of medicine is carcinogenic, undue influence, and CHILD ABUSE: BREAKING: Johns Hopkins & American College of Pediatricians Formerly Denounce Sex-Change Procedures

The 'experts' have found no such thing. You're citing the fringe right religious group the 'American College of Pediatricians'....which has about 60 members. The 62,000 members of the American Academy of Pediatrics contradicts them. And nothing you've claimed has been backed or even mentioned by John Hopkins.

Once again, you're lying to support your argument. If your claims had merit, you wouldn't have to lie.

And what you 'refer' to the child as is irrelevant. As you have no idea what you're talking about nor play any role in this child's life. You've never met her, met her parents, her doctors, or her psychiatrists. You know your imagination, where you pretend that you're a subject matter expert.

Back in reality....you're still nobody.

 

[aris2chat]

It was her choice and obviously the doctor agreed.

I'm sorry, I don't refer to males as "she". HE didn't choose because children CANNOT legally choose such damaging courses of "medicine" for themselves, especially when experts have announced that such a course of medicine is carcinogenic, undue influence, and CHILD ABUSE: BREAKING: Johns Hopkins & American College of Pediatricians Formerly Denounce Sex-Change Procedures

Drugging a child with powerful, mind-altering hormones is not a situation conducive to active choice on the minor's behalf.

one retired dr at JH..................

and every other dr?

 

[Skylar]

It was her choice and obviously the doctor agreed.

I'm sorry, I don't refer to males as "she". HE didn't choose because children CANNOT legally choose such damaging courses of "medicine" for themselves, especially when experts have announced that such a course of medicine is carcinogenic, undue influence, and CHILD ABUSE: BREAKING: Johns Hopkins & American College of Pediatricians Formerly Denounce Sex-Change Procedures

Drugging a child with powerful, mind-altering hormones is not a situation conducive to active choice on the minor's behalf.

one retired dr at JH..................

and every other dr?

A former employee of John Hopkins......who has been discredited by a legion of studies contradicting him. Including the authors of the two main studies he cites, insisting that he flagrantly misrepresented their research.

All of which Sil knows....but really hopes you don't.

 

[Rustic]