BREAKING: Amazon is kicking Parler off AWS, its web hosting service, which will take them offline until it finds a new host

[Coyote]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

 

[Coyote]

The Dems will advocate to not change 230 because they are in bed with big tech. The Dems love the censorship by the left because they are ideologically aligned.


If Big tech happened to lean right and were censoring left wing opinions, you bet your ass the Dems in Congress would be screaming from the mountain tops that 230 needs to be repealed.

They are already holding House hearings on it. Initiated by the Dems.

 

[Crepitus]

Complain as much as you want, it's still their front porch.

Okay. So Facebook can limit itself to grandchildren photo-posting, and Twitter to sports conversation.

Now: what about a site where people can actually say what they want to say? Are you up with the Big Three, Apple, Google, and Amazon, destroying Parler, and any other free speech site they can root out, like 4chan and reddit?

They aren't destroying or even limiting anyone's speech. They just aren't letting people use their platforms to spew hate, conspiracy theories, and insurgency.

These folks are still welcome to vomit their hate from their own front porches.

parler violated Amazon's Terms of Service.

parler agreed to follow those rules or be prevented from using the service.

parler violated the rules and their word to follow those rules so Amazon terminated the service. parler broke the contract they freely and legally signed.

So Amazon enforced their contract and terminated parler's accounts.

Amazon was completely within their rights and the law.

parler broke the contract and now is whining that they are suffering the consequences of breaking the contract.

No court of law in this nation will ever rule in favor of parler in this situation.

What a coincidence after years online, that they found a violation within 24 hours of Trump being kicked off Twitter. Right on the same day. Amazeballs.
Meanwhile Pornhub is caught putting out kiddie porn and rape videos and still get to stay on Google and Amazon.

I don't think google and Amazon are leasing server space to porn companies.

 

[Crepitus]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

They aren't booting people for saying "I wish they had". They are booting people for using the platform to plan the insurrection.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

Where I am I can use Verizon, Sprint, Xfinity, AT&T....

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

They aren't booting people for saying "I wish they had". They are booting people for using the platform to plan the insurrection.

LMaO....did they boot BLM?

 

[Crepitus]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

They aren't booting people for saying "I wish they had". They are booting people for using the platform to plan the insurrection.

LMaO....did they boot BLM?

I seriously doubt blm was on parler.

 

[Coyote]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

They aren't booting people for saying "I wish they had". They are booting people for using the platform to plan the insurrection.

LMaO....did they boot BLM?

BLM is not in and of itself a terrorist group or an organizer of violence so I doubt they would as an entire entity. That would be like banning all Trump supporters because of what happened at the capital wouldn't it? IMO.

 

[Coyote]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

Where I am I can use Verizon, Sprint, Xfinity, AT&T....

Lucky you! I have Frontier (I'm just talking about landlines) - for everything. Might be getting Prodigy. I do agree though, they aren't like Verizon. They really are in their own category and I think regulatory law regarding them is antiquated.

 

[MarathonMike]

Yep, the purge is real.

They told us to "build our own facebook/twitter" if we didn't' like their rules. So we did, now they changed the goalposts and said "build your own everything."

Next they'll prevent us from using the fiber-optic cables.

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Big tech isn't even trying to hide their bias. Why bother? This is what State Control over the people looks like. It sure doesn't look like America.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

They aren't booting people for saying "I wish they had". They are booting people for using the platform to plan the insurrection.

LMaO....did they boot BLM?

I seriously doubt blm was on parler.

They were on Twitter and Twitter didn’t shut them down but did call the Star of David a symbol of hate.

Star of David Deemed 'Hateful Imagery' By Twitter | Christians United for Israel

The Star of David has been deemed “hateful imagery” by Twitter, which is locking the accounts of users who display it in their profile pictures. The Campaign Against Antisemitism has […]

cufi.org

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

They aren't booting people for saying "I wish they had". They are booting people for using the platform to plan the insurrection.

LMaO....did they boot BLM?

BLM is not in and of itself a terrorist group or an organizer of violence so I doubt they would as an entire entity. That would be like banning all Trump supporters because of what happened at the capital wouldn't it? IMO.

Hence we should not ban anyone. Slippery slope. I would have shot every single goon who broke into the Capital. I would have shot every single good who set businesses on fire during the BLM riots.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

Where I am I can use Verizon, Sprint, Xfinity, AT&T....

Lucky you! I have Frontier (I'm just talking about landlines) - for everything. Might be getting Prodigy. I do agree though, they aren't like Verizon. They really are in their own category and I think regulatory law regarding them is antiquated.

We agree!

 

[Coyote]

Yep, the purge is real.

They told us to "build our own facebook/twitter" if we didn't' like their rules. So we did, now they changed the goalposts and said "build your own everything."

Next they'll prevent us from using the fiber-optic cables.

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Big tech isn't even trying to hide their bias. Why bother? This is what State Control over the people looks like. It sure doesn't look like America.

Bias against those plotting violent acts of insurrection?

 

[Crepitus]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

They aren't booting people for saying "I wish they had". They are booting people for using the platform to plan the insurrection.

LMaO....did they boot BLM?

I seriously doubt blm was on parler.

They were on Twitter and Twitter didn’t shut them down but did call the Star of David a symbol of hate.

Star of David Deemed 'Hateful Imagery' By Twitter | Christians United for Israel

The Star of David has been deemed “hateful imagery” by Twitter, which is locking the accounts of users who display it in their profile pictures. The Campaign Against Antisemitism has […]

cufi.org

How about a real source?

 

[Crepitus]

Slippery slope

No. Enforcing well understood rules that are mostly just common sense anyway is not a "slippery slope"

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I see several issues...

Amazon is a private company so it can do what it likes, for one.

Are they and these other tech giants preventing people from setting up new host sites? Everything is so intertwined these days.

Should anyone be forced to host entities calling for/promoting insurgency and political overthrow in the name of free speech? Parler, apparently removed Lin Wood's posts calling for Pence to be executed. Good? Bad? When stuff like that gains enough of a following to push people to act, like we saw this past week, and we have a President openly supporting it...what then?

If you and I have a phone conversation and you say I wish the mob overthrew the Capital, Verizon would not kick you out of its network. These sites claim to be like Verizon for regulatory purposes but they are nothing like Verizon. That’s my only issue here.

True...but I'm not sure that is a good comparison. For example - there is only one phone company that services my area where as with platforms there are multiple (assuming anti-trust isn't the issue).

They aren't booting people for saying "I wish they had". They are booting people for using the platform to plan the insurrection.

LMaO....did they boot BLM?

I seriously doubt blm was on parler.

They were on Twitter and Twitter didn’t shut them down but did call the Star of David a symbol of hate.

Star of David Deemed 'Hateful Imagery' By Twitter | Christians United for Israel

The Star of David has been deemed “hateful imagery” by Twitter, which is locking the accounts of users who display it in their profile pictures. The Campaign Against Antisemitism has […]

cufi.org

How about a real source?

You’re a piece of work.

Twitter Mistakenly Locked Accounts That Tweeted Star of David

Twitter Inc. acknowledged it had mistakenly locked some accounts that tweeted images of the Star of David.

www.bloomberg.com

Twitter mistakenly closes accounts that posted Star of David

Social media giant acknowledges error; blocked users were told Jewish symbol violates policy on 'hateful imagery'

www.google.com

Redirect Notice

www.google.com

You’re such a snowflake

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Slippery slope

No. Enforcing well understood rules that are mostly just common sense anyway is not a "slippery slope"

Yes it is. Twitter picks and chooses who it bans. Based on if you’re left you’re fine.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yep, the purge is real.

They told us to "build our own facebook/twitter" if we didn't' like their rules. So we did, now they changed the goalposts and said "build your own everything."

Next they'll prevent us from using the fiber-optic cables.

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Then again, maybe it is a salutary lesson in not have a platform that calls for the killing of others.
Glad to see they are going to build their own infrastructure. See, capitalism at its finest. What is he whining about? What stifling of free speech?

 

[Dr Grump]

Yes it is. Twitter picks and chooses who it bans. Based on if you’re left you’re fine.

Bit like this site really. And stop being a Drama Queen. Trump tweeted bald-faced lies and Fake News 24/7 for four years and Twitter gave him free reign. They should have acted sooner. I don't see Trump as a free speech advocate. He is despotic by nature and despotic in fact. He deserves a platform like Stalin and Hitler did. Don't ssay this lightly, but mean it totally, Trump would have a totalitarian state at the drop of a hat if it was up to him. He and his Deplorable acolytes.