Breaking confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart 18 ppl shot

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I gotta ask..has it come to the point where most of you guys just keep your responses on file..and just paste them in..when the next shooting happens? Because I'm reading the previous shooting thread..and you guys just say the same thing..over and over and over again.
 
You are a lair.
Only speak the truth. Has it even been a week since our last mass shooting?


Well there you go, pass a law with a minimum length of time between mass shootings.

That will work as well as any of the other stupid laws you want.


I think we should go to the woods a midnight, sprinke pixie dust in a small stream and wish away all violence in the world......that would be as effective as brain and the other anti-gunners with their dumb, useless ideas.
Hard to exercise in a violent country founded by white convicts and religious nuts.
Genes are long lasting
When was our last lynching?
About the time of your out of date pic?


The democrat party was forced to stop lynching blacks in the 1960s....they voted against the anti-lynching bills, but there were enough Republicans to make the democrats stop hanging Black men...

might help if you knew the difference between a noun and an adjective.
parroting our vagina grabber?
He doesn't know the difference either
Ps it's 60 years past the 60s
How m,any KKK guys are 2019 Dems again?
Enjoying sucking off your old white fart socialist VA SS Medicare benefits ?
Dreaming you paid for them?
 
El Paso Mayor saying "multiple suspects"????

Sounds like Obama's MS 13 buddies doing a little gang shootings.
 
Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about bad people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?
 
Time for the gloves to come off..... It's absolutely time to quickly convict if the smoking gun is evident, and to hang such people in the public square, and to leave their rotting bodies hanging for one month in that square.

No more of these do gooders feeling sorry for evil human beings like these. It's time for more good citizens to start carrying (CWP), and be the first responders in order to quickly stop this tragic bullcrap.

Keep on listening to the Democrats people, and more and more will be left vulnerable regardless of who the shooters are. Regardless of who a shooter is or what their ideology is, they aren't finding out who anyone is when they are shooting them, so it matters not who the shooters is, just protect yourself, and protect your loved ones by getting better prepared. Sure the law enforcement can sort it out later, but your loved ones are gone.

Capital punishment must be excersized justfully, but swiftly all at the same time.
I just saw an interview of a guy who was there, who was carrying, and he ran. He's in the military. He tried to help some of the kids who were running and had been separated from their parents, but the guy did NOT go shoot the shooter.
So he didn’t “run” then, he prioritized the situation and saved some kids instead of trying to play hero and potentially not save ANYONE
 
If we have a "Mass shooting" every day......it doesn't mean we have a gun problem......

It means we have a serious problem with Leftist policies creating psychopaths.

Why does the left embrace psychopathic murderers who will find one way or another to kill innocent people?
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings....
Yelling fire in a crowded theater isn't going on in those countries like it is here either. Driving people mad from our leadership positions is going to get us all killed before all is said and done. It's time for government officials to get a damn grip. Stop with the baiting and bullcrap already. To serious a situation has now come from it all.
 
Interview with another witness. This guy was carrying (concealed carry, legally) and you know what he did? He ran.

blob:https://www.nbcnews.com/a0818a1a-bacc-4888-ac35-1a27b2b7d95b
People that carry are under no obligation to protect lemmings like you or the stupid democrats in south texas.
According to the Supreme Court not even the police are obligated to protect you.
That's a fact some fools in el paso just learned.
 
El Paso police classifying this as “gang related terrorism” “Suspect in custody is Hispanic. Possible second suspect still at large but unarmed”.

Could any of you idiot Moon Bats tell me how any additional gun control law is going to stop Hispanic gangs from shooting up whatever they want to shoot up?
 
I gotta ask..has it come to the point where most of you guys just keep your responses on file..and just paste them in..when the next shooting happens? Because I'm reading the previous shooting thread..and you guys just say the same thing..over and over and over again.
The 2nd amendment hasn’t changed since it was written so my response is always going to be the same.
 
Only in America this is normal....YA became numb to this, the rest of the world shaking their head every time that show on their news....keep your deadly toys you might need them one day to kill those who pisses you off i guess.
Thoughts and prayers as usual till the next mass shooting coming to your place of work, worship maybe your kids school. ONLY IN AMERICA.
I know. I wish we had all the bombings they have in those other countries that aren’t America. As long as law abiding people can’t own guns anymore I’d be fine with a subway being blown up by a terrorist every once in a while
which countries have bombings in subway every once in a while? can't be worse than Oklahoma city? Vegas Shooting? Boston? 9/11?
The problem in the US people get killed in random places, sometimes by a family member....just because that person lost it had access to a deadly weapon and he decides to take few people with him and it happens almost daily. Now show me which countries have similar issue?
I'm telling you, you think it is normal and you become numb to it , even if it happens to your family members and in your house hold they brainwashed you to think that one can't live without guns and war toys.
 
Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about band people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?

You obviously have never lived in England.
Knees news told you the uk is a more dangerous place?
Gawd, zero college trumpie
18 stabbings easier than 18 shootings?
How daft can we get?
Please try to get into college
 
El Paso police classifying this as “gang related terrorism” “Suspect in custody is Hispanic. Possible second suspect still at large but unarmed”.

Could any of you idiot Moon Bats tell me how any additional gun control law is going to stop Hispanic gangs from shooting up whatever they want to shoot up?

Sorry, I don't meet your criteria ;), but I just wanted to let you know what the lemmings are counting on.
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Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings....

Meanwhile, to totally solve ANY and ALL mass shootings, we just need to rid society of Leftists
Problem solved.
I thought most were white supremists?
Timothy? Oklahoma?
Sandy hook.
Got an example of a leftist ?
Didn't they tell you on knees news?
It matters not who the shooters are, because they ain't stopping and asking anyone who they are before shooting them. What matters is that we are ready for them no matter who the hell they are. Lock and load people, lock and load.
 
Only in America this is normal....YA became numb to this, the rest of the world shaking their head every time that show on their news....keep your deadly toys you might need them one day to kill those who pisses you off i guess.
Thoughts and prayers as usual till the next mass shooting coming to your place of work, worship maybe your kids school. ONLY IN AMERICA.
I know. I wish we had all the bombings they have in those other countries that aren’t America. As long as law abiding people can’t own guns anymore I’d be fine with a subway being blown up by a terrorist every once in a while
which countries have bombings in subway every once in a while? can't be worse than Oklahoma city? Vegas Shooting? Boston? 9/11?
The problem in the US people get killed in random places, sometimes by a family member....just because that person lost it had access to a deadly weapon and he decides to take few people with him and it happens almost daily. Now show me which countries have similar issue?
I'm telling you, you think it is normal and you become numb to it , even if it happens to your family members and in your house hold they brainwashed you to think that one can't live without guns and war toys.
If an assailant comes up to you with a loaded gun threatening to kill you and you don’t have a gun yourself to potentially equalize the situation, then yes you will not live without a gun. That’s the point. What you don’t get about gun rights is that we hope we don’t EVER have to use them for that purpose. Nobody wants to have to pull a pistol and shoot someone in such a scenario but it sure is nice to be able to defend yourself if you ever needed to
 
Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about bad people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?
I understand your argument. My point is only that it's a lot harder to stab 18 people in a Walmart than it is to shoot 18 people with a powerful rifle in your hands.

I'm so old I remember before all the tough kids had guns--it was always knives being carried, admired, outlawed.... I know they're a real weapon. Rifles kill more, faster, with less chance of being stopped by someone you came close enough to stab.
 
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