Breaking confirmed active shooter at Texas Walmart 18 ppl shot

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Only in America this is normal....YA became numb to this, the rest of the world shaking their head every time that show on their news....keep your deadly toys you might need them one day to kill those who pisses you off i guess.
Thoughts and prayers as usual till the next mass shooting coming to your place of work, worship maybe your kids school. ONLY IN AMERICA.


Moron....the rest of the world will experience this....and they won't have armed citizens to stop it.....

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders and even mass public shootings....

1,100,000 crimes stopped with guns vs 12 mass public shootings in 2018...

Can you count those numbers, can you see which one is bigger?
 
god DAMN it - i thought this was a story from the other day until i saw the date. will this ever stop?


Only when you get rid of gun free zones........ and keep repeat gun offenders in jail for 30 years...that is how you dry up gun crime.
 
Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about band people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?

You obviously have never lived in England.
Knees news told you the uk is a more dangerous place?
Gawd, zero college trumpie
18 stabbings easier than 18 shootings?
How daft can we get?
Please try to get into college





Neither have you.....

UK is violent crime capital of Europe
The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.

UK is violent crime capital of Europe
 
So...now the wait......

If it is a MAGA hat wearing Trump supporter.....coverage will escalate and continue...

If it is a minority of some form...coverage will end....

If the shooter used an AR-15...coverage will continue....

If the shooter used any other gun...coverage will end.
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families

May they rest assured that their rights to buy guns are still keeping them safe




No you don't, you rub your hands gleefully together and dream of ending the 2nd Amendment so the serfs can be brought back into line.
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families

May they rest assured that their rights to buy guns are still keeping them safe
Would if they would excersize their rights. They keep getting duped by the super-crats into believing that they will fly in like Spider-Man etc to save the day. Not going to happen.

Texas is one of the highest density states for guns

Thankfully, the shooter or shooters are still free to buy whatever gun is best suited to shoot up a shopping mall

God bless our second amendment freedoms
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families

May they rest assured that their rights to buy guns are still keeping them safe




No you don't, you rub your hands gleefully together and dream of ending the 2nd Amendment so the serfs can be brought back into line.
But the second amendment keeps us safe

Doesn’t it?
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families

May they rest assured that their rights to buy guns are still keeping them safe




No you don't, you rub your hands gleefully together and dream of ending the 2nd Amendment so the serfs can be brought back into line.
But the second amendment keeps us safe

Doesn’t it?


Yes...it does.

Americans use their guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murder......

And over the last 26 years as more Americans have owned and actually carried guns, our gun murder rate went down 49%......that means more safe, not less.......our gun crime rate went down 75%...75%....that means more safe, not less.....violent crime is down 72%...that means more safe, not less.....

The 2nd Amendment keeps us safe from crimnals and people like you.
 
So...now the wait......

If it is a MAGA hat wearing Trump supporter.....coverage will escalate and continue...

If it is a minority of some form...coverage will end....

If the shooter used an AR-15...coverage will continue....

If the shooter used any other gun...coverage will end.
So, serious question. The witness I heard being interviewed said she was hearing LOUD fireworks. I've heard people describe the pop-pop-pop as fireworks before, but she said LOUD. She said the shooter was wearing noise cancelling ear muffs.
So I'm guessing it was a pretty loud rifle? What kind would it have been?
 
Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about bad people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?
That is not true. Nobody has been asked to hand over any kitchen knives. And knife murders are more common in the US than the UK.
 
So...now the wait......

If it is a MAGA hat wearing Trump supporter.....coverage will escalate and continue...

If it is a minority of some form...coverage will end....

If the shooter used an AR-15...coverage will continue....

If the shooter used any other gun...coverage will end.
So, serious question. The witness I heard being interviewed said she was hearing LOUD fireworks. I've heard people describe the pop-pop-pop as fireworks before, but she said LOUD. She said the shooter was wearing noise cancelling ear muffs.
So I'm guessing it was a pretty loud rifle? What kind would it have been?


It could have been anything, even a shotgun, or pistols.
 
They got the guy, they know it's him. Let's start some public punishments in very quick fashion so that NO ONE thinks this is cool or a fast track to notoriety.

I know we can't really do that. But man a person can wish.
 
Anti-gunners are already on the job......

so.....

Likely no citizens were armed at the time of the attack.....so they had to wait for police to arrive....

We will see what information comes out....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about bad people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?
That is not true. Nobody has been asked to hand over any kitchen knives. And knife murders are more common in the US than the UK.


We have more people......

Your knife murder rates are sky rocketing...your welfare state has finally reached the breaking point....young males raised by single teenage girls in homes without fathers.....generation after generation and you are about to reap the wind with this....as more and more illegal guns are entering Britain.
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families

May they rest assured that their rights to buy guns are still keeping them safe




No you don't, you rub your hands gleefully together and dream of ending the 2nd Amendment so the serfs can be brought back into line.
But the second amendment keeps us safe

Doesn’t it?


Yes...it does.

Americans use their guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murder......

And over the last 26 years as more Americans have owned and actually carried guns, our gun murder rate went down 49%......that means more safe, not less.......our gun crime rate went down 75%...75%....that means more safe, not less.....violent crime is down 72%...that means more safe, not less.....

The 2nd Amendment keeps us safe from crimnals and people like you.

Sure they do

If they stop 1.1 million crimes a year.....why isn’t our crime rate dropping by a million a year?
 
Thoughts & prayers going out from Trump. "God be with you all," he says. Yeah, right! If there were a "god," the shooting never would have happened in the first place!! And that's BIGLY!!!


Why would it not have happened with God? He gave us free will, when we die we return to where we started....... we are told he punishes those who break his Commandments.
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families

May they rest assured that their rights to buy guns are still keeping them safe




No you don't, you rub your hands gleefully together and dream of ending the 2nd Amendment so the serfs can be brought back into line.
But the second amendment keeps us safe

Doesn’t it?






Yes, it keeps the AMERICAN PEOPLE safe from a corrupt government. Why do you think it is billionaires pushing the gun control narrative. They've bought the government, now the only thing preventing them from turning the PEOPLE back into the serfs they so desire us to be is our guns. No matter how condescending your statements are, the fact is billionaires can't control us while we are armed.

Why do you hate the people and love the billionaires?
 
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Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about bad people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?
That is not true. Nobody has been asked to hand over any kitchen knives. And knife murders are more common in the US than the UK.


We have more people......

Your knife murder rates are sky rocketing...your welfare state has finally reached the breaking point....young males raised by single teenage girls in homes without fathers.....generation after generation and you are about to reap the wind with this....as more and more illegal guns are entering Britain.
What constitutes sky rocketing in knife killing?

Do they have 30 million knife killings a year like we have gun killings?
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families

May they rest assured that their rights to buy guns are still keeping them safe




No you don't, you rub your hands gleefully together and dream of ending the 2nd Amendment so the serfs can be brought back into line.
But the second amendment keeps us safe

Doesn’t it?






Yes, it keeps the AMERICAN PEOPLE safe from a corrupt government. Why do you thinks it is billionaires pushing the gun control narrative. They've bought the government, now the only thing preventing them from turning the PEOPLE back into the serfs they so desire us to be is our guns. No matter how condescending your statements are, the fact is billionaires can't control us while we are armed.

Why do you hate the people and love the billionaires?
The American people have never used their guns against a corrupt government. We use a free press
 
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about band people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?

You obviously have never lived in England.
Knees news told you the uk is a more dangerous place?
Gawd, zero college trumpie
18 stabbings easier than 18 shootings?
How daft can we get?
Please try to get into college





Neither have you.....

UK is violent crime capital of Europe
The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.

UK is violent crime capital of Europe
You quote "new research" for a 2009 artid
Meanwhile countries with strong gun control are not having regular mass shootings.
True. In England they turned to stabbings. Do you know why? Because murderers gonna murder :thup:
They might. Do they have mass stabblings, with 18 stabbed, many of them to death, while they were shopping at Walmart?
I don’t know. I don’t read all the stories about bad people doing things, we live in a world with 8 billion people there’s too many of us on this planet and that means sometimes a piece of shit kills people. But there’s been a LOT of stabbings in England. To the point where they’ve asked people to turn in kitchen knives. Fucking kitchen knives are now something you’re supposed to fear when you leave your house in England. But at least there’s no guns though right?
That is not true. Nobody has been asked to hand over any kitchen knives. And knife murders are more common in the US than the UK.


We have more people......

Your knife murder rates are sky rocketing...your welfare state has finally reached the breaking point....young males raised by single teenage girls in homes without fathers.....generation after generation and you are about to reap the wind with this....as more and more illegal guns are entering Britain.
Its pro rata dumbo. I know you dont understand that.
 
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