BREAKING: Johns Hopkins & American College of Pediatricians Formerly Denounce Sex-Change Procedures

[PaintMyHouse]

So, simply cheek swab the children in question. If they have XX or XY DNA with all normal corresponding equipment, drugging or surgery or the coercion to said is simply and inarguably child abuse.

What gender is an XY with a vagina but no penis?

And what gender is an XX with a penis but no vagina?

Your options are: male, female, other? Go...

 

[TeaBagger]

Name that gender?

Warning - graphic (but shouldn't be if we were adults here): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...scale_for_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome.jpg

And tell us, is it child abuse to operate on these babies?

Gender is a complex issue and many people confuse it with sexuality. Parents alone can't make the decision. It is really up too the child.

Gender reassignment on infants in just wrong. Probably it is best to wait into adolescence. By then the child will know.

It used to be that if a child was born with ambiguous genitalia surgery was done immediately. That was a mistake.

God can be on cruel son of a bitch. 1 in 100 people have some sort of gender anomaly. The upside is this. AIS and trans women are superior to cis women.

 

[Brain357]

OK, this really is simple: biologically, an XY "female" is a MALE and an XX "male" is a FEMALE. An individual can pretend to be anything they wish, but the fact remains, they are biologically one of the other. While there are other genetic anomalies (Kleinfelter's Syndrome or XYY syndrome), they are not common and are commonly classified as anomalies when they do occur. Chemical and surgical engineering of an individual's external appearance in order to accommodate their "perceived" choice of gender fails to alter the biological FACT of their natural identity. No amount of wishing, hoping, chemical & surgical mutilation, or legislation and coercion will ever change the fact that a genetically normal XX or XY person will be anything but Female or Male.

And this official announcement has taken that reality one step further. Anyone drugging or cutting up a minor person who is normal XX or XY girl or boy is guilty now of child abuse.

No one is cutting up any minors.

However, minors are prescribed drugs, with their parents consent all the time.

And as usual- your interpretation of everything is false, and as usual- this entire thread starts out with a lie.

Gender anomalies are 1 in 100. I don't know what right wing moron source you got your lies from but here is the real data.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births
Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female

As to Johns Hopkins; that butcher Ben Carson worked there and Johns Hopkins knew that he was a nightmare of a surgeon and so did the Maryland state medical board. It is interesting to note that Ben Carson in no longer licensed to be a doctor.

Maybe this is a good thing because the butchers and Johns Hopkins would probably botch the surgery.

In the case of hermaphrodites or trans the parents should wait until adolescence or early teens.

It's much more complicates than the Xy or XX chromosomes. People will XY and XX Chromosomes can still have biological traits of the opposite sex. Some of these traits can be physical such as differences in brain structure that effect behavior. It's more complex than simple biology.

An example of XY not determining gender are people with AIS. AIS is Androgen Insufficiency Syndrome. Women with AIS have the XY chromosome but never develop male genitalia but do develop a vagina which with surgery can be functional. They also have internal testicles.

How many of these transgender children have any of these issues? Caitlin Jenner does not.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

OK, this really is simple: biologically, an XY "female" is a MALE and an XX "male" is a FEMALE. An individual can pretend to be anything they wish, but the fact remains, they are biologically one of the other. While there are other genetic anomalies (Kleinfelter's Syndrome or XYY syndrome), they are not common and are commonly classified as anomalies when they do occur. Chemical and surgical engineering of an individual's external appearance in order to accommodate their "perceived" choice of gender fails to alter the biological FACT of their natural identity. No amount of wishing, hoping, chemical & surgical mutilation, or legislation and coercion will ever change the fact that a genetically normal XX or XY person will be anything but Female or Male.

And this official announcement has taken that reality one step further. Anyone drugging or cutting up a minor person who is normal XX or XY girl or boy is guilty now of child abuse.

No one is cutting up any minors.

However, minors are prescribed drugs, with their parents consent all the time.

And as usual- your interpretation of everything is false, and as usual- this entire thread starts out with a lie.

Gender anomalies are 1 in 100. I don't know what right wing moron source you got your lies from but here is the real data.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births
Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female

As to Johns Hopkins; that butcher Ben Carson worked there and Johns Hopkins knew that he was a nightmare of a surgeon and so did the Maryland state medical board. It is interesting to note that Ben Carson in no longer licensed to be a doctor.

Maybe this is a good thing because the butchers and Johns Hopkins would probably botch the surgery.

In the case of hermaphrodites or trans the parents should wait until adolescence or early teens.

It's much more complicates than the Xy or XX chromosomes. People will XY and XX Chromosomes can still have biological traits of the opposite sex. Some of these traits can be physical such as differences in brain structure that effect behavior. It's more complex than simple biology.

An example of XY not determining gender are people with AIS. AIS is Androgen Insufficiency Syndrome. Women with AIS have the XY chromosome but never develop male genitalia but do develop a vagina which with surgery can be functional. They also have internal testicles.

They forgot epispadias, 1 in 300,000, I'm not surprised. Many of those boys are soon surgically made into little girls.

Hey J, is that child abuse?

 

[TeaBagger]

So, simply cheek swab the children in question. If they have XX or XY DNA with all normal corresponding equipment, drugging or surgery or the coercion to said is simply and inarguably child abuse.

Only a moron who bathes in ignorance would think it was that simple. You must be a Republican.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

OK, this really is simple: biologically, an XY "female" is a MALE and an XX "male" is a FEMALE. An individual can pretend to be anything they wish, but the fact remains, they are biologically one of the other. While there are other genetic anomalies (Kleinfelter's Syndrome or XYY syndrome), they are not common and are commonly classified as anomalies when they do occur. Chemical and surgical engineering of an individual's external appearance in order to accommodate their "perceived" choice of gender fails to alter the biological FACT of their natural identity. No amount of wishing, hoping, chemical & surgical mutilation, or legislation and coercion will ever change the fact that a genetically normal XX or XY person will be anything but Female or Male.

And this official announcement has taken that reality one step further. Anyone drugging or cutting up a minor person who is normal XX or XY girl or boy is guilty now of child abuse.

No one is cutting up any minors.

However, minors are prescribed drugs, with their parents consent all the time.

And as usual- your interpretation of everything is false, and as usual- this entire thread starts out with a lie.

Gender anomalies are 1 in 100. I don't know what right wing moron source you got your lies from but here is the real data.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births
Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female

As to Johns Hopkins; that butcher Ben Carson worked there and Johns Hopkins knew that he was a nightmare of a surgeon and so did the Maryland state medical board. It is interesting to note that Ben Carson in no longer licensed to be a doctor.

Maybe this is a good thing because the butchers and Johns Hopkins would probably botch the surgery.

In the case of hermaphrodites or trans the parents should wait until adolescence or early teens.

It's much more complicates than the Xy or XX chromosomes. People will XY and XX Chromosomes can still have biological traits of the opposite sex. Some of these traits can be physical such as differences in brain structure that effect behavior. It's more complex than simple biology.

An example of XY not determining gender are people with AIS. AIS is Androgen Insufficiency Syndrome. Women with AIS have the XY chromosome but never develop male genitalia but do develop a vagina which with surgery can be functional. They also have internal testicles.

How many of these transgender children have any of these issues? Caitlin Jenner does not.

It doesn't matter a damn how many. What matters is, you can't define gender and if you can't, how can they be wrong?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Name that gender?

Warning - graphic (but shouldn't be if we were adults here): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...scale_for_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome.jpg

And tell us, is it child abuse to operate on these babies?

Gender is a complex issue and many people confuse it with sexuality. Parents alone can't make the decision. It is really up too the child.

Gender reassignment on infants in just wrong. Probably it is best to wait into adolescence. By then the child will know.

It used to be that if a child was born with ambiguous genitalia surgery was done immediately. That was a mistake.

God can be on cruel son of a bitch. 1 in 100 people have some sort of gender anomaly. The upside is this. AIS and trans women are superior to cis women.

TB is very knowledgeable.

These guys would like you, but not these other morons: What is intersex? | Intersex Society of North America

 

[Silhouette]

Cheek swab. XY DNA with normal body parts for male or XX DNA with normal body parts for female, any drugging or surgery or coercion to either is flatly child abuse.

 

[TeaBagger]

OK, this really is simple: biologically, an XY "female" is a MALE and an XX "male" is a FEMALE. An individual can pretend to be anything they wish, but the fact remains, they are biologically one of the other. While there are other genetic anomalies (Kleinfelter's Syndrome or XYY syndrome), they are not common and are commonly classified as anomalies when they do occur. Chemical and surgical engineering of an individual's external appearance in order to accommodate their "perceived" choice of gender fails to alter the biological FACT of their natural identity. No amount of wishing, hoping, chemical & surgical mutilation, or legislation and coercion will ever change the fact that a genetically normal XX or XY person will be anything but Female or Male.

And this official announcement has taken that reality one step further. Anyone drugging or cutting up a minor person who is normal XX or XY girl or boy is guilty now of child abuse.

No one is cutting up any minors.

However, minors are prescribed drugs, with their parents consent all the time.

And as usual- your interpretation of everything is false, and as usual- this entire thread starts out with a lie.

Gender anomalies are 1 in 100. I don't know what right wing moron source you got your lies from but here is the real data.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births
Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female

As to Johns Hopkins; that butcher Ben Carson worked there and Johns Hopkins knew that he was a nightmare of a surgeon and so did the Maryland state medical board. It is interesting to note that Ben Carson in no longer licensed to be a doctor.

Maybe this is a good thing because the butchers and Johns Hopkins would probably botch the surgery.

In the case of hermaphrodites or trans the parents should wait until adolescence or early teens.

It's much more complicates than the Xy or XX chromosomes. People will XY and XX Chromosomes can still have biological traits of the opposite sex. Some of these traits can be physical such as differences in brain structure that effect behavior. It's more complex than simple biology.

An example of XY not determining gender are people with AIS. AIS is Androgen Insufficiency Syndrome. Women with AIS have the XY chromosome but never develop male genitalia but do develop a vagina which with surgery can be functional. They also have internal testicles.

They forgot epispadias, 1 in 300,000, I'm not surprised. Many of those boys are soon surgically made into little girls.

Hey J, is that child abuse?

What is amazing about this thread is the typical low information simpleton Republican shit coming out of the anal/oral pores of the right wing mental midgets. Make me want to beat them all to a bloody pulp.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Cheek swab. XY DNA with normal body parts for male or XX DNA with normal body parts for female, any drugging or surgery or coercion to either is flatly child abuse.

Answer the questions. If the baby is XX, should we remove the penis? If XY, should we add one?

 

[Brain357]

OK, this really is simple: biologically, an XY "female" is a MALE and an XX "male" is a FEMALE. An individual can pretend to be anything they wish, but the fact remains, they are biologically one of the other. While there are other genetic anomalies (Kleinfelter's Syndrome or XYY syndrome), they are not common and are commonly classified as anomalies when they do occur. Chemical and surgical engineering of an individual's external appearance in order to accommodate their "perceived" choice of gender fails to alter the biological FACT of their natural identity. No amount of wishing, hoping, chemical & surgical mutilation, or legislation and coercion will ever change the fact that a genetically normal XX or XY person will be anything but Female or Male.

And this official announcement has taken that reality one step further. Anyone drugging or cutting up a minor person who is normal XX or XY girl or boy is guilty now of child abuse.

No one is cutting up any minors.

However, minors are prescribed drugs, with their parents consent all the time.

And as usual- your interpretation of everything is false, and as usual- this entire thread starts out with a lie.

Gender anomalies are 1 in 100. I don't know what right wing moron source you got your lies from but here is the real data.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births
Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female

As to Johns Hopkins; that butcher Ben Carson worked there and Johns Hopkins knew that he was a nightmare of a surgeon and so did the Maryland state medical board. It is interesting to note that Ben Carson in no longer licensed to be a doctor.

Maybe this is a good thing because the butchers and Johns Hopkins would probably botch the surgery.

In the case of hermaphrodites or trans the parents should wait until adolescence or early teens.

It's much more complicates than the Xy or XX chromosomes. People will XY and XX Chromosomes can still have biological traits of the opposite sex. Some of these traits can be physical such as differences in brain structure that effect behavior. It's more complex than simple biology.

An example of XY not determining gender are people with AIS. AIS is Androgen Insufficiency Syndrome. Women with AIS have the XY chromosome but never develop male genitalia but do develop a vagina which with surgery can be functional. They also have internal testicles.

How many of these transgender children have any of these issues? Caitlin Jenner does not.

It doesn't matter a damn how many. What matters is, you can't define gender and if you can't, how can they be wrong?

So that probably isn't even the case with the children in question. Thanks.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

OK, this really is simple: biologically, an XY "female" is a MALE and an XX "male" is a FEMALE. An individual can pretend to be anything they wish, but the fact remains, they are biologically one of the other. While there are other genetic anomalies (Kleinfelter's Syndrome or XYY syndrome), they are not common and are commonly classified as anomalies when they do occur. Chemical and surgical engineering of an individual's external appearance in order to accommodate their "perceived" choice of gender fails to alter the biological FACT of their natural identity. No amount of wishing, hoping, chemical & surgical mutilation, or legislation and coercion will ever change the fact that a genetically normal XX or XY person will be anything but Female or Male.

And this official announcement has taken that reality one step further. Anyone drugging or cutting up a minor person who is normal XX or XY girl or boy is guilty now of child abuse.

No one is cutting up any minors.

However, minors are prescribed drugs, with their parents consent all the time.

And as usual- your interpretation of everything is false, and as usual- this entire thread starts out with a lie.

Gender anomalies are 1 in 100. I don't know what right wing moron source you got your lies from but here is the real data.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births
Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female

As to Johns Hopkins; that butcher Ben Carson worked there and Johns Hopkins knew that he was a nightmare of a surgeon and so did the Maryland state medical board. It is interesting to note that Ben Carson in no longer licensed to be a doctor.

Maybe this is a good thing because the butchers and Johns Hopkins would probably botch the surgery.

In the case of hermaphrodites or trans the parents should wait until adolescence or early teens.

It's much more complicates than the Xy or XX chromosomes. People will XY and XX Chromosomes can still have biological traits of the opposite sex. Some of these traits can be physical such as differences in brain structure that effect behavior. It's more complex than simple biology.

An example of XY not determining gender are people with AIS. AIS is Androgen Insufficiency Syndrome. Women with AIS have the XY chromosome but never develop male genitalia but do develop a vagina which with surgery can be functional. They also have internal testicles.

They forgot epispadias, 1 in 300,000, I'm not surprised. Many of those boys are soon surgically made into little girls.

Hey J, is that child abuse?

What is amazing about this thread is the typical low information simpleton Republican shit coming out of the anal/oral pores of the right wing mental midgets. Make me want to beat them all to a bloody pulp.

If they weren't ignorant of the real world, by choice, they wouldn't be who they are...

 

[Brain357]

Cheek swab. XY DNA with normal body parts for male or XX DNA with normal body parts for female, any drugging or surgery or coercion to either is flatly child abuse.

Answer the questions. If the baby is XX, should we remove the penis? If XY, should we add one?

It doesn't matter if that isn't the case of these transgender children.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And this official announcement has taken that reality one step further. Anyone drugging or cutting up a minor person who is normal XX or XY girl or boy is guilty now of child abuse.

No one is cutting up any minors.

However, minors are prescribed drugs, with their parents consent all the time.

And as usual- your interpretation of everything is false, and as usual- this entire thread starts out with a lie.

Gender anomalies are 1 in 100. I don't know what right wing moron source you got your lies from but here is the real data.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births
Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female

As to Johns Hopkins; that butcher Ben Carson worked there and Johns Hopkins knew that he was a nightmare of a surgeon and so did the Maryland state medical board. It is interesting to note that Ben Carson in no longer licensed to be a doctor.

Maybe this is a good thing because the butchers and Johns Hopkins would probably botch the surgery.

In the case of hermaphrodites or trans the parents should wait until adolescence or early teens.

It's much more complicates than the Xy or XX chromosomes. People will XY and XX Chromosomes can still have biological traits of the opposite sex. Some of these traits can be physical such as differences in brain structure that effect behavior. It's more complex than simple biology.

An example of XY not determining gender are people with AIS. AIS is Androgen Insufficiency Syndrome. Women with AIS have the XY chromosome but never develop male genitalia but do develop a vagina which with surgery can be functional. They also have internal testicles.

How many of these transgender children have any of these issues? Caitlin Jenner does not.

It doesn't matter a damn how many. What matters is, you can't define gender and if you can't, how can they be wrong?

So that probably isn't even the case with the children in question. Thanks.

Define, for us please, what is male and what is female? If say we have a baby and it's unclear, it happens, often, how do we tell?

 

[Silhouette]

Cheek swab showing XY with NORMAL male body parts or XX with NORMAL female body parts, any drugging or surgery or coercion to same is child abuse.

(Paint, in your obvious mania defending the indefensible on this thread, you are having trouble reading..)

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Cheek swab. XY DNA with normal body parts for male or XX DNA with normal body parts for female, any drugging or surgery or coercion to either is flatly child abuse.

Answer the questions. If the baby is XX, should we remove the penis? If XY, should we add one?

It doesn't matter if that isn't the case of these transgender children.

To say these children are wrong, you have to say why they are wrong. Tell us how you decide the gender of another person?

They can't be wrong if you can't do that...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Cheek swab showing XY with NORMAL male body parts or XX with NORMAL female body parts, any drugging or surgery or coercion to same is child abuse.

(Paint, in your obvious mania defending the indefensible on this thread, you are having trouble reading..)

What gender is an XY with a vagina but no penis?

And what gender is an XX with a penis but no vagina?

Your options are: male, female, other? Go...

 

[rcfieldz]

And what do they do with all those dicks and balls they cut off?

 

[Silhouette]

Tell us how you decide the gender of another person?

>>Cheek swab showing XY with NORMAL male body parts or XX with NORMAL female body parts, any drugging or surgery or coercion to same is child abuse. <<

(Paint, in your obvious mania defending the indefensible on this thread, you are having trouble reading..)

 

[Syriusly]

NORMAL female body parts, any drugging or surgery or coercion to same is child abuse...)

So if Conservative doctors coerce a child into accepting a gender that he or she does not believe is correct- you think that is criminal child abuse?