BREAKING: Judge Roy Moore Suspended for Violating Gay Marriage Ruling

[Divine Wind]

Got examples?

Yes. Please scroll up to earlier in the thread.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Just broke on twitter.

Good for the Alabama Judicial Court

Way to go, guys.

If a judge doesn't obey the law they should be removed.

I wish that was enforced on liberal judges, but there is a double standard.

Really? Explain further please.

 

[mdk]

The states and their officers are subordinate to the Federal courts, the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law - settled, accepted, and beyond dispute.

Then Justice Moore was simply being subordinate to Hively v Ivy Tech (7th circuit, 2016). Pay attention to that case because it's going to be cited in future cases...

Moore released his order to Alabama's probate judges months before the Hively decision released. Nice try, though.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

He takes an oath to defend the Constitution not to defend probably unconstitutional laws in the courts. In this case that would have just been a waste of time and money. Everyone with a brain knew that POS was going down. It was very obviously unconstitutional.

Nice spin. Is POTUS or any other official obligated to uphold the law if it's probably Constitutional? The fact remains, like Judge Moore or Kim Davis, all those sworn to a duty must uphold that duty or excuse themselves....even if that means resigning. Picking and choosing purely for partisan reasons is part of our nation's problems.

You seem to be struggling to understand the difference between failing to enforce the law, and declining to defend it in court using the resources of the DOJ at the expense of the tax payers when that defense is likely to fail as it did.

Roy Moron was actively obstructing the law. So was Kim Davis. Obama did no such thing.

 

[Divine Wind]

Moore is what the RWers call an "activist judge" and now the LWers can see why "activist judges" are wrong.

Our officials should uphold the law.

 

[Divine Wind]

You seem to be struggling to understand the difference between failing to enforce the law, and declining to defend it in court using the resources of the DOJ at the expense of the tax payers when that defense is likely to fail as it did.

Roy Moron was actively obstructing the law. So was Kim Davis. Obama did no such thing.

Merely a partisan perception problem on your part.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Just broke on twitter.

Good for the Alabama Judicial Court

Way to go, guys.

horrible news. thanks obama

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

You seem to be struggling to understand the difference between failing to enforce the law, and declining to defend it in court using the resources of the DOJ at the expense of the tax payers when that defense is likely to fail as it did.

Roy Moron was actively obstructing the law. So was Kim Davis. Obama did no such thing.

Merely a partisan perception problem on your part.

Yes. Yours.

 

[Frank'sRules]

The states and their officers are subordinate to the Federal courts, the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law - settled, accepted, and beyond dispute.

Then Justice Moore was simply being subordinate to Hively v Ivy Tech (7th circuit, 2016). Pay attention to that case because it's going to be cited in future cases...

Moore was disobeying the Supreme Court ruling, and you are always fucking wrong.

 

[Frank'sRules]

Just broke on twitter.

Good for the Alabama Judicial Court

Way to go, guys.

horrible news. thanks obama

Moore did it to himself. If he had any ethics at all he'd still have a job.

 

[bodecea]

Believe me, if the law banning SS marriage were upheld, and some liberal judge decided to not abide and marry SS couples, the left would cheer this as "the right thing to do".

Gavin Newton would be puzzled by your comment.

 

[Seawytch]

Got examples?

Yes. Please scroll up to earlier in the thread.

I could find nothing describing President Obama defying a SCOTUS ruling. Link again.

 

[jillian]

Just broke on twitter.

Good for the Alabama Judicial Court

Way to go, guys.

horrible news. thanks obama

Moore did it to himself. If he had any ethics at all he'd still have a job.

LK is kidding. He knows that it's a great thing.

 

[jillian]

Believe me, if the law banning SS marriage were upheld, and some liberal judge decided to not abide and marry SS couples, the left would cheer this as "the right thing to do".

except that it wouldn't happen. just like liberals didn't threaten armed revolution when scalia appointed bush to the presidency.

you're welcome.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Just broke on twitter.

Good for the Alabama Judicial Court

Way to go, guys.

If a judge doesn't obey the law they should be removed.

I wish that was enforced on liberal judges, but there is a double standard.

Wrong.

There is no ‘double standard.’

Any judge who violates the rule of law as did Moore would be likewise subject to punitive measures – regardless his ideology.

 

[Silhouette]

I like this thread. Especially it's title. For awhile I was worried about republican congressional candidates getting the votes they needed. This ought to push them over the top.

 

[jillian]

Just broke on twitter.

Good for the Alabama Judicial Court

Way to go, guys.

If a judge doesn't obey the law they should be removed.

I wish that was enforced on liberal judges, but there is a double standard.

what supreme court rulings didn't so called "liberal judges obey?

i'm looking forward to this.

 

[Divine Wind]

Not even remotely the same (or true) Many administrations have chosen not defend unconstitutional laws. They continued to enforce, they chose not to defend it in court.

Ahhh, so that makes it okay. Great.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Well, if true, I have no problem here.... he should uphold his duties.

But remember folks, that shit works both ways. Many of you on the left have no problem when your side sidesteps their sworn duties in order to "make a statement"

Really? When and where did that happen. ??Who are we talking about?

The Obama administration's decision to not enforce DOMA for starters...

This fails as a red herring fallacy.

Moore willfully disobeyed a Supreme Court ruling, the president has not.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Then Justice Moore was simply being subordinate to Hively v Ivy Tech (7th circuit, 2016).

WTF?

Obergefel v. Hodges was decide June 26, 2015

Moore issued an order on January 6, 2016 that said:

IT IS ORDERED AND DIRECTED THAT: Until further decision by the Alabama Supreme Court, the existing orders of the Alabama Supreme Court that Alabama probate judges have a ministerial duty not to issue any marriage license contrary to the Alabama Sanctity of Marriage Amendment or the Alabama Marriage Protection Act remain in full force and effect. DONE January 6, 2016.​

Hively was issued by the 7th Circuit on July 28, 2016.



WTF?

1. Moore was being subordinate to a decision by the 7th Circuit (Alabama is in the 11th Circuit) that wasn't even issued yet? Bull puckey.

2. You still seem to have no understanding of the law, the 7th Circuit Courts decision in Hively (which has nothing to do with marriage anyway) does not reverse Supreme Court Decisions.


https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf
https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/roymoore-adminorder_jan6-2016.pdf
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-b...8/C:15-1720:J:Rovner:aut:T:fnOp:N:1801805:S:0

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