BREAKING...Maddow: we've got Trump's tax returns!

[NYcarbineer]

This is right out of the Karl Rove playbook, and his planting of the fake GW Bush national guard letters that Dan Rather fell for.

 

[JBond]

So a journalist can release kiddie porn and be shielded?

I know this is an extreme example, but if the tax law states you cannot release someone's tax information without their knowledge (or a court order maybe) why does the journalists shield protect you?

Kiddie porn isn't the same thing. Kiddie porn isn't even in the same fucking galaxy as a tax return. Whomever sent out Trump's taxes broke the law, unless it was Trump or someone acting as his agent. Maddow and MSNBC did not pay for it and therefor as a journalist should could report on it without breaking the law. She also has Shield Laws that allow her to protect her source, though here those don't matter because the pages were mailed anonymously so she doesn't even know her source.

Both are illegal, one merely in the possession, the other to disseminate without the permission of the owner. Once they decided to release the information, they became part of the chain of release outside the limits imposed by the owner of said returns.

If the Tax returns actually showed something illegal, that would maybe give Maddow more of a shield from prosecution under the law, but the return shows nothing of the sort. How can she claim her actions were in the public interest when they show nothing but he paid taxes that year?

Are you either a tax lawyer or tax attorney? I am sure the real lawyers at NBC know what they are doing

They may know what they are doing, but that didn't help mad cow from being trolled like a MF'r. Trump ran circles around her on this one. Leaked his own return. Genius!

Just how do you know this?

Just an educated guess. Maybe Dems violated the law and stole it, but based on the original person that received it (at the Daily Beast) and the nature of the return (paid tens of millions in taxes), it is nothing but a positive for Trump.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Regardless of which end of the spectrum you occupy, it really is okay to lower your fists now and then and admit a screwup, or a weakness, or anything negative.

Left wing Slate does it here: Rachel Maddow Turned a Scoop on Donald Trump’s Taxes Into a Cynical, Self-Defeating Spectacle

Are there any Progressives who think this big tax revelation didn't go very well? That it may have actually helped Trump and the GOP?
.

That's why it's clear from a common sense perspective that this was engineered by Trump and his cohorts.

Once a con man, always a con man.

If he did, it was a genius move!
I am sure he appreciates all of you guys compliments today

If you admire con men I guess it's genius.

 

[martybegan]

because if it truly is a crime to disseminate someone's tax information, the content of said tax return is meaningless.

And ask the people over at Gawker how far you can stretch journalistic privilege.

Big difference between a sex tape they PAID for...which is solicitation, and what happened last night. Insert another quarter and please try again.

So a journalist can release kiddie porn and be shielded?

I know this is an extreme example, but if the tax law states you cannot release someone's tax information without their knowledge (or a court order maybe) why does the journalists shield protect you?

Kiddie porn isn't the same thing. Kiddie porn isn't even in the same fucking galaxy as a tax return. Whomever sent out Trump's taxes broke the law, unless it was Trump or someone acting as his agent. Maddow and MSNBC did not pay for it and therefor as a journalist should could report on it without breaking the law. She also has Shield Laws that allow her to protect her source, though here those don't matter because the pages were mailed anonymously so she doesn't even know her source.

Both are illegal, one merely in the possession, the other to disseminate without the permission of the owner. Once they decided to release the information, they became part of the chain of release outside the limits imposed by the owner of said returns.

If the Tax returns actually showed something illegal, that would maybe give Maddow more of a shield from prosecution under the law, but the return shows nothing of the sort. How can she claim her actions were in the public interest when they show nothing but he paid taxes that year?

Are you either a tax lawyer or tax attorney? I am sure the real lawyers at NBC know what they are doing

Just like the lawyers at CBS approved the Dan Rather Bush National Guard Memo?

 

[Mac1958]

Regardless of which end of the spectrum you occupy, it really is okay to lower your fists now and then and admit a screwup, or a weakness, or anything negative.

Left wing Slate does it here: Rachel Maddow Turned a Scoop on Donald Trump’s Taxes Into a Cynical, Self-Defeating Spectacle

Are there any Progressives who think this big tax revelation didn't go very well? That it may have actually helped Trump and the GOP?
.

That's why it's clear from a common sense perspective that this was engineered by Trump and his cohorts.

Once a con man, always a con man.

If he did, it was a genius move!
I am sure he appreciates all of you guys compliments today

And if it's true, Maddow bit.

Tough shit. I love it when a partisan's zealotry bites them on the ass.

If you're going to play nasty, you can't whine the other guy does too.

Maybe people should stop playing nasty.
.

 

[theHawk]

Regardless of which end of the spectrum you occupy, it really is okay to lower your fists now and then and admit a screwup, or a weakness, or anything negative.

Left wing Slate does it here: Rachel Maddow Turned a Scoop on Donald Trump’s Taxes Into a Cynical, Self-Defeating Spectacle

Are there any Progressives who think this big tax revelation didn't go very well? That it may have actually helped Trump and the GOP?
.

That's why it's clear from a common sense perspective that this was engineered by Trump and his cohorts.

Once a con man, always a con man.

LOL, engineered by Trump. I guess you're at least admitting that Madcow was dumb enough to think it would be devastating for Trump.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Regardless of which end of the spectrum you occupy, it really is okay to lower your fists now and then and admit a screwup, or a weakness, or anything negative.

Left wing Slate does it here: Rachel Maddow Turned a Scoop on Donald Trump’s Taxes Into a Cynical, Self-Defeating Spectacle

Are there any Progressives who think this big tax revelation didn't go very well? That it may have actually helped Trump and the GOP?
.

Ok, so what was the proper 'thing' to do, as far as MSNBC and Maddow are concerned?

 

[Eaglewings]

It's fairly obvious the Trump administration leaked the the partial tax return, of one year, with Trump's blessing.

Is that why he is saying whoever leaked it broke the law? Do you think he wants to arrest himself?

Please don't be so NAIVE!

Trump had those 2 pages released.....just like he had his State tax returns released during the campaign.....

For goodness sake, wake up....this is simply Trump shenanigans, to change the topic....it's Trump`s M/O!

Loony conspiracy theorists

Harley....

He wants people to not be focused just like when he lied about the wire tapping and is now changing that story...
Russia, Health Insurance

it was leaked... Funny how Trump kept his twitter silent but his son spoke about him paying taxes withen hours..Nothing goes by without Trump talking..it is so obvious

 

[Care4all]

It's fairly obvious the Trump administration leaked the the partial tax return, of one year, with Trump's blessing.

Is that why he is saying whoever leaked it broke the law? Do you think he wants to arrest himself?

Please don't be so NAIVE!

Trump had those 2 pages released.....just like he had his State tax returns released during the campaign.....

For goodness sake, wake up....this is simply Trump shenanigans, to change the topic....it's Trump`s M/O!

Loony conspiracy theorists

It isn't a conspiracy, it's evident, plain as daylight who leaked these returns, and only the first 2 pages, showing us nothing about his foreign dealings because he only showed us the first two pages, showing simply his earnings and taxes paid....

AND

NO ONE BUT TRUMP HAS ACCESS TO HIS RETURNS.

Anyone, taking the risk to steal them, would steal the whole tax return, with the nitty gritty details WE ALL WANT TO KNOW......

 

[Wry Catcher]

Regardless of which end of the spectrum you occupy, it really is okay to lower your fists now and then and admit a screwup, or a weakness, or anything negative.

Left wing Slate does it here: Rachel Maddow Turned a Scoop on Donald Trump’s Taxes Into a Cynical, Self-Defeating Spectacle

Are there any Progressives who think this big tax revelation didn't go very well? That it may have actually helped Trump and the GOP?
.

Or the release of his '05 1040 by Trump before the MSNBC Broadcast may have been a tactic to get Trump to distance himself from the health care fiasco & Russian, et al connections in the making. Keep in mind, the copy has "Client Copy" stamped upon it, and only the first two pages of must have been many were released.

 

[martybegan]

because if it truly is a crime to disseminate someone's tax information, the content of said tax return is meaningless.

And ask the people over at Gawker how far you can stretch journalistic privilege.

Big difference between a sex tape they PAID for...which is solicitation, and what happened last night. Insert another quarter and please try again.

So a journalist can release kiddie porn and be shielded?

I know this is an extreme example, but if the tax law states you cannot release someone's tax information without their knowledge (or a court order maybe) why does the journalists shield protect you?

Kiddie porn isn't the same thing. Kiddie porn isn't even in the same fucking galaxy as a tax return. Whomever sent out Trump's taxes broke the law, unless it was Trump or someone acting as his agent. Maddow and MSNBC did not pay for it and therefor as a journalist should could report on it without breaking the law. She also has Shield Laws that allow her to protect her source, though here those don't matter because the pages were mailed anonymously so she doesn't even know her source.

Both are illegal, one merely in the possession, the other to disseminate without the permission of the owner. Once they decided to release the information, they became part of the chain of release outside the limits imposed by the owner of said returns.

If the Tax returns actually showed something illegal, that would maybe give Maddow more of a shield from prosecution under the law, but the return shows nothing of the sort. How can she claim her actions were in the public interest when they show nothing but he paid taxes that year?

No. You are arguing against a law. Do you understand that? Have you taken the time to look up the law the entire time you have been arguing with me? Journalists do not have to follow the same rules that you and I do. They did not solicit the information in the same way Gawker pays for information and therefor are protected differently than the situation Gawker was. What they did was not illegal.

The New York Times reported on Trump's 1995 tax returns a long time ago... this is nothing new.

Who gave Trump’s taxes to the New York Times? The mystery behind a bombshell story.

They still have to follow basic rules, and if the law explicitly protects private citizen's tax returns, (as Trump was back in 2005) any shield they are claiming isn't exactly made of adamantium.

 

[Mac1958]

Regardless of which end of the spectrum you occupy, it really is okay to lower your fists now and then and admit a screwup, or a weakness, or anything negative.

Left wing Slate does it here: Rachel Maddow Turned a Scoop on Donald Trump’s Taxes Into a Cynical, Self-Defeating Spectacle

Are there any Progressives who think this big tax revelation didn't go very well? That it may have actually helped Trump and the GOP?
.

Ok, so what was the proper 'thing' to do, as far as MSNBC and Maddow are concerned?

I have no idea. Not my problem.

Partisan ideologues deserve whatever they get, I do know that.
.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Regardless of which end of the spectrum you occupy, it really is okay to lower your fists now and then and admit a screwup, or a weakness, or anything negative.

Left wing Slate does it here: Rachel Maddow Turned a Scoop on Donald Trump’s Taxes Into a Cynical, Self-Defeating Spectacle

Are there any Progressives who think this big tax revelation didn't go very well? That it may have actually helped Trump and the GOP?
.

That's why it's clear from a common sense perspective that this was engineered by Trump and his cohorts.

Once a con man, always a con man.

If he did, it was a genius move!
I am sure he appreciates all of you guys compliments today

And if it's true, Maddow bit.

Tough shit. I love it when a partisan's zealotry bites them on the ass.

If you're going to play nasty, you can't whine the other guy does too.
.

And where was your outrage over the wikileaks publications? Cite me those threads and posts, maybe I can stand corrected for once this month,

but I'm guessing you were relatively quiet.

 

[mudwhistle]

ONLY the taxpayer can release any part of a tax return. For anyone else to do so is a felony. IF, big IF, MSNBC had any moral standards or propriety, they would launch an investigation to find out who had broken Federal law and had stolen those two pages.

You may have never purchased a home or refinanced one. Copies of taxes are generally provided to the lender by the borrower. We saw the 1040 page with the stamp (Clients Copy) on TV last night, so Trump must have given the copy to another, willingly. If all of the schedules were included, which would be a normal practice given the security now required for a loan, it is likely more details on more schedules will see the light of day.

BTW, it is damn funny and karma that the Alt. Right/crazy right wingers have their panties in a tangle when two pages of Trumps taxes show up, and cheered when Wikileaks released volumes of personal correspondence by actual theft of Democrats E-Mails.

F'ng hysterical hypocrites got their comeuppance!

Pure speculation of course.
But that's all the Left has anymore.
Tax returns are still confidential.

I'll give you a +1 for at least saying it correctly, Confidential, not fucking Classified.

The meaning of the word Classified is dependent on context of course.

The document in question was stamped, "Client Copy"; that should make even a conservative curious.

Curious only that the IRS stamps those copies. I've only seen official IRS documents stamped that way to include W2s.

 

[fncceo]

that this was engineered by Trump and his cohorts.

You can only play someone who wants to be played. No matter how you spin this, it was a failure to which Maddow and her sycophantic followers will never concede.

And they still wonder why they lost.

 

[theHawk]

Maddow forced the regressive Trump to release his tax return, and somebody silly regressively thinks Trump won?

Cuckey's alt world: Madcow proving Trump paid nearly $40 mil in taxes ONE year at a much higher rate than Sanders or Obama, is bad for Trump.

 

[Auld Phart]

This is right out of the Karl Rove playbook, and his planting of the fake GW Bush national guard letters that Dan Rather fell for.

Rove planted those letters?

 

[Lewdog]

Someone in the IRS must have leaked them specifically to her. Probably a fan of hers that wants to see her get the credit. Hopefully Trump gets his lawyers going on this right away.

Actually, if she releases them that is DOJ fodder.

why

It is a felony for her to possess his tax returns.

No. She is protected as a journalist. She has special rights that you and I do not have.

Watch and see what the DOJ does to man-brow.
The bull dyke just destroyed her career on national TV.
Oh the sweet irony!
The bitch is has been trying to destroy President Trump and instead she destroys herself.

All the DOJ can do is try to make her reveal her source, which was actually the guy that was on the show with her. Then they can try to get him to reveal his source, but he got the pages in the mail anonymously so he can't. So there isn't shit the DOJ can do is file a bunch of useless paperwork that MSNBC could then turn around and sue them for harassment.

 

[skookerasbil]

Who cares about this story?

By this time next week it'll be dead just like the stoopid Russia story is now.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Maddow forced the regressive Trump to release his tax return, and somebody silly regressively thinks Trump won?

I thought Trump didnt pay any taxes.....oops.
When in fact he not only paid taxes he did so at a higher rate than barry,bernie and a host of other liberal shitheads.

Winning.......