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[DrDoomNGloom]

Hey gloom, you stupid cocksucker.

Why you posting up photos of race cars.

Post up the photo of the 100k production automobile from an American manufacture.
Which is what was being discussed by the truck driver dude. Who was the one claimed there were no 100k American cars. I said you could dress up a Vett off the floor and maybe hit 100k. And you could.

Was that Mustang rolled off the Ford production shop floor like in the photo? Fuck no you say.
How about the Shelby Cobra? Production line built? Fuck no.

I have fucked with your head so bad you are really grasping to find something to slam me with. Fuck you dude..

They all are production cars of US auto makers stupid fuck ..................

 

[Ame®icano]

But to agree to a certain wage and then whine about how you're getting "screwed" by your boss is covetousness. And there's a reason that this particular sin made the top ten of God's commandments.

You got hedge fund managers making literally a billion dollars a year and you don't think they are greedy?
But a union car guy making 30 bucks an hour is greed extraordinaire eh?
Who are you to say what is greedy for the working man, when all around him are people making hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars and not work near as hard as the working man.

You are fucking crazy.

What's preventing union car guy to be hedge fund manager? If only he could...

To be clear, it's not greed if union guy earns his money using his skills. When poor union car guy is using union to extort business to pay him more then his skill is worth, that's greed.

If hedge fund manager makes billion a year and doesn't beat the market, I would say he's doing shitty job.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Hey you see where it says available for 2015 fuckstick??

2015 Dodge Viper ACR Concept
Posted on 10.28.2014 12:00 by Ciprian Florea +

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The Viper ACR (American Club Racing) model was introduced in 1999, three years into the second generation of the sports car. Available only as a coupe, the ACR received a host of aerodynamic and mechanical enhancements developed for the track. A revised front bumper, a vented hood and a fixed rear wing were the main body highlights, while a stiffer, adjustable suspension improved its handling. Likewise, the 8.0-liter V-10 of the second-gen Viper had its output increased by 10 ponies to 460 horsepower for the ACR. Curb weight was reduced by more than 50 pounds. The third-gen Viper didn’t offer an ACR version, but the track-ready sports car returned in 2008 with even more updates. But unlike its predecessor, the new ACR didn’t have any engine modifications as the 8.4-liter V-10 kept its stock 600 horsepower and 560 pound-feet of torque. In 2011, a 2010 Viper ACR lapped the Nurburgring track in 7 minutes, 12.13 seconds. The sports car remains the sixth fastest production car on the "Green Hell" as of 2014. The 2010 model year was the last year for the ACR, but as we approach 2015, Dodge is showcasing an ACR Concept based on the fifth-generation model at the SEMA Show.

Could this mean the track-spec Viper is returning after a four-year absence? Dodge has yet to confirm it, but the concept car looks very familiar and ready to hit the assembly line. Check out the details after the jump as we wait for Chrysler to release more photos of the new ACR.


Hey stupid fuck, can you read production ............

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

2015 Ferrari FF $295,000
2014 Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe $433,550
2015 Lamborghini Aventador $548,800
2015 Porsche 918 Spyder $929,000
2016 Bentley Mulsanne $335,600

Even America's best cars don't even remotely compare to European high performance crafted cars. And American auto workers aren't going to be paid the same as European auto workers because their product is not as lucrative, nor the skill required to design and manufacture them as rare.

You Leftists will always be on the wrong side of supply and demand because all you can do is demand.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Specifications:
Year:2015
Make:Dodge
Model:Viper
price:$ 100000 (Est.)
0-60 time:3.3 sec. (Est.)
Top Speed:206 mph (Est.)
The Dodge Viper - or is it SRT Viper - hasn’t exploded the way Dodge had hoped for. The hype and attention being thrown in the direction of the Charger and Challenger Hellcat models hasn’t helped the Viper win any brownie points either. It’s a shame because the Viper’s a really intense sports car. Fortunately, Dodge has thrown the Viper a bone of sorts by introducing a special Viper GTS Ceramic Blue Edition that should give the sports car the shine it deserves.

The Viper GTS Ceramic Blue Edition is limited to just 40 units. It’s probably going to sell out quickly given its exclusive status. But merely being ‘exclusive’ isn’t what makes this model special.
Hey faggot boy, only 40 of these were produced, at a plant on an assembly line, do they qualify as production vehicles??

 

[sealybobo]

When it comes to American Workers, it's... 'VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!' for me. It's time for them to fight back. Time for American Helots to rise.

If you just want to bitch and complain hey feel free to start your own company and stop mooching off stockholders.

Sorry, but you can't have your slaves. American Workers are on the rise once again. And good for them. People like you have been shitting on them for years. It's about time they start catching some breaks.

Cut the slave shit

Anyone is free to leave a job where they don't think that are paid enough or treated well enough

If you want a better life get off your lazy whining fucking ass and make it better yourself instead of demanding that other people do it for you

Why dont mexicans do that in mexico? Oh yea because there arent any good jobs in mexico.

This is starting to happen in america. The young college educated kids working for less and ford jobs are now walmart jobs. Good luck getting into ford but walmarts hiring.

Well of course, greedy little bitches like you pushed the unions for higher wages and got them ......................

This was all fine and well till that labor charge shot the price of the automobiles so high that they were no longer competitive in the world market ..............

Yes, greed driven by the unions, bit them in their own ass ................

Priced themselves right out of the fucking market moron .......................

Nonsense. Bush causing a recession is why people werent buying cars.

 

[zeke]

only 40 of these were produced, at a plant on an assembly line, do they qualify as production vehicles??

Stupid cocksucker you are you think 40 is a production run. What kind of stupid mother fucker are you.
You really think you are on to something don't ya sport? LMAO. Stupid fucker that you are.

Even America's best cars don't even remotely compare to European high performance crafted cars.

hey doomy, he's thinking all those cars you love, they suck he says. Comparatively speaking. Of course the ones he likes only cost 3,4,5 times more. But who the fuck knows where you assholes are going with this highend car shit.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Well Zeke you were the one who made the statement that there were no $100,000 production American automobiles.

I simply made a liar out of you .............

Yes you have no idea where this conversation is headed with high end cars. those were american made productions cars that were valued at between $100,00 and $200,00.

I believe your little childish faggot ass isn't capable of remembering all the lies you spout, thus unable to follow this conversation ..................

 

[thereisnospoon]

If you just want to bitch and complain hey feel free to start your own company and stop mooching off stockholders.

Sorry, but you can't have your slaves. American Workers are on the rise once again. And good for them. People like you have been shitting on them for years. It's about time they start catching some breaks.

Cut the slave shit

Anyone is free to leave a job where they don't think that are paid enough or treated well enough

If you want a better life get off your lazy whining fucking ass and make it better yourself instead of demanding that other people do it for you

Why dont mexicans do that in mexico? Oh yea because there arent any good jobs in mexico.

This is starting to happen in america. The young college educated kids working for less and ford jobs are now walmart jobs. Good luck getting into ford but walmarts hiring.

Well of course, greedy little bitches like you pushed the unions for higher wages and got them ......................

This was all fine and well till that labor charge shot the price of the automobiles so high that they were no longer competitive in the world market ..............

Yes, greed driven by the unions, bit them in their own ass ................

Priced themselves right out of the fucking market moron .......................

Nonsense. Bush causing a recession is why people werent buying cars.

Oh please....
First...Blaming Bush is not longer permitted.
Second, American auto manufacturers have been falling behind both European and Asian makes for over a decade.
The only prize on which US auto makers continue to hold is the Ford F-150 being the most popular and best selling Pick Up truck in the US...
Other than that, foreign models are generally better built, more reliable, get better fuel economy, are equipped with more features in base models, come with superior manufacturers warranties and perform better....

 

[MaryL]

Economics 101.When minimum wage goes up, so do baseline prices in the area, so it solves nothing and contributes to a cost of living/wages spiral. All it does is cause a meaningless illusion....

 

[thereisnospoon]

This was all fine and well till that labor charge shot the price of the automobiles so high that they were no longer competitive in the world market ...........

If you weren't so fucking stupid, you might understand what I am about to write.

Poor design, poor gas mileage and poor quality is what hurt the American automobile companies
The poor design is on management. The poor gas mileage is on management. And the poor quality is shared between the union membership and management.

This fucking bullshit you spread that it's all on the unions is bullshit.

What's the matter? You wanted some sort of union job once and couldn't get it?

You fucking don't like unions in politics? To fucking bad. You got your corporations fully funding the politicians you like. And people like me have the unions as a counterpoint. Funding politicians who aren't JUST looking out for the big money players.

You don't like that? Too fucking bad, it;'s the way it is.

Here's your downfall. The fact that unions now make up just under 7% of the total private sector workforce.
Unions had their purpose. Now it is time for them to step aside.
No business wants to deal with unions. They are a thing of the past.
The Machinist's Union has been trying to organize some of the workers in the Boeing plant in Charleston, SC for quite some time.
The workers want nothing to do with the union. In order to get a vote, the Machinist's union had to go to the government to get help from the Left wing NLRB.
The union vote will fail. The union will cry foul. They will claim the vote was fixed and go pissing their pants to court with a lawsuit.
In the end, they will fail.
Even if the union wins, they lose. Wanna know why? All the company has to do is drag out the process until all the people that voted for the union are transferred, quit or get fired.
Unions no longer have the clout they used to.

 

[thereisnospoon]

This was all fine and well till that labor charge shot the price of the automobiles so high that they were no longer competitive in the world market ...........

If you weren't so fucking stupid, you might understand what I am about to write.

Poor design, poor gas mileage and poor quality is what hurt the American automobile companies
The poor design is on management. The poor gas mileage is on management. And the poor quality is shared between the union membership and management.

This fucking bullshit you spread that it's all on the unions is bullshit.

What's the matter? You wanted some sort of union job once and couldn't get it?

You fucking don't like unions in politics? To fucking bad. You got your corporations fully funding the politicians you like. And people like me have the unions as a counterpoint. Funding politicians who aren't JUST looking out for the big money players.

You don't like that? Too fucking bad, it;'s the way it is.

You're a one trick pony and your trick isn't even that good. Anyone who criticizes unions is just jealous that they didn't get a union job? It's just logic that you can only pay so much for labor before you're no longer competitive with the global market. People bought Hondas in the 1980's because GM's and Fords were too expensive. It's that simple. And while American workers were whining about wages, Japanese workers were grateful to have a steady job and didn't act like spoiled brats demanding more and more. You can try to rewrite history, but you can't change the fact that unions distort the market by artificially setting wages well beyond what the market can reasonably support.

Hondas at least back then were far better quality automobiles....

 

[thereisnospoon]

To say that won't effect prices drastically is ridiculous

Fucking horseshit. 4.7% if the workers in the country get paid MW.

According to weird people like you and the dr, they (MW workers) are simply the most powerful workers in the world. Able to completely fuck up our entire economy because they get a modest increase in their wages.

All commodity prices will rise cause the demand will be so great from those 9 dollar an hour workers.

Housing will go through the roof because all those 9 buck an hour workers are buying up all the houses.

Interest rates will have to rise as the borrowing of 9 dollar an hour workers increase.

Food costs, through the roof.

Right skull. All the POWER those 4,7% of the workforce have. Most never graduated college. But they have power extraordinaire. Able to completely destroy the economy.

Do you people really believe the stupid bullshit you write? Why don't you at LEAST have some PROOF to post up.. Because you know what? Minimum wages have been raised in the past.

Did you fail when the last increase in MW took place skull. Did your business go under. Were you forced to take on 5 jobs to survive? LMAO.

Most MW workers are employed by small to medium sized service or retail businesses where labor rates are directly factored into pricing.
So yes, the artificial increase in labor costs will be reflected in the price of the goods or services.....
Do you really think that the owner of a fast food , convenience store, bowling center, skating rink, etc is NOT going to pass the additional labor cost along to the consumer?
Please.
You union thugs are transparent. It is well known that union scale and union contract wages are indexed to the local minimum wage. So an increase in the min wage is a pay raise for the union workers. Nice fucking try.

 

[thereisnospoon]

You can try to rewrite history, but you can't change the fact that unions distort the market by artificially setting wages well beyond what the market can reasonably support.

I'll tell you who makes to much money and drives up the cost of goods. Fucking truck drivers. Why the hell should you make 25 bucks (50k by 52 by 40) an hour for sitting on your ass driving? You think you are worth 25 bucks an hour? Why. The price of the goods you haul could be a lot less if you were not making so much damn money. That your job isn't even worth?

My hope for you is that some company you haul for will do exactly what they should do for the economy. Cut your earnings.
Cause the negative effect on the economy is just to much. You are way overpaid for what you do. I drove a truck. Whoop de shit. Ain't worth 25 bucks an hour.

Don't forget to thank a Teamster for the pay you get. They are the ones forced the wage scale up to the point you could make 50k.

Oh look the little faggot who is out on his soap box for higher minimum wage and union support is offended by a well paid non union truck driver.

What a fucking shit storm of hypocrisy, fucking faggot !!

Dick in mouth forgets that most company truck drivers in the northeast and midwest are unionized...The hypocrisy never stops.

 

[sealybobo]

If you just want to bitch and complain hey feel free to start your own company and stop mooching off stockholders.

Sorry, but you can't have your slaves. American Workers are on the rise once again. And good for them. People like you have been shitting on them for years. It's about time they start catching some breaks.

Cut the slave shit

Anyone is free to leave a job where they don't think that are paid enough or treated well enough

If you want a better life get off your lazy whining fucking ass and make it better yourself instead of demanding that other people do it for you

Why dont mexicans do that in mexico? Oh yea because there arent any good jobs in mexico.

This is starting to happen in america. The young college educated kids working for less and ford jobs are now walmart jobs. Good luck getting into ford but walmarts hiring.

Well of course, greedy little bitches like you pushed the unions for higher wages and got them ......................

This was all fine and well till that labor charge shot the price of the automobiles so high that they were no longer competitive in the world market ..............

Yes, greed driven by the unions, bit them in their own ass ................

Priced themselves right out of the fucking market moron .......................

After destroying the manufacturing jobs in this country, and the private sector unions with them, the liberals simply created public sector government unions to fund their campaigns. If they need more money they just raise taxes, give the money to the government unions, which kick back part of the money to the liberal politicians. That's brilliant, except that the taxpayers get screwed.

AND I have no doubt the GOP establishment politicians would be using the exact same taxpayer funded scheme if given half the chance.

Its only money

Sorry, but you can't have your slaves. American Workers are on the rise once again. And good for them. People like you have been shitting on them for years. It's about time they start catching some breaks.

Cut the slave shit

Anyone is free to leave a job where they don't think that are paid enough or treated well enough

If you want a better life get off your lazy whining fucking ass and make it better yourself instead of demanding that other people do it for you

Why dont mexicans do that in mexico? Oh yea because there arent any good jobs in mexico.

This is starting to happen in america. The young college educated kids working for less and ford jobs are now walmart jobs. Good luck getting into ford but walmarts hiring.

Well of course, greedy little bitches like you pushed the unions for higher wages and got them ......................

This was all fine and well till that labor charge shot the price of the automobiles so high that they were no longer competitive in the world market ..............

Yes, greed driven by the unions, bit them in their own ass ................

Priced themselves right out of the fucking market moron .......................

Nonsense. Bush causing a recession is why people werent buying cars.

Oh please....
First...Blaming Bush is not longer permitted.
Second, American auto manufacturers have been falling behind both European and Asian makes for over a decade.
The only prize on which US auto makers continue to hold is the Ford F-150 being the most popular and best selling Pick Up truck in the US...
Other than that, foreign models are generally better built, more reliable, get better fuel economy, are equipped with more features in base models, come with superior manufacturers warranties and perform better....

And their breaks dont work or their airbags shoot shrapnal.

 

[sealybobo]

To say that won't effect prices drastically is ridiculous

Fucking horseshit. 4.7% if the workers in the country get paid MW.

According to weird people like you and the dr, they (MW workers) are simply the most powerful workers in the world. Able to completely fuck up our entire economy because they get a modest increase in their wages.

All commodity prices will rise cause the demand will be so great from those 9 dollar an hour workers.

Housing will go through the roof because all those 9 buck an hour workers are buying up all the houses.

Interest rates will have to rise as the borrowing of 9 dollar an hour workers increase.

Food costs, through the roof.

Right skull. All the POWER those 4,7% of the workforce have. Most never graduated college. But they have power extraordinaire. Able to completely destroy the economy.

Do you people really believe the stupid bullshit you write? Why don't you at LEAST have some PROOF to post up.. Because you know what? Minimum wages have been raised in the past.

Did you fail when the last increase in MW took place skull. Did your business go under. Were you forced to take on 5 jobs to survive? LMAO.

Most MW workers are employed by small to medium sized service or retail businesses where labor rates are directly factored into pricing.
So yes, the artificial increase in labor costs will be reflected in the price of the goods or services.....
Do you really think that the owner of a fast food , convenience store, bowling center, skating rink, etc is NOT going to pass the additional labor cost along to the consumer?
Please.
You union thugs are transparent. It is well known that union scale and union contract wages are indexed to the local minimum wage. So an increase in the min wage is a pay raise for the union workers. Nice fucking try.

Good! You guys should move to Asia and work.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Man would you look at what I found. This is a partial list of jobs to be filled at GM.
Look at the jobs paying above 100k.
And then the wages of the lowly production worker.

But wait. It's the unions fault their workers get paid well. Whose fault is it for paying non union workers so damn much. And why shouldn't the guys building the cars, supporting the 100k plus workers get paid well? Everybody else is. That's the fucking reason people want union jobs. They get paid better than non union jobs.

You fucks are dense.



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[+] Project Manager, Information Te

THat production worker wage is bullshit. The union scale is over $30 per hour not including benefits. Before GM was bailed out by the taxpayers via political fiat, the total compensation for a GM line worker was $71 per hour. That was GM's COST per worker.
From 2008...
UAW Workers Actually Cost the Big Three Automakers 70 an Hour
How much does an American auto worker make Bent Corner

 

[sealybobo]

Man would you look at what I found. This is a partial list of jobs to be filled at GM.
Look at the jobs paying above 100k.
And then the wages of the lowly production worker.

But wait. It's the unions fault their workers get paid well. Whose fault is it for paying non union workers so damn much. And why shouldn't the guys building the cars, supporting the 100k plus workers get paid well? Everybody else is. That's the fucking reason people want union jobs. They get paid better than non union jobs.

You fucks are dense.



[+] Operations Manager (3)
$48,088 - $125,932




[+] Operations Research Manager (2)
$113,530 - $187,246




[+] Packaging Engineer (12)
$42,485 - $90,511




[+] Performance Engineer (5)
$59,109 - $117,641




[+] Plant Superintendent (2)
$76,171 - $156,607




[+] Powertrain Control Systems & Software Engineer (2)
$74,776 - $113,828




[+] Process Engineer (6)
$55,739 - $105,513




[+] Product Design Engineer (3)
$76,612 - $135,916




[+] Product Development Engineer, Automotive (5)
$54,672 - $124,757




[+] Production Supervisor (5)
$37,577 - $88,951




[+] Production Worker (2)
$22,590 - $56,037




[+] Program Manager, IT (3)
$86,608 - $172,723




[+] Project Coordinator, (Unknown Type / General) (2)
$30,668 - $62,298




[+] Project Engineer (3)
$57,535 - $130,740




[+] Project Manager, Information Te

THat production worker wage is bullshit. The union scale is over $30 per hour not including benefits. Before GM was bailed out by the taxpayers via political fiat, the total compensation for a GM line worker was $71 per hour. That was GM's COST per worker.
From 2008...
UAW Workers Actually Cost the Big Three Automakers 70 an Hour
How much does an American auto worker make Bent Corner

Good! See how much the CEO costs every company?

 

[thereisnospoon]

. Btw, your number $25 an hour is based on 40 hours a week. Where does it say he or any truck driver works just 40 hours? Like he said, he's paid by the mile. If he wants more money, he just have to drive more.

You not only don't know much about anything. You know less about truck driving. Ask your driver friend how many hours he's allowed to drive. Something about safety and shit.

Or would you rather have a driver running on no sleep and little white speeders? So he could make a little bit more money.

US DOT regulations limit drivers to 11 hours per 24 hour period time in motion. 14 hours per 24 hour period of work time. 70 hours of total work time per week.
Most trucking companies use e- logs. There is a new federal law about to take effect that mandates all regulated carriers use electronic logs.
I can tell you this...There isn't a truck driver in the US that works 40 hours unless he or she is an Owner Operator that just feels like taking some time off during the work week. Or has to wait for a load.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Man would you look at what I found. This is a partial list of jobs to be filled at GM.
Look at the jobs paying above 100k.
And then the wages of the lowly production worker.

But wait. It's the unions fault their workers get paid well. Whose fault is it for paying non union workers so damn much. And why shouldn't the guys building the cars, supporting the 100k plus workers get paid well? Everybody else is. That's the fucking reason people want union jobs. They get paid better than non union jobs.

You fucks are dense.



[+] Operations Manager (3)
$48,088 - $125,932




[+] Operations Research Manager (2)
$113,530 - $187,246




[+] Packaging Engineer (12)
$42,485 - $90,511




[+] Performance Engineer (5)
$59,109 - $117,641




[+] Plant Superintendent (2)
$76,171 - $156,607




[+] Powertrain Control Systems & Software Engineer (2)
$74,776 - $113,828




[+] Process Engineer (6)
$55,739 - $105,513




[+] Product Design Engineer (3)
$76,612 - $135,916




[+] Product Development Engineer, Automotive (5)
$54,672 - $124,757




[+] Production Supervisor (5)
$37,577 - $88,951




[+] Production Worker (2)
$22,590 - $56,037




[+] Program Manager, IT (3)
$86,608 - $172,723




[+] Project Coordinator, (Unknown Type / General) (2)
$30,668 - $62,298




[+] Project Engineer (3)
$57,535 - $130,740




[+] Project Manager, Information Te

THat production worker wage is bullshit. The union scale is over $30 per hour not including benefits. Before GM was bailed out by the taxpayers via political fiat, the total compensation for a GM line worker was $71 per hour. That was GM's COST per worker.
From 2008...
UAW Workers Actually Cost the Big Three Automakers 70 an Hour
How much does an American auto worker make Bent Corner

Good! See how much the CEO costs every company?

Board members are not paid wages. Their earnings are tied to the value of the stock. The pay of these people does not come from the bottom line.
Look, if union labor were cost efficient and unions cooperative, there would be no argument.
The fact that non union labor is more productive and performs equally as well and in many cases is more productive than union labor, is the reason why unions are being run out of the equation.
Finally, you evaded the issue. That is the cost of union labor.