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[Seawytch]

They are not always cognizant memories, at times they are also suppressed. So much ado about your "first person eye-witness accounting" .

So...not a choice even if that were true...which it's not.



I'm not repulsed by or hate men. Sex with men was pleasant...below the waist.

"Sex with men was pleasant...below the waist." So actually seahag , whether you realize it or not, you've just betrayed a deep inner cause of your Dementia - possibly psychotic , possibly more deeply traumatic - The subliminal aspects of your Psyche fears Men - perhaps your early Childhood Trauma was not of a sexual nature , perhaps something else you experienced or witnessed , perhaps more than one instance imprinted on your impressionable young mind.



Violence ,or violent acting out by a male relative - it doesn't even have to be physically violent , just something that would generate fear within a pre-cognizant or semi-cognizant infant or Toddler could trigger a severe phobia directed at the Male sex, so much so that your inner defense mechanisms even generates a revulsion of the Male - face 2 face sex with men was not pleasant for you - but you still got your rocks off by the intercourse.



You sound like I girl a boinked b4 I got married - have we met b4 ?

yeah okay dime store psychologist. Much better than barracks lawyers.

I can "get my rocks off" on the spin cycle of the washer. I don't fall madly, deeply, wholly in love with it like I do women.

 

[Seawytch]

So I'm a troll, because in the process of conveing sound argument, I posed a series of queries, that required the contributor to respond by either, confirming or rejecting, the notion that she supports the normalization of the sexual abnormality which seeks gratification through sexual relations with children?



Those who may have wondered "What does Relativism actually look like?", the contribution to which I am responding is a first class example of it.



Folks this is so twisted, that I can barely find the stomach to even look at it anymore.



If an objective reader would like to re-consider the last 6 or 7 pages and offer their opinion on how my reading of this is, misguided of otherwise incorrect, I would sure appreciate the feedback.

Where_R_my_keys continues to affiliate our gay and lesbian Board members as pedophiles with the notion that she supports the normalization of the sexual abnormality which seeks gratification through sexual relations with children? Reported.



This is a rules violation, in my opinion.

Don't know if it's a rules violation or not - but the fact of the matter is that Gay Men are the number one molesters of Boys. Homosexual Men, who comprise less than 3% of the population are responsible for 30 to 35% of all pedophilia cases against Male Children.



Homosexual Men are a dangerous and devious lot and should not be left alone with young Children.

^^^^myth, not fact^^^^

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

"It's true because I say so!" is about all these pathetic and sad excuses for Human Beings have . I find it highly unlikely anyone is Born Gay There is no Gay Gene although homosexuals attempt to cling to half baked theories about hormone levels and etc... the fact remains that Gays are Made not Born

Homosexuality is the result of complex interaction between innate predispositions and environmental factors during childhood and early adolescence . In many cases the Homosexual was molested by another homosexual as a small child - Childhood traumatic experiences of which the person is cognizant of , as well as suppressed traumatic memories are key suspect factors.

You mean all those really good looking guys on the Gay Parade floats could bang any woman they want but choose not to? They are attracted to women, but would rather bang men?

How...quaint...

I'll tell ya what's quaint. Pretending to be a moderate, well balanced individual, professing to serve as surrogate to people who profess a proclivity toward sexual abnormality and all of the twisted baggage that comes with that. Setting infant children into desperately dangerous circumstances and when asked of their position regarding the movement to legalize the pursuit of children for sexual relations, being SO committed to children that she can't find the strength of character to PUBLICLY REJECT SO MUCH AS THE IDEA.

That's quaint ... at least in the sarcastic sense that you've used it.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

where_r_my_keys continues to affiliate our gay and lesbian board members as pedophiles with the notion that she supports the normalization of the sexual abnormality which seeks gratification through sexual relations with children? reported.



This is a rules violation, in my opinion.

don't know if it's a rules violation or not - but the fact of the matter is that gay men are the number one molesters of boys. homosexual men, who comprise less than 3% of the population are responsible for 30 to 35% of all pedophilia cases against male children.



Homosexual men are a dangerous and devious lot and should not be left alone with young children.

^^^^myth, not fact^^^^

facts about homosexuality and child molestation

Yet another appeal to the subjective advocacy, the purpose of which is to Deceitfully advance FRAUDULENCE as a means to influence the Ignorant. OKA:

>> SCIENCE ! ! <<​

Now for those who aren' familiar with the above cited drivel, allow me to provide you a telling excerpt this would-be authoritative tome, which has been in the ANSA Boilerplate inventory for many years:

"The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1
By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer &#8211; 9% of men and 6% of women &#8211; regarded most lesbians as child molesters."

The resident logicians will recognize it as little more than feckless populism.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

So I'm a troll, because in the process of conveing sound argument, I posed a series of queries, that required the contributor to respond by either, confirming or rejecting, the notion that she supports the normalization of the sexual abnormality which seeks gratification through sexual relations with children?

Those who may have wondered "What does Relativism actually look like?", the contribution to which I am responding is a first class example of it.

Folks this is so twisted, that I can barely find the stomach to even look at it anymore.

If an objective reader would like to re-consider the last 6 or 7 pages and offer their opinion on how my reading of this is, misguided of otherwise incorrect, I would sure appreciate the feedback.

Where_R_my_keys continues to affiliate our gay and lesbian Board members as pedophiles with the notion that she supports the normalization of the sexual abnormality which seeks gratification through sexual relations with children? Reported.

This is a rules violation, in my opinion.

Don't know if it's a rules violation or not - but the fact of the matter is that Gay Men are the number one molesters of Boys. Homosexual Men, who comprise less than 3% of the population are responsible for 30 to 35% of all pedophilia cases against Male Children.

Homosexual Men are a dangerous and devious lot and should not be left alone with young Children.

I would seriously doubt that the rules prohibit the posting of documented, incontrovertible fact, repeatedly, word for word as it occurred and drawing from that fact a soundly reasoned conclusion.

Beyond that sound logical construct, which provides for it to be unlikely, that the relevant contributor is asserting: 'it is true', the odds of probability provide that: 'it is not true'.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Prove it.

Been there - done that - many times.

Try checking out the link below, and its linked to studies and articles
if you're not a pre-programmed Big Brother Parrot incapable of Independent Thought Perhaps you'll get an Education.

Is Homosexuality a Disease


Class Dismissed - see you later .

When you can quote from a reputable source that has links to reputable sites, get back to me.

Dismissed...

To what sources are you referring?

Our own proponent of the legalization of adult pursuit of children for sexual gratification, has linked to a UCLA resource, which provided a thoroughly fallacious construct AS SCIENCE.

Would you care to point to any SPECIFIC failed points of reasoning in the article you have rejected out of hand?

(The Contributor will now NOT point of ANY SPECIFIC FAILED POINTS OF REASONING, as have not read the article and are CLUELESS on what a sound point of reason so much as LOOKS LIKE, let alone, what it's made of.

Don't believe me? KEWL! just wait and watch.)

 

[Jarlaxle]

Oh! Are you the only Homosexual playing house, as a modified LLC?

I had heard there were dozens of such. SO MANY, that the culture needed to be slammed on its ear so we could strip the nuclear core of the nation of any form of standard.

(Relativism << See how that works folks?

She's not advocating for anyone but her self and her most special friend, who enjoyed a nice reduction in federal liabilities, because of they recently incorporated.)

Deceit <=> FRAUD <=> Ignorance
>>> >> S O C I A L I S M << <<<​

Are you on drugs?

Hey! Now there's a snappy and oh SO original deflection.

OH! Now claim that I fear myself, you know: do the one where you assert that I contest the normalization of sexual abnormality because I internally fear that I too crave sexual gratification through sexual congress with those of my own gender, because, APPARENTLY, only THAT would cause someone to not recognize that which is abnormal as normal.

I LOVE that one.

You people really are all over this stuff, you've clearly given all of this a LOT of thought.

Does that babble make sense to you? If so...what drugs are you taking? If not...why did you post it?

 

[Jarlaxle]

I have raised three biological kids and put in some nightmare years in with an adopted one.

In that time, and with my grand children, my policy is that where my children are concerned, I am the supreme authority. I do not accept any government authority where my kids are concerned.

I made it clear to everyone, without exception to their affiliation, family, friend, employee or outer associations of same: Screw with my kids and you deal with me. And a perspective of me that most never knew.

There'd be no frantic calls to the Po-po, no crisis management with counselors. Just me, a hammer, chainsaw, shower curtain and a Bar-BQ. No bullshit, no cryin', no mercy.

Don't care who ya are, who ya were. Judgment is immediate and final.

I see 'stories' of kids being abused and I wonder, 'where in the HELL is their Father?".

If it was their Father, where in the hell is HIS FATHER?

Then, one day it occurred to me. That the Feminist Left has been at war with Fathers for 40 years.

And I suddenly realized: WHY!

Does that make me an extremist?

LOL! You bet your ass it does. And most who read this, have no idea what that even means. They 'feel' they do, but they're clueless.

IF they HAD a clue. They'd never allow themselves to even THINK of children and sex. 'Cause in my circles, I'M THE SOFTY! And we're E V E R Y W H E R E ! ! !

Translation: you're a psycho and need to be locked up forever.

Of course I'm a psycho. I must be, because I have absolutely no tolerance for people who assault the innocence of a child.

Do ya see how it works folks?

They have a right to murder their children, so it naturally follows that they have a right to pursue children for sexual gratification.

That it's YOUR CHILDREN, is irrelevant. THEY are the center of the universe and their needs come first.

And anyone who disagrees and will shut them DOWN the instant that word comes that they've done so to the 'shutter-downers' children, is therefore, relatively speaking, A PSYCHO!

(If that doesn't quite make sense to you, please consider the 'relativist' point of view. Wherein popular culture determines normality, through legality. Therefore, those who do not adhere to popular decree, are mentally disturbed.

I know, I know, that's crazy. I'm just tryin' to explain the perspective of the addle minded fools who adhere to relativism.

This is why the qualify EVERYTHING in terms of LEGAL and Legally. In their mind they SIMULTANEOUSLY 'feel' that what IS Legal is MORALLY sound and what WAS LEGAL was not.

Yes, they're insane. But that's only in reality and has NOTHING to do with the perspective of the militant homo-cult OKA: the Socialist, who, FTR>> Are presently working to LEGALIZE adult/child sexual relations.)

You need to be locked up...in a straitjacket, in a padded cell with the door welded closed, in the highest-security wing of a maximum-security mental ward. You are absolutely batshit insane.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Thank you for your concern, but all parties involved were and remain HIV negative.

I was a surrogate for a gay male couple. Donated eggs, their sperm, my womb three kids for them.

The surrogate fathers are not the father of my children.

Honestly, all that makes gay marriage look worse. Children shouldn't be bred like lab rats.

Well of course not. But just as the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality is an illegitimate movement, the use of surrogacy to provide children to be raised by the Homosexual lobby is likewise, illegitimate.

This being so, as such is little more than a means to recruit more advocates, as they drive the culture toward accepting sexual abnormality as sexual normality, thus pushing the culture toward its doom.

To an absolute certainty, most of those children will be sexually abused, as it is the nature of the sexually abnormal to eschew cultural taboos against such and even in this very thread, we have seen one of our in-house advocate, herself a professed surrogate, providing children to the sexually abnormal, promote other abnormalities, wherein She stated in no uncertain terms, that where she felt that a child, or chicken were capable of consenting and had so consented to sexual a relationship with an adult, she would readily accept such.

So, this discussion, as most do, is providing us with a wonderful insight into the depths of the abyss known as "The Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality" and it is NOT PRETTY.

On a side note:

Barb, sweety, please read and response to the queries I provided for your consideration.

Inquiring minds wanna know: "How's Barb feelin' abot this?"

What a perfect example of five-dollar words from a five-cent mind!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Oh the Homosexual affiliation with the would-be discipline of human sexuality began 50 years prior to the 70s.

Alfred Kinsey, (Kinsey Institute) was a leading Eugenicist, and a homosexual, who 'studied' human sexuality. He focused his 'studies' on the sexuality of children.

The Kinsey Institute is largely responsible for the SCIENCE! which is leading the APA toward the understanding that some children may actually benefit from adult/child sexual relations.

It's Evil on an unimaginable scale.

Wow. I did not know that. Thanks for sharing. It's nice to know where things start and where they're heading. Especially when those things are becoming a matter of law...

And the lies of the losers on the psychotic far right continue.

Sorry, Fakey, but Silly is not far-right!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Nasty Shit? Is there a non-nasty variant?

Huh... So this wasn't you?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...tops-gay-marriage-in-utah-51.html#post8514965

Sure looks like you... Cinemax Carpet Munchers canoodling in the avatar, just like your exquisite little divers.

Would you care to rescind and revise your position?

The query posed the looming certainty that "SCIENCE!" (The deceitful politicized farce which FRAUDULENTLY establishes itself as a scientific authority as a means to influence the Ignorant, NEVER to be confused with 'science') has already asserted that 'adult/child sexual relationships can actually benefit some children' in a white paper published by the APA some years ago, but was forced to retract, when the 'study' came under a PHALANX of public criticism, congress censured it and the research was soundly discredited by sexually normal, objective psychologists around the world.

But that didn't stop them, as the APA and the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality is STILL pushing hard to establish Pedophilia is a 'sexual orientation', as a means of decriminalizing the deviancy, as it did for homosexuality, again all toward making it "LEGAL".

Part and parcel of the effort is found in the Education profession wherein they are now 'teaching' 8 year olds about every facet of sexual behavior. This as a means to 'educate' minor children in matters sexual, so that these children can be aware of the processes common to the behavior and the consequences stemming from such.

It becomes clear that 'the push' is international, wicked and designed to provide children with the means to make 'informed decisions' in matters of sexuality, so that such will be rationalized as children being 'cognizant' of the processes and consequences of sexuality, thus making them capable of making 'informed consent for sexual relationships with adults', AGAIN so as to provide the means to MAKE ADULT/CHILD SEX: "LEGAL".

And while the original query initially focused upon bestiality, which you agreed you'd endorse where "SCIENCE!" provided assurances that sub-species could consent to such, leaving the reader to conclude that if you endorse the flogging of animals, there would be no basis for you to reject the same for humans at an early stage of development; given the facts, the question simply asks:

IF (when) "SCIENCE!" declares that children are capable of consenting to sexual relationships with adults, will you advocate to change the laws to accommodate the sexually abnormal who will, as a result, use the change in the law to pursue minor children for the purpose of sexual graitification?​

If not, why not?

If so, why so?

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The SILENCE, is DEAFENING!​

I was speaking only of adult chickens and pigs, not children. Knock off the bullshit if you wish to continue to engage.

WOW!

I guess that is all any objective observer needs to know about where about where the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality stands. Their intention is to "LEGALIZE" the sexual pursuit of children.

Does anyone need anything else?

No, that's another LIE.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Now Barb, just to help you through this, I am going to offer this soundly reasoned hypothesis:

Nature established the biological >Standard< in the innate design of the species.

This, reason suggests, is a function of providing for the biological imperative to propagate, thus to provide for the survival of the species through sustainable procreation.

Meaning that Skins pursue Shirts and, Outies merge with Innies.

Now, given that standard, we can be sure that where an example deviates from that standard, that the deviancy will either exceed the performance of the standard, or fail to rise to the performance of the standard.

So we've two choices here, as I see it and you're welcome to disagree, but the question now comes: Does homosexuality exceed the biological standard, or does it fail to rise to this natural qualifying threshold?

What say you, Barb?​

The world's procreation passed "sustainable" levels before I was born.
There is plenty of evidence in nature to suggest that your idea of an ideal "standard" is subjective, at best.
Your question within those "choices," framed by at least one faulty premise, are therefore illegitimate.

Thank you Barb. But I've got some serious thinking to do.

It appears that we have a tacit confession of serial pedophilia here.

This is NOT GOOD and I think 'shit just got real'.

Damn, you're dumb as a rock.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Trust me Barb, ignore is your friend. He's not interested in debate, just trolling.

He's a bit like Silly....a human spambot.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Six posts and not a single soundly reasoned perspective in the entire batch.

Tell ya what. I'm new here and I don't like to misjudge people, on first impressions.

So let's do this. If you're able, see if there's something I've said that you would like to either join or contest, through something akin to valid reasoning.

Otherwise, your GONE!

Last chance, Cupcake.

(Folks, notice how they're incapable of objectivity on ANYTHING. They're purely concerned with what they 'feel' at any given moment.

Which topically, is why they represent such a threat to children. She could be ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that she's totally against having sex with kids one minute and the next see something she feels is cute and be back from the store with a pocket full of lollies and roofies ten minutes later, offering to baby sit. )

 

[Jarlaxle]

Self diagnosis doesn't count in the legal arena. Check the title of the thread dear. Now check my signature. When children's welfare is at stake, we're going to need a little more proof in court than "It's true because I say so!"

I chose.

Like everyone else on the planet who's engaged in the sufficient outings relevant to the pharmaceutical arts, I've had flashes of desire for people of my own gender.

Speak for yourself.

You know how it is, you're sittin' around with your buds, likely celebrating another Tuesday, or some victory and there's back slappin' and glad handin' over whatever conquest had been achieved and there, out of nowhere comes that flicker of whatever it is that induces the hots.

Nope, that's just you...though I'm not at all surprised: the most rabid homophobes are usually closet homosexuals or bisexuals.

I don't give a dam' who ya are, if ya hang it out there far enough, long enough, its gonna happen where there are intense emotional relationships and enough dope, because that's the nature of gettin' hammered and screwin' with chemicals around people that ya really enjoy, like and love... assuming you're a being that operates on bio-chemical processes, of course.

Now when that happened, I CHOSE to not pursue that ERRANT INSTINCT.

I suppose for the females, sitting around with their besties, late into the evening that the same thing occurs. Given enough wine and cheese, and coke.

So yeah, I CHOSE... I made the choice to NOT pursue a hormonal induced foolishness.

I've long ago turned from the pursuit of happiness through modern chemistry. Few positives came out of it and as time passed it got harder and harder to get up and stay up. So after years of screwin' up I CHOSE to not ingest massive doses of crap that promised to make me feel better and LIED EVERY FREAKIN' TIME!

Does that make me a bad person?

Or should I have gone ahead and tongue kissed old Jimmer, towards the HOPE of obtaining that rarest of all pretenses: Normality gained through abnormal behavior?

Dude...you desperately need to see a shrink!

 

[Jarlaxle]

yeah okay dime store psychologist. Much better than barracks lawyers.

I can "get my rocks off" on the spin cycle of the washer. I don't fall madly, deeply, wholly in love with it like I do women.

Thank you, I now blame you for my cat clawing me!

Upon reading that, I spit water all over my cat!

My wife's input on that: "I must admit, I am not certain how she does it, but it sounds interesting."

 

[Jarlaxle]

Six posts and not a single soundly reasoned perspective in the entire batch.

Tell ya what. I'm new here and I don't like to misjudge people, on first impressions.

So let's do this. If you're able, see if there's something I've said that you would like to either join or contest, through something akin to valid reasoning.

Otherwise, your GONE!

Last chance, Cupcake.

(Folks, notice how they're incapable of objectivity on ANYTHING. They're purely concerned with what they 'feel' at any given moment.

Which topically, is why they represent such a threat to children. She could be ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that she's totally against having sex with kids one minute and the next see something she feels is cute and be back from the store with a pocket full of lollies and roofies ten minutes later, offering to baby sit. )

Dude, I'm just laughing at you. You're a bit like the idiots from the WBC, except much more cowardly about it!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Wow. I did not know that. Thanks for sharing. It's nice to know where things start and where they're heading. Especially when those things are becoming a matter of law...

And the lies of the losers on the psychotic far right continue.

Sorry, Fakey, but Silly is not far-right!

Her cult homosexual predator crap is far right loony tunes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Where_R_my_keys continues to affiliate our gay and lesbian Board members as pedophiles with the notion that she supports the normalization of the sexual abnormality which seeks gratification through sexual relations with children? Reported.

This is a rules violation, in my opinion.

Don't know if it's a rules violation or not - but the fact of the matter is that Gay Men are the number one molesters of Boys. Homosexual Men, who comprise less than 3% of the population are responsible for 30 to 35% of all pedophilia cases against Male Children.

Homosexual Men are a dangerous and devious lot and should not be left alone with young Children.

I would seriously doubt that the rules prohibit the posting of documented, incontrovertible fact, repeatedly, word for word as it occurred and drawing from that fact a soundly reasoned conclusion.

Beyond that sound logical construct, which provides for it to be unlikely, that the relevant contributor is asserting: 'it is true', the odds of probability provide that: 'it is not true'.

That is merely your opinion, and you should take heed of your counsel.

 

[JakeStarkey]

don't know if it's a rules violation or not - but the fact of the matter is that gay men are the number one molesters of boys. homosexual men, who comprise less than 3% of the population are responsible for 30 to 35% of all pedophilia cases against male children.

Homosexual men are a dangerous and devious lot and should not be left alone with young children.

^^^^myth, not fact^^^^

facts about homosexuality and child molestation

Yet another appeal to the subjective advocacy, the purpose of which is to Deceitfully advance FRAUDULENCE as a means to influence the Ignorant. OKA:

>> SCIENCE ! ! <<​

Now for those who aren' familiar with the above cited drivel, allow me to provide you a telling excerpt this would-be authoritative tome, which has been in the ANSA Boilerplate inventory for many years:

"The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1
By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters."

The resident logicians will recognize it as little more than feckless populism.

facts about homosexuality and child molestation

And the crazy myth making continues.