Breaking. Prop 8.... struck down.

Homosexuals still have "the right" to get married to each other by any church willing to perform the marriage. This "ban" doesn't change that in the slightest.

I don't believe that is true. In most states, if not all, you need a marriage license to get married, which is another encroachment of government that needs to be gotten rid of. We shouldn't need government permission to be married.

That is false. I've been going to gay weddings for decades. The marriage ceremony by a religious or any other institution is a ceremonial rite, unregulated by government. If you want to take advantage of the state and federal benefits extended to married couples, you need to apply for a marriage license in order to have your ceremonial rite recognized. Right now, the federal government only recognizes ceremonial rites performed between men and women. Gays want the same benefits extended to them when they have their ceremonial rites. Why should they be denied?
 
For the most part it is a choice.

You choose to smoke and it becomes a habit.

Same thing with being gay.

Some, however, don't know what sex they're supposed to be.

Transgenders catch hell in the gay community. Did you know that?


Who told you that? A bunch of gay people or a bunch of straight people?

Fact is, you don't really know if being gay is a choice. So why would you listen to a bunch of straight people rather than gay people? Because straight people know everything about being gay, even more so than gay people?
 
For the most part it is a choice.

You choose to smoke and it becomes a habit.

Same thing with being gay.

Some, however, don't know what sex they're supposed to be.

Transgenders catch hell in the gay community. Did you know that?


Who told you that? A bunch of gay people or a bunch of straight people?

Fact is, you don't really know if being gay is a choice. So why would you listen to a bunch of straight people rather than gay people? Because straight people know everything about being gay, even more so than gay people?



Well, judging by many posters here, they certainly think about gay sex a lot more than we do. Just sayin' :eusa_whistle:
 
For the most part it is a choice.

You choose to smoke and it becomes a habit.

Same thing with being gay.

Some, however, don't know what sex they're supposed to be.

Transgenders catch hell in the gay community. Did you know that?


Who told you that? A bunch of gay people or a bunch of straight people?

Fact is, you don't really know if being gay is a choice. So why would you listen to a bunch of straight people rather than gay people? Because straight people know everything about being gay, even more so than gay people?



Well, judging by many posters here, they certainly think about gay sex a lot more than we do. Just sayin' :eusa_whistle:

:lol:

Have you noticed? Especially Asswarrior102........

:lol:
 
Who told you that? A bunch of gay people or a bunch of straight people?

Fact is, you don't really know if being gay is a choice. So why would you listen to a bunch of straight people rather than gay people? Because straight people know everything about being gay, even more so than gay people?



Well, judging by many posters here, they certainly think about gay sex a lot more than we do. Just sayin' :eusa_whistle:

:lol:

Have you noticed? Especially Asswarrior102........

:lol:

Oh.......he's not the only one........:eusa_whistle:
 
They are equal. procreation is not a prerequisit for equality except for in the eyes of the bigots looking for an excuse for self-deluded superiority.

Procreation is the reason the institution of marriage exist. No amount of mindless blather about civil rights and "equality" is going to change that.
Only according to the church, but we aren't discussing a religious sanctioned marriage. Were're talking about a civil procedure. The reason states became involved in marriage has nothing to do with procreation but rather to protect the parties from disease or improper/illegal marriages and to keep accurate state records.
 
They are equal. procreation is not a prerequisit for equality except for in the eyes of the bigots looking for an excuse for self-deluded superiority.

Procreation is the reason the institution of marriage exist. No amount of mindless blather about civil rights and "equality" is going to change that.

That statement was flat out stupid. C'mon, you're better than that.
 
They are equal. procreation is not a prerequisit for equality except for in the eyes of the bigots looking for an excuse for self-deluded superiority.

Procreation is the reason the institution of marriage exist. No amount of mindless blather about civil rights and "equality" is going to change that.


The reason for the "institution of marriage" was to guarantee sexual rights, generally a man rights over a female. The male children of said sexual contact, were necessary to pass down property rights.


a bit outdated dont you think?
 
They are equal. procreation is not a prerequisit for equality except for in the eyes of the bigots looking for an excuse for self-deluded superiority.

Procreation is the reason the institution of marriage exist. No amount of mindless blather about civil rights and "equality" is going to change that.

So, if one cannot procreate, they are not allowed to legally marry. That is, in your world.


Damn... all those sterile men are in deep shit now. And i guess vasectomy is off the table.
 
Homosexuals still have "the right" to get married to each other by any church willing to perform the marriage. This "ban" doesn't change that in the slightest.

I don't believe that is true. In most states, if not all, you need a marriage license to get married, which is another encroachment of government that needs to be gotten rid of. We shouldn't need government permission to be married.


Many protestant churches allow religious marriages.

As i have said before... a religious marriage MEANS jack shit in the eyes of the law. A religious marriage is a feel good ceremony for the participants... that their marriage is recognized in the eyes of god.....


As anyone who has ever gotten married in the chruch knows... you still have to get a civil license too.


The ONLY thing that matters is a civil license. That is what makes it legal and binding.... and recognized in the eyes of the law.
 
If they let them get married, will they finally shut the fuck up and stop the freaking half naked parades?

Nope.
 
If they let them get married, will they finally shut the fuck up and stop the freaking half naked parades?

Nope.

If we let the damn micks participate in the political process will they stop the freaking drunken parades?

Nope.
 
They are equal. procreation is not a prerequisit for equality except for in the eyes of the bigots looking for an excuse for self-deluded superiority.

Procreation is the reason the institution of marriage exist. No amount of mindless blather about civil rights and "equality" is going to change that.


The reason for the "institution of marriage" was to guarantee sexual rights, generally a man rights over a female. The male children of said sexual contact, were necessary to pass down property rights.


a bit outdated dont you think?

Not yet. When the state confiscates the entire estate of a decedent and there is no such thing as an heir, yes it will be outdated.

Until then, we will have to make do with forcing men to support their chidren against the will of such men who would like to pass the obligation of support to the state.
 
If they let them get married, will they finally shut the fuck up and stop the freaking half naked parades?

Nope.


:lol::lol::lol: Amen to that one.
A large law firm that is a client of mine in downtown Atlanta has a few attorneys that I work for that are gay and lesbian. One of them I have been working with for over 20 years.
I tease him as he is early 60s and tell him he needs to go march with his friends and he knows I am just kidding him. It even upsets him the crudeness of the parade but he says he leaves early before all of that. He says the pride parade here is tame compared to SF.
A small % of them do crap like that just like the stuff I see straight men and women do in New Orleans.
 
If they let them get married, will they finally shut the fuck up and stop the freaking half naked parades?

Nope.

That's not a point of complaint. If you don't like it don't go. More to the point is will they stop forcing straight men, husbands and fathers to get half naked and participate in a gay parade against their will. That's what happened to several firefighters in San Diego. They were threatened with disciplinary action if they refused to shake their booty for the pleasure of gay men.
 

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