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Negroes use to vote just their welfare check and race. Now they also have added soft on crime and that is why the big city shitholes are going to hell.I wish your racist ass would jump to something.
To that, I pointed out that the AA practice of favoring blacks brings in the question as to whether the same would have happened to an Asian or white. It’s a valid question, considering there was a thread just a week ago in which an Asian kid with a perfect GPA and a 1560 SAT was rejected from ALL Ivy League universities.Shall we use the same argument you used to dimminish the accomplishments of the Black valedictorian who was accepted into all the Ivy League schools?
No, the six justices who ruled correctly went with the Constitution. The three women who dissented went with their feeeeeelings.
Your perception of who are not the activists and who are the Constitutionalists is completely upside down.No, activist judges. All six of them testified under oath at their conformation hearings, that they stood by stare decisis.
That also makes them perjurers.
But more importantly, they have now drawn first blood, and set the precedent, that any law near and dear to conservatives, that is considered settled, is now null and void.
The day is coming in the not so distant future, that those precious settled conservative rights you consider settled, are now in jeopardy.
Hope your feeeelings aren't hurt to bad when those rulings come.
That's all fine and dandy. Nice history lesson.Hmmm, I came up through the public school system, my wife came up through the public school system, my children came up through the public school system and we can all read, write and do basic math and damn we ALL hold college degrees. Pretty throws out your weak theory. I am pretty sure most of you clowns on this thread came up through the public school system as well.
Go for it!Do the same thing for Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi.
What value is diversity if it discriminates against somebody else?
What value is a degree if anybody with enough money and connections or for no other reason than his/her skin color can earn one?
And what does it do to a person's self esteem and/or opportunities to not be able to succeed in college and wash out or quit? Latest studies show that white students are 2-1/2 times more likely to graduate college than black students. Asian students graduate at a much higher rate than white students.
Shouldn't college admissions be awarded to those most likely to succeed?
Who do you want as your heart surgeon? The person, white, black, Asian or whatever who graduated at the top of his/her class? Or the affirmative action person who barely graduated and only did so by standards being lowered for him/her?
What value is diversity? Employers value it, that is one thing. Beyond that, it adds value for the students who encounter people from different backgrounds, experiences etc. (not just racial). It encourages new of thinking and problem solving as well as a greater understanding of other people’s backgrounds. If you want to get rid of racism that is one way to do it. Meet people. Work together to solve problems (such as an engineering task you given in a course). Collaborate.To achieve diversity via affirmative action requires lowering standards, encouraging mediocrity, encouraging failure. To achieve diversity by merit says the public schools are doing a quality job of education for all students.
We should stop all the social engineering crap that goes on in public schools, and devote time, resources, emphasis on pushing quality college prep courses in real subjects to all students who want that and give student inspiration and belief that they can master those subjects and qualify for quality higher education. That would be the very best thing government could do for any student including the black ones.
It’s always a “valid” question when you talk about Blacks.To that, I pointed out that the AA practice of favoring blacks brings in the question as to whether the same would have happened to an Asian or white. It’s a valid question, considering there was a thread just a week ago in which an Asian kid with a perfect GPA and a 1560 SAT was rejected from ALL Ivy League universities.
Yes, but it is a shame that they are such an exception. What can be done to remove the blight of black kids ridiculing other black kids who work hard and study? In fact, all kids are suffering with the Democrat-run school boards.Really, I see black kids graduating every year and going to college and they can read, write and are beyond basic math.
Yeah, change it back to a time when it had some sense.these MAGA justices are not out to win cases, they're out to change America.
Why are so eager to prove that blacks are incapable of intellectually competing with other races on a level field?Please, you don't want no damn colorblind society. You want to go back to the Good Ole Days, when you could be openly racist and not be checked on it. Whites have been favored over black folks since this country was taken and you know it.
He has lived his whole life privileged due to the color of his skin.Why are so eager to prove that blacks are incapable of competing with other races on a level field?
Probably his kids too.He has lived his whole life privileged due to the color of his skin.
He is pissed that the privilege he has come to expect as his due has now been taken away.
Hmmm, I came up through the public school system,
we can all read, write and do basic math and damn we ALL hold college degrees.
Nope.Pretty throws out your weak theory. I am pretty sure most of you clowns on this thread came up through the public school system as well.
That would be because black folks couldn't go to many white owned businesses, after integration we didn't want to go to black owned businesses anymore. We wanted to spend our money at white owned businesses, I trend that is still going on until this day.
What value is diversity? Employers value it, that is one thing.
Beyond that, it adds value for the students who encounter people from different backgrounds, experiences etc. (not just racial). It encourages new of thinking and problem solving as well as a greater understanding of other people’s backgrounds. If you want to get rid of racism that is one way to do it. Meet people. Work together to solve problems (such as an engineering task you given in a course). Collaborate.
Secondly, it isn’t a an either/or situation where if you have diversity you can’t also have merit. These elite schools have never selected based on test scores and GPA alone. They have to write an essay, they have a resume of activities to show they are well rounded or have shown leadership, and they have an in person interview. All of which counts towards the decision.
No one is admitted solely on skin color. And you also miss the point: earned.
You don’t earn a degree simply being accepted.
The reasons people don’t graduate aren’t necessarily because they can’t handle the academic rigor, there can be a number of reasons including financial.
However, in Harvard (and I’m using that as representative of these elite schools) the graduation rates by race are:
Asian. 97.67%
White. 97.17%
Hispanic 96.83%
Black 96.43%
That is barely any difference between races in terms of graduation rates. It sounds like admissions are being awarded to those most likely to succeed. And again, ALL of these young people admitted are going to be highly qualified regardless.
Why would you assume that your future heart surgeon barely graduated because of AA or because race/ethnicity/income status/first generation/gender may have been of of multiple factors in the admissions decision?
Just don't graduate retarded idiots who can't read. I don't care what color they are.And another note…why is it that people are ONLY upset about Black admissions and not any of these others I mentioned above? Not women, not Hispanics, not first generation…all the accusations about lack of merit are only directed only at Blacks (not saying that of you, but of what I see in thread after thread).
I made no assumptions. I asked a simple question that anybody could answer if they don't read more into it than the question itself.What value is diversity? Employers value it, that is one thing. Beyond that, it adds value for the students who encounter people from different backgrounds, experiences etc. (not just racial). It encourages new of thinking and problem solving as well as a greater understanding of other people’s backgrounds. If you want to get rid of racism that is one way to do it. Meet people. Work together to solve problems (such as an engineering task you given in a course). Collaborate.
Secondly, it isn’t a an either/or situation where if you have diversity you can’t also have merit. These elite schools have never selected based on test scores and GPA alone. They have to write an essay, they have a resume of activities to show they are well rounded or have shown leadership, and they have an in person interview. All of which counts towards the decision.
No one is admitted solely on skin color. And you also miss the point: earned.
You don’t earn a degree simply being accepted.
The reasons people don’t graduate aren’t necessarily because they can’t handle the academic rigor, there can be a number of reasons including financial.
However, in Harvard (and I’m using that as representative of these elite schools) the graduation rates by race are:
Asian. 97.67%
White. 97.17%
Hispanic 96.83%
Black 96.43%
That is barely any difference between races in terms of graduation rates. It sounds like admissions are being awarded to those most likely to succeed. And again, ALL of these young people admitted are going to be highly qualified regardless.
Why would you assume that your future heart surgeon barely graduated because of AA or because race/ethnicity/income status/first generation/gender may have been of of multiple factors in the admissions decision?
And another note…why is it that people are ONLY upset about Black admissions and not any of these others I mentioned above? Not women, not Hispanics, not first generation…all the accusations about lack of merit are only directed only at Blacks (not saying that of you, but of what I see in thread after thread).
He thinks that because of something that me and you had no part in, (but our ancestors may have had a part in), and because we are WHITE, then we are just an extension (guilty by heritage or genealogy), of our ancestors historic ideology or culture concerning black slavery in America..... He thinks that we have an ideology that believes that black's are an inferior people that need to be controlled by other humans or they'll go bat shite crazy far worse than they already are, otherwise when given a leash that is to long for them to handle.When we had great values - valuing hard work, obeying laws, becoming successful, being responsible, behaving appropriately, and not feeling entitled to other people’s momey.
And here you have it. The real reason those on the left think affirmative action is necessary. (This person is a university professor and Democrat operative/advocate):
