"Brownie....You're Doin' A Helluva Job"

[Pogo]

Are those guys standing in the water 32 feet tall then?

No. So the claim falls to the ground. Dumbass.

The Superdome was surrounded by flood waters making your claim that it was not a giant FAIL! Who's the real dumbass?

he first thing that happened was the roof was torn off and it was surrounded by 12 feet of water.

Twelve feet would have submerged all these cars, and the guys wading in TooFail's photo in nut-deep water would be completely invisible, even if one stood on the other's shoulders.

Learn to read, DUMBASS.

Read this dipsit and learn something.

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Exactly.

“You need to go take a look. There’s five feet of water on Poydras Street.” “Thornton and Mouton were walking away from the meeting when they heard a loud bang. They took off running to the concourse, and saw a nightmare come true – the roof in one section above the field had been torn off by the wind. Water poured onto the field.

“There was water pouring in every crevice,” Thornton said. “And we look up and see a metal beam, a massive beam, that had been windblown into the aluminum siding. This is 40 or 50 feet up in the air. And cars were overturned on Poydras Street.”

“You need to go take a look. There’s five feet of water on Poydras Street.”

“It looks like we can’t stop the levee breaches and we’re being told there could be as much as six to eight feet more of water,” Thornton recalls Compass saying.

“Well,” Thornton replied, “our generator has 10 inches to spare. We can’t spare 6 feet.”

On Wednesday morning, Mouton and Thornton checked the water first thing. It had barely risen at all – maybe an inch. The chief of police had been given bad information. On Wednesday morning, Mouton and Thornton checked the water first thing. It had barely risen at all – maybe an inch. The chief of police had been given bad information.”

So now you're copping out claiming you were "given bad information".....

Maybe you should just do yer fuckin' homework before spouting off on shit you know absolutely nothing about.

 

[Pogo]

There is no hills in New Orleans. The water did not exceed 4 feet at street level, except for the storm driven surge. The Super Bowl was about the only safe place to go. FEMA responded to the emergency with all the speed of a wounded snail. Very few boats were left above water in New Orleans, and it did not seem to occur to anyone to bring them in for a week or two after the flood. FEMA subbed out the flood damage adjustment duties to companies like Allstate, who missed 5 appointments with me over 2 months, before finally showing up after I copied my complaint to them to the LA Insurance commissioner. The people who saved our bacon was the National Guard, who gave out combat rations and pure water at the shopping centers every day, and the Red Cross, who not only immediately replaced all of my maintenance medication (without prescriptions) , but gave us clothing and money for food, while we were waiting to get back into the city, which had been closed. FEMA delivered my trailer 5 1/2 months after the flood. I told them to take it away. Later, it became known that those who lived in them for months were exposed to extreme levels of formaldehyde, which is toxic. When a hurricane hit Haiti, a year later, the US offered them to Haiti. Haiti turned them down. I, personally, became acutely aware of what it is like to live in a third world country. We felt that the USA government had about as much concern for our welfare as they did for Somalians. I can't prove it, but I thought that it seemed quite a coincidence that a city that always voted democratic did not seem to get much attention during a USA republican administration

I am amazed at how opinionated some people are about Katrina who were not withing 500 miles of it.

Yeah you rite!

Yo Vandal --- check out the storylog over here. This post would rock.

 

[Muhammed]

Remember Katrina and George W. Bush's totally unbelievable mishandling of the massive destruction and death in Louisiana, and Mississippi? I Do!

It wasn't as bad and irresponsible as Iraq but it was in the game.

I remember heading south with every chainsaw I owned.

 

[Rotagilla]

To use an analogy...it would be like someone crossing the desert with no gas in their tank and four bald tires complaining that it took way too long for AAA to respond to their frantic calls for help once they broke down!

Sssssomething like that ... understanding that the tires and the duty of keeping the tank full was the responsibility of the Army Corps of Engineers -- which is, this just in, not part of the city's administration.

Nothing like reading the thread history where all this has been spelled out and linked. Yesterday.

With all due respect, Pogo...the history of Federal monies that have been poured into New Orleans to improve the levies but ended up in some crooked local's pocket instead is so extensive that trying to list it would probably make this site crash! There is a REASON why Ray Nagin is sitting in a prison cell right now and it's not because he did a wonderful job with the millions of dollars that the Federal Government gave him to fix the levies.

nothing to do with why chocolate city ray is in prison.

 

[Faun]

Umm, the federal response did not require a personal appearance by Bush. Aid, food, and medical supplies would have sufficed. There was no excuse to take a week to get down there.

Only a submarine would have been able to deliver anything there until the water receded and the roads were made passable. I saw boats rescuing people and delivering water and food to stranded people in homes.

10 years later and righties are still making excuses. Brown's been fired for FEMA's horrible response, you can stop fluffing him now.

Everyone with more than half a brain knows that the clusterfuck was caused by the Governor not allowing Bush to federalize the rescue efforts. FEMA did everything they were allowed to do.

Lying rightie. When do you stop fluffing Bush? You know he's still not interested in you, right?

In reality, the governor begged Bush for federal help...

Blanco's State of Emergency letter to President Bush

Dear Mr. President:

Under the provisions of Section 501 (a) of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR § 206.35, I request that you declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period beginning August 26, 2005, and continuing. The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina.

In response to the situation I have taken appropriate action under State law and directed the execution of the State Emergency Plan on August 26, 2005 in accordance with Section 501 (a) of the Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in order to support the evacuations of the coastal areas in accordance with our State Evacuation Plan and the remainder of the state to support the State Special Needs and Sheltering Plan.

Pursuant to 44 CFR § 206.35, I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster. I am specifically requesting emergency protective measures, direct Federal Assistance, Individual and Household Program (IHP) assistance, Special Needs Program assistance, and debris removal. ​

What's your next lie rather than simply admit FEMA responded neglectfully slow and Brown was rightfully terminated?

What was the date of that letter?

Really? You're really too retarded to see the date on the link I gave?

Let me help you -- it was dated two days before Katrina reached New Orleans.

And need I remind you, you flat out lied. That letter proves she asked Bush for federal aid because the looming hurricane was more than her state could handle.

 

[Oldstyle]

more likely coast guard, but your point is valid. By not landing Bush allowed the rescue people to do their jobs without the delays that his security detail would have caused. It was the right thing to do----give up a photo op and let the recovery proceed.

Umm, the federal response did not require a personal appearance by Bush. Aid, food, and medical supplies would have sufficed. There was no excuse to take a week to get down there.

Only a submarine would have been able to deliver anything there until the water receded and the roads were made passable. I saw boats rescuing people and delivering water and food to stranded people in homes.

10 years later and righties are still making excuses. Brown's been fired for FEMA's horrible response, you can stop fluffing him now.

Ray Nagin is sitting in prison right now for his actions in the aftermath of Katrina...FEMA responded as it always does...slowly. The reason that Katrina was such a disaster was because the locals were incompetent or corrupt and those locals were all Democrats. Sorry to point out the inconvenient, Kiddies...but Brown was a scapegoat...nothing more nothing less.

Ray Nagin has nothing to do with this thread and Ray Nagin did nothing to slow down FEMA's response. Your deflection is noted and I suggest you start a thread about Ray Nagin if that's what you want to discuss. Meanwhile, pertinent to this thread, FEMA's response was neglectfully slow and Brown was rightfully terminated.

FEMA's response was the same as it ALWAYS is, Faun! Living in Florida, I've experienced a whole lot of hurricanes and the big ones are all the same. Loss of power. Power lines down and blocking streets. Streets flooded or highways washed away. No gas at the gas stations.

So when it took 11 days to get power back on after Hurricane Charlie and no grocery stores, gas stations and banks were open through out a wide swath of Florida...why didn't it turn into a major cluster fuck like New Orleans? For that matter, why was much of the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit even harder by Katrina than New Orleans able to dig themselves out and get going again while New Orleans descended into looting and crime in the streets?

If you stop with the partisan bullshit and really look at how the locals dealt with those hurricanes it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming! See, that's the thing about hurricanes...they don't pop up like tornadoes and catch you off guard. You know they are on the way and you've got ample time to either stock up on the essentials you need to make it through the aftermath of the storm...or you've got time to evacuate.

So why were people in the Superdome out of food and water a day after the storm hit? Are the citizens of New Orleans THAT stupid that they couldn't stock up on water before the storm hit? Couldn't buy a few loaves of bread and some peanut butter so they wouldn't starve? It would appear to be the case which then begs the question...why wasn't the Mayor of New Orleans on top of this situation either getting people out of the city or making them understand that if they stayed they needed to be prepared to go without outside assistance for what could be upwards of five days?

We're bracing for Tropical Storm Erica at the moment here in Florida. I've got my vehicles filled up with gas. I've got four cases of bottled water sitting on the floor of my pantry. I've got bread, peanut butter and fruit stocked in case we lose power and can't cook. I've got lanterns and I've got several drawers full of batteries to run them so we can see in the dark. Those are the kinds of things you DO if you're facing a possible hurricane! It's not hard. It just requires you to take your head out of your ass and react to what's going on around you! It's called being "self reliant"...something that Americans used to be known for! Now we're morphing into an entitlement society where someone else is supposed to take care of you from the cradle to the grave while you text on your smart phone and play video games.

 

[Faun]

Umm, the federal response did not require a personal appearance by Bush. Aid, food, and medical supplies would have sufficed. There was no excuse to take a week to get down there.

Only a submarine would have been able to deliver anything there until the water receded and the roads were made passable. I saw boats rescuing people and delivering water and food to stranded people in homes.

10 years later and righties are still making excuses. Brown's been fired for FEMA's horrible response, you can stop fluffing him now.

Ray Nagin is sitting in prison right now for his actions in the aftermath of Katrina...FEMA responded as it always does...slowly. The reason that Katrina was such a disaster was because the locals were incompetent or corrupt and those locals were all Democrats. Sorry to point out the inconvenient, Kiddies...but Brown was a scapegoat...nothing more nothing less.

Ray Nagin has nothing to do with this thread and Ray Nagin did nothing to slow down FEMA's response. Your deflection is noted and I suggest you start a thread about Ray Nagin if that's what you want to discuss. Meanwhile, pertinent to this thread, FEMA's response was neglectfully slow and Brown was rightfully terminated.

FEMA's response was the same as it ALWAYS is, Faun! Living in Florida, I've experienced a whole lot of hurricanes and the big ones are all the same. Loss of power. Power lines down and blocking streets. Streets flooded or highways washed away. No gas at the gas stations.

So when it took 11 days to get power back on after Hurricane Charlie and no grocery stores, gas stations and banks were open through out a wide swath of Florida...why didn't it turn into a major cluster fuck like New Orleans? For that matter, why was much of the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit even harder by Katrina than New Orleans able to dig themselves out and get going again while New Orleans descended into looting and crime in the streets?

If you stop with the partisan bullshit and really look at how the locals dealt with those hurricanes it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming! See, that's the thing about hurricanes...they don't pop up like tornadoes and catch you off guard. You know they are on the way and you've got ample time to either stock up on the essentials you need to make it through the aftermath of the storm...or you've got time to evacuate.

So why were people in the Superdome out of food and water a day after the storm hit? Are the citizens of New Orleans THAT stupid that they couldn't stock up on water before the storm hit? Couldn't buy a few loaves of bread and some peanut butter so they wouldn't starve? It would appear to be the case which then begs the question...why wasn't the Mayor of New Orleans on top of this situation either getting people out of the city or making them understand that if they stayed they needed to be prepared to go without outside assistance for what could be upwards of five days?

We're bracing for Tropical Storm Erica at the moment here in Florida. I've got my vehicles filled up with gas. I've got four cases of bottled water sitting on the floor of my pantry. I've got bread, peanut butter and fruit stocked in case we lose power and can't cook. I've got lanterns and I've got several drawers full of batteries to run them so we can see in the dark. Those are the kinds of things you DO if you're facing a possible hurricane! It's not hard. It just requires you to take your head out of your ass and react to what's going on around you! It's called being "self reliant"...something that Americans used to be known for! Now we're morphing into an entitlement society where someone else is supposed to take care of you from the cradle to the grave while you text on your smart phone and play video games.

The federal response was pitiful. Brown was fired and rightfully so. That you're preparing for a tropical depression (remnants of Erika) as though it's a hurricane reveals how demented you are.

So demented, you even think it was known a week in advance Katrina was going to hit New Orleans. In reality, from which you are clearly divorced, they had less than 48 hours notice.

 

[Vandalshandle]

"....it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming!"

I did not get past that lie, before I quit reading your BS. I was there. You were not. When we went to bed the night before, Katrina was a cat 3, heading to Mobile. When we were awakened the next morning, it was a cat 5, heading straight up the Mississippi River. Having lied about that is all that I need to know that you are completely full of shit.

 

[TooTall]

Only a submarine would have been able to deliver anything there until the water receded and the roads were made passable. I saw boats rescuing people and delivering water and food to stranded people in homes.

10 years later and righties are still making excuses. Brown's been fired for FEMA's horrible response, you can stop fluffing him now.

Everyone with more than half a brain knows that the clusterfuck was caused by the Governor not allowing Bush to federalize the rescue efforts. FEMA did everything they were allowed to do.

Lying rightie. When do you stop fluffing Bush? You know he's still not interested in you, right?

In reality, the governor begged Bush for federal help...

Blanco's State of Emergency letter to President Bush

Dear Mr. President:

Under the provisions of Section 501 (a) of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR § 206.35, I request that you declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period beginning August 26, 2005, and continuing. The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina.

In response to the situation I have taken appropriate action under State law and directed the execution of the State Emergency Plan on August 26, 2005 in accordance with Section 501 (a) of the Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in order to support the evacuations of the coastal areas in accordance with our State Evacuation Plan and the remainder of the state to support the State Special Needs and Sheltering Plan.

Pursuant to 44 CFR § 206.35, I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster. I am specifically requesting emergency protective measures, direct Federal Assistance, Individual and Household Program (IHP) assistance, Special Needs Program assistance, and debris removal. ​

What's your next lie rather than simply admit FEMA responded neglectfully slow and Brown was rightfully terminated?

What was the date of that letter?

August 27. It's right there in the link.

August 27 would be Saturday. Katrina hit Monday. Saturday was the day I, as a typical resident, first became aware there was a hurricane coming at all. About 2pm I got a call from a co-worker asking "so what are you gonna do about this storm"? to which I replied, "what storm?". Right about that moment the National Hurricane Center in Florida was calling the city warning them about the storm's projected path. It was at that time heading west out of Florida but was expected to make a right turn.

​

Map would have been generated about 1am Sunday ("6Z" means "six hours Zulu", or 06:00 UTC, which is 01:00 CDT). About 11 hours after the time both I and the city got their warnings.

What's the problem?

"President Bush declared a state of emergency in Louisiana on Saturday because of the approach of Hurricane Katrina and his spokesman urged residents along the coast to heed authorities' advice to evacuate...

...The president's emergency declaration authorizes the FEMA to coordinate all disaster relief efforts and to provide appropriate assistance in a number of Louisiana parishes, or counties."

 

[Stephanie]

All you need to know.

is Democrat Mayor (chocolate city) Nagin and the white Democrat Governor Blanco
left almost 2000 of their citizens they were in CHARGE OF: to parish while they saved their OWN ASSES

don't let the Democrats turn put this on anyone else. those lives on THEIR HANDS

 

[Redfish]

"....it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming!"

I did not get past that lie, before I quit reading your BS. I was there. You were not. When we went to bed the night before, Katrina was a cat 3, heading to Mobile. When we were awakened the next morning, it was a cat 5, heading straight up the Mississippi River. Having lied about that is all that I need to know that you are completely full of shit.

I rarely agree with you, but on this you are 100% correct.

 

[Oldstyle]

Only a submarine would have been able to deliver anything there until the water receded and the roads were made passable. I saw boats rescuing people and delivering water and food to stranded people in homes.

10 years later and righties are still making excuses. Brown's been fired for FEMA's horrible response, you can stop fluffing him now.

Ray Nagin is sitting in prison right now for his actions in the aftermath of Katrina...FEMA responded as it always does...slowly. The reason that Katrina was such a disaster was because the locals were incompetent or corrupt and those locals were all Democrats. Sorry to point out the inconvenient, Kiddies...but Brown was a scapegoat...nothing more nothing less.

Ray Nagin has nothing to do with this thread and Ray Nagin did nothing to slow down FEMA's response. Your deflection is noted and I suggest you start a thread about Ray Nagin if that's what you want to discuss. Meanwhile, pertinent to this thread, FEMA's response was neglectfully slow and Brown was rightfully terminated.

FEMA's response was the same as it ALWAYS is, Faun! Living in Florida, I've experienced a whole lot of hurricanes and the big ones are all the same. Loss of power. Power lines down and blocking streets. Streets flooded or highways washed away. No gas at the gas stations.

So when it took 11 days to get power back on after Hurricane Charlie and no grocery stores, gas stations and banks were open through out a wide swath of Florida...why didn't it turn into a major cluster fuck like New Orleans? For that matter, why was much of the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit even harder by Katrina than New Orleans able to dig themselves out and get going again while New Orleans descended into looting and crime in the streets?

If you stop with the partisan bullshit and really look at how the locals dealt with those hurricanes it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming! See, that's the thing about hurricanes...they don't pop up like tornadoes and catch you off guard. You know they are on the way and you've got ample time to either stock up on the essentials you need to make it through the aftermath of the storm...or you've got time to evacuate.

So why were people in the Superdome out of food and water a day after the storm hit? Are the citizens of New Orleans THAT stupid that they couldn't stock up on water before the storm hit? Couldn't buy a few loaves of bread and some peanut butter so they wouldn't starve? It would appear to be the case which then begs the question...why wasn't the Mayor of New Orleans on top of this situation either getting people out of the city or making them understand that if they stayed they needed to be prepared to go without outside assistance for what could be upwards of five days?

We're bracing for Tropical Storm Erica at the moment here in Florida. I've got my vehicles filled up with gas. I've got four cases of bottled water sitting on the floor of my pantry. I've got bread, peanut butter and fruit stocked in case we lose power and can't cook. I've got lanterns and I've got several drawers full of batteries to run them so we can see in the dark. Those are the kinds of things you DO if you're facing a possible hurricane! It's not hard. It just requires you to take your head out of your ass and react to what's going on around you! It's called being "self reliant"...something that Americans used to be known for! Now we're morphing into an entitlement society where someone else is supposed to take care of you from the cradle to the grave while you text on your smart phone and play video games.

The federal response was pitiful. Brown was fired and rightfully so. That you're preparing for a tropical depression (remnants of Erika) as though it's a hurricane reveals how demented you are.

So demented, you even think it was known a week in advance Katrina was going to hit New Orleans. In reality, from which you are clearly divorced, they had less than 48 hours notice.

I'm prepared for a storm that may or may not reform and become a hurricane. That's not "demented"...that's "prudent"! I didn't say that it was known that a week in advance where Katrina was going to make landfall...what I said was that hurricanes are something that you see coming long before they arrive unlike a tornado.

I can only laugh at your claim that New Orleans only had 48 hours notice about Katrina. The truth is...the people running that city had far longer than that but they didn't react until it was too late. That's on Nagin and Blanco...not on FEMA. FEMA comes in and cleans up the mess after a hurricane has come and gone. It's not set up to save your ass when you haven't prepared for one in the first place!

The perfect symbol for Ray Nagin's incompetence is the hundreds of school buses that were ruined because they sat in floodwaters while people complained that they had no way to get out of the city because they didn't have a car. Any Mayor who wasn't an idiot would have put drivers in those buses and used them to transport people out of the city, killing two birds with one stone. But not Ray...he was too busy lining his pockets to do his job!

 

[Oldstyle]

"....it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming!"

I did not get past that lie, before I quit reading your BS. I was there. You were not. When we went to bed the night before, Katrina was a cat 3, heading to Mobile. When we were awakened the next morning, it was a cat 5, heading straight up the Mississippi River. Having lied about that is all that I need to know that you are completely full of shit.

Unless you're a complete and utter moron...and have never lived through a hurricane...you KNOW that hurricanes change direction all the time and change strength all the time. When I said that New Orleans had the better part of a week to prepare for Katrina I was not stating that it was known where Katrina would end up coming ashore...anyone who's watched hurricane coverage on the weather channel is familiar with the myriad of plotted courses that storm forecasters are guessing the storm might go. One of those plotted courses was towards New Orleans.

Hurricane Charlie was supposed to make landfall in Tampa...instead at the last moment it veered to the right and made landfall right on top of us instead. That in no way means that we didn't see the storm coming for the better part of a week.

 

[Oldstyle]

And I believe that Katrina actually DID make landfall as a category 3 hurricane instead of the possible category 5 hurricane that it was earlier projected to be so obviously Vandal's memory is bad and Redfish's isn't any better!

 

[Redfish]

And I believe that Katrina actually DID make landfall as a category 3 hurricane instead of the possible category 5 hurricane that it was earlier projected to be so obviously Vandal's memory is bad and Redfish's isn't any better!

my memory is just fine, dude. If the levees had held Katrina would have just been a wind event in New Orleans, but it devastated the MS gulf coast. When we went to bed that night it was a cat 3 heading for Mobile. During the night it turned and made landfall around the MS/LA state line. That put NOLA on the wet side of the storm and drove the water up the MRGO and the river pushing the levees and causing some of them to break.

Nagin and Blanco are responsible for not taking action to save the people who were not able to evacuate on their own. FEMA came in afterwards and did a pretty good job of passing out food, water, tarps, etc. The real heroes were the USCG and the state police.

 

[Vandalshandle]

And I believe that Katrina actually DID make landfall as a category 3 hurricane instead of the possible category 5 hurricane that it was earlier projected to be so obviously Vandal's memory is bad and Redfish's isn't any better!

Katrina weakened from a cat 5 to a cat 3 when it hit the coastal wetlands. As for the rest of your post, where you claim that you never said, "this", or "that", it is more than amusing that you are trying to backtrack, when what you posted is still on the thread:

"....it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming!"

Like Trump, you are fooling nobody but yourself and the feebleminded.

 

[Redfish]

And I believe that Katrina actually DID make landfall as a category 3 hurricane instead of the possible category 5 hurricane that it was earlier projected to be so obviously Vandal's memory is bad and Redfish's isn't any better!

Katrina weakened from a cat 5 to a cat 3 when it hit the coastal wetlands. As for the rest of your post, where you claim that you never said, "this", or "that", it is more than amusing that you are trying to backtrack, when what you posted is still on the thread:

"....it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming!"

Like Trump, you are fooling nobody but yourself and the feebleminded.

gotta correct your last line.


Like Hillary Clinton, you are fooling nobody but yourself and the feebleminded.

 

[Vandalshandle]

And I believe that Katrina actually DID make landfall as a category 3 hurricane instead of the possible category 5 hurricane that it was earlier projected to be so obviously Vandal's memory is bad and Redfish's isn't any better!

Katrina weakened from a cat 5 to a cat 3 when it hit the coastal wetlands. As for the rest of your post, where you claim that you never said, "this", or "that", it is more than amusing that you are trying to backtrack, when what you posted is still on the thread:

"....it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming!"

Like Trump, you are fooling nobody but yourself and the feebleminded.

gotta correct your last line.


Like Hillary Clinton, you are fooling nobody but yourself and the feebleminded.

I would correct it, if there were anything to correct.

 

[Redfish]

And I believe that Katrina actually DID make landfall as a category 3 hurricane instead of the possible category 5 hurricane that it was earlier projected to be so obviously Vandal's memory is bad and Redfish's isn't any better!

Katrina weakened from a cat 5 to a cat 3 when it hit the coastal wetlands. As for the rest of your post, where you claim that you never said, "this", or "that", it is more than amusing that you are trying to backtrack, when what you posted is still on the thread:

"....it's obvious that New Orleans did an AWFUL job at preparing for a natural disaster that they knew for the better part of a week was coming!"

Like Trump, you are fooling nobody but yourself and the feebleminded.

gotta correct your last line.


Like Hillary Clinton, you are fooling nobody but yourself and the feebleminded.

I would correct it, if there were anything to correct.

yes, I get it. your head is up hillary's fat ass.

 

[Oldstyle]

And I believe that Katrina actually DID make landfall as a category 3 hurricane instead of the possible category 5 hurricane that it was earlier projected to be so obviously Vandal's memory is bad and Redfish's isn't any better!

my memory is just fine, dude. If the levees had held Katrina would have just been a wind event in New Orleans, but it devastated the MS gulf coast. When we went to bed that night it was a cat 3 heading for Mobile. During the night it turned and made landfall around the MS/LA state line. That put NOLA on the wet side of the storm and drove the water up the MRGO and the river pushing the levees and causing some of them to break.

Nagin and Blanco are responsible for not taking action to save the people who were not able to evacuate on their own. FEMA came in afterwards and did a pretty good job of passing out food, water, tarps, etc. The real heroes were the USCG and the state police.

So why didn't the levees hold? Would you agree that local politicians in New Orleans have been diverting monies that should have gone to fixing them to other pet projects for decades? So why is the resulting levee failures the fault of FEMA? Michael Brown became a scapegoat while the politicians in Louisiana who are responsible for those levee failures got a pass. Why is that?