Bush destroyed capitalism. Obama Saved it.

[healthmyths]

George Bush presided over the greatest era of financial lawlessness since the Gilded Age. He used the Housing Market to stimulate a dead economy by loaning money into the economy on the backs of people who had no downpayment, no collateral and often no job. Under his guidance, any impediment to mortgage lending was suppressed. Under his leadership, the most corrupt and unregulated derivatives market in world history flourished - until it blew up and destroyed the lives of millions. When Bush was begged to pressure Greenspan to raise rates and cool the bubble, he simply turned a deaf ear.

The Bush job growth numbers are the worst of any president since Hoover.
Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Obama inherited the greatest mess of any president since FDR, yet his job growth has eclipsed Reagan's

Click this Forbe's article...
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs Growth And Investing - Forbes

Once again, a great democratic leader saves capitalism from itself.

Discuss.

You wrote: "to stimulate a dead economy "
This "dead economy".. would it be because of:
A) Dot.com bust the bubble started under Clinton... $5 trillion in market value WIPED out... 400,000 jobs GONE
B) Recession that started under Clinton officially beginning 3/2001 ended 11/2001...
C) 9/11 started under Clinton with the Gorelick Memo that forbid CIA from sharing with FBI the bombers existence.. cost $2 trillion 150,000 jobs in NYC!
OH a minor event called 9/11! Geez 3,000 people died, $2 trillion in damages, 18,000 businesses gone and YOU forget that???
4) Worst WORST hurricane SEASONS NOt just Katrina... that cost
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...
And if this is a dead economy...

GWB had the Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

YET Bush at the end of 2000 the average for the year was 131,785,000 fully employed...
At the end of 2008 the average for the year was 136,790,000 full employed and THAT is A FACT!
That means from end of 2000 to the end of 2008 there were 5,050,000 more employed!
These are exactly what the Bureau of Labor Statistics REPORTED.
http://www.citizen.org/documents/Historical_employment_data.pdf

All of these events from a "dead economy"... Right!!!

 

[francoHFW]

That's crap jobs making up to much of the GOP obstructed recovery, and more WORKING people getting food stamps? How bout a gd jobs/infrastucture bill and training for millions of tech jobs going begging, that any intelligent party would be for.

 

[healthmyths]

Now as to Obama... would you say ANY PRESIDENT would say these things about America?
1) Our military is methodically and systematically air-raiding villages killing civilians.
2) Obama wants higher gas prices and he contributes by signing 40% LESS federal oil leases then Bush and thus reducing federal production by 13%.
Obama said I'd like higher gas prices, just not so quickly.."

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and backs that belief hiring Energy secretary Chu, who said in 2008...
“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”
3) Obama wants 1,300 companies to go out of business that pay $100 billion in taxes and employ 400,000 people.
Obama said:"I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.”
4)Obama wants utility companies to go bankrupt... he's said so.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-fired plant they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them…”
5)Obama wants utility rates to skyrocket. He's said so.
"Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket"
Obama I 8217 ll make energy prices 8220 skyrocket 8221 Hot Air

Never in the history of America has a single president said the above!
That is a destructive president... wanting to destroy America.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

One would think you would do the same and put some accountability on the man in charge for the last six years. Yet you can't seem to do that. You still want to blame someone else for the current presidents failures.

What failures? He cleaned up Bush's mess and put the country back on a solid track of job growth.

On the other hand, the Right blames Clinton & Carter for the Housing/Financial Meltdown, and they blame Clinton for 9/11.

During the Bush years, blaming Clinton became a Republican industry. For a party that talks so much about accountability, they never seem to take any. Your president can't defend the eastern seaboard, but his noise machine is great at blaming other people for what Al Qaeda did to this country on his watch.

Of course, when something good happens under a Democratic president, your side tells us it's because of the Republicans (Newt = Clinton's job growth & surplus). On the other hand, you never give the Democratic House an ounce of credit for the growth under Reagan.

You shouldn't be allowed to use the word accountability.

What good has come because we had a democrat congress, senate and presidency the first two years? It's been six years now with a democrat president and senate where are the good times and parties celebrating prosperity? So far you have given us obiecare and rising healthcare costs, no economic growth to be proud of and now executive action on illegal, read criminal, aliens getting amnesty.

What the fuck have you actually done for this country? What good do we have to look at and praise as the right direction for this country to take? Where the fuck is the success over the last six years?

 

[healthmyths]

That's crap jobs making up to much of the GOP obstructed recovery, and more WORKING people getting food stamps? How bout a gd jobs/infrastucture bill and training for millions of tech jobs going begging, that any intelligent party would be for.

sure... OK.. whatever you say.. but again you never obviously lived in the USA when these events occurred.
A) Dot.com bust the bubble started under Clinton... $5 trillion in market value WIPED out... 400,000 jobs GONE
B) Recession that started under Clinton officially beginning 3/2001 ended 11/2001...
C) 9/11 started under Clinton with the Gorelick Memo that forbid CIA from sharing with FBI the bombers existence.. cost $2 trillion 150,000 jobs in NYC!
OH a minor event called 9/11! Geez 3,000 people died, $2 trillion in damages, 18,000 businesses gone and YOU forget that???
4) Worst WORST hurricane SEASONS NOt just Katrina... that cost
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...
You may be able to deny it but the rest of world lived through these events... I know I did ! Remember the anthrax attacks? Were you that informed to know where they were coming from?

 

[healthmyths]

Hey... would someone tell FrancohFW that these events happened? He seemingly wasn't aware!

A) Dot.com bust the bubble started under Clinton... $5 trillion in market value WIPED out... 400,000 jobs GONE
B) Recession that started under Clinton officially beginning 3/2001 ended 11/2001...
C) 9/11 started under Clinton with the Gorelick Memo that forbid CIA from sharing with FBI the bombers existence.. cost $2 trillion 150,000 jobs in NYC!
OH a minor event called 9/11! Geez 3,000 people died, $2 trillion in damages, 18,000 businesses gone and YOU forget that???
4) Worst WORST hurricane SEASONS NOt just Katrina... that cost
10 Costliest Catastrophes in the U.S. - Slide Show-Kiplinger
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

 

[francoHFW]

Actually Bush tried to stop the democrat loan system put in place by the democrat controlled congress. Because he knew it wasn't sustainable. Much like anyone with a functioning mind would know but the democrats kept insisting it could go on forever.

Obie didn't inherit a mess of someone elses making, he inherited a mess his own people created and he voted for. It's amazing to me how you morons need to twist data in order to support this idiot when actual numbers tell the story. Bush didn't need to fake his numbers like obie does. That should be painfully obvious after six years of obies so called "recovery" when nobody is recovering.

False. Listen to what Bush says in the supplied video. He fiercely advocates for the aggressive expansion of home ownership among the poor, including the elimination of things like down payments coupled with a steroidal role for Fannie/Freddie.

Stop lying and listen to his words.

The laws the democrats pushed?

They didn't push the crony "regulating" under Booosh. When Fanny and Freddie's share of the market went from 75% to 25% of the market.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Actually Bush tried to stop the democrat loan system put in place by the democrat controlled congress. Because he knew it wasn't sustainable. Much like anyone with a functioning mind would know but the democrats kept insisting it could go on forever.

Obie didn't inherit a mess of someone elses making, he inherited a mess his own people created and he voted for. It's amazing to me how you morons need to twist data in order to support this idiot when actual numbers tell the story. Bush didn't need to fake his numbers like obie does. That should be painfully obvious after six years of obies so called "recovery" when nobody is recovering.

False. Listen to what Bush says in the supplied video. He fiercely advocates for the aggressive expansion of home ownership among the poor, including the elimination of things like down payments coupled with a steroidal role for Fannie/Freddie.

Stop lying and listen to his words.

The laws the democrats pushed?

They didn't push the crony "regulating" under Booosh. When Fanny and Freddie's share of the market went from 75% to 25% of the market.

I look forward to your posts franco, it's like a retard running in the room and spouting off some random shit that makes everyone laugh.

 

[Vigilante]

Actually Bush tried to stop the democrat loan system put in place by the democrat controlled congress. Because he knew it wasn't sustainable. Much like anyone with a functioning mind would know but the democrats kept insisting it could go on forever.

Obie didn't inherit a mess of someone elses making, he inherited a mess his own people created and he voted for. It's amazing to me how you morons need to twist data in order to support this idiot when actual numbers tell the story. Bush didn't need to fake his numbers like obie does. That should be painfully obvious after six years of obies so called "recovery" when nobody is recovering.

False. Listen to what Bush says in the supplied video. He fiercely advocates for the aggressive expansion of home ownership among the poor, including the elimination of things like down payments coupled with a steroidal role for Fannie/Freddie.

Stop lying and listen to his words.

The laws the democrats pushed?

They didn't push the crony "regulating" under Booosh. When Fanny and Freddie's share of the market went from 75% to 25% of the market.

 

[francoHFW]

Great corrupt bubble Bush used to have a weak economy...only started a world depression that still is on in oh, the ME...and many chaotic places...Remind of the LAST Pub world depression? Only cost 6-7 trillion to avert the worst of it here...

 

[francoHFW]

Actually Bush tried to stop the democrat loan system put in place by the democrat controlled congress. Because he knew it wasn't sustainable. Much like anyone with a functioning mind would know but the democrats kept insisting it could go on forever.

Obie didn't inherit a mess of someone elses making, he inherited a mess his own people created and he voted for. It's amazing to me how you morons need to twist data in order to support this idiot when actual numbers tell the story. Bush didn't need to fake his numbers like obie does. That should be painfully obvious after six years of obies so called "recovery" when nobody is recovering.

False. Listen to what Bush says in the supplied video. He fiercely advocates for the aggressive expansion of home ownership among the poor, including the elimination of things like down payments coupled with a steroidal role for Fannie/Freddie.

Stop lying and listen to his words.

The laws the democrats pushed?

They didn't push the crony "regulating" under Booosh. When Fanny and Freddie's share of the market went from 75% to 25% of the market.

I was there. Lots of the GOP today would have liked his rule. Law and order, no pesky dissent. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead! Y Viva Espana!

 

[Vigilante]

Actually Bush tried to stop the democrat loan system put in place by the democrat controlled congress. Because he knew it wasn't sustainable. Much like anyone with a functioning mind would know but the democrats kept insisting it could go on forever.

Obie didn't inherit a mess of someone elses making, he inherited a mess his own people created and he voted for. It's amazing to me how you morons need to twist data in order to support this idiot when actual numbers tell the story. Bush didn't need to fake his numbers like obie does. That should be painfully obvious after six years of obies so called "recovery" when nobody is recovering.

False. Listen to what Bush says in the supplied video. He fiercely advocates for the aggressive expansion of home ownership among the poor, including the elimination of things like down payments coupled with a steroidal role for Fannie/Freddie.

Stop lying and listen to his words.

The laws the democrats pushed?

They didn't push the crony "regulating" under Booosh. When Fanny and Freddie's share of the market went from 75% to 25% of the market.

I was there. Lots of the GOP today would have liked his rule. Law and order, no pesky dissent. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead! Y Viva Espana!

Wrong Franco dead!

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Great corrupt bubble Bush used to have a weak economy.

Is that english? Are you trying to invent your own language here?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Actually Bush tried to stop the democrat loan system put in place by the democrat controlled congress. Because he knew it wasn't sustainable. Much like anyone with a functioning mind would know but the democrats kept insisting it could go on forever.

Obie didn't inherit a mess of someone elses making, he inherited a mess his own people created and he voted for. It's amazing to me how you morons need to twist data in order to support this idiot when actual numbers tell the story. Bush didn't need to fake his numbers like obie does. That should be painfully obvious after six years of obies so called "recovery" when nobody is recovering.

False. Listen to what Bush says in the supplied video. He fiercely advocates for the aggressive expansion of home ownership among the poor, including the elimination of things like down payments coupled with a steroidal role for Fannie/Freddie.

Stop lying and listen to his words.

The laws the democrats pushed?

They didn't push the crony "regulating" under Booosh. When Fanny and Freddie's share of the market went from 75% to 25% of the market.

I was there. Lots of the GOP today would have liked his rule. Law and order, no pesky dissent. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead! Y Viva Espana!

No pesky dissent seems to be your problem. People actually wanting to live their lives without your rules of conduct kind of piss you off. If only they would move into the government provided concrete bunker and go to their government mandated jobs at the government mandated rates of pay and stop being so damn individual you could get your utopia.

I get it, those pesky ass people not wanting to go with your program are the problem. If it weren't for them you could easily show them their place. After all you know what is best for them.

 

[francoHFW]

George Bush presided over the greatest era of financial lawlessness since the Gilded Age. He used the Housing Market to stimulate a dead economy by loaning money into the economy on the backs of people who had no downpayment, no collateral and often no job. Under his guidance, any impediment to mortgage lending was suppressed. Under his leadership, the most corrupt and unregulated derivatives market in world history flourished - until it blew up and destroyed the lives of millions. When Bush was begged to pressure Greenspan to raise rates and cool the bubble, he simply turned a deaf ear.

The Bush job growth numbers are the worst of any president since Hoover.
Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Obama inherited the greatest mess of any president since FDR, yet his job growth has eclipsed Reagan's

Click this Forbe's article...
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs Growth And Investing - Forbes

Once again, a great democratic leader saves capitalism from itself.

Discuss.

Clinton is the potus that signed the law mandating those lending laws that led to the collapse as pushed by frank and Dodd, dimwits. What is it with libtards blaming bush for their screw ups?

BS. That was a GOP bill he went along with. Anyway, funny how things were fine until Booosh crony regulators let their pals wreck the real estate market and the world...

 

[Missouri_Mike]

George Bush presided over the greatest era of financial lawlessness since the Gilded Age. He used the Housing Market to stimulate a dead economy by loaning money into the economy on the backs of people who had no downpayment, no collateral and often no job. Under his guidance, any impediment to mortgage lending was suppressed. Under his leadership, the most corrupt and unregulated derivatives market in world history flourished - until it blew up and destroyed the lives of millions. When Bush was begged to pressure Greenspan to raise rates and cool the bubble, he simply turned a deaf ear.

The Bush job growth numbers are the worst of any president since Hoover.
Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Obama inherited the greatest mess of any president since FDR, yet his job growth has eclipsed Reagan's

Click this Forbe's article...
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs Growth And Investing - Forbes

Once again, a great democratic leader saves capitalism from itself.

Discuss.

Clinton is the potus that signed the law mandating those lending laws that led to the collapse as pushed by frank and Dodd, dimwits. What is it with libtards blaming bush for their screw ups?

BS. That was a GOP bill he went along with. Anyway, funny how things were fine until Booosh crony regulators let their pals wreck the real estate market and the world...

Mind posting a link to where this was a republican bill?

 

[asterism]

How did Obama save Capitalism?

Also, Bush isn't not considered to be a fiscal conservative nor a capitalist so the record of his policies can't be used to bolster or refute the premise. Some of his policies were capitalistic and fiscally conservative but most were not.

 

[francoHFW]

Great corrupt bubble Bush used to have a weak economy.

Is that english? Are you trying to invent your own language here?

It's Master in History speak you always want to hear, Jethro. Also the story (history) of the century so far. Beside the total incompentence allowing 9/11 and the stupidest wars ever...

 

[francoHFW]

George Bush presided over the greatest era of financial lawlessness since the Gilded Age. He used the Housing Market to stimulate a dead economy by loaning money into the economy on the backs of people who had no downpayment, no collateral and often no job. Under his guidance, any impediment to mortgage lending was suppressed. Under his leadership, the most corrupt and unregulated derivatives market in world history flourished - until it blew up and destroyed the lives of millions. When Bush was begged to pressure Greenspan to raise rates and cool the bubble, he simply turned a deaf ear.

The Bush job growth numbers are the worst of any president since Hoover.
Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Obama inherited the greatest mess of any president since FDR, yet his job growth has eclipsed Reagan's

Click this Forbe's article...
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs Growth And Investing - Forbes

Once again, a great democratic leader saves capitalism from itself.

Discuss.

Clinton is the potus that signed the law mandating those lending laws that led to the collapse as pushed by frank and Dodd, dimwits. What is it with libtards blaming bush for their screw ups?

BS. That was a GOP bill he went along with. Anyway, funny how things were fine until Booosh crony regulators let their pals wreck the real estate market and the world...

Mind posting a link to where this was a republican bill?

What were the sponsors names?

 

[francoHFW]

False. Listen to what Bush says in the supplied video. He fiercely advocates for the aggressive expansion of home ownership among the poor, including the elimination of things like down payments coupled with a steroidal role for Fannie/Freddie.

Stop lying and listen to his words.

The laws the democrats pushed?

They didn't push the crony "regulating" under Booosh. When Fanny and Freddie's share of the market went from 75% to 25% of the market.

I was there. Lots of the GOP today would have liked his rule. Law and order, no pesky dissent. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead! Y Viva Espana!

No pesky dissent seems to be your problem. People actually wanting to live their lives without your rules of conduct kind of piss you off. If only they would move into the government provided concrete bunker and go to their government mandated jobs at the government mandated rates of pay and stop being so damn individual you could get your utopia.

I get it, those pesky ass people not wanting to go with your program are the problem. If it weren't for them you could easily show them their place. After all you know what is best for them.

No, you don't get it lol...What conduct? You know, whether you get an abortion? Married? Smoke pot? What jobs are mandated? Protecting workers and the environment from greedy idiot Pubs is hardly that bs....brainwashed dingbat.