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Fuck IraqActually they did before they were ISIS they were Al-Qaeda in Iraq and yes I know they began under Bush. Yes they were waiting to fill that void which was exactly what all of Obamas military advisors were telling him would happen if the U.S. withdrew to soon . The right answer was to listen to the advice of your military commanders and not withdraw till they told you they were confident the Iraqis could handle security. If he had done that and the Iraqi forces still failed after we left he could have then said he followed the advice of the military and did everything possible to help the Iraqis handle security.ISIS did not exist. They were waiting to fill the power void as soon as we vacatedHow many towns did ISiS control in January of 2009 when Obama was sworn in? How large an area of Iraq were they in control of at that same time? The fire was out.If the fire is put out and you let someone else start another one then it becomes your responsibility.
The "fire" was far from put out
It required a constant US police force to maintain order. Along with that mission came a monthly death toll
I am an American who is unwilling to pay that toll
That could have been one year.....could have been ten
Wouldn't have stopped them
If your answer is...then don't leave
it is the wrong answer
We gave them ten years of our soldiers being killed to fend off the inevitable. Iraq was going to fall to secular violence unless we were there to stop it
Bush (they will treat us as liberators) should have known better
His father did
They are by their policiesYo, winger. tell us again what Bush is running for? What office are you trying to keep him from being elected to?
We are looking at the same Republican regime anxious to make the same mistakes Bush made.......they are already grumbling about Iran and Iraq 3
Not true, other than Jeb (who will not get nominated) not one of the GOP contenders is tied to bush.
If anything, they are bigger war mongers
total bullshit, which GOP candidates are advocating war. Give us the names and quotes or STFU with your lies.
Fuck IraqActually they did before they were ISIS they were Al-Qaeda in Iraq and yes I know they began under Bush. Yes they were waiting to fill that void which was exactly what all of Obamas military advisors were telling him would happen if the U.S. withdrew to soon . The right answer was to listen to the advice of your military commanders and not withdraw till they told you they were confident the Iraqis could handle security. If he had done that and the Iraqi forces still failed after we left he could have then said he followed the advice of the military and did everything possible to help the Iraqis handle security.ISIS did not exist. They were waiting to fill the power void as soon as we vacatedHow many towns did ISiS control in January of 2009 when Obama was sworn in? How large an area of Iraq were they in control of at that same time? The fire was out.The "fire" was far from put out
It required a constant US police force to maintain order. Along with that mission came a monthly death toll
I am an American who is unwilling to pay that toll
That could have been one year.....could have been ten
Wouldn't have stopped them
If your answer is...then don't leave
it is the wrong answer
We gave them ten years of our soldiers being killed to fend off the inevitable. Iraq was going to fall to secular violence unless we were there to stop it
Bush (they will treat us as liberators) should have known better
His father did
Yep, fuck Iraq just like we fucked viet nam. let the thousands of great american kids die for nothing, You traitorous asshole.
We agree that we should never have been in either place, but when we do enter a war we should go in full bore and win it quick. THAT is the lesson of viet nam and Iraq.
More Bush blunders or outright lies
In order to justify his invasion, Bush told the American people it would be quickly over and that an occupying force of 100,000 troops would not be necessary. When Gen Shinseki stated that an occupying force in excess of that number would be required for many years....he was fired
They are by their policiesYo, winger. tell us again what Bush is running for? What office are you trying to keep him from being elected to?
We are looking at the same Republican regime anxious to make the same mistakes Bush made.......they are already grumbling about Iran and Iraq 3
Not true, other than Jeb (who will not get nominated) not one of the GOP contenders is tied to bush.
If anything, they are bigger war mongers
total bullshit, which GOP candidates are advocating war. Give us the names and quotes or STFU with your lies.
Ted Cruz On Iran Nuclear Negotiations This Deal Makes War A Certainty
Fuck IraqActually they did before they were ISIS they were Al-Qaeda in Iraq and yes I know they began under Bush. Yes they were waiting to fill that void which was exactly what all of Obamas military advisors were telling him would happen if the U.S. withdrew to soon . The right answer was to listen to the advice of your military commanders and not withdraw till they told you they were confident the Iraqis could handle security. If he had done that and the Iraqi forces still failed after we left he could have then said he followed the advice of the military and did everything possible to help the Iraqis handle security.ISIS did not exist. They were waiting to fill the power void as soon as we vacatedHow many towns did ISiS control in January of 2009 when Obama was sworn in? How large an area of Iraq were they in control of at that same time? The fire was out.
That could have been one year.....could have been ten
Wouldn't have stopped them
If your answer is...then don't leave
it is the wrong answer
We gave them ten years of our soldiers being killed to fend off the inevitable. Iraq was going to fall to secular violence unless we were there to stop it
Bush (they will treat us as liberators) should have known better
His father did
Yep, fuck Iraq just like we fucked viet nam. let the thousands of great american kids die for nothing, You traitorous asshole.
We agree that we should never have been in either place, but when we do enter a war we should go in full bore and win it quick. THAT is the lesson of viet nam and Iraq.
What we learned from Vietnam (or were supposed to learn) is you don't keep wasting lives so that those who died from your previous bad decisions didn't die "in vain"
It was Bush and company who contrived the war they lied in order to gin up a war...a majority of both parties in congress authorized, funded, an supported the Iraq fiasco. They are all responsible, including both Clintons.
A minority of Democrats supported it and almost every (except for 7) Republican supported itMore Bush blunders or outright lies
In order to justify his invasion, Bush told the American people it would be quickly over and that an occupying force of 100,000 troops would not be necessary. When Gen Shinseki stated that an occupying force in excess of that number would be required for many years....he was fired
a majority of both parties in congress authorized, funded, an supported the Iraq fiasco. They are all responsible, including both Clintons.
But in the end...it was Bush's war
He envisioned it, he lied to get it and he gave the order to invade
ROFL 15-YEARS AND STILL RUNNING STRONG... BUSH!!!Fear mongering was much more effective
George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.
What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.
In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.
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ROFL 15-YEARS AND STILL RUNNING STRONG... BUSH!!!Fear mongering was much more effective
George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.
What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.
In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.
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You're a lying piece of shit.ROFL 15-YEARS AND STILL RUNNING STRONG... BUSH!!!Fear mongering was much more effective
George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.
What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.
In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.
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12 year from the Iraq invasion and occupation disaster and still the GOP are running away from GW and trying to blame everyone, anyone, but him.
What makes you think there were no democrats on board that ship? Do you have to quit the democrat party when you join our military?You don't think this was Bush's war?
Why didn't he invite the Democrats on that carrier if it was their war too?
What makes you think there were no democrats on board that ship? Do you have to quit the democrat party when you join our military?You don't think this was Bush's war?
Why didn't he invite the Democrats on that carrier if it was their war too?
You're a lying piece of shit.ROFL 15-YEARS AND STILL RUNNING STRONG... BUSH!!!Fear mongering was much more effective
George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.
What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.
In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.
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12 year from the Iraq invasion and occupation disaster and still the GOP are running away from GW and trying to blame everyone, anyone, but him.
huh? Why would the POTUS invite a freshmen senator (Hillary) on a visit to an aircraft carrier? Why would he invite Kerry? Huh?What makes you think there were no democrats on board that ship? Do you have to quit the democrat party when you join our military?You don't think this was Bush's war?
Why didn't he invite the Democrats on that carrier if it was their war too?
The crew of the ship didn't vote for the war
If Iraq was such a bipartisan effort like revisionist Republicans are claiming, why wasn't Hillary or Kerry invited on the carrier with Bush?
huh? Why would the POTUS invite a freshmen senator (Hillary) on a visit to an aircraft carrier? Why would he invite Kerry? Huh?What makes you think there were no democrats on board that ship? Do you have to quit the democrat party when you join our military?You don't think this was Bush's war?
Why didn't he invite the Democrats on that carrier if it was their war too?
The crew of the ship didn't vote for the war
If Iraq was such a bipartisan effort like revisionist Republicans are claiming, why wasn't Hillary or Kerry invited on the carrier with Bush?
