Bush's Lies Caused The Iraq War

[Camp]

yeah....it is no secret saddam had connections with AQ....

what is the point of this fruitless thread?

There was no link between Saddam and al Qaeda. That was one of the Bush administration lies. By linking the two an implication, or actual statement of fact was being made that Saddam's WMD's were available to AQ because they were allies and connected. Bush claimed Saddam supported al Qaeda in his State of the Union Address. That was a blatant lie.

 

[peach174]

Surely you're not that uninformed. I heard and saw Bush live on TV when he first tried to link Saddam to 9/11. I encourage you to Google "bush links Saddam to 9/11"...

Then LINK IT shit for brains...or is tech your failing?

Here ya go. The good part is a 2:30 "Saddam aids and protects terrorist including members of al Qaeda" President George W. Bush, State of the Union Address 2003

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=YPJCPcYCupY]WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld - THE ULTIMATE CLIP (Edited) - YouTube[/ame]

Yes - Terrorists but not 9/11. which is what we are talking about.
Bush never said Saddam was linked to 9/11

 

[KNB]

Yes - Terrorists but not 9/11. which is what we are talking about.
Bush never said Saddam was linked to 9/11

That's all the link that they needed. Stop trying to be right. Bush lied to you. Stop trying to defend him. His own administration's documents prove it. Stop typing and read them.

It's your lives and money that they're spending on their lies. STILL. It's 2014 now. When are Americans going to ask the most obvious question, "How do we ever know if we've won?"

 

[Theowl32]

I wonder how many of those terrorists Obama droned were linked to 911.

Notice folks how they do not give one shit about that?

Look up the collateral damage done by those.

Again, I support Obama doing that. I say....killem all.

Then again I am not a bloviated double talking hypocritical dick head liberal.

 

[Camp]

Then LINK IT shit for brains...or is tech your failing?

Here ya go. The good part is a 2:30 "Saddam aids and protects terrorist including members of al Qaeda" President George W. Bush, State of the Union Address 2003

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=YPJCPcYCupY]WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld - THE ULTIMATE CLIP (Edited) - YouTube[/ame]

Yes - Terrorists but not 9/11. which is what we are talking about.
Bush never said Saddam was linked to 9/11

No, he specifically mentions "al Qaeda" and al Qaeda had been determined to have been the attackers on 9/11. In fact, we were fighting a ground war with troops on the ground in daily combat when the President made this connection in his speech. We live in a country where if you are in any way connected to a murder when a murder occurs, you are charged with murder, even if you weren't there. He claimed a link, a connection, to the 9/11 attackers. That implies the possibility of collusion. He and his administration eluded to collusion when they knew there was none.

 

[KNB]

I wonder how many of those terrorists Obama droned were linked to 911.

Notice folks how they do not give one shit about that?

Look up the collateral damage done by those.

Again, I support Obama doing that. I say....killem all.

Then again I am not a bloviated double talking hypocritical dick head liberal.

Do you even think? You just said that you support the indiscriminate killing of civilians.

No, you're not a bloviating double-talking hypocritical dickhead liberal. You're a psychotic Fascist terrorist who wants to kill civilians to get his way.

You should try thinking more.

 

[peach174]

Bush didn't protect a fucking thing. He lied to invade and torture Iraq.

Obama is simply following Bush's plan, which wasn't even Bush's plan, because Bush isn't that smart, but the plan of the war profiteers who surrounded him.

Stop thinking that Obama is any different than Bush. The only difference is their skin color.

Torture?
They can now vote, young girls are being educated.
Our troops helped to build schools.
Now it's all going south because this administration does not understand what this is really all about.

And Bush had a clue? You obviously don't want to read Bush's declassified documents because they show that post-invasion planning was a complete catastro-fuck at least since 2002.

Everything that has happened in Iraq since Bush invaded is the fault of the Bush administration. You can't argue against Bush's declassified documents so you make up shit about building schools. Hooray! They have schools! They voted! It's almost like Dick Cheney's predictions from 1994 about Iraq becoming even more of a nightmare after Saddam Hussein was removed aren't happening now, right?

Rebuilding their country is the least that the US could do after annihilating hundreds of thousands of people over lies.

And yes, torture.
The Torture Archive

Building the schools is not made up.
We have Vets in our VFW who talk about it, because they helped build them.

 

[Kosh]

Another failed far left thread based on far left Obama drone propaganda.

The far left is not known for their facts, but their propaganda and celebration of the deaths of soldiers and as the world burns.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Of course, it's all Obama's fault. Now that we have that out of the way, Republicans are free to review the declassified Bush government documents which prove that the information on Iraq's WMD was fabricated to justify the preemptive invasion and all consequences thereafter.

The material presented in this electronic briefing book includes both essential pre-war documentation and documents produced or released subsequent to the start of military action in March 2003. Pre-war documentation includes the major unclassified U.S. and British assessments of Iraq's WMD programs; the IAEA and UNSCOM reports covering the final period prior to their 1998 departure, and between November 27, 2002, and February 2003; the transcript of a key speech by President Bush; a statement of U.S. policy toward combating WMD; the transcript of and slides for Secretary Powell's presentation to the U.N. on February 5, 2003; and documents from the 1980s and 1990's concerning various aspects of Iraqi WMD activities.
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

The documents suggest that the public relations push for war came before the intelligence analysis, which then conformed to public positions taken by Pentagon and White House officials. For example, a July 2002 draft of the "White Paper" ultimately issued by the CIA in October 2002 actually pre-dated the National Intelligence Estimate that the paper purportedly summarized, but which Congress did not insist on until September 2002.
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD

Washington, D.C., October 4, 2010 - For nearly a year before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the British government of Prime Minister Tony Blair collaborated closely with the George W. Bush administration to produce a far starker picture of the threat from Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) than was justified by intelligence at the time, according to British and American government documents posted today by the National Security Archive.

With the aim of strengthening the political case for going to war, both governments regularly coordinated their assessments, the records show, occasionally downplaying and even eliminating points of disagreement over the available intelligence. The new materials, acquired largely through the U.K. Freedom of Information Act and often featuring less redacted versions of previously released records, also reveal that the Blair administration, far earlier than has been appreciated until now, utilized public relations specialists to help craft the formal intelligence “white papers” about Iraq’s WMD program.

At one point, even though intelligence officials were skeptical, the British went so far as to incorporate in their white paper allegations about Saddam’s nuclear ambitions because they had been made publicly by President Bush and Vice President Cheney.
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

Washington, DC, March 19, 2013 – The U.S. invasion of Iraq turned out to be a textbook case of flawed assumptions, wrong-headed intelligence, propaganda manipulation, and administrative ad hockery, according to the National Security Archive's briefing book of declassified documents posted today to mark the 10th anniversary of the war.

The Archive's documentary primer includes the famous Downing Street memo ("intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy"), the POLO STEP PowerPoint invasion plans (assuming out of existence any possible insurgency), an FBI interview with Saddam Hussein in captivity (he said he lied about weapons of mass destruction to keep Iran guessing and deterred), and the infamous National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (wrong in its findings, but with every noted dissent turning out to be accurate).

"These dozen documents provide essential reading for anyone trying to understand the Iraq war," remarked Joyce Battle, Archive senior analyst who is compiling a definitive reference collection of declassified documents on the Iraq War. "At a moment when the public is debating the costs and consequences of the U.S. invasion, these primary sources refresh the memory and ground the discussion with contemporary evidence."

A decade after the U.S. invasion of Iraq (March 19, 2003), the debate continues over whether the United States truly believed that Iraq's supposed WMD capabilities posed an imminent danger, and whether the results of the engagement have been worth the high costs to both countries. To mark the 10 th anniversary of the start of hostilities, the National Security Archive has posted a selection of essential historical documents framing the key elements of one of America's most significant foreign policy choices of recent times. The records elucidate the decision to go to war, to administer a post-invasion Iraq, and to sell the idea to Congress, the media, and the public at large.
The Iraq War Ten Years After

And in other news, scientists report that the sun rises in the east.

 

[peach174]

I wonder how many of those terrorists Obama droned were linked to 911.

Notice folks how they do not give one shit about that?

Look up the collateral damage done by those.

Again, I support Obama doing that. I say....killem all.

Then again I am not a bloviated double talking hypocritical dick head liberal.

Do you even think? You just said that you support the indiscriminate killing of civilians.

No, you're not a bloviating double-talking hypocritical dickhead liberal. You're a psychotic Fascist terrorist who wants to kill civilians to get his way.

You should try thinking more.

Why do you do that?
You say things that was never said and then tell others to think.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Lied people Diedddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

You've got that right. Pretty low class of you to be joking about it.

Oh shut up and go bake cookies.

 

[thereisnospoon]

You've got that right. Pretty low class of you to be joking about it.

There is no evidence Bush lied. But you keep pedaling THAT lie.

He absolutely lied about the wmds.

You can keep believing that if it makes you feel better.
look, we all know you are a far left wing moonbat who is driven by 100% emotion and Zero percent intelligence.
On that note, you can cease posting. This is no place for you.

 

[peach174]

Here ya go. The good part is a 2:30 "Saddam aids and protects terrorist including members of al Qaeda" President George W. Bush, State of the Union Address 2003

WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld - THE ULTIMATE CLIP (Edited) - YouTube

Yes - Terrorists but not 9/11. which is what we are talking about.
Bush never said Saddam was linked to 9/11

No, he specifically mentions "al Qaeda" and al Qaeda had been determined to have been the attackers on 9/11. In fact, we were fighting a ground war with troops on the ground in daily combat when the President made this connection in his speech. We live in a country where if you are in any way connected to a murder when a murder occurs, you are charged with murder, even if you weren't there. He claimed a link, a connection, to the 9/11 attackers. That implies the possibility of collusion. He and his administration eluded to collusion when they knew there was none.

The media did that, but Bush and the administration did not say Saddam was linked to 9-11.
Bush said that Saddam had ties to al-Queda, the lefty media made it into ties to 9/11.

 

[KNB]

Of course, it's all Obama's fault. Now that we have that out of the way, Republicans are free to review the declassified Bush government documents which prove that the information on Iraq's WMD was fabricated to justify the preemptive invasion and all consequences thereafter.

The material presented in this electronic briefing book includes both essential pre-war documentation and documents produced or released subsequent to the start of military action in March 2003. Pre-war documentation includes the major unclassified U.S. and British assessments of Iraq's WMD programs; the IAEA and UNSCOM reports covering the final period prior to their 1998 departure, and between November 27, 2002, and February 2003; the transcript of a key speech by President Bush; a statement of U.S. policy toward combating WMD; the transcript of and slides for Secretary Powell's presentation to the U.N. on February 5, 2003; and documents from the 1980s and 1990's concerning various aspects of Iraqi WMD activities.
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction

Washington, DC, March 19, 2013 – The U.S. invasion of Iraq turned out to be a textbook case of flawed assumptions, wrong-headed intelligence, propaganda manipulation, and administrative ad hockery, according to the National Security Archive's briefing book of declassified documents posted today to mark the 10th anniversary of the war.

The Archive's documentary primer includes the famous Downing Street memo ("intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy"), the POLO STEP PowerPoint invasion plans (assuming out of existence any possible insurgency), an FBI interview with Saddam Hussein in captivity (he said he lied about weapons of mass destruction to keep Iran guessing and deterred), and the infamous National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (wrong in its findings, but with every noted dissent turning out to be accurate).

"These dozen documents provide essential reading for anyone trying to understand the Iraq war," remarked Joyce Battle, Archive senior analyst who is compiling a definitive reference collection of declassified documents on the Iraq War. "At a moment when the public is debating the costs and consequences of the U.S. invasion, these primary sources refresh the memory and ground the discussion with contemporary evidence."

A decade after the U.S. invasion of Iraq (March 19, 2003), the debate continues over whether the United States truly believed that Iraq's supposed WMD capabilities posed an imminent danger, and whether the results of the engagement have been worth the high costs to both countries. To mark the 10 th anniversary of the start of hostilities, the National Security Archive has posted a selection of essential historical documents framing the key elements of one of America's most significant foreign policy choices of recent times. The records elucidate the decision to go to war, to administer a post-invasion Iraq, and to sell the idea to Congress, the media, and the public at large.
The Iraq War Ten Years After

And in other news, scientists report that the sun rises in the east.

I see what you did there. You took something very important and tried to diminish it by referencing something trivial. It's a tactic used by those who don't have any intelligent responses. Like a liberal. Are you a stupid liberal? I think liberals are pretty damned stupid. Look at how unbelievably stupid the Teabagger wing of the Republican party is, and yet liberals can't get their sick Communist agenda passed? Liberals are pretty damned stupid. America is like that movie, Dumb and Dumber. Liberals are dumb and Conservatives are dumber, and yet they keep bumbling their way into other countries without realizing, "Wow, we're really fucking stupid!"

That's what happens when you spend trillions of dollars more on bombs than on books.

 

[thereisnospoon]

There is no evidence Bush lied. But you keep pedaling THAT lie.

He absolutely lied about the wmds.

There is no evidence of a lie. You know it, I know it, the world knows it.

The sad part is Sarah does know, but she refuses to believe.
She lies to herself.

 

[thereisnospoon]

He absolutely lied about the wmds.

ISIS Seizes Saddam's Old Chemical Weapons Plant, as Insurgency Creeps Across Borders

You were saying?

still saying he lied .... a plant isn't a weapon .

Moving the proverbial goal posts gets you no additional mileage here.
Neither does splitting hairs.
Your side loses and loses BIG on this.
Yiou should be cutting your losses and licking your boo boos.

 

[KNB]

Yes - Terrorists but not 9/11. which is what we are talking about.
Bush never said Saddam was linked to 9/11

No, he specifically mentions "al Qaeda" and al Qaeda had been determined to have been the attackers on 9/11. In fact, we were fighting a ground war with troops on the ground in daily combat when the President made this connection in his speech. We live in a country where if you are in any way connected to a murder when a murder occurs, you are charged with murder, even if you weren't there. He claimed a link, a connection, to the 9/11 attackers. That implies the possibility of collusion. He and his administration eluded to collusion when they knew there was none.

The media did that, but Bush and the administration did not say Saddam was linked to 9-11.
Bush said that Saddam had ties to al-Queda, the lefty media made it into ties to 9/11.

Bush went from "September 11, 2001" to "Saddam Hussein" in less than three sentences in the same speech.

If that wasn't proof enough, there are declassified government documents from the Bush administration. Read them.

 

[Camp]

You have to wonder why liberals are not pissed as hell that Obama did not conduct an investigation with an independent council and why Bush was never brought up on war crimes by the UN and the international community if it was so obvious he deliberately lied.

Let us behold the art of liberal double talk everyone.

Both Bush and Cheney have been convicted of war crimes by an international court. Your lack of basic knowledge on these issue continue's to be shocking.
And Obama prevented investigations and potential prosecutions for the war criminals in this country and the Hague.

 

[thereisnospoon]

He absolutely lied about the wmds.

You nean the ones the ISIS insurgents are in control of now?

Libs are so fucking stupid. They repeat the same crap and then when called on it either slink away or change the subject.
As to the OP, he might try toking up some more 420 so he can be even less believable and coherent.

yeah, the one that was destroyed in 1994 then buried by bombs during the invasion ... same one.

You and that idiot Sarah G are related? You must be.
Closing eyes and ears and believing does not make something a fact.
It only makes one appear foolish

 

[KNB]

ISIS Seizes Saddam's Old Chemical Weapons Plant, as Insurgency Creeps Across Borders

You were saying?

still saying he lied .... a plant isn't a weapon .

Moving the proverbial goal posts gets you no additional mileage here.
Neither does splitting hairs.
Your side loses and loses BIG on this.
Yiou should be cutting your losses and licking your boo boos.

There aren't any goal posts, douche. It's a fucking war in real life with people dying over rich men's lies. If you're so worried about ISIS having control of a chemical weapons plant then you need to be seriously asking the question, "Why did George W. Bush leave so many WMD in Iraq if that was the entire purpose of invading Iraq in the first place?"