Busting the Myth of Separation of Church and State

When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. You're an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
 
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Do you know how tiresome it is for you to make that same silly claim about separation of church and state not being in the constitution, and then somebody taking the time to explain it to you yet again? Ask hannity to give you some new material. It's just dumb to rehash this one again.

Instead of your rambling rant, why don't you PROVE to us what you think is the truth?


That was the point of my post. It's been proven to you hundreds of times already, but you are still stuck on that same whining point. At least whine about something new occasionally.

And, as usual, you have not presented a single salient point where "separation of church and state" is anywhere in the constitution.

Typical Leftist/Progressive tactic.
 
It's only Judeo Christianity the leftists go after. Because they know it's the one true God.
Public schools teach Islam and force children to convert to Islam and not a peep from the about any separation.

Fed-Up Marine Dad Confronts School Officials Over Daughter’s Mandatory Islam Assignment — Here’s How They Responded
The course in question was a history class and had lessons about Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and other religions. The father was banned for being an asshat and making threats of disruption.
The course on Islam was for 2 weeks, Christianity 2 days. Forcing children to take a pledge of Islamic faith is not teaching - it's forced indoctrination of a religion.
But no one was force to take a pledge of Islamic faith. And why does the length of time make a difference? I would assume most American students are more familiar with Christianity than Islam.

But thanks for validating the left have no problem with separation of church and state as long as Judeo Christianity is not involved.
What are you talking about?
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
Copying Arabic script without being told what it means is hardly being forced to take a pledge of faith.
 
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
 
The OP says "pastors should speak up". He has an agenda, he wants to push the 'Christian' religion and have 'Christians' run the government.

Sorry, if you want religion in government then you will have to accept Muslims running for office as they champion their religion as well. And Wiccans, and Hindus.

Religious whacks all through history attempt to get hold of the power of government so they can suppress all other religions.

Not here not ever. Your religion has no more value than any other.

There are already Muslims in elected offices that are pushing for Sharia to be accepted over state and federal laws.

Has anyone heard of a single mosque losing tax exempt status for either preaching Islam supersedes the US Constitution or those of the individual states?

You see, according to Leftists/Progressives, Christians and Jews cannot promote candidates but MUSLIMS CAN!!!
 
Do you know how tiresome it is for you to make that same silly claim about separation of church and state not being in the constitution, and then somebody taking the time to explain it to you yet again? Ask hannity to give you some new material. It's just dumb to rehash this one again.

Instead of your rambling rant, why don't you PROVE to us what you think is the truth?


That was the point of my post. It's been proven to you hundreds of times already, but you are still stuck on that same whining point. At least whine about something new occasionally.

And, as usual, you have not presented a single salient point where "separation of church and state" is anywhere in the constitution.

Typical Leftist/Progressive tactic.
NO ONE CLAIMS THOSE WORDS ARE IN THE CONSTITUTION. Geez.
 
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
More gymnastics to support government indoctrination of religion in schools - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.

Read what I wrote.
 
Nowhere can this be found in the constitution. Nowhere. It does say, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Period. Nothing more.

What's so hard to understand about that?

The article @ Myth Busted: ‘Separation of Church and State’ clearly relates how anti-religious organizations have conducted a campaign to frighten pastors from speaking on political ideals from their pulpits, often using outright lies as part of their threats.

It's about time pastors speak up.
Wrong.

The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, as determined by the Supreme Court.

"But that's not in the Constitution" is a failed and ignorant "argument."

Nope. If it can be shown that the "case law" is not founded on anything in the Constitution, that that case law is bad and should be overturned.

THUS, it is not a "failed and ignorant argument".
At least you're consistent at being wrong.

Separation of church and state can be found here in the Constitution:

“[T]he First Amendment's language, properly interpreted, had erected a wall of separation between Church and State.” McCollum v. Board of Education (1948)

Again, the Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, as determined by the Supreme Court, authorized by the doctrine of judicial review, Articles III and VI, and in accordance with the original intent and understanding of the Founding Generation.

“But that's not in the Constitution” is a failed and ignorant 'argument.'

You may disagree if you wish, ignore it to your heart's content, but that won't change the settled and accepted fact that the Supreme Court determines the meaning of the Constitution, a fundamental fact of law beyond dispute.

What if it was "IMproperly interpreted"?

YOu cite a ruling, but without the justification or reasoning for that ruling.

That is the Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Authority.
A "what if" speculation fallacy doesn't mitigate settled, accepted case law.
 
The OP says "pastors should speak up". He has an agenda, he wants to push the 'Christian' religion and have 'Christians' run the government.

Sorry, if you want religion in government then you will have to accept Muslims running for office as they champion their religion as well. And Wiccans, and Hindus.

Religious whacks all through history attempt to get hold of the power of government so they can suppress all other religions.

Not here not ever. Your religion has no more value than any other.

There are already Muslims in elected offices that are pushing for Sharia to be accepted over state and federal laws.
Who?

Has anyone heard of a single mosque losing tax exempt status for either preaching Islam supersedes the US Constitution or those of the individual states?
Why would they? That's not a violation of any IRS rules. No Christian Church has ever lost its exempt status for claiming Christianity supersedes the Constitution.

You see, according to Leftists/Progressives, Christians and Jews cannot promote candidates but MUSLIMS CAN!!!
Where has anyone claimed that?
 
It's only Judeo Christianity the leftists go after. Because they know it's the one true God.
Public schools teach Islam and force children to convert to Islam and not a peep from the about any separation.

Fed-Up Marine Dad Confronts School Officials Over Daughter’s Mandatory Islam Assignment — Here’s How They Responded
The course in question was a history class and had lessons about Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and other religions. The father was banned for being an asshat and making threats of disruption.
The course on Islam was for 2 weeks, Christianity 2 days. Forcing children to take a pledge of Islamic faith is not teaching - it's forced indoctrination of a religion.
But no one was force to take a pledge of Islamic faith. And why does the length of time make a difference? I would assume most American students are more familiar with Christianity than Islam.

But thanks for validating the left have no problem with separation of church and state as long as Judeo Christianity is not involved.
What are you talking about?
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
Copying Arabic script without being told what it means is hardly being forced to take a pledge of faith.
More gymnastics, now you lie again to support government indoctrination of kids into the Islamic faith.
 
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
More gymnastics to support government indoctrination of religion in schools - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.

Read what I wrote.

I read what you wrote. How on earth does controversy over copying calligraphy have anything to do with whether or not a student was prevented from doing a paper on Jesus...which she was not prevented from doing.
 
Do you know how tiresome it is for you to make that same silly claim about separation of church and state not being in the constitution, and then somebody taking the time to explain it to you yet again? Ask hannity to give you some new material. It's just dumb to rehash this one again.

Instead of your rambling rant, why don't you PROVE to us what you think is the truth?


That was the point of my post. It's been proven to you hundreds of times already, but you are still stuck on that same whining point. At least whine about something new occasionally.

And, as usual, you have not presented a single salient point where "separation of church and state" is anywhere in the constitution.

Typical Leftist/Progressive tactic.
The facts of law have been provided to you confirming you are wrong, but you ignore those facts - a tactic typical of most rightists and conservatives.
 
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
More gymnastics to support government indoctrination of religion in schools - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.

Read what I wrote.

I read what you wrote. How on earth does controversy over copying calligraphy have anything to do with whether or not a student was prevented from doing a paper on Jesus...which she was not prevented from doing.
Give you a 10 for your gymnastic spinning to support government religious indoctrination of children - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.
 
In Australia the churches contract all the homeless shelters, charity orgs and employment agencies. It's disgusting. They use tax payers money to push their crazy rubbish.
Austrailia is not bound by the U.S constitution. What they do there has no bearing on what we do here.
 
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
When a teacher asks a child to write about the 3 most influential people in their life, one of them turns out to be Jesus, and the teacher gives the child an 'F' and writes on the paper 'Remove Jesus from your essay', THAT is a problem. This happened recently, and the parents - and community - got appropriately pissed..
Except it didn't happen. Cerro Gordo Elementary School is criticized over fake Facebook picture - WWAY TV3
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
More gymnastics to support government indoctrination of religion in schools - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.

Read what I wrote.

I read what you wrote. How on earth does controversy over copying calligraphy have anything to do with whether or not a student was prevented from doing a paper on Jesus...which she was not prevented from doing.
It happens all over.

"Defendants' curriculum, practices, policies, actions, procedures, and customs promote the Islamic faith by requiring students to profess the five pillars of Islam and to write out faith statements of the religion. Defendants require that students write out and confess the Shahada, the Islamic Profession of Faith."

https://www.thomasmore.org/wp-conte...mic-Indoctrination-Complaint-Time-Stamped.pdf

SPIN BOY, SPIN!
 
The OP says "pastors should speak up". He has an agenda, he wants to push the 'Christian' religion and have 'Christians' run the government.

Sorry, if you want religion in government then you will have to accept Muslims running for office as they champion their religion as well. And Wiccans, and Hindus.

Religious whacks all through history attempt to get hold of the power of government so they can suppress all other religions.

Not here not ever. Your religion has no more value than any other.

There are already Muslims in elected offices that are pushing for Sharia to be accepted over state and federal laws.

Has anyone heard of a single mosque losing tax exempt status for either preaching Islam supersedes the US Constitution or those of the individual states?

You see, according to Leftists/Progressives, Christians and Jews cannot promote candidates but MUSLIMS CAN!!!
Only in your tiny brain is that so.
 
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
There you go again, doing gymnastics of lies to defend government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity. Your an ass for assuming Americans know all about Christianity. You're living proof of your delusion.

Schoolwork about Islam triggers backlash in Virginia county
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
More gymnastics to support government indoctrination of religion in schools - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.

Read what I wrote.

I read what you wrote. How on earth does controversy over copying calligraphy have anything to do with whether or not a student was prevented from doing a paper on Jesus...which she was not prevented from doing.
It happens all over.

"Defendants' curriculum, practices, policies, actions, procedures, and customs promote the Islamic faith by requiring students to profess the five pillars of Islam and to write out faith statements of the religion. Defendants require that students write out and confess the Shahada, the Islamic Profession of Faith."

https://www.thomasmore.org/wp-conte...mic-Indoctrination-Complaint-Time-Stamped.pdf

SPIN BOY, SPIN!
Why do you lie? Doing calligraphy and learning about Islam is not a profession of faith.
 
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Someone please show me the words 'Separation of church and state' in the Constitution. someone please show me the words 'Freedom FROM Religion'. Neither exist.
You can't have freedom "of" religion without freedom "from" religion. That doesn't have to be in the text to be obvious, otherwise how can you complain if people want to push shariah law?
 
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
What on earth does your response have to do with my post?
More gymnastics to support government indoctrination of religion in schools - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.

Read what I wrote.

I read what you wrote. How on earth does controversy over copying calligraphy have anything to do with whether or not a student was prevented from doing a paper on Jesus...which she was not prevented from doing.
It happens all over.

"Defendants' curriculum, practices, policies, actions, procedures, and customs promote the Islamic faith by requiring students to profess the five pillars of Islam and to write out faith statements of the religion. Defendants require that students write out and confess the Shahada, the Islamic Profession of Faith."

https://www.thomasmore.org/wp-conte...mic-Indoctrination-Complaint-Time-Stamped.pdf

SPIN BOY, SPIN!
Why do you lie?
Why do you have sex with sheep?
:lol: Since you can't refute my point, you get stupid, a mark of a loser. Show us exactly where the school was indoctrinating students.
 
More gymnastics to support government indoctrination of religion in schools - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.

Read what I wrote.

I read what you wrote. How on earth does controversy over copying calligraphy have anything to do with whether or not a student was prevented from doing a paper on Jesus...which she was not prevented from doing.
It happens all over.

"Defendants' curriculum, practices, policies, actions, procedures, and customs promote the Islamic faith by requiring students to profess the five pillars of Islam and to write out faith statements of the religion. Defendants require that students write out and confess the Shahada, the Islamic Profession of Faith."

https://www.thomasmore.org/wp-conte...mic-Indoctrination-Complaint-Time-Stamped.pdf

SPIN BOY, SPIN!
Why do you lie?
Why do you have sex with sheep?
:lol: Since you can't refute my point, you get stupid, a mark of a loser. Show us exactly where the school was indoctrinating students.
Since you cant refute my point, you get stupid, mark of a loser.

Hilarious watching the left support government indoctrination of religion - as long as it's not Judaism or Christianity.
 

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