CA democras are disgusting

[WinterBorn]

God forbid easily influenced children don't get arrested for being manipulated..

The intent may be noble behind this, but the execution, like most progressive plans, is where the issue is.

California Democrats legalize child prostitution

The unintended but predictable consequence of how the real villains — pimps and other traffickers in human misery — will respond to this new law isn't difficult to foresee. Pimping and pandering will still be against the law whether it involves running adult women or young girls. But legalizing child prostitution will only incentivize the increased exploitation of underage girls. Immunity from arrest means law enforcement can't interfere with minors engaging in prostitution — which translates into bigger and better cash flow for the pimps. Simply put, more time on the street and less time in jail means more money for pimps, and more victims for them to exploit.

As Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O'Malley, a national leader on human trafficking issues, told the media, "It just opens up the door for traffickers to use these kids to commit crimes and exploit them even worse." Another prosecutor insightfully observed that if traffickers wrote legislation to protect themselves, it would read like SB 1322.

Arresting them at least got them off the street, even if for a short amount of time, and gave law enforcement some leverage to try to convince obviously coerced people to rat out their pimps or enablers.

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

The same way they take any teenager home to their parents.

So, they arrest them?

No. They detain them. There is a difference.

 

[Eaglewings]

God forbid easily influenced children don't get arrested for being manipulated..

The intent may be noble behind this, but the execution, like most progressive plans, is where the issue is.

California Democrats legalize child prostitution

The unintended but predictable consequence of how the real villains — pimps and other traffickers in human misery — will respond to this new law isn't difficult to foresee. Pimping and pandering will still be against the law whether it involves running adult women or young girls. But legalizing child prostitution will only incentivize the increased exploitation of underage girls. Immunity from arrest means law enforcement can't interfere with minors engaging in prostitution — which translates into bigger and better cash flow for the pimps. Simply put, more time on the street and less time in jail means more money for pimps, and more victims for them to exploit.

As Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O'Malley, a national leader on human trafficking issues, told the media, "It just opens up the door for traffickers to use these kids to commit crimes and exploit them even worse." Another prosecutor insightfully observed that if traffickers wrote legislation to protect themselves, it would read like SB 1322.

Arresting them at least got them off the street, even if for a short amount of time, and gave law enforcement some leverage to try to convince obviously coerced people to rat out their pimps or enablers.

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

Come on Marty, your comments show that you do not understand what happens when a child is brought in from a sex ring.
The child usually is forced to have sex , the adult usually has some kind of control over them.

Again, how do you take an unwilling person into custody? Also, how does the cop know the person is underage? are all underage prostitutes required to carry ID.

The old system worked fine. You arrested them, got them in the system, found out they were underage, and got them help.

In a situation like busting a sex ring many of the minors have been held against their will, so of coarse they will be happy to get away from their pimps..
The ones who want to be there will be forced to be assessed by CFS ( child and family services ), put into juvenile hall and then put into the government system for counseling and a foster home.
If they run away from the foster home well then when they get busted in the future they will have a better understanding for future government actions.

 

[TNHarley]

The intent may be noble behind this, but the execution, like most progressive plans, is where the issue is.

California Democrats legalize child prostitution

Arresting them at least got them off the street, even if for a short amount of time, and gave law enforcement some leverage to try to convince obviously coerced people to rat out their pimps or enablers.

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

Come on Marty, your comments show that you do not understand what happens when a child is brought in from a sex ring.
The child usually is forced to have sex , the adult usually has some kind of control over them.

Again, how do you take an unwilling person into custody? Also, how does the cop know the person is underage? are all underage prostitutes required to carry ID.

The old system worked fine. You arrested them, got them in the system, found out they were underage, and got them help.

In a situation like busting a sex ring many of the minors have been held against their will, so of coarse they will be happy to get away from their pimps..
The ones who want to be there will be forced to be assessed by CFS ( child and family services ), put into juvenile hall and then put into the government system for counseling and a foster home.
If they run away from the foster home well then when they get busted in the future they will have a better understanding for future government actions.

link?

 

[Eaglewings]

Sounds like a bill to protect sex traffickers and putting children in harm's way.

Yeah....it's a demoquack law for sure

Clinton's complained their orgy island needs restocking....

Trump is too old to have sex ( even Viagra doesn't help) so he byes his wife Chanel purses instead..

 

[martybegan]

The intent may be noble behind this, but the execution, like most progressive plans, is where the issue is.

California Democrats legalize child prostitution

Arresting them at least got them off the street, even if for a short amount of time, and gave law enforcement some leverage to try to convince obviously coerced people to rat out their pimps or enablers.

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

The same way they take any teenager home to their parents.

So, they arrest them?

No. They detain them. There is a difference.

Again, what was wrong with the old system?? Why are some prosecutors, who are champions of wrecking smuggling and sex rings, not happy with this law?

 

[CowboyTed]

God forbid easily influenced children don't get arrested for being manipulated..

The intent may be noble behind this, but the execution, like most progressive plans, is where the issue is.

California Democrats legalize child prostitution

The unintended but predictable consequence of how the real villains — pimps and other traffickers in human misery — will respond to this new law isn't difficult to foresee. Pimping and pandering will still be against the law whether it involves running adult women or young girls. But legalizing child prostitution will only incentivize the increased exploitation of underage girls. Immunity from arrest means law enforcement can't interfere with minors engaging in prostitution — which translates into bigger and better cash flow for the pimps. Simply put, more time on the street and less time in jail means more money for pimps, and more victims for them to exploit.

As Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O'Malley, a national leader on human trafficking issues, told the media, "It just opens up the door for traffickers to use these kids to commit crimes and exploit them even worse." Another prosecutor insightfully observed that if traffickers wrote legislation to protect themselves, it would read like SB 1322.

Arresting them at least got them off the street, even if for a short amount of time, and gave law enforcement some leverage to try to convince obviously coerced people to rat out their pimps or enablers.

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

They are juveniles, law been tested a few times and even in Texas the it seemed reasonable...

In 1993, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of a Dallas curfew ordinance in Qutb v. Strauss. The 5th Circuit examined the ordinance under strict-scrutiny review and upheld it. The court concluded that the city, by including exceptions to the ordinance, most notably exceptions for minors exercising their First Amendment rights, had enacted a narrowly drawn ordinance that respected the rights of juveniles and allowed the city to meet its goal of increasing juvenile safety and decreasing juvenile crime.
Curfews, loitering & freedom of association | First Amendment Center – news, commentary, analysis on free speech, press, religion, assembly, petition

 

[Eaglewings]

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

Come on Marty, your comments show that you do not understand what happens when a child is brought in from a sex ring.
The child usually is forced to have sex , the adult usually has some kind of control over them.

Again, how do you take an unwilling person into custody? Also, how does the cop know the person is underage? are all underage prostitutes required to carry ID.

The old system worked fine. You arrested them, got them in the system, found out they were underage, and got them help.

In a situation like busting a sex ring many of the minors have been held against their will, so of coarse they will be happy to get away from their pimps..
The ones who want to be there will be forced to be assessed by CFS ( child and family services ), put into juvenile hall and then put into the government system for counseling and a foster home.
If they run away from the foster home well then when they get busted in the future they will have a better understanding for future government actions.

link?

Just a few for now...

Massive online pedophile ring busted by cops

VT Exclusive: Largest Pedophile Ring in History, 70,000 Members, Heads of State, the Rats Scramble | Veterans Today

Accused global sex-trafficking ring busted with U.S., international arrests

Norway Child Sex Ring Busted- “Operation Darkroom” – Victurus Libertas



Wow look at this one...VT Exclusive: Largest Pedophile Ring in History, 70,000 Members, Heads of State, the Rats Scramble | Veterans Today

 

[martybegan]

The intent may be noble behind this, but the execution, like most progressive plans, is where the issue is.

California Democrats legalize child prostitution

Arresting them at least got them off the street, even if for a short amount of time, and gave law enforcement some leverage to try to convince obviously coerced people to rat out their pimps or enablers.

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

Come on Marty, your comments show that you do not understand what happens when a child is brought in from a sex ring.
The child usually is forced to have sex , the adult usually has some kind of control over them.

Again, how do you take an unwilling person into custody? Also, how does the cop know the person is underage? are all underage prostitutes required to carry ID.

The old system worked fine. You arrested them, got them in the system, found out they were underage, and got them help.

In a situation like busting a sex ring many of the minors have been held against their will, so of coarse they will be happy to get away from their pimps..
The ones who want to be there will be forced to be assessed by CFS ( child and family services ), put into juvenile hall and then put into the government system for counseling and a foster home.
If they run away from the foster home well then when they get busted in the future they will have a better understanding for future government actions.

You are assuming some ideal concept of a teenage runaway sex worker. How about just arrest them, get them in the system, and deal with them with the threat of law enforcement to get them to cooperate. You are not dealing with princes and princesses here, you are dealing with probably life hardened street kids.

 

[Eaglewings]

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

The same way they take any teenager home to their parents.

So, they arrest them?

No. They detain them. There is a difference.

Again, what was wrong with the old system?? Why are some prosecutors, who are champions of wrecking smuggling and sex rings, not happy with this law?

For one : most of the kids are victims...

The kids in a busted sex ring are victims, not prostitutes..( they will not be referred as a prostitute in the eyes of the court)

The ones who want that lifestyle will run away from a foster home once placed, but some will find refuge..

 

[buckeye45_73]

If you didn't have Fake News to dictate your thoughts how would you ever survive?

So you're saying the article is untrue?

The article that says that CA legalized child prostitution? Yep, I am saying it is untrue. In fact, I have already stated that it is an outright lie.

It removes angry bargaining power with the prostitutes, so now they don't have any reason to turn in the pimps......sounds like a great plan......remove leverage from the cops.....nice thinking liberals.

 

[Eaglewings]

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

Come on Marty, your comments show that you do not understand what happens when a child is brought in from a sex ring.
The child usually is forced to have sex , the adult usually has some kind of control over them.

Again, how do you take an unwilling person into custody? Also, how does the cop know the person is underage? are all underage prostitutes required to carry ID.

The old system worked fine. You arrested them, got them in the system, found out they were underage, and got them help.

In a situation like busting a sex ring many of the minors have been held against their will, so of coarse they will be happy to get away from their pimps..
The ones who want to be there will be forced to be assessed by CFS ( child and family services ), put into juvenile hall and then put into the government system for counseling and a foster home.
If they run away from the foster home well then when they get busted in the future they will have a better understanding for future government actions.

You are assuming some ideal concept of a teenage runaway sex worker. How about just arrest them, get them in the system, and deal with them with the threat of law enforcement to get them to cooperate. You are not dealing with princes and princesses here, you are dealing with probably life hardened street kids.

The under aged will still be brought in, this law keeps the word prostitutes off of there record.

If the kid wants that kind of life ..well they will go back and probably be murdered or become an addict.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Sounds like a bill to protect sex traffickers and putting children in harm's way.

Yeah....it's a demoquack law for sure

Clinton's complained their orgy island needs restocking....

Trump is too old to have sex ( even Viagra doesn't help) so he byes his wife Chanel purses instead..

Uh old people have sex.....old folks homes are notorious for that.

 

[martybegan]

God forbid easily influenced children don't get arrested for being manipulated..

The intent may be noble behind this, but the execution, like most progressive plans, is where the issue is.

California Democrats legalize child prostitution

The unintended but predictable consequence of how the real villains — pimps and other traffickers in human misery — will respond to this new law isn't difficult to foresee. Pimping and pandering will still be against the law whether it involves running adult women or young girls. But legalizing child prostitution will only incentivize the increased exploitation of underage girls. Immunity from arrest means law enforcement can't interfere with minors engaging in prostitution — which translates into bigger and better cash flow for the pimps. Simply put, more time on the street and less time in jail means more money for pimps, and more victims for them to exploit.

As Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O'Malley, a national leader on human trafficking issues, told the media, "It just opens up the door for traffickers to use these kids to commit crimes and exploit them even worse." Another prosecutor insightfully observed that if traffickers wrote legislation to protect themselves, it would read like SB 1322.

Arresting them at least got them off the street, even if for a short amount of time, and gave law enforcement some leverage to try to convince obviously coerced people to rat out their pimps or enablers.

Cops can still take them in. They are just not arrested. They get help instead of being raped in county lockup.

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

They are juveniles, law been tested a few times and even in Texas the it seemed reasonable...

In 1993, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of a Dallas curfew ordinance in Qutb v. Strauss. The 5th Circuit examined the ordinance under strict-scrutiny review and upheld it. The court concluded that the city, by including exceptions to the ordinance, most notably exceptions for minors exercising their First Amendment rights, had enacted a narrowly drawn ordinance that respected the rights of juveniles and allowed the city to meet its goal of increasing juvenile safety and decreasing juvenile crime.
Curfews, loitering & freedom of association | First Amendment Center – news, commentary, analysis on free speech, press, religion, assembly, petition

This is an even dumber law you are referencing.

 

[Eaglewings]

If you didn't have Fake News to dictate your thoughts how would you ever survive?

So you're saying the article is untrue?

The article that says that CA legalized child prostitution? Yep, I am saying it is untrue. In fact, I have already stated that it is an outright lie.

It removes angry bargaining power with the prostitutes, so now they don't have any reason to turn in the pimps......sounds like a great plan......remove leverage from the cops.....nice thinking liberals.

Nothing will change in the charges for the pimps, or ring leaders...it is for the protection of the minor not the adults

 

[martybegan]

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

The same way they take any teenager home to their parents.

So, they arrest them?

No. They detain them. There is a difference.

Again, what was wrong with the old system?? Why are some prosecutors, who are champions of wrecking smuggling and sex rings, not happy with this law?

For one : most of the kids are victims...

The kids in a busted sex ring are victims, not prostitutes..( they will not be referred as a prostitute in the eyes of the court)

The ones who want that lifestyle will run away from a foster home once placed, but some will find refuge..

That would only be the case if they were convicted, and for minors that are indeed being coerced, that shouldn't occur.

 

[TNHarley]

How does a cop take an unwilling person into custody without arresting them?

Come on Marty, your comments show that you do not understand what happens when a child is brought in from a sex ring.
The child usually is forced to have sex , the adult usually has some kind of control over them.

Again, how do you take an unwilling person into custody? Also, how does the cop know the person is underage? are all underage prostitutes required to carry ID.

The old system worked fine. You arrested them, got them in the system, found out they were underage, and got them help.

In a situation like busting a sex ring many of the minors have been held against their will, so of coarse they will be happy to get away from their pimps..
The ones who want to be there will be forced to be assessed by CFS ( child and family services ), put into juvenile hall and then put into the government system for counseling and a foster home.
If they run away from the foster home well then when they get busted in the future they will have a better understanding for future government actions.

link?

Just a few for now...

Massive online pedophile ring busted by cops

VT Exclusive: Largest Pedophile Ring in History, 70,000 Members, Heads of State, the Rats Scramble | Veterans Today

Accused global sex-trafficking ring busted with U.S., international arrests

Norway Child Sex Ring Busted- “Operation Darkroom” – Victurus Libertas



Wow look at this one...VT Exclusive: Largest Pedophile Ring in History, 70,000 Members, Heads of State, the Rats Scramble | Veterans Today

Oh.. I thought you were saying that's what this bill did. Because I saw no such thing lol.

 

[WinterBorn]

If you didn't have Fake News to dictate your thoughts how would you ever survive?

So you're saying the article is untrue?

The article that says that CA legalized child prostitution? Yep, I am saying it is untrue. In fact, I have already stated that it is an outright lie.

It removes angry bargaining power with the prostitutes, so now they don't have any reason to turn in the pimps......sounds like a great plan......remove leverage from the cops.....nice thinking liberals.

Oh, so you ask one question, get an answer, then argue a completely different point? Interesting tactic.

But the law did NOT, as the article claimed, make child prostitution legal. And that is a huge point that cannot be overlooked.

It removes one bargaining point and allows for another. If the kid wants out, they turn in the pimp (and whatever johns they know) and get into a foster home to start over. And this way they do not have a criminal record that pops up every time they apply for a job or have a background check run.

 

[Eaglewings]

Just so you know , read my remark...and see how the Redstate twists and lies just like some of the democratic links.

I read the link and I made my summarization from the parts of the bill the site included. It's a stupid law and does nothing to help children being used in sex trafficking.

A child should never be called a prostitute or a criminal, of coarse CFS ( child and family services} gets involved because they are a minor

Sorry but if a child is selling itself for sex or committing crimes they are a prostitute or a criminal ....welcome to reality

Then people wonder why this nation is overrun with snowflakes

Across the nation, most women and children are held against their will in these sex rings... After a big bust the sex ring offender goes to jail and the child is brought into CFS and are a part of the governments responsibility to help them until they find a home.

If the child wants to do this well of coarse they will find a way to run away, but most are held against their will..

Some have been kidnapped ..

yes, because letting them go is safer than taking them in.

Read My Lips....lol ( who says that? )

They do not let them go...they are in the governments protection ... they are considered victims not a criminal

The ones who want to keep doing it , well you can not force anyone until they are ready...

This is to protect the ones who want help..

Why should a kid be called a prostitute if they were really victims..?

Again in the eyes of the court they will be treated as victims for the right kind of help, not just throw them in juvenile hall.

 

[Eaglewings]

Come on Marty, your comments show that you do not understand what happens when a child is brought in from a sex ring.
The child usually is forced to have sex , the adult usually has some kind of control over them.

Again, how do you take an unwilling person into custody? Also, how does the cop know the person is underage? are all underage prostitutes required to carry ID.

The old system worked fine. You arrested them, got them in the system, found out they were underage, and got them help.

In a situation like busting a sex ring many of the minors have been held against their will, so of coarse they will be happy to get away from their pimps..
The ones who want to be there will be forced to be assessed by CFS ( child and family services ), put into juvenile hall and then put into the government system for counseling and a foster home.
If they run away from the foster home well then when they get busted in the future they will have a better understanding for future government actions.

link?

Just a few for now...

Massive online pedophile ring busted by cops

VT Exclusive: Largest Pedophile Ring in History, 70,000 Members, Heads of State, the Rats Scramble | Veterans Today

Accused global sex-trafficking ring busted with U.S., international arrests

Norway Child Sex Ring Busted- “Operation Darkroom” – Victurus Libertas



Wow look at this one...VT Exclusive: Largest Pedophile Ring in History, 70,000 Members, Heads of State, the Rats Scramble | Veterans Today

Oh.. I thought you were saying that's what this bill did. Because I saw no such thing lol.

Oh sorry..lol... this is usually how they work across the nation

https://www.dss.virginia.gov/files/...s/investigation/B032-01-0974-09-eng-07-14.pdf

 

[martybegan]

I read the link and I made my summarization from the parts of the bill the site included. It's a stupid law and does nothing to help children being used in sex trafficking.

A child should never be called a prostitute or a criminal, of coarse CFS ( child and family services} gets involved because they are a minor

Sorry but if a child is selling itself for sex or committing crimes they are a prostitute or a criminal ....welcome to reality

Then people wonder why this nation is overrun with snowflakes

Across the nation, most women and children are held against their will in these sex rings... After a big bust the sex ring offender goes to jail and the child is brought into CFS and are a part of the governments responsibility to help them until they find a home.

If the child wants to do this well of coarse they will find a way to run away, but most are held against their will..

Some have been kidnapped ..

yes, because letting them go is safer than taking them in.

Read My Lips....lol ( who says that? )

They do not let them go...they are in the governments protection ... they are considered victims not a criminal

The ones who want to keep doing it , well you can not force anyone until they are ready...

This is to protect the ones who want help..

Why should a kid be called a prostitute if they were really victims..?

Again in the eyes of the court they will be treated as victims for the right kind of help, not just throw them in juvenile hall.

Actually if you kept it as a criminal act, you COULD help those who don't want help, because they would remain in the system.

So basically abandon the ones who don't want help?

Prosecutors used the charges as leverage to go after the actual criminals, that's just gone POOF.