Call for boycott of the rose bowl parade

[Dutch]

If you believe in an afterlife as I do, then there is no guarantee that all is forgiven. Will God forgive serial killers?

I am beginning to wonder if this will go anywhere.

You are the believer.......what does the bible say about forgiveness of sin?

Shit.......you really think you will be sent to hell if you don't avoid a parade that has some gay people? That kind of fear has to be a bummer.

I am well aware that the bible says that sinners with faith in God will be forgiven if asked. I am also aware that it says that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Draw your own conclusion.

It also says we should stone adulterous women. So if give the chance you would practice this also?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

due to gay marriage being shoved down people's throats despite the parade having nothing to do with social issues or politics. And the aids brigade denies there's an agenda. Read teh comments, they boast about how they love shoving it in people's faces.

SoCal Woman Calls For Rose Parade Boycott Over Same-Sex Wedding Float « CBS Los Angeles

You sound just like the nitwits back in 1954 whining about desegregation being shoved down everyone’s throat.

 

[novasteve]

Your skin color is not the same as cock up the ass

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If you believe in an afterlife as I do, then there is no guarantee that all is forgiven. Will God forgive serial killers?

I am beginning to wonder if this will go anywhere.

You are the believer.......what does the bible say about forgiveness of sin?

Shit.......you really think you will be sent to hell if you don't avoid a parade that has some gay people? That kind of fear has to be a bummer.

I am well aware that the bible says that sinners with faith in God will be forgiven if asked. I am also aware that it says that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Draw your own conclusion.

The Constitutional conclusion is that the bible and other religious dogma are legally irrelevant.

Thankfully.

Heaven is a myth, equal protection under the law is a fact; and in accordance with that fact same-sex couples have the Constitutional right to access marriage law.

You and other theists are at liberty to hate homosexuals as your faith instructs you, but you may not seek to codify that hate.

 

[novasteve]

Equal protection means incestuous couples must be allowed to marry

 

[OODA_Loop]

Heaven is a myth, equal protection under the law is a fact; and in accordance with that fact same-sex couples have the Constitutional right to access marriage law.

You and other theists are at liberty to hate homosexuals as your faith instructs you, but you may not seek to codify that hate.

Not really. My state constitution codifies it.

SCOTUS affirmed a state's right to do so in Windsor.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am beginning to wonder if this will go anywhere.

You are the believer.......what does the bible say about forgiveness of sin?

Shit.......you really think you will be sent to hell if you don't avoid a parade that has some gay people? That kind of fear has to be a bummer.

I am well aware that the bible says that sinners with faith in God will be forgiven if asked. I am also aware that it says that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Draw your own conclusion.

The Constitutional conclusion is that the bible and other religious dogma are legally irrelevant.

Thankfully.

Heaven is a myth,

You stupid ass, science has proven that there are other universes when they found evidence of pre-existing black holes during the Big Bang that left their mark in the universal background radiation.

There is no evidence to say that what we call Heaven is not one of them.

equal protection under the law is a fact; and in accordance with that fact same-sex couples have the Constitutional right to access marriage law.

Now you talk like you are an authority when all you are is an internet poseur.

You and other theists are at liberty to hate homosexuals as your faith instructs you, but you may not seek to codify that hate.

No one has been 'hating' gays. And in this democratic republic we certainly may codify anything we want by constitutional amendment.

 

[Jughead]

I am beginning to wonder if this will go anywhere.

You are the believer.......what does the bible say about forgiveness of sin?

Shit.......you really think you will be sent to hell if you don't avoid a parade that has some gay people? That kind of fear has to be a bummer.

I am well aware that the bible says that sinners with faith in God will be forgiven if asked. I am also aware that it says that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Draw your own conclusion.

The Constitutional conclusion is that the bible and other religious dogma are legally irrelevant.

Thankfully.

Heaven is a myth, equal protection under the law is a fact; and in accordance with that fact same-sex couples have the Constitutional right to access marriage law.

You and other theists are at liberty to hate homosexuals as your faith instructs you, but you may not seek to codify that hate.

I also have a right under the constitution to religious freedoms, and that means that I do not have to acknowledge homosexuality.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I am well aware that the bible says that sinners with faith in God will be forgiven if asked. I am also aware that it says that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Draw your own conclusion.

The Constitutional conclusion is that the bible and other religious dogma are legally irrelevant.

Thankfully.

Heaven is a myth, equal protection under the law is a fact; and in accordance with that fact same-sex couples have the Constitutional right to access marriage law.

You and other theists are at liberty to hate homosexuals as your faith instructs you, but you may not seek to codify that hate.

I also have a right under the constitution to religious freedoms, and that means that I do not have to acknowledge homosexuality.

What do you mean by "acknowledge" in this case. Specifically?

 

[rightwinger]

I am well aware that the bible says that sinners with faith in God will be forgiven if asked. I am also aware that it says that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Draw your own conclusion.

The Constitutional conclusion is that the bible and other religious dogma are legally irrelevant.

Thankfully.

Heaven is a myth, equal protection under the law is a fact; and in accordance with that fact same-sex couples have the Constitutional right to access marriage law.

You and other theists are at liberty to hate homosexuals as your faith instructs you, but you may not seek to codify that hate.

I also have a right under the constitution to religious freedoms, and that means that I do not have to acknowledge homosexuality.

You do not have to do anything. You are free to hate anyone you wish

What you can't do is require the government to enforce your hate

 

[novasteve]

Funny how libfags use the government to ban everything they don't approve of

 

[Seawytch]

Why?

Because most of the time they flaunt their gaynes, what ever they wear is small, flambouyant, and stupid looking.

Vis a vis a 10 Gallon cowboy hat, boots with rhinestones and a pointed toe driving a 1 ton Ford Ranger with extra large tail pipes to Wal-Mart to buy steaks.

And the Truck Nutz...don't forget the truck nutz...

 

[rightwinger]

Doggone it! The Rose Bowl Parade and game have been a tradition in my household for decades. It is a great way to relax in front of the TV on New Year's Day while getting over a hangover. As my son will be watching, looks like we will skip the parade, and just watch the game.

Good choice

Football is a manly game
Watching a parade full of flowers could turn your son gay

Well, our faith does not condone homosexuality, so it would clearly set a bad example. At his age he should not have to worry about why there is a conflict between his faith and a gay float on a parade.

You can't be too careful with a boy that age. Gays are actively recruiting boys to play for their team. Football is a safe bet. You just have to explain away the QB having his hands in the centers crotch. Broadway shows are off limits, so is watching A&E
I suggest a steady diet of Chick-filet to keep the gay away

 

[Seawytch]

No parent wants to have to explain why two guys are kissing on top of a float

Why? It's not difficult.

Kid: Why are those guys kissing on that float?
Parent: They love each other and just got married.
Kid: Oh...can I have pudding?

 

[rightwinger]

Funny how libfags use the government to ban everything they don't approve of

It is conservatives using the government to ban gay marriage.

 

[Katzndogz]

non tolerant Christians.....no surprise there!

Call me what you want, however if I have to choose between renouncing my faith or not acknowledging homosexuality, there is no contest, my faith supersedes all else. My faith has been with me a lifetime, and will be with me till my final breath.

You sound like those people that were shocked and apalled when Mike and Carol Brady slept in the same bed in The Brady Bunch. You can bitch and moan all you want but this will not even be a issue in ten years when your son and his generation will look back and wonder what the big deal was.

In ten years, it won't be any more of an issue than an animal brothel is. In ten years, we'll be like Sweden, trying (and failing) to pass laws against raping dogs and cats. In ten years, politicians will be running on platforms to legalize some forms of pedophilia like the Green Party just did in Germany.

If you want to know what we will be like in ten years, just look at those places that normalized homosexuality ten years or more ago. It's not an issue. What are the issues are further forms of perversion.

 

[novasteve]

No parent wants to have to explain why two guys are kissing on top of a float

Why? It's not difficult.

Kid: Why are those guys kissing on that float?
Parent: They love each other and just got married.
Kid: Oh...can I have pudding?

They have studies on this and the younger kids are they think it is odd. Libs view the study as meaning more indoctrination is needed at younger ages, and this is the result.

 

[novasteve]

Funny how libfags use the government to ban everything they don't approve of

It is conservatives using the government to ban gay marriage.

It was never allowed .

 

[Seawytch]

What did Jesus say about gay people?

Jesus said some are born gay.

Here Jesus refers to "eunuchs who have been so from birth." This terminology ("born eunuchs") was used in the ancient world to refer to homosexual men. Jesus indicates that being a "born eunuch" is a gift from God.
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Some Christians confidently assert that God did not create homosexual people "that way." This is important because they realize if God did create gays "that way," rejecting them would be tantamount to rejecting God’s work in creation. In pressing their “creation order” argument, some Christians are fond of saying, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!" To bolster their position, they often cite Jesus’ words in Matthew 19:4-5, where he responds to a question about whether divorce is permissible:

“Jesus answered, ‘Have you not read that the One who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh”? Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate.’ ”

From these words, some Christians draw the conclusion that heterosexuality is the creation norm and, thus, heterosexual marriage is the only legitimate way for people to form romantic relationships. Ironically, Jesus’ own words in this very same passage refute these conclusions.

As the dialogue continues, Jesus’ disciples are disturbed by his strict teaching on divorce. The disciples say that if divorce is not a ready option, perhaps it would be best for a man not to marry a woman. Jesus responds:

“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

Here Jesus identifies three classes of men who should not marry women. Taking his categories in reverse order, first, there are those who have made themselves “eunuchs” for the kingdom of heaven, i.e., those who foreswear marriage to better serve God. Second, he mentions those who have been “made eunuchs by others,” an apparent reference to castrated males. But Jesus mentions a third category — eunuchs who were born that way. Some might argue that Jesus was referring to males born without testicles, but this would be extremely rare. Moreover, this interpretation ignores how the term “born eunuchs” was used in other literature of the time.

In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture (as reflected in the Talmud), “natural” or “born” eunuchs were not associated with missing testicles. Rather, they were associated with stereotypically effeminate characteristics and behavior (just like modern gay men), and were thought by Rabbi Eliezer to be subject to “cure” (just like modern gays). Moreover, as we have also seen, eunuchs were commonly associated with homosexual desire. (For a complete discussion of the term "born eunuch" and the connection with homosexuality, see The Early Church Welcomed a Gay Man.) As a reasonably informed person of his time, Jesus would have been aware of this common view of eunuchs. Yet he very matter-of-factly asserts that some people are simply born that way. The implication of his statement is profound — God created gay people the way they are! Jesus says so.

Unlike Rabbi Eliezer, Jesus feels no need to “cure” these born eunuchs. He speaks no words of condemnation. Rather he lists people born gay alongside another honored class (eunuchs for the kingdom), and accepts them as a natural part of God’s creation order.

Thus, when Matthew 19 is read as a whole, we see Jesus teaches that most people are created for heterosexual marriage. (We too accept this as God’s predominant creation paradigm.) But, unlike some modern Christians, Jesus does not see this as the only honorable way to live. He acknowledges that some human beings have been created by God to follow a less common, but equally legitimate path. There are some who have been eunuchs from birth — made that way by God.

Would Jesus Discriminate? - Jesus said some are born gay

Jesus did not ever directly address homosexuality. He did however define marriage as between one man and one woman when he was asked about marriage. This implies that he would not accept that marriage could exist between two men or two women.

Jesus also said that we need to obey the commandments. One of which states "do not fornicate" which is any sexual act outside of marriage (adultery). Since Jesus said that marriage can only occur between a man and woman this means that any homosexual act is considered by him to be adultery.

In that passage, Jesus was talking about divorce. He actually spoke out against divorce, unlike consenting adult relationships between same sex partners... a topic upon which he was mum.

Do you worry about your children watching divorced people on TV? Do you boycott a parade if they show divorced people on it?

 

[rightwinger]

Funny how libfags use the government to ban everything they don't approve of

It is conservatives using the government to ban gay marriage.

It was never allowed .

Then why did conservatives pass laws to ban it?