Can Atheists be Moral?

[Grumblenuts]

Can I get an informative on ^that, Hollie?

 

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Fuck me. I fucked up the link to ding's fuck up too. Here's the right link and the kicker is that he went on to respond to his misquote as though I had been the author, getting himself all confuzzled in the process:

We need to be pure to enter heaven.

Do we? Wasn’t that the point of reconciling justice with mercy through the cross?

Wasn’t the point of it all to allow Christ to carry our guilt so that we could be free to see ourselves as we really are so that we could change our ways?

Arguing the point with me instead of whoever wrote "We need to be pure to enter heaven."
LOL!

I never cared who the author was. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

The response was based on content of the quote, not who the author is.

 

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Fuck me. I fucked up the link to ding's fuck up too. Here's the right link and the kicker is that he went on to respond to his misquote as though I had been the author, getting himself all confuzzled in the process:

We need to be pure to enter heaven.

Do we? Wasn’t that the point of reconciling justice with mercy through the cross?

Wasn’t the point of it all to allow Christ to carry our guilt so that we could be free to see ourselves as we really are so that we could change our ways?

Arguing the point with me instead of whoever wrote "We need to be pure to enter heaven."
LOL!

Given that yours was the only post that made that point, there was no one else to respond to but you.

Your powers of observation and logic are sorely lacking.

But hey, let’s keep talking about this. I don’t mind.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Sorry, your troll-like penchant for knee-jerk denial of the obvious has been more than satisfactorily exposed and explored. It was somewhat intriguing to see how long you could persist, but enough is enough. You are dismissed.

 

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Sorry, your troll-like penchant for knee-jerk denial of the obvious has been more than satisfactorily exposed and explored. It was somewhat intriguing to see how long you could persist, but enough is enough. You are dismissed.

The obvious is that you wrote a post put part of it in quotes never made a citation and I replied to the content of what you wrote.

Had I been replying to the author of the quote instead of the content of the quote my response would have been that the author was too stupid to see that he wrote a post without providing a citation and then failed to address the content of the reply to his post. That’s what’s obvious to me.

 

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Can we please get more intelligent and interesting people here instead of angry militant atheists who throw tantrums like spoiled children?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Grumblenuts intentionally denies examination because he is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of Grumblenuts . Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Grumblenuts seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership. Grumblenuts has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Grumblenuts dismisses his defeats and ignores his incongruities. Grumblenuts desires big government and uses big government to implement his morally relativistic social policies. Grumblenuts is religious. The religious nature of Grumblenuts explains his hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Grumblenuts dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. Grumblenuts sees no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Grumblenuts practices moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. Grumblenuts worships science but is the first to reject it when it suits his purpose. Grumblenuts can be identified by an external locus of control. Grumblenuts religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. Grumblenuts practices critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what he does not believe to arrive at what he does believe without ever having to examine what he believes. Grumblenuts confuses critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something Grumblenuts never does.

Wow, even ding's most impressive fit of crying was stolen without attribution!

Bunny's 'bout to stomp on some shameless heathen trash!

 

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Grumblenuts intentionally denies examination because he is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of Grumblenuts . Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Grumblenuts seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership. Grumblenuts has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Grumblenuts dismisses his defeats and ignores his incongruities. Grumblenuts desires big government and uses big government to implement his morally relativistic social policies. Grumblenuts is religious. The religious nature of Grumblenuts explains his hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Grumblenuts dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. Grumblenuts sees no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Grumblenuts practices moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. Grumblenuts worships science but is the first to reject it when it suits his purpose. Grumblenuts can be identified by an external locus of control. Grumblenuts religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. Grumblenuts practices critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what he does not believe to arrive at what he does believe without ever having to examine what he believes. Grumblenuts confuses critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something Grumblenuts never does.

Wow, even ding's most impressive fit of crying was stolen without attribution!

Bunny's 'bout to stomp on some shameless heathen trash!

Ravi parodied my siggie.

My signature line is well known at USMB. It’s got a history.

 

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Ding’s signature:

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

 

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The fact that it perfectly describes grumblenuts just means he’s a filthy socialist.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Ravi parodied my siggie.

Yep, appears Ravi used that to ding you with. Because you're such a ding-a-ling. And then you stole his idea. With zero attribution. Because you're such a shameless idiot.

 

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Ravi parodied my siggie.

Yep, appears Ravi used that to ding you with. Because you're such a ding-a-ling. And then you stole his idea. With zero attribution. Because you're such a shameless idiot.

He’s a she.

Nope. I’ve done it many time before Ravi did. She got that from me too. Next?

 

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Getting back to the old biddy’s OP, the question shouldn’t be can atheists have morals, the question should be why should they?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Ravi parodied my siggie.

Yep, appears Ravi used that to ding you with. Because you're such a ding-a-ling. And then you stole his idea. With zero attribution. Because you're such a shameless idiot.

He’s a she.

Nope. I’ve done it many time before Ravi did. She got that from me too. Next?

The evidence thus far indicates that you stole her idea. My apologies to Ravi. Your denials are predictable and worthless as ever since you provide zero corroborating evidence.

 

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Ravi parodied my siggie.

Yep, appears Ravi used that to ding you with. Because you're such a ding-a-ling. And then you stole his idea. With zero attribution. Because you're such a shameless idiot.

He’s a she.

Nope. I’ve done it many time before Ravi did. She got that from me too. Next?

The evidence thus far indicates that you stole her idea. My apologies to Ravi. Your denials are predictable and worthless as ever since you provide zero corroborating evidence.

Believe whatever you want. I have a sneaking suspicion your ego needs the boost after that beat down.

 

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So according to the worldview of atheism there is no reason to be moral. Therefore, they are moral because they co-opted it from the religious world view.

 

[Grumblenuts]

So according to the worldview of atheism there is no reason to be moral.

Again, blind assertion. No corroboration. Equals worthless, purely ego driven pap.

 

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So according to the worldview of atheism there is no reason to be moral.

Again, blind assertion. No corroboration. Equals worthless, purely ego driven pap.

Nope. Nothing special about humans, right?

No different than any other animal. Do you see wolves apologizing to deer for eating them?

Besides this is classic Nietzsche.

 

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Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They literally have no reason to believe in morals whatsoever.

 

[Grumblenuts]

The reality.

One of the first questions Atheists are asked by true believers and doubters alike is, “If you don’t believe in God, there’s nothing to prevent you from committing crimes, is there? Without the fear of hell-fire and eternal damnation, you can do anything you like, can’t you?”

Introduction
It is hard to believe that even intelligent and educated people could hold such an opinion, but they do! It seems never to have occurred to them that the Greeks and Romans, whose gods and goddesses were something less than paragons of virtue, nevertheless led lives not obviously worse than those of the Baptists of Alabama! Moreover, pagans such as Aristotle and Marcus Aurelius – although their systems are not suitable for us today – managed to produce ethical treatises of great sophistication, a sophistication rarely if ever equaled by Christian moralists.

The answer to the questions posed above is, of course, “Absolutely not!” The behavior of Atheists is subject to the same rules of sociology, psychology, and neurophysiology that govern the behavior of all members of our species, religionists included. Moreover, despite protestations to the contrary, we may assert as a general rule that when religionists practice ethical behavior, it isn’t really due to their fear of hell-fire and damnation, nor is it due to their hopes of heaven. Ethical behavior – regardless of who the practitioner may be – results always from the same causes and is regulated by the same forces, and has nothing to do with the presence or absence of religious belief.