Can Gun Nuts Please Stop Saying You Need Guns to Protect Yourself From A Potential Tyrannical Government!!!

The Constitution makes NO reference to self defense.

Article 1 Section 8 however says the following

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

"To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

The militia was twice used to put down such insurrections in those early years (Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion)

By te way...that's the Constitutional description of a "Well Regulated Militia" and it's not a bunch of fat slobs sitting around the barber shop cursing the government

So the militia should have put you animals down at Chaz/Chop - the only insurrection in the last 50 years.

Shay's rebellion occurred prior to the formation of the United States through the ratification of the Constitution - hence your point is moot.

In the Whiskey Rebellion, there was never a confrontation - again your talking point is moot.
 
This guy is a troll

No more so than you.

Unclear if he is a pretend communist but actual right wing troll or an actual Russian agitptop troll

He knows more about Marx than you do. But then so does my dog.

But no supposed communist is going to attack liberals in MAGA terms like this creep does.

Troll fail

What are "Maga terms," Nazi boi?
 
Now you're babbling

I said the militia was USED several times to put down the sort of insurrection you folks claim the 2A supports.

I showed you WHERE in the Constitution it describes and calls for that to happen.

Jesus you are stupid

Yet your talking point is wrong.

The first time the militia was used in a violent confrontation with civilians was in fact the first civil war.
 
Yet your talking point is wrong.

The first time the militia was used in a violent confrontation with civilians was in fact the first civil war.
There was only one Civil War that I am aware of (along with the rest of the country), and that was more than 50 years after the Militia was used to put down Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion
 
The Constitution makes NO reference to self defense.

Article 1 Section 8 however says the following

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

"To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

The militia was twice used to put down such insurrections in those early years (Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion)

By te way...that's the Constitutional description of a "Well Regulated Militia" and it's not a bunch of fat slobs sitting around the barber shop cursing the government
For clarity sake
 
The most democratic society in history was Vladimir Lenin in Petrograd the winter of 1922-23.

Most leftists are morons an know nothing of what Marx wrote or what socialism is. Perhaps you're better versed. Soviets are a type of congress. In Lenin's USSR there were soviets at all levels, right down to the neighborhood.

It was all very democratic - sure the bourgeoisie, that is the Middle Class - were denied the right to vote or any sort of representation. But among the proletarians at the behest of the aristocracy and oligarchs, everyone got to vote. In fact Lenin had soviets voting on what jobs people would do - so doctors often were field hands. They would vote on what the needs of people were - so shop owners were often found to not need food. They voted on housing, so tradesmen often were found to not need to sleep indoors in the arctic city.

A third of the population was murdered through this savagery, but it was all so very democratic.

PJ O'Roark wrote that "Democracy is three wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." (no, it wasn't Ben Franklin)

Marxists are the most brutal of all creatures, or perhaps equal to their conjoined twin the Nazis.

A third of the population wasn't murdered, that's just your conjured-up polemic against communism. It works when you preach to the capitalist choir, but not those of us who've examined the "evidence" for such figures. When we point out how brutal capitalism has been through colonialism and imperialism, you just shrug your shoulders and flippantly dismiss whatever "death-toll" figures we throw at you, and truthfully, good. Such numbers say nothing as to whether capitalism is an effective economic system and mode of production or not. There are capitalist nations right now that are beheading people in the public square for witchcraft or marijuana possession (if you're caught with an ounce or more in Saudi Arabia, you get your head cut off). Did the Marxists start two world wars? Did we develop nuclear bombs? I can go down a long long list of reasons why capitalism is a much worse criminal than communism. Communism is a petty shop-lifter compared to capitalism, a freaking serial killer.

So spare us all the gobbledygook rhetoric about which economic system is the most bloody because we all have blood on our hands. War is bloody, and that's what class struggle is, it's a war between those who feel entitled to exploit others for resources and money and those who are being exploited and consumed for the sake of profits and power. It's a war between the rich that want to leech off of their workers and the workers who wake up to the fact that they don't have to continue being exploited as cogs in a machine of production for private capital.


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^^ A pretend communist "arguing" with a Nazi troll
 
Now you're babbling

I said the militia was USED several times to put down the sort of insurrection you folks claim the 2A supports.

I showed you WHERE in the Constitution it describes and calls for that to happen.

Jesus you are stupid
No you Said the second was referrenced several times in that sense.

I am smarter than you and have proven it now run aliong BOY and let your betters talk
 
No you Said the second was referrenced several times in that sense.

I am smarter than you and have proven it now run aliong BOY and let your betters talk
I don't believe I did. Feel free to post that statement. It ought to be easy to find

Ohh and when trying to claim how smart you are...at least use spell check
 
Very simple then.

Find that supposed claim and hit reply so we can all see it.

Oh wait...you're full of shit yet again
Proved you wrong boy it is you full of shit and ignorantr.'

You said it you know it now run the fuck along like I told you
 
The Constitution makes NO reference to self defense.

Article 1 Section 8 however says the following

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

"To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

The militia was twice used to put down such insurrections in those early years (Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion)

By te way...that's the Constitutional description of a "Well Regulated Militia" and it's not a bunch of fat slobs sitting around the barber shop cursing the government
There was this. Not there
 
Not according to the Constitution. It specifically points out that the “well regulated militia” is there to put DOWN such insurrections and that has happened several times
There was this.

Did you read it incorrectly?

MORON?
 
Which means nothing.

It is long since proven that gthew second refers to individual rights not an elite group such as milita
Not proven...CLAIMED

That "elite group" is the only one mentioned in the 2A and the reason FOR it

And please genius...get your spell check working or learn how to use it.
 

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